The Bad Way to Teach Music to Babies - Dubious YouTube Channels & Bleeping Toys

[@ramonek9109]

During pregnancy: Listen to classical music. It will make the baby smarter. After birth: The wheels of the bus go round and round

[@dcarbs2979]

Even as a child (age 5) I questioned this. How do people get on and off if the wheels never stop turning?! :-)

[@Nikku4211]

Shhhhhh, I told her it was Mozart. (Plays Boogie Back)

[@darkstarr984]

Like seriously? My family played me basically nothing because I literally started wailing at everything but would bring in all sorts of cool things and read to me from the second I could sit with support, plus my first books were a few popup books and covered everything from classic children’s literature to science. No wonder I’m actually only good at English and the rest just kinda follows along.

[@AdamPippert]

Me: plays child nonstop prog rock and free jazz Child: only wants to hear ‘Twinkle Twinkle Little Star’

[@llynxfyre]

@@darkstarr984 that and also the ways they teach English in schools are shit

[@SLagonia]

My twin boys were born premature, and I just assumed I had more time to learn lullabies. When they were born, I never had the time to learn them, but I wanted to give them something to latch onto, and music was the only thing I could think of... So I just sang them The Beatles. They never wanted to listen to lullabies after that, and wanted to listen to more complex music, so I just kept playing it for them. Well, they're on to their first year now and they became bored with the fake toy instruments, so I let them use real ones. I put a drum set out for them, put an old electric piano on the floor, etc. One twin can already find chords on the piano... Yeah, he's (adjusted) 12 months old, and if I play a note he can find the next one in the chord. The toys didn't help him do that - Listening to real music and playing real instruments did it. Both of them have an easier time identifying songs and melodies than they do anything else in their world, it's just a natural language for them. I still sing to them every night and they try (because they still don't speak English) to sing back to me. They have a musical headstart I could have only dreamed of.

[@Tantacrul]

Hello from one parent of twins to another!

[@caramelldansen2204]

this is dope as heck. very well done! :)

[@Sean1ck]

so this is the perfect "i wish i lived like that when i was a child" moment. hope your twins and your family a healthy life!

[@eltiolavara9]

wish i had that :p

[@frafrafrafrafra]

I hope one of your "beatles lullabies" that you sing to them is "I Will"

[@beeble2003]

It's OK, we all know the correct lyrics. "Five little ducks went swimming one day / Sibelius crashed / All day long!"

[@JacobKinsley]

New all day long

[@karamboubou8579]

i just realised that people who make songs like hese put 0 effort into the melody because its always a knock off of twinkle twinkle little star or the song that 5 little ducks was based on (don't know what it's called)

[@KingJellyfishII]

@@JacobKinsley *N E W A L L*

[@JacobKinsley]

@@KingJellyfishII I don't even remember the context for that

[@JacobKinsley]

@@KingJellyfishII wait I remember this video lol

[@HyperMotionDX]

When I was a toddler I had this Casio keyboard with a sample mic. I would just scream into it and play random crap. One day I accidentally played the first line of the Mario underground theme by ear. I went screaming to my grandma because I was so happy and I loved Mario.

[@kencur9690]

And grandma told you to cut that racket.

[@magentasky234]

@@kencur9690 Bruh, can you stop being so miserable in all these comment threads?

[@magentasky234]

Aww that's really sweet!

[@kencur9690]

@@magentasky234 can you mind your own business? Sure you can, so bugger off.

[@abefaerber7994]

@@kencur9690 i'm not sure if you have the theory of mind necessary to comprehend this, but when you make an announcement to the world, it turns from your business to everyone else's business. crazy, i know

[@rarerrac]

there's no sharp notes to encourage parents to teach their babies the intricacies of the G mixolydian and B locrian modes before adventuring ahead with such advanced topics as D major

[@Tantacrul]

Haha! How did I miss this comment until now? :)

[@rzk_audio]

There's a gap in the market here... Let's make the exact same glockenspiel as 1:46 and tune it to the whole tone scale!

[@Moinsdeuxcat]

@@rzk_audio You can even make piles of money by releasing an entire line of products. One toy per Messiaen mode. Hurrah!

[@metroidnerd9001]

Strangely enough, at my elementary school, there were musical chimes on the playground that only had the natural keys B3-B4, so the only scale you could play on it was B Locrian.

[@Dracopol]

Is there even a song that uses Locrian mode? Yes, there's _one_ ... kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2etc6aFr7R5l7M

[@catasstrophy2316]

Of course it's a dark version of the wheels on the bus. LOOK AT THE BUS'S FACE! If that doesn't scream "I'm currently digesting these children I have inside me" I don't know what does.

[@myhr9717]

this is why I'm going to start my kids off on a carefully selected diet of Grindcore

[@_seriti_]

can I die and be reincarnated as your kid?

[@cyrussayah3416]

The double kicks pounding through a subwoofer will do a great job of burping them, too.

[@mfThump]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2Oxpn16hNaqo6M For when it's time for a nap, nothing like some bassline meditation.

[@CriminalGamingHimself]

Straight dub-step and every flavor of music with "hard" in it. If he ain't jamming he ain't your son.

[@thespicehoarder]

Einstein in the making right here.

[@PugandOwn]

honestly man, everyone knows ur not supposed to give sharp things to babies!

[@lcoleman1961]

Teach them the cycle of fourths instead. Then they can play with flat things first.

[@oibruv3889]

@@lcoleman1961 What about cycle of fourths keys in harmonic minor, ie C# in the key of Dm?

[@dmitrishostakovich1671]

what about B#

[@theseangle]

@@dmitrishostakovich1671 What about Cb?

[@mehulpandya4761]

@@theseangle C flat is B.

[@jackbrady666]

that plate cracked me up. i love that your plates are tuned to F#

[@Tantacrul]

I made sure to get a hoover in C. Combined I can hear the ringing of the Petrushka chord.

[@ConnorR.mp3]

actually, the toy is tuned to C#, and the plates are tuned to G, so the note labels on the glockenspiel are actually a half step flat lol

[@yufnihaenisch2164]

So that whrn they fall they, they'll say F

[@McOuroborosBurger]

Chloe 24601 ‘tis G.

[@lapiscarrot]

@@McOuroborosBurger I have perfect pitch and can vouch for the fact that the instrument he was using was a half-step high, and thus the F# he was trying to play on the instrument was actually a G.

[@ollidix4090]

8:02 not only are the musical choices questionable, but so are the duck facts, drakes (male ducks) don’t quack, the make a raspy thought sound that rambles on, whereas females make loud distinguished “QUACK” sounds, thus making it impossible for daddy drake to go “quack quack quack”, for the ducklings to come back back back. If you’re planning on singing about ducks, get your facts straight damn it! Edit: Fun bonus fact, ducklings don’t quack either, they squeak, they either quack or make there bloke sounds when they reach sexual maturity around 4 months (depending on the species), bonus fact two, the daddy duck shown in the video doesn’t have a drake feather, which is a feather at the end of a male ducks tail. Bonus fact three, adult ducks aren’t yellow, ever. And fun fact four, I know too much about ducks, and have been rambling on for long enough, I could go on, but I won’t. You’re welcome.

[@Sorrowdusk]

So many things are like this actually

[@sbp4215]

Upvoted for sweet duck facts

[@sebasty6111]

Another very small fact could be that male ducks are nearly always more colorful than females, and they generally don't help raise the young. The male mallard for example goes off to secluded areas to molt shortly after the female has started nesting. Only mallards have drake feathers, however.

[@lovelydolltime8006]

Pretty sure all baby birds squeak.

[@ryansinbela6396]

Another fact Female Ducks can’t wear bows

[@novaaetas7492]

Man I reckon if your kids heard my playing I could get them to cry.

[@spysearice5695]

I reckon the only person crying when I start playing is myself. *cries in playing the all the notes sharp by 12 cents*

[@MultiJeje12345]

@@arthurfine4284 *Proceeds to play Crazy Frog - Axel F on repeat*

[@dmitritelvanni4068]

​​​@@arthurfine4284nah that won't work... My kids love Sea shanties.... And that's gonna be the majority lol. Idk maybe all the classical metal and Opeth interspersed between will do it tho. So far results are mixed. Though my youngest is definitely possessed so she loves the metal lol.

[@alicebnuuy6155]

2:51 music bitcrushed horse noise gunshots music gunshots more music bitcrushed horse noise gunshots

[@Supershadow301]

Truly a work of art.

[@iforgor6673]

"They're shooting the horse again.."

[@usualunusualkid7149]

SICK DERBY HORSES BOTTOM TEXT

[@muncherofpizza]

I was wondering why the clopping noises sounded more like machine guns

[@ChaosRayZero]

@@muncherofpizza Clopping? _I thought it was supposed to be a pig oink._

[@Zestrayswede]

*Well-meaning adult* plays nursery rhyme. *Baby* _thinking to itself_ "don't insult my intelligence".

[@birdflox1337]

when i was about 5 to 8 years old, i legit felt like people thought i was an idiot when they sung really simple kid's songs

[@wonderfurret8223]

@@birdflox1337 HOLY COW, I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN! WHAT THE HECK! DON'T YOU DARE GIVE ME AN UNCOMFORTABLE SENSE OF NOSTALGIA!

[@fanasful]

@@birdflox1337 I'm impressed that you even remember anything from the ages 5 to 8. Because I can't. Maybe I'm just getting old though...

[@birdflox1337]

@@fanasful it's not all great, the things i remember most were when i was VERY young, and had to go to the hospital for pneumonia and rotavirus

[@0bashie]

@@fanasful sometimes a human mind can remember so stupid things. like me standing next to a sofa one day when I was a child. yeah, thanks past me. really needed that memory.

[@Vgamer311]

Baby: *can find the doggy after being asked “where’s the doggy?” Me, a 22-year old college student studying software engineering: (unironically) “damn what a genius.”

[@CockatooDude]

Well it is very impressive when looked at from a software engineering standpoint.

[@fionafiona1146]

My boyfriend has had too little exposure to get the conclusion but found a 6 month old cousin of mine nearly as ailian but interesting as apple software (more exposure might get children to Linux levels!).

[@orangeflipflop485]

piano: sharp note baby: thou shall not disgrace me with such noise! I can not comprehend these sounds of which you utter! I demand naturals!

[@skyjack1]

*plays a random set of flats*

[@thespicehoarder]

blessed_comment

[@wonderfurret8223]

piano: double sharp note baby: *internal confusion (except if E double sharp or B double sharp is played)

[@Brainsore.]

I love your profile pic and name so much

[@W3Rn1ckz]

Infant: what’s this I hear? A brand new sound that has never been heard before?

[@quillomanar5038]

"No matter how much you quack quack, Daddy duck is never coming back back" *Roasted,* hopefully with a hint of garlic.

[@maxobyrne1474]

I can’t wait to play my 3 month old some Death Grips

[@Tantacrul]

lol. haha

[@thespicehoarder]

it goes it goes it goes it goes it goes it goes

[@LL-yd8zz]

@@thespicehoarder No ur doing it wrong it's ITGOESITGOESITGOESITGOESITGOESITGOESITGOESITGOESITGOES

[@axelbergstrom3644]

Go easy on him and start with the money store

[@tortoisesoup16]

But is your three month old fit to know the proper meaning of a beatdown, madness, chaos in the brain?

[@Zappygunshot]

This learning genius never fully goes away. It is primarily due to the way education is structured in most countries (based on a model stemming from the Industrial Revolution and it shows - it works just like a factory) that we feel like we become slower at learning new things as time goes by. While it's true that our ability to pick up new skills is somewhat pushed to the background as our goals and with that our priorities change, but the fastest and most effective ways to learn something kind of always remain "participate in it". Observe others doing the thing well, try it yourself, repeat. If they can explain how they do the thing and why they do it that way, all the better, but the core of learning remains the participation.

[@theharvardyard2356]

Great, now I have creepy kiddie shit in my recommended. It's like a hair-trigger machine gun, one mention of kids and an instant avalanche of shit on the sidebar. Excellent video by the way, completely agree.

[@ketaminepoptarts]

honestly, if you try watching ANYTHING related to children on youtube, then the watch next section will immediately be filled with videos that have titles like "elsa and spiderman suprise egg" with thumbnails with so many clashing neon colours that your eyes start bleeding

[@danielsjohnson]

the Harvard Yard click the three dots menu next to each video and select "not interested". It works for me. Bonus points if you select "tell us why" -> "I don't like this video/channel".

[@thegrammarcrusader4085]

WHY DIDN'T SOMEONE WARN ME SOONER?!

[@millerh4500]

I looked to the side immediately after seeing this comment and saw four weird nursery rhymes...

[@ХристоМартунковграфЛозенски]

@@ketaminepoptarts So I had the right intuition: it's all about ingesting questionable substances !

[@picanigeorgello2847]

"When teaching your babies to eat you dont start with fast food" Eh sadly some parents are more than happy to let their kids grow up on chicken nuggets and fries until they wont eat anything else

[@whycantihaveaproperusernam9384]

@@billyshepard1881 What are surgery foods? Or is it a typo?

[@luviana_]

@@whycantihaveaproperusernam9384 Must've meant "sugary".

[@whycantihaveaproperusernam9384]

@@billyshepard1881 Also, in my opinion people look kind of stupid when they list two things that are the SAME or one of them is also the other. "Surgery foods" if it means Sugary ARE junk -food- Oh and I crossed out food because I don't think food can be junk or junk can be food

[@B3Band]

@@whycantihaveaproperusernam9384 r/iamverysmart People look kind of stupid when they fail to realize that junk food is a very common term, and you can't just "consider" it not to be. I feel bad for your kids, assuming you can actually get someone to hang around you long enough to get in bed with you without killing themselves.

[@enzo3217]

@@B3Band you just want someone to post this on a subreddit and get famous don't you I see that r/

[@nobodyeverinhistory]

Lesson Learned: teach babies the LICC before their first birthday so that they can flex on all the toddlers in the daycare.

[@MultiJeje12345]

yes Teach babies more knowledge than what is expected so they may flex by counting to 300 in daycare

[@NoTraceOfSense]

*plays the Shubhgazer version of Slip with the 4/20 metric modulation* this is real big brain shit

[@FalkenbergKali13]

Your baby (dumb): doesn't know the lick, doesn't know jazz at all. My baby (smart): Addicted to heroin.

[@somedummyonyoutube3362]

@@NoTraceOfSense nice metric modulation there

[@thelazywanderer_jt]

@@MultiJeje12345 me being able to count to 1000 at age 5 be like

[@fermiLiquidDrinker]

Honestly, letting babies and toddlers play around with professional quality instruments (especially synths imo) could honestly be really good for them

[@pikaboi0373]

A lot of people would be scared that they would damage the instrument, but honestly what will a baby really do to something like a synth? It's not like they're really strong enough to throw it around especially if it's p heavy, which it usually is. People really shouldn't be so scared of letting their kids play with professional instruments, because they can truly learn spectacular things from it, and hindering from that sort of thing can also hold back their creativity and make it harder for them to learn the more complex things in the future.

[@radiobiologist]

I had a keyboard as a kid

[@clashman7564]

I would not let a 8-month old baby touch a Les Paul without supervision. It would drool and bite on it.

[@yeasstt]

Maybe not professional quality because those are expensive. But student quality instruments, absolutely. Instead of a shitty toy keyboard, get them a real keyboard. Even a 63 key keyboard would be good for them to learn with, and those can be super cheap

[@salty_3k506]

@@clashman7564 of course not but a cheaper, well set up guitar, if you can afford it

[@themustardthe]

As soon as I clicked on the video, my *entire* recommended page turned into Arabic toy reviews and cartoons made in Windows Movie Maker.

[@Tantacrul]

Really? Man - I'm so sorry.

[@themustardthe]

Nah, it’s fine. I’m just scarred for life.

[@klobiforpresident2254]

I completely agree, same here. What I take issue with is shitting on MS paint. You probably think editing those images (must be JPG for best effect) together with Movie Maker is a bad idea too!

[@themustardthe]

Klobi for President I know that MS Paint can make good art, but it’s for the same reason I would make jokes about DeviantArt. I know DeviantArt isn’t just bad art. A lot of it’s actually surprisingly good, but since another large amount isn’t that great, it’s fine. In my opinion, even if something’s good, you can laugh at the bad parts. For example, I think Smash Bros. Melee is a really good game, but I can still joke about the bad parts, particularly the smell of most tournaments. Also, something like Windows Movie Maker can be used right, but it’s been popularized as terrible and poorly used, so you’ll see people shitting on it constantly. So, in the majority of cases, a pairing of Paint and Movie Maker sounds like bad news, but if done well, good things can come out of the both of them. P.S. Sorry if this wasn’t the kind of response you were looking for. I do tend to be a bit blunt in a lot of responses I make to things, so don’t don’t take it personally or anything like that. P.P.S. Also, thanks for responding! I’m not going to lie and say it made my day, but I still enjoy it when it happens.

[@klobiforpresident2254]

@@themustardthe I am fully aware that Movie Maker and Paint are a terrible combination and I embrace it. That's why it should be a JPG file and not something sensible like a PNG or, in this context, maybe a GIF would be a useful choice. I'm a university student. If something can be done on a lower budget it should be. ^^

[@baroncosmos]

Oh, man, that kid naming the notes played from the piano chord was so blood-chillingly impressive. I couldn't even correctly name *one* of those fucking notes.

[@thelazywanderer_jt]

At least you could hazard a guess

[@gamestheysubmitted2239]

It proves a point but all musical prodigies eventually get old and nothing we do is special anymore. I have perfect pitch and it’s mostly useless to me. Having perfect pitch doesn’t actually mean you will be in tune all the time, it just means you know what the correct pitch is. If someone needs A440 and no one has a tuning fork, I can be somewhat helpful although these days everyone can get it on their phone. I also hear things out of tune before anyone else does so if something is out of tune my teeth will be grinding while everyone else is oblivious. Not useful. And you could, by the way. Perfect pitch isn’t genetic, it’s learned. You could learn to do it too with a steady diet of ear training. But why? It’s a parlor trick. Having a good ear is useful because if I hear something I can play it back accurately the first time. Generally. But that mimic ability is only so useful. For example, it hindered my sight reading ability massively. For years I’d look up at my teachers wide eyed when confronted with a piece of sheet music and say “oh can you play it for me so I can hear what it sounds like?” Then I’d just play it back. The written notes were gibberish. Let me tell you how useful it isn’t. Particularly in ensemble playing, where you often can’t actually hear yourself playing or your part doesn’t make any real melodic sense so it can’t be easily memorized.

[@sparshjohri1109]

I could identify the notes when they were being played one at a time with brief spaces in between, but not when they were being played together. That was seriously impressive

[@radiobiologist]

The kid can sing accurately.

[@higgz2036]

I which my parents actually educated me like that, I could've used that intellect for actually beneficial things, but no, of course not, now i'm trapped here...

[@ajaxk7677]

I feel so justified hearing all of this. People show babies total crap when we could have them watch/listen the same things adults would and they would get so much smarter later. Just imagine the potential

[@pttj9947]

I'm gonna leave my kid at home to watch all seasons of Black Mirror, I hope he'll grow up to be as depressed as I am

[@Gnurklesquimp]

I think babies are best taught in certain ways, but I feel we're going a little overboard. A personal idea of mine is to use those nursery rhymes as a familiar context, and then demonstrate reharms of varying complexity. Even adults sometimes have their minds blown when I break down how many more notes go into music than the ones they register, when I saw Beato's son I was impressed. With TV shows etc. I think it's even trickier, so much would go over their heads and they'd lose the structure to make associations to. I think it's probably most effective if there's very little ''noise'' to distract them from what they can potentially wrap their heads around, and use more universal language to convey the subject matter. I think more focused learning can also be better, an efficient allegory could probably get across surprisingly well.

[@ollie2111]

Like that viral video of the dad watching tv with his baby. He comments on the events of the show with his reactions and the baby responds back in convincly English-sounding gibberish to the point where I thought I was the only one not understanding her. Top tier parenting💜

[@neonfroot]

Parents are too afraid of kids learning cuss words or pointing out social-biological castes (skin color, sexuality, gender, religion) out of fear of being "bad parents". People value innocence over functionality in children. Hell, kids who're from broken homes or adopted are viewed as defective bc they "know too much" about the illusion of normalcy, making them less "docile." I especially hate when people put "PLEASE HAVE KIDS LEAVE THE ROOM" disclaimers on grpahic movies about war, crime, or industry secrets. Kids are not inherently innocent. They can familiarize the value of money, fashion, and sex *even without television or Internet.* This smothering fetish for youthful innocence is why teens and early 20-somethings are being fucked over left right and center.

[@emilpersidski]

My dad grew me up on surrealist east european cartoons and DOS games

[@rajdeepkundu3623]

I remember, when as a toddler I would get frustrated with the lack of multiple octaves in these so-called 'musical toys'... Also it really offended me when I was expecting a note to play, BUT THEN CAME ANIMAL NOISES!!!

[@Anonymous-df8it]

Did you tell your parents?

[@Twiddle_things]

Same here!! I was also really sad that I wasn't allowed to play the piano or sing. I wanted to figure out this amazing thing and play it like the people at church. So often I'd get told to shut up because it was dissonant gibberish or my singing wasn't good even though I was so small. Only recently with a good supportive music teacher have I been able to rekindle my love for music

[@sudonim7552]

Oh god this gave me flashbacks to when my little brother was a baby and he constantly watched those crappy low-quality kids videos and no matter how much I tried to convince my parents not to let him watch that brain-rotting mass-produced garbage, they would keep letting him watch it because it's easier to keep him entertained like that instead of actually interacting with him, which is what parents should be doing. He's lucky that I play the piano so he still heard his fair share of complex music.

[@zux128]

@Jiggolo! o h

[@zux128]

@Stefan Brockelbank but *why*

[@zux128]

@Stefan Brockelbank Then you are a epic person :D

[@N8UrM8]

Now they'll make up years of shitty parenting with a PS4

[@komentorrtyen5859]

I'm glad i have under-the-rock parents

[@bouncepatrol]

I spend a lot of time thinking about this, as a creator of kids music. Wish we could make kids songs with interesting complexity, but our most popular songs are always the simplest melodically, with basic instrumentation. Younger kids seem to prefer melodies with 3 notes on repeat. Our spicier compositions usually flop, so we get led down a path of creating ever simpler tunes....

[@sammatteck3761]

"Younger kids seem to prefer melodies with 3 notes on repeat..." Jeez... Sorry to tell you this, but these things that babies & toddlers apparently ""prefer"" and what you like to call ""melodies"" are actually not beneficial for their development. Your genre as a whole is so profoundly uncreative.

[@padraicfanning7055]

@@sammatteck3761 So… does anyone want to animate _Till Eulenspiegels lustige Streiche?_ Just curious.

[@parnikkapore]

If it was the parents picking, then maybe they just prefer their child to listen to simpler stuff. I mean, the stereotype's set.

[@neonfroot]

What you just said is total paternalism.

[@luviana_]

Oh damn, you're... a legit kids channel!! That's a LOT of subscribers to not have any verified checkmark.

[@ChrisLeeW00]

The cat piano is the best music toy. Fully chromatic, beats, mic, and of course melodic meows.

[@petrfedor1851]

You just need to hope baby will not piss the cat.

[@0bashie]

meow

[@ХристоМартунковграфЛозенски]

"Melodic meows" The description is already proving OP's point ! Where can one get such an instrument ? SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEYS !

[@brettzolstick989]

My band director said we could play our scale quizzes on any instrument we want, so you know I had to do it to him.

[@nomf34]

i just looked it up and it looks like cheshire cat on drugs

[@barmetler]

The reason those toys and yt channels are so popular is that they're maintenance-free. You can just plop your kid in front of the tv and do something else. I personally think that if you have that mindset, just don't have kids in the first place. There is no shortcut to raising kids, you just actually have to put in the effort.

[@Patricia_Taxxon]

Couldn't agree more, I essentially know music theory because of the grand piano that's been in the house since I was a toddler.

[@Tantacrul]

Cheers man, I must say, you're quick on the ball. Second time you've been the first comment! What's next on your channel?

[@Patricia_Taxxon]

55 minute undertale analysis

[@maxwell_edison]

meanwhile learning anything related to music for me would be a task so difficult I gave up before I started v epic

[@nikhiljoshi2961]

omg hi I’m a subscriber

[@thelazywanderer_jt]

On the other hand, I'm burning my eyes trying to understand why staccato is even an existent term.

[@CC.R0Y]

2:50 the horse noises sound like gun shots in the background of a 2010s hiphop song

[@Sheerspeechcraft]

It's kind of a banger, ngl

[@labemolmineur]

I love this with all of my heart. "When babies are able to eat, you don't start them off with fast food. When teaching them to speak, you don't teach them slang or garbled pronunciation." Brought to my mind the advice from Schumann, "With sweetmeats, pastry and confectionery we cannot bring up children in sound health. The mental food must be as simple and nourishing as the bodily. Great composers have sufficiently provided for the former; keep to their works." I loved your criticism of the harmony in "The Wheels on the Bus". This careless randomness is not forgivable- not for a music student whose homework no one but the professor will probably hear, and definitely not for one writing for such an important, smart and sensitive audience. My god, babies listen. They listen so well. Thank you so much for this.

[@romaingauthier2653]

I loved that bit too, because it shows there is such a thing as a stupid chord, in context. That relative minor got what it deserved.

[@kabobawsome]

So fun things about dissonance and babies, ever put a baby in front of a piano, even one very well exposed to many different varieties of music and with perfect pitch? First instinct? EXTREME DISSONANCE, ALL THE KEYS JUNG JUNG JUNG! Babies LOVE dissonance, probably because they get exposed to it so little and find it new and exciting.

[@Anonymous-df8it]

We can make 'alternative music' for babies in which instead of dissonance resolving to consonance, consonance resolves to dissonance.

[@salty_3k506]

also, they have small hands so they are more likely to touch keys next to each other which is b7, 7, b2 or 2, all rather dissonant intervals

[@mbrsart]

"Don't be afraid to play music of all types to your kids." _(rubs hands together)_ I can't wait to introduce my baby to grindcore.

[@fish4225]

Uh oh, I smell a stolen comment!

[@KohuGaly]

I don't recommend it. Children have a boundless capability and urge to imitate. It's one thing to explain to the rest of society that your baby listens to grindcore. It's completely different to explain why your baby is the lead singer on your band's latest grindcore album.

[@chrispham6599]

KohuGaly so you're telling me that I shouldn't play Hentaicore to my niece?

[@anjoliebarrios8906]

@@KohuGaly Imitation? That sounds like an argument _for_ letting your baby listen to grindcore.

[@ХристоМартунковграфЛозенски]

Why not Satanic black metal instead ? Before you know it, your kids will be drawing pentagrams with the blood of the family dog in the living room at night...

[@Kavukamari]

I always give children the same respect that I would give to an adult. I don't do baby talk like "wOOOOOOoOoW! you KnOw your COOOlors!!" I say "sorry" and "excuse me" if they're in the way, or if I'm in their way. I think it's incredibly inane to treat children like they're stupid, they eventually have to learn to be smart, so why start later than necessary?

[@WizardofFuzz]

There's nothing wrong with using exaggerated intonation for babies though! Adults intuitively do it in all cultures. It's a natural part of language acquisition.

[@river_brook]

@@WizardofFuzz exaggerated intonation is one thing; stripping your regular vocabulary down to googoogaga talk while you do so is another

[@WizardofFuzz]

@@river_brook Yes. I'm not sure if there's an advantage in googoogaga talk. There's a lot of research on first language acquisition but it's been years since I engaged with that topic.

[@YEs69th420]

Infantilising infants

[@cheap2402]

@@YEs69th420 this comment cracked me up lol

[@SendyTheEndless]

The wheels on the bus go "one day, the last star will burn out - and then... darkness.... forever.... ".. ALL DAY LONG! :)

[@metadaat5791]

Ah, but not forever :) Luckily there is the Poincaré Recurrence, everything that has happened will, inescapably, happen again, at some point in the (unimaginably extremely far) future ... forever. I'm not sure what's more bleak, though. Explanation: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3iml2Vve7WAas0

[@luigivercotti6410]

darkness can't last all day long, because it's never day with darkness

[@Alsatiagent]

In the late 1980's, I heard my toddler stomping around the apartment singing "Bankrobber" by The Clash. I was flushed with pride.

[@knobwobble]

I’m lucky my mom was one of those “Beethoven playing through a speaker next to the womb” types from the get-go. It just seems like a missed opportunity to waste formative years listening to piss poor examples of music.

[@Mr.Goldbar]

I can definitely relate. My mom was also one of these!

[@Mrs.Silversmith]

Speakers should never be placed on or near the belly of a pregnant woman. In the water of the womb sound conducts really well and you can possibly damage their hearing by doing this. They can hear it all without extra help, just having it playing in the room is enough.

[@laurenkuelker4612]

Same, expect it was my dad who was the 'Beethoven playing from the speakers' type not my mom

[@Sorrowdusk]

@@Mrs.Silversmith I.........had no idea of such a thing.

[@elmohead]

@@Sorrowdusk Totally a thing. Back in WW2, sailors are discouraged to jump ship and go into the water since explosions in the water will carry that energy and rip human bodies apart. It was actually safer to stay in the burning ship and hope that you stay out of the waters.

[@jessewilliams8724]

8:55 "Banging on a drum or playing an instrument" Ouch.

[@Tantacrul]

Haha. Didn't quite notice the implication :)

[@micachimera]

ok I will say that the music is nitpicking because a much bigger problem is THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS, WHAT?!

[@xylophone897]

hOlY sHiT

[@imveryangryitsnotbutter]

It's like the makers of the video had never seen windshield wipers on a vehicle before and only know of them through second-hand accounts delivered to them via shadows projected on the wall they are forced to stare at all day.

[@dustinm2717]

@@imveryangryitsnotbutter honestly in this world i wouldn't be surprised

[@Mnnvint]

@@imveryangryitsnotbutter Maybe they somehow were raised on their own videos.

[@comicconcarne]

They're eyebrows.

[@SamPearman]

"Quality doesn't really matter because babies don't know any better" has hit the nail on the head. I can't believe how vastly people underestimate young kids, and kids in general, and it makes me angry.

[@caramelldansen2204]

It's a self-fulfilling fallacy. We don't teach them, so they don't know any better... ...and the reason we shouldn't teach them is because they don't know any better?!

[@emanuilspasov3678]

i was stoned out of my mind at the eastern european equivalent of toys r us a few months back and suddenly got the urge to jam on some baby toys but i quickly realized that almost all keyboards ONLY had the major scale (one did have a weird combination of major and whole tone; why?). proceeded to go on a huge rant that my friend had to listen to for the rest of the day. im assumed the reason for that is twofold: a) not to annoy parents with their baby procedurally and mercilessly bashing out twelve tone series and studies in dissonance. b) and this is the most frightening, to attempt to force a positive, happy atmosphere for the baby (which is obviously not how music works in broad terms and the major scale in particular). i mean at that point why even bother raising a kid, when they're obviously gonna call you a terrible parent in 15 years anyway thanks for collecting and enhancing my sentiments in this video. thanks for being super critical and analytical of everything in general ps fuck you dad not being able to avoid housing isnt about being lazy

[@MenwithHill]

I think you're onto something with [2]. Putting the kid in a situation which has 'no fail state' so to speak.

[@yrobtsvt]

gonna buy my future kid an album of Russian folk songs to counteract any falsely optimistic major keys he or she might hear from mainstream culture

[@rarebeeph1783]

Technically, baby toys also have A minor, and E phrygian, or on the brighter end, F lydian. Edit: speaking of which, lydian is sort of like a weird combination of major and whole tone; the first 4 notes (F G A B, for F lydian) are all a whole tone apart from each other.

[@ХристоМартунковграфЛозенски]

Why not making them listen to a piece with deep existential undertones - the tragedy of existence and the misery of mankind. Or some otha shit laik dis.

[@galoomba5559]

@@rarebeeph1783 not if it only has one octave

[@qin2500]

If i ever have a kid, the first thing its gonna hear is megalovania. Cuz life's hard

[@sbp4215]

Have it playing during the birth lol

[@RockhopperRio]

I want to hear your baby doing a Megalovania cover on the glockenspiel

[@RectPropagation]

I actually planned to have that playing (among other appropriate fight/boss music) while giving birth but things went sideways about 3 weeks before I was due. The first song she heard was Memory (the song that plays at the statue when you give it an umbrella).

[@lev7509]

@@RectPropagation I guess if things went sideways while the boss fight songs were playing, then Memory playing when the intense part was over is... kinda fitting? Of course, being a mother has boss fight music playing every now and then, or at least that is what my mother told me.

[@newdykung6775]

Kefka and Marx's theme: *"Let we introduce ourself"*

[@commander-tomalak]

Lol, the Glockenspiel is missing the sharp notes in order so save the parents from the noise, not the toddler :D

[@MidoriMushrooms]

I thought the same thing: baby instruments don't have sharp notes because the base notes don't sound nearly as grating on parents' nerves. ...meanwhile, my mom gave me one of her spare instruments she had to use in college to play with as a kid, and also generally thought kids' musical toys were hot garbage. XD

[@timsalvador2592]

@SArpnt Oh yes, 10 month old Jimmy aiming straight for F and B to screw with his parents

[@segmentsAndCurves]

@@timsalvador2592 The devil

[@lordlouckster2315]

I'm non-English and I hadn't heard the word "Dalmatian" pronounced before I watched this video. So thank you for making me constantly say it incorrectly!

[@KRIGBERT]

Oh it's not just music. Using software to teach normally-developing children about language is nonsense if you can have a real human being reading or conversing with them in stead - and yet there's tons of "educational" software that claims all kinds of wonderful effects on language learning. It's like how Nestlé markets powdered breast milk substitute as better than the real thing.

[@Tylonfoxx]

I remember a Penn & Teller: BS show years back that did an analysis n the same concept - albeit more oriented on TV shows and the "little genius" culture.... really that kind of media just encourages parents to go about it in the wrong, or rather lazy, way. Not to mention that many baby shows basically look and feel like LSD trips in overdrive. Nothing beats actually taking some time to read to your children or play games with them. Mom or dad can emphasize interest and that something is going to happen unlike some computer voice. They can put actual emotion, impersonations and fun into a story or an activity. IMO, software can do one thing well if properly made... and that's storytelling/read-along... but teaching kids about yellow balls and blue triangles?.... no. Challenge level is always locked by the software - software can only take you so far, while interaction with a parent is more flexible... then you're limited by *their* skillset instead.

[@Tylonfoxx]

@Mr Kitrid I initially learned English the same way (we had Cartoon Network on our sat dish :D)... but still my parents were in on it and helped me along as well. When my dad was to be stationed in Australia and I was set to start in school there, we really dialled the practice to 11. Having the language eventually become a nescessity, however, really boosted me along. I guess the same went for German... but then again, I watched shows in German since before I could remember since the weekend morning cartoons and afternoon series lineup was FAR superior to Danish TV (which was and still is just constant reruns most of the time). In any case, my parents (my dad especially) always encouraged me to learn other tongues... best of all, we had fun doing it - I guess that helps as well :) I never said that TV can't be a learning tool - but still just plopping your kid in front of the TV, expecting it to absorb everything is just plain wrong. We both had encouragement from someone, whether a teacher or parents :D

[@thesenamesaretaken]

It's powdered cow's milk specifically, with added vitamins and stuff. You surely don't imagine they could source the quantities of human milk they would need to meet the demands of the modern, enlightened consumer.

[@Sorrowdusk]

@@Tylonfoxx Oh man dude you are right. What if babies could do LSD? Or....even DMT? That's what some shows are like

[@user-gu9yq5sj7c]

@bonglee66 Real, as in fresh foods or milk as possible, versus possessed, like powder.

[@instinctbrosgaming9699]

This is why perfect pitch is rare. My parents didn't really care for my musical development.

[@caramelldansen2204]

You got a musical development?! Lucky.

[@sannylad9204]

LMAO THE PLATE

[@Tantacrul]

It's got a good ring to it.

[@DreamzAnimation]

Tantacrul I laughed out loud for a solid 20 seconds, thank you

[@PentameronSV]

@@Tantacrul Good one 2:43

[@immort4730]

I laughed in the middle of Wendy's, people think I'm crazy now.

[@ericthered2963]

I was in a store which sells these crappy children music toys and I was impressed that I couldn't actually play on them because they sounded so wrong :D Like you could hear that I was playing "The imperial March", but it was so distored that it threw my Rythm totally out of whack. But I got a look from an adult saying: "Dafuq?", so I consider this a Success.

[@NilEoe]

1:31: as a classical percussionist, extremely grateful you didn’t say “xylophone”

[@paraxsoul]

I don't really get why it's called a glockenspiel though, "glocke" means bell and there are no bells.. would you educate me?

[@NilEoe]

paraxsoul It’s the way it is called. Maybe it got wrong with the time, but the name glockenspiel is always used to call this instrument. Actual bells will be called tubular bells, or “bell in A, B, C etc.”

[@nichl474]

@@NilEoe Actually, this is a German word and almost every sequence of "sp" and "st" is pronounced "shp" and "sht". So logically you are all saying it wrong. The correct pronunciation is "glockenshpiel".

[@NilEoe]

Nichl I know, I’m Swiss :) but I wasn’t discussing the pronunciation here.

[@thebostinteaparty3594]

@@paraxsoul Its because glockenspiels used to have bells in them.\

[@ManticoreSigma]

My parents never bothered to expose me to any sort of childrens music. I listened to The Who, Earth, Wind and Fire, Michael Jackson, Uraiah Heep and Alan Parsons Project from day one and even in kindergarden, I hated childrens music, knowing that music can be so much more. Now that I've got a doughter of my own, I already set the tracks: A wholesome mix of various Metal subgenres (Heavy Rock up to technical Deathcore), classical folk and Dark Drum'n'Bass. Up till now, she isn't bothered the least, even if I go full deathgrowl mode on her. She only giggles at daddy's silly noises :D

[@unflexian]

That's lovely!

[@ManticoreSigma]

@@unflexian AND adorable to watch :D

[@dj-murlock]

How's it going?

[@ManticoreSigma]

@@dj-murlock Great, actually! She even specifically requests bands like Dagoba, Korpiklaani, Band Maid and Raised Fist. In the car, she asks for "Dad music" or "Man music" and likes when I sing along.

[@АндроидБишоп]

@@ManticoreSigma Can you recommend some good dark DnB?

[@sengroagers1111]

When I was very young (like, less than a year old) my parents got me hooked on these DVDs from a program called "Baby Einstein," which, in addition to a lot of other well-crafted educational material, had a few DVDs dedicated to music education, all based on different composers (I've been told Baby Mozart was my favorite). They'd play covers of great classical compositions and supplement them with eyecatching imagery like swinging pendulums and models of the planets and whatnot. To be honest, a lot of my seemingly natural abilities with music could be attributed to my parents developing my musical mind the way they did at such an early age. I'm definitely going to play those DVDs for my kids if I can still find them.

[@Tantacrul]

I'm a fan of Baby Einstein. Our singing Turtle has opened my eyes to loads of music by Handel that I'd never heard before. I'm not even joking.

[@bqpahdoesstuff5123]

@@Tantacrul Same here! Was a big fan of baby einstein, though I might already have brought VideoToyGamer here.

[@Gnurklesquimp]

I think having a lot of vastly different music around you as a kid can really do a lot in general, I think that's where my wide and very general interest comes from. Aside from how each kind of music has it's own things to offer, I feel like you'll learn even more from any one kind of music with the context offered by others.

[@minerscale]

Interestingly enough, Baby Einstein not only has the 4th movement to beethoven's 3rd symphony. But also contradance no.7 that the theme is based on. Which all things considered is a quite obscure pick.

[@kingdededelicious]

That is probably why I have perfect pitch

[@theCodyReeder]

Here have a like!

[@snail123O]

oh frick it's cody'slab

[@calebhouston5799]

@@snail123O his babies are going to take over the world lol

[@Mechanist]

Of all places i find you here? Ok then lol have a nice day

[@calebhouston5799]

@@Mechanist Cody is one of those guys who is everywhere good on youtube, you just have to look

[@andyjohnson4907]

I've been trying to convince my friends to get their kid to listen to proper music in the car. Not so that the kid becomes a musical genius, but just so we don't have to listen to shit music on repeat for the next eight years.

[@charles3840]

You're friends might respond better if you explain some of this stuff to them. Try equating it to pronunciation words poorly, like Tantacrul did. If it's the lyrics they're worried about, convince them to check out classical music, foreign languages that have a positive tone in their music, or lyricless jazz. But just be as respectful as possible. A lot of parents hate being told how to raise their kids.

[@bloodyhell8201]

@@charles3840 "A lot of parents hate being told how to raise their kids." sadly

[@fred-youtube]

Show them this video

[@yorrishandoko620]

I highly recommend Pocoyo videos for kids development. The character design, animation, color, music, story and narration are all on point! For younger kids under 1 years old, Notekins is a great introduction to musical note, dynamic, and instruments. If you are really brave in facing the risk of having a repetitive children song plays all day in your house, try Baby Shark :D

[@fatimahanwaar306]

I love Pocoyo's animation style

[@mx_nana_banana]

there's a simple fix to this, let your baby listen to different types of music, like my parents let me listen to gregorian chanting, country, folk, rock, rap, and rockabilly, and today i love all types of music.

[@Sorrowdusk]

Have you tried mongolian metal?

[@georgesracingcar7701]

I’m sure a baby would enjoy classical!

[@burg.ste_her6496]

totally agree! When my brother and I were little we had exposure to all sorts of music and we absolutely loved it. We would often sing to it no matter what genre or language it was in and also mimic conducting etc. I think it's really important that parents try to make as much as possible out of their children's childhood without pressuring them. They will try out as much as possible if given the freedom to :)

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

@@Sorrowdusk That's a thing?

[@Sorrowdusk]

@@legrandliseurtri7495 oh yes it is my friend :3 1.3 million subs. (turn on subtitles for translation) kzbin.info/www/bejne/oH6blXZ9ftJpr8U

[@salvatoreshiggerino6810]

I remember being 5 years old with my aunt showing me how to play Frère Jacques on the piano, but not before sternly telling me to keep off the black keys. Which made me only want to use the black keys more.

[@MichKlo]

When I was a toddler my uncle was in his high school. We were given a small 4 octaves keyboard I think and my brother played it until it broke. My father fix it and it broke again after 3 years. Now my brother has perfect pitch.

[@maxscott3349]

Thanks, I'll start teaching my kids calculus a decade early.

[@sequentiacyclica]

I mean it's not even like calculus is insanely hard you just need to understand the fundamentals of math that is commonly regarded as easier. Not even an awful idea if you want to raise a genius lol.

[@caramelldansen2204]

that's not at all how that works sound, and hence music, are inherent to the human experience mathematics is an abstract theory of numbers, something we've had to make to make sense of what our pattern recognition system creates. numbers make sense to babies, yes. the abstract theories of changing and interactive with multiple numbers at a time? not when your kids might not even have a theory of mind yet!

[@sequentiacyclica]

@@caramelldansen2204 that's true but it's still a hilarious concept

[@maxscott3349]

@@caramelldansen2204 I don't know, I had some of those concepts turning over in my head when I was pretty young. I still wish someone had taught me more advanced math earlier.

[@divisix024]

You should start with the Peano axioms, consutrct the natural numbers, nd then the integers, and then the rationals, and then real numbers. Then you finally get to sequences, series, and limits, and finally calculus.

[@chronicallymeee]

I'm currently in Uni studying music, and although most people are pretty shocked I'm a musician and my mum is Deaf I think it helped a lot in this early stage. We had a piano, and my grandparents had gotten me a few other instruments since I seemed to like them so much, including a mini guitar (not ukelele everyone always called it a ukelele it's 6 strings tuned like a guitar) and a mini accordion, and I had basically free reign of all of those instruments during my free time. Because my mum was Deaf I had no limits on what type of sounds I made, I think a large amount of the disdain for dissonance isn't for the babies' sake, it's for the parents. Adults don't want to hear minor seconds being smashed on a piano in quick succession with off key wailing. But if we think about how babies learn speech, they don't do things "right" the first time, they have to develop an understanding of what they are capable of.

[@Tantacrul]

I guess we always have to remember that all baby products are advertised at us. Thanks for watching! Appreciate the comment.

[@sebasty6111]

@@Tantacrul Of course, it's the parents that buy them! Sadly it takes finding this video on youtube and a moment of thought to realize this. I don't remember having any "kidified music instruments", but I did have a large casio keyboard. I don't do music as of now, but I love a lot of different music. My future kid(s) will be subject to a lot of weird things. :')

[@fred-youtube]

If you're a parent that would find constant minorkeys annoying, remember how tinnyand distorted the speakers in toys are, and get yourself a pair of noise-cancelling headphones.

[@flightlessbirdjr9163]

This vid made me pretty proud of my mother. As far back as I can remember she had me listening to baroque classical and Latin operas.

[@allsorts46]

First I found your video on Sibelius' interface and loved that because I'm a software developer that actually cares about creating usable UI and it drives me crazy when others, often companies with relatively unlimited resources, don't. I was hoping for more videos on interfaces of other programs, so took a look at your videos and oh... they're generally about music, but hey I have an interest (though basic knowledge and zero skill) in music theory, let's try. Watched your video on Hallelujah and agreed with and loved that. Then I saw this and agreed with and loved this. 3 out of 3 with great production and highly entertaining, that's a subscribe from me!

[@Tantacrul]

Thanks very much! I've a lot more design stuff to come.

[@WolfrostWasTaken]

Exact same thing for me. I love when I discover new channels like this! I used to study music theory when I was younger so I'm really interested in these kind of videos

[@cavemann_]

"When I disagree with someone then I look up on the topic myself. When I agree with someone then something must be wrong with that person." The second sentence is kind of a hyperbole, but do keep in mind that just taking everything in as they tell you might not always be entirely true (especially dominant in Thoughty2 audience type). It's just a friendly reminder to question your sources and what's fed to you, farewell. That being said, Tantacrul's videos are really good, have an updoot.

[@resourcedragon]

According to my mother, the thing that would calm me when I was a baby was the music of J.S. Bach. By contrast, I hated her singing lullabies. Have you considered making some musical instruments for your twins, or buying something inexpensive but which still allows for a good deal of flexibility of sound production and which allows the children to explore musical concepts?

[@ruthenium6648]

Growing up as a kid, my parents put Led Zeppelin, Gorillaz, Pink Floyd and so on sometimes and the music videos scared me. Now Pink Floyd is my favourite band. So I totally agree.

[@arkennoren0]

Music influences from your parents really do make a difference. I'm in love with alt-rock having listened to Arctic Monkeys, Cage the Elephant, The Strokes, The White Stripes, and many more bands and artists with my dad while I was way younger.

[@magencrisis1682]

I love Pink Floyd as well, and your comment brought back memories of when I first stumbled upon their music + clips of "the Wall" movie back when I was in elementary school and had just discovered I could listen and watch music videos on a computer connected to the internet. The bollocks-judge has been living in a deep dark corner of my memory ever since.

[@georgesracingcar7701]

I remember that my father a long time ago (probably 2014) when I was still in single-digits accidentally played the music video for Good Song by Blur. He clicked off because the video was sad and melancholy (and birds died via the X’s in their eyes) and probably feared, therefore, that this would hurt my young self. Now I’m mad because I go back to that music video and song today, and I think it’s awesome (and very clearly emotional, which would be very intriguing to a baby.) I don’t know what science says, but I do wish he did not pause the music video all those years ago.

[@daemonspudguy]

My mom is a Floydian. I recently (ie last two years) got in to Pink Floyd as well after watching Pink Floyd - The Wall. I was in a really low point during the lockdowns, so the themes of social isolation really resonated with me. And now half of my phone's storage is taken up by music from the Floyd and King Crimson.

[@jingqiao661]

5:42 Oh my god this man has given his child perfect pitch

[@Akirakirakirakiraa]

I find this video interesting cus I remember my parents playing me a lot of “experimental” music along with the usual childrens songs. My mom is big on classical, but along with the usual Mozart’s and Telemann’s she also played recordings of The Rite Of Spring and I believe a few Toshiro Mayuzumi compositions like the Nirvana symphony. Apparently I didn’t really shriek in terror towards musical dissonance as a kid so that really helps your argument.

[@TechnoJon96]

Bumping, but I think that there's a very important point that's been overlooked here. Circa 6:25, you play an example of one of these "children's songs". I'm struck not by the musical elements (well, except for the, uh, 'singing') but by the implied relationships between the words and the visuals. Notice that, while they accomplish a mid-tier indication for "the wheels on the bus" ("what are 'wheels'?"), they immediately cut to dancing windshield wipers for "round and round". What does "round and round" mean again?? Then, for the next bit, we suddenly have an acid trip, and astral project to the inside the bus...wait, what were "wheels" again??? However, in defense of the next bit, after living in the tri-state / metropolitan area for a few years now I can in fact confirm that "all through the town" and ~bashing the horn~ are synonymous

[@theskv21]

While it’s true that we don’t start babies with garbled speech, we do baby-talk to them a lot, and apparently that does have some benefits. Probably because the sounds are exaggerated which is a great way of teaching them the aspects of their mother tongue’s phonology that are important.

[@planefan082]

Actually the opposite; baby-talk is quite harmful

[@theskv21]

@@planefan082 sources? And for what ages and for how long?

[@caramelldansen2204]

@@theskv21 I'm leaving a comment so I can get notified about the source of Plane's claims (if there is one...)

[@paisleepunk]

@@caramelldansen2204 Mostly not. Likely from personal experience.

[@duo6366]

@@caramelldansen2204 hi

[@Yolligraphone]

Was NOT expecting Zalgo text in the subtitles at 2:14. My god, the production value on all your videos is through the roof.

[@Stingetan]

Hey, I got my one year old niece a child's xylophone with no sharp/flat keys. It is set at an angle and has a hole at the top where you can put a ball so that it rolls across the keys and plays the scale. And it is cute as hell. Great video as always. Also: that horse gallop sound from the keyboard sounds like a burst fire rifle, not a horse lol

[@r3ked272]

Hey, those cheap beeping toys aren't worthless! You can circuit bend them.

[@Deluxeta]

2:52 Accidental grime music

[@HocWeng]

one of those things lol

[@Gnurklesquimp]

Wow, now that you've said that, you could totally pull that off lol

[@Gnurklesquimp]

Sick grooves come from the weirdest places

[@ludwigvanbeethoven7373]

"No matter how much you quack quack, daddy ducks are never coming back back."

[@natatwee]

Super insightful and cool to think about. This and your Hallelujah video gave me hope for the world lmao, we need more intelligent musical perspectives on the interwebs so please keep up the good work !!

[@popefrancis6932]

Im really happy someone brings this up. I worked as a substitute teacher at a kindergarden and was amazed by the amount of generic, low quality, nursery-rhyme youtube videos. When the kids went to sleep, they would just put on "twinkle-twinkle" in a speaker and walk out. When they put me in charge of the nap time, i would eather hum some of the music i heard as a child, or put on some more "interesting" music. As a result, almost all kids went to sleep a lot quicker. There was a calmness, and a connection trough the music. I asked them about their toughts on children and music, and they said they hadn't really tought about it.

[@slenderface1239]

Some Music channels: Hey guys, today I'll teach you the basics of Trumpet playing. Tantacrul: Hello yes I'll explain why having good nursery rhymes are good for your kids, don't question or I eat your liver.

[@Weaseldog2001]

I'm active in the American, Irish music community. I am a bit jealous and envious of Irish musicians I know, who were leaning music and sitting in sessions in their homes while still toddlers. In one example, a young man said he was handed a Bodhran while still in diapers, and invited to play along with the family and friends, who were playing jigs, reels and singing songs. He's gone on to perform and write music for major shows that tour the world. Before entered grade school, he was already starting on other instruments like the flute and guitar. Although I grew up with a grandfather who played all of his life, and even a recorded a 78 back in the 1940s, I was told that I would be taught to play when I was old enough. I finally had to start learning on my own, as it seems I never got old enough... So I grew up with a love of music, but did not get a foundation for it, when it would've been easy for me to master it. And I continue to struggle with concepts that I see children easily mastering. So I think your thoughts here are spot on.

[@RohannvanRensburg]

Ah, yes! Great video, this needs to be pointed out more. All this obsession with simplicity and a bottom-up approach is completely contrary to updated learning theory and how children learn every single other skill in life. I wonder if it's a consequence of the garbage educational system many parts of the western world have had for so long. I think people misunderstand the purpose of nursery rhymes and lullaby's. Most are adaptations of folk songs, which are easily passed on, easily playable on many different instruments, and easy to sing (the melodies generally are, anyway, there's some crazy folk music out there). Especially considering most were written in the years prior to recorded music, their purpose is not to gradually ease a child into music and "make them smarter", the purpose was to preserve local/cultural/generational melodies and make music easily accessible to common folk. Lullaby's are again, simple and relatively memorable melodies that are easy for a non-musically trained parent to sing to a child on a regular basis as a source of comfort or for family unity, entertainment, for ease of participation of younger children, etc. All of these purposes are still perfectly valid, but being played through a chunk of plastic isn't going to make a child smarter. "Lord knows dissonance is bad for babies" Hahaha, too true. We're so brainwashed by radio pop to be averted to anything *remotely* dissonant. Have a listen to Turkish or Hungarian pop or folk music.

[@KnakuanaRka]

As for that last one, I looked up some Turkish and Hungarian pop and didn't find anything; I probably could have looked harder, but still. You have any examples of such songs that deliberately use dissonance?

[@ianmoore5502]

As I've grown older I've realized A: how often people underestimated my and my peer's intelligence as children to a degree that made some of us undervalue it and underdevelop it (except my own parents and some others, bless 'em) and B: how crazy smart pretty much ALL children are.

[@jachrishalt]

One of the best channels on youtube, keep it up man. FOR DEM TWIN BOIS

[@miatra4954]

no joke i had this on in the background while studying for my essay on child language acquisition tomorrow and 3:10 has convinced me youtube is watching

[@StrayMedicine]

This shouldn't only apply to your children when it comes to music. Think about all aspects of media and entertainment as an opportunity for furthering their intelligence, be picky about all of it and make sure it all has artistic integrity and nuance. Culture your kids from an early age. Pains me to think about what kind of brain rot is happening from the garbage animation in those Videogyan clips and what level of incompetence it took to make in the first place. There's a lot of this kinda terrible stuff in children's entertainment. D:

[@caramelldansen2204]

remember, wellbeing isn't important under capitalism as long as the kids are watching the videos (hence watching the adverts) or getting their parents to buy the cheaply-made plastic tat, then it doesn't matter to those in charge what goes into children's heads (see: removal of advertising regulations for children, and the terrible adverts-disguised-as-shows that kids in the 80s and 90s were shown all their lives - and they turned out fine!! 🙄)

[@andrewkahler6399]

I have a rich and quite busy family; as a result, I (and three other siblings) have been exposed to technology ever since I could remember. So it shouldn't come as a surprise that it was us to find the glory of KZbin, and most importantly, cheap ‘kids’ channels. They didn't seem to care though, probably because it was a convenience for them and ‘stimulation’ for us. After more than an entire decade of my developmental years with technology having barged in (and a different house), us four lazily rule the landing whilst the parents do actual stuff. I'm still thirteen. I deserve a better life.

[@andrewkahler6399]

“No matter how much you quack quack, daddy duck's never coming back back.” Scarily true for some children affected by this.

[@bucknature]

Good on you for the great videos whilst raising twins! I have 8 month boys myself now (along with my older two singletons). I’ve been rearing mine on a diet of Yellow Magic Orchestra, Steve Reich, and the Beatles. I found your page through the David Bruce page and the incredible video “5 Composers 1 Theme”. I think I’ll turn my babies onto the excellent sounds coming from these 5 composers! Cheers!

[@kevinsundelin8639]

As I have grown older I find this video more and more interesting since I'm considering getting children of my own in the future. Music is very important to me and I want to make sure I give them the best foundation possible, even if they don't end up musicians like myself. I think something else that's good to teach children is variety. For example, my dad used to feed me a bunch of different kinds of food as a kid, which has led to me liking a lot of different foods which makes cooking simpler since they didn't have to dumb it down for me and we could all eat the same things and be on the same level. And I think that's also important, being on the same level as your kid. I did a summer job at a kindergarten and it's fascinating how smart they actually are. They recognize when you're talking down to them and prefer when you talk to them like an equal. They appreciate it and it helps them learn more. When there's a word they don't understand, tell them! No one can be harmed by learning. And don't be afraid to be honest with them, kids can be very tolerant and understanding.

[@kingdededelicious]

"Just give em' Wii Music, they'll be fine" -Fat Lazy Penguin

[@musicalaviator]

When I was growing up, my dad was singing in clubs and would practice at home regularly since before I can remember. At age 3, my favourite record that dad owned was Jean-Michel Jarre's Rendez-Vous. And when I was 5, I was left alone with dad's big stereo one night while the adults were all distracted having a barbeque cookout and I found the Classical Music radio station and listened to Mahler's first Symphony all the way through, which stuck with me and was one of the main reasons I decided that the Trumpet was the instrument for me.

[@adamczech8505]

I started doodling around with instruments propably as soon as I was able to hold my head. My oldest memories are always in regard to music. My niece, 2 years, will get her first keyboard this christmas.

[@Melissa0774]

OMG somebody finally agrees with me! I've been saying what was said in this video for years! I've also heard, I think from an Oliver Saks documentary, that research has shown that kids develop a lifelong taste for whatever music they heard most before the age of nine. So if you want your kid to be musical and to like good stuff, you have to play it in your home on a good stereo system, which many people don't do anymore. A lot of people use crappy terrible sounding little speakers with the volume turned way down and they wonder why their kids hate things like classical music. And for the love of god, give them access to real musical instruments, so they can know early enough, if they have talent and want to pursue it. You don't want your kid to buy a violin on a whim at 30, be able to play it immediately without lessons and realize, "oh shit I probably could've been a child prodigy and been in the New York Phil by now if I started at 5." It happens. I think Americans are overall becoming less musical for these reasons and also the fact that music education/appreciation is being taken out of schools. Maybe you might not think that's a big deal, but there's a lot of naturally talented, passionate musicians, for whom music is the only thing they could ever be good at. This sort of nonsense is taking away jobs that they desperately need because of the decreasing demand.

[@radiobiologist]

Musical instruments should be democratised and made cheaper.

[@zvxcvxcz]

@@radiobiologist Well, that's an engineering problem... some are cheaper than others. It can also be a funding problem. Some schools are able to lend instruments to their students. Now if we could just get districts to stop wasting money on iPads for 2nd graders they might just be able to afford proper fundamental resources. Unfortunately, donations and grants they receive are often from people that don't have a great understanding of education themselves and often come earmarked for certain uses. That is, they will receive a "technology grant" that can only be spent on iPads, or ChromeBooks, or those silly digital whiteboards... that sort of thing.

[@radiobiologist]

@@zvxcvxcz Our school had cheap recorders.

[@tomymas38]

Yet we all can agree on something... We all hate those nursery rhymes channels.

[@Buklen]

@6:23 look at the facial expression on that bus. the bus has become sentient and it's pure evil. The little girl is standing at the door, but she's clearly not getting out alive, the bus has blown past her stop at blistering speed. The driver has completely lost control, hence why their furiously beeping the horn. That's why the music moves into a relative minor key. It's not the music that has gone rogue, it's the bus.

[@bit_ronic]

2:50 _musical beeping_ _cat-ish sound_ *_gunshots_* _musical beeping_ *_more gunshots_*

[@CrankyRayy]

OMG THEY'RE PUTTING GUN SOUNDS IN KIDS TOYS SO THEY GROW UP TO BE SCHOOL SHOOTERS AND THEN LIBERALS HAVE AN EXCUSE TO TO TAKE AWAY OUR GUNS AAAAA - Alex Jones

[@raygun76]

brilliant... the parallels between language acquisition and music are so often overlooked, and the pandering of oversimplified musical content to small children by creators/parents with their own fear of music

[@SGresponse]

THAT PLATE. THAT IS COMEDY GOLD. I have a daughter. She is now 23months old. Cameo ; White Stripes ; Jet ; Queen ; Cake ; The Hooters ; Gnarls Barkley ; Devo ; System of a Down ; Church of the Cosmic Skull ; Ghost ; Ben Caplan And every night since day 1 - Riven, Myst, Myst III, Myst IV, Diary of Edith Finch ; Obduction ; Myst V. On a loop. Recently she started requesting it on even before she goes to sleep. Shame she didn't take a liking do Debussey in her early months. But she does enjoy Elisabethan chamber music and folk in general. She also enjoys crap-pop, but you can't win them all.

[@RohannvanRensburg]

Kids that "get" good music burn out on crap pop, though. They all go through phases. Just like fast food isn't fulfilling after you become accustomed to world cuisine, she'll come around :). My 20 month old goes through phases of carefully selected simple music/pop, but I make sure it's the likes of i.e. Abba. She still requests Bach, Howard Shore, Joe Hisaishi, John Williams and Chopin more consistently than pop, though. I think a good compromise for kids is complex music with memorable melodies and rhythms, i.e. all of the great composers, and specific film composers like Williams.

[@metadaat5791]

You might learn a thing or two from your daughter about enjoying "crap pop", then? Seriously, it's a worthwhile endeavour. Unlike what many people who don't enjoy "crap pop" think, learning to enjoy "crap pop" will not dull your musical senses, but just like learning to appreciate any other new genre, it will broaden your musical palate. Because of course you don't need to buy into the whole celebrity consumerism aspect of it, just like you don't need to be Christian to enjoy certain religious classical music. If you need an intro to what drives this style of music (spoilers: it's capitalistic greed -- which is exactly as wholesome as the religious piety that inspired much of early classical music), try reading KLF - The Manual (you can find many pdf versions on line for free and it's a hilarious read). And I don't know, Information Society for your crap pop to study. Sometimes their lyrics are really good, but for 90% it is love song relationship cheese (the pentatonic scale of lyrics, over-used but it always works, always relatable). They sound just like a 90s boy band (except it's two dudes and a woman). You don't have to take it too seriously, but in this case, you CAN win them all, but it's on you not your daughter, to lean the appreciation.

[@Seahorsegaming]

I have to confess that I actually like that rogue relative minor chord...

[@ogatoulas]

Absolutely! Why not?

[@hugobouma]

​@Oak-tail Western tonal harmony, even when it's just the simple V-I movement of a nursery rhyme, has a grammar and a syntax to it just like any language, or indeed like any other style of music. And same as with language, the first things children pick up are the most foundational aspects of this grammar, like where in a sentence a verb should go. The text of children's books is simple (short sentences, no unusual word order, no weird dependent clauses, etc) but always consistently grammatical. Writing this way is actually tricky for adults to do well, which is why "children's author" is a real profession. In the same way the musical content of a nursery rhyme, however simple, should be grammatical, and since the distinction between V and I is one of the most fundamental aspects of Western tonal harmony, you don't want to muddle that up. "Children's musician" is also a real profession, and I doubt any of those were consulted for the Five Little Ducks video. Compare it to reading the child a book that's been lazily Google-translated word for word into English while keeping the word order from, say, Korean. Would you consider it pretentious to say that that's not How Language Works and that thet wouldn't be the best for the kid's language acquisition? (Of course, if you actually speak Korean, by all means teach the kid that too. And for that matter, expose them to the grammar & syntax of Korean music and they will get a feel for that as well.)

[@gergoretvari6373]

I'd prefer it to be an Edim

[@alexismiller2349]

6:22 "let's start with a minor" Epic

[@namkedi]

ALSO ONE THING BABY TOYS ARE ALL LABELED AS “ZYLOPHONES” WHEN THEY ARE ACTUALLY GLOCKENSPIELS WHY

[@burg.ste_her6496]

did anyone else notice at 1:12 that Shostakovich is just hanging there on the wall

[@exosproudmamabear558]

Babies are like sponges. Show them to advanced stuff then teach them the basic parts. It keeps them curious and familiar when the time comes. I learned English that way, I just started to watch anime with English subs when I was 12. I was watching Death Note(For people don't know it a very difficult anime to understand without proper understanding in language) and absolutely didn't understand most of the anime but I somewhat learned both English and Japanese after watching a bunch of animes. So challenges are good for brain and helps you learn quicker