Starfield News - Paid Creation Conundrum

[@sharkicornking6360]

While I get that there is a portion of the community that is hung up on doing achievements, the larger portion doesn't really care and will continue to happily enjoy mods whether they are achievement friendly or not. Really need mod authors to understand that and not get discouraged because of the achievement thing.

[@RichardBejtlich]

I get that. I do a vanilla only run for all new content and the side effect is that I get achievements. Still, there's some significant portion of players that want both mods and achievements, so it's a conundrum.

[@zeroone8800]

As long as Bethesda is still adding achievements from future expansions, I need to keep an achievement friendly save, so I don't have to start from strach. It doesn't need to be my only save, but it does disincentivize making other saves.

[@FinntheHuman24]

Agreed 💯

[@JimLayneFH]

Couldn't agree more! I just love playing Starfield and could care less about achievements.

[@mikeymondavi]

convoy up, keep fightin that good fight man.

[@RichardBejtlich]

You bet, thanks for watching!

[@dynamicphotography_]

Hey there. Been enjoying the Starfield News for a few videos now. Finally dropping a Sub. You have a real good style for Starfield content.

[@RichardBejtlich]

TYVM and welcome aboard! I appreciate it.

[@Carblesnarky]

Skyrim did just fine without achievements being disabled for modded games. Bethesda just needs to go back to that. This only really effects console players really because you can mod it out on pc. There isn't really a good reason for it. It's a single player game.

[@RichardBejtlich]

I get that. Like I said though, console is at least 5x the PC player base, so what they want has an outsized effect.

[@Carblesnarky]

@@RichardBejtlich Oh no question the console players are the bigger market. However, Skyrim was released on console with achievements being enabled as well. Even before mods hit consoles there were well known ways to cheat/exploit the game. The resto loop being a famous one. Using those tricks didn't stop achievements. See what I mean? You can also do cheats & exploits in Starfield without needing mods. So there really is no point to have this being an issue. Bethesda just needs to stop it.

[@jeffk6686]

They need to fix the stutter issue in the Well and other locations. It's been happening, at least, since Shattered Space. I've read several posts from other players experiencing the same thing. It's very annoying and immersion breaking.

[@RichardBejtlich]

Sounds frustrating. What platform? Any mods?

[@skyriminspace]

I get it in the Well, inside Neon's main interior cell & inside ryujin tower. It causes a really distracting stutter of a few frames every couple of seconds maybe. It kind of messes up lip sync as well. Playing on pc with about 30 mods exclusively from creations.

[@JaredKohr]

Speculation - could be tied to that lighting overhaul they did with or around the release of shattered space? Worth disabling Shattered Space to confirm it is Shattered Space and not a recent update. Lighting can be very performance heavy.

[@TheHst2112]

@@RichardBejtlich The stutter becomes more noticeable when you've done a lot of exploration. It goes away again when you do NG+. You can visually see it if you use Rivatuner with a frametime graph. At first you don't really notice it but eventually it gets really noticeable when you are moving. A side effect is that your FPS drops every time you open the scanner and goes back up once you close the scanner. Inside the Ryujin HQ is another place where the stutter is very noticeable.

[@justinsmith3456]

I noticed a stutter start around the time I started shattered space. Though I think my issue is related to the new AMD driver that rolled out a few weeks ago. I don't get the same stutter your describing. Mine appears to be more of a system load issue but it presents itself in interior cells more than places like New Atlantis which is strange.

[@Ed-ealmighty]

I don't want a free modded version because thats not achievement friendly... free creations causes you to play with a separate creation save file character which is not your actual vanilla character if something happens to your creations character save file you have to delete it and the mods and then repeat replay everything u did but if it's a paid creation it doesnt matter if something happens to your creations character save file because u already did everything got all of your paid achievement friendly creations in your vanilla starfield meaning if u did it in your vanilla game then decided that u wanted to add free mods to your game all of your paid creations have already been obtained/ completed (outfits/weapons/skills whatever etc etc) will remain in your vanilla starfield because u already did this stuff in your vanilla game so if u have to restart a new paid & or free modded starfield you only have to repeat replay the free modded stuff that was added u know reobtain it. Edit: Also if u have to pay for a paid companion mod such as Robin Locke Lyria Emily archer Dereck They sould not take up a companion slot... I paid for them to travel with me at all times... Not be stuck on a ship u less i dismiss them for another companion... It should be your choice if you want to leave them in the ship... And why is their no fallout 4 like armorsmith or no fallout 4 like wacky weapons? Mcclarrence outfitters is nice but its no armorsmith @ 13:48 whuch makes no sense cuz whats the first thing u see when u arrive at the key?.. That pirates have no loyalty to one another they themselves will kill eachother.

[@RichardBejtlich]

Thanks for watching! 🙏🙏🙏

[@henrycarlson7514]

Interesting , Thank You . Convoy

[@RichardBejtlich]

TYVM for watching! 🔥🔥🔥

[@Minion1972]

Hi there, thank you so much for featuring my Lazarus Awakened mod, I’m thrilled you had fun with it

[@RichardBejtlich]

Thanks for watching and for making such excellent mods. I look forward to trying Regrets soon. 🔥🔥🔥

[@azboakes3900]

I don't understand who told Bethesda we wanted achievements with a modded run through of the game 🤷🏻‍♂️ dose it effect the game na

[@RichardBejtlich]

True I have one player I keep totally vanilla.

[@skyriminspace]

That chewbaca mod looks awesome. Especially the "scaling up" as he leaves his seat. 😂 So much great stuff on display here, it's clear starfield's modding scene is absolutely dead.

[@RichardBejtlich]

Wasn’t that hilarious 😂

[@matthewpeterson6414]

Nice to see your commitment

[@RichardBejtlich]

Thank you! 🙏

[@magister.mortran]

You don't need console commands to remove Robin Locke's helmet. Just give her some clothes. She wears the space suit, because she is naked underneath. She is like that, so you are free to dress her up as you like.

[@RichardBejtlich]

No kidding! Ok, I will do that. Thanks for the tip. 🔥🔥🔥

[@BeKind1Love]

Bought some paid mods and they were unusable imo. That apc gets stuck on EVERYTHING and i cant even refund for credits.

[@RichardBejtlich]

Ugh that is no fun.

[@GoldenLeafsMovies]

I'm pretty sure you can refund, you have to get in touch with Bethesda support and the purchase has to be recent.

[@anderporascu5026]

Convoy, these mods are the lifeblood of Starfield. I see Bethesda's future of being largely run by modders when the current devs retire. Bethesda started off a studio run by devs who did commissioned games for others whether movies, sports or other arcades. By the 90s came Elder Scrolls and their other RPGs developed by the team that was new with mods emphasized so their future is secure.

[@RichardBejtlich]

Thanks for watching!

[@SahVulon]

great video mate

[@RichardBejtlich]

Thanks a lot!

[@SahVulon]

@@RichardBejtlich Sah likes that +2.5% affinity

[@ardentdfender4116]

You really keep us informed about the game. Didn’t know anything about the conundrum with mods, achievements and paid mods with mod authors. But you’re making people aware. I personally don’t care for achievements or in any game I play.

[@RichardBejtlich]

Glad you found it informative! Please share. 🙏🙏🙏

[@scurrah9794]

Wasn't aware of the mod conundrum. Has i have just recently started making some mods with the creation kit and was eventually going to publish some. So thanks for the information.

[@RichardBejtlich]

YW 🫡👏

[@jez556]

I'm just curious what do achievements add to the game? Not trying to start shit, but it seems like they are just a pat on the back.

[@RichardBejtlich]

Basically that. 😆 I get them all because I always play my vanilla OG Xbox character first and then do everything else modded.

[@greenmerrick7407]

⁠this is also my solution with my vanilla play through now one NG+ and 100 levels behind…

[@MagicGoblinPrincess]

Yeah, I genuinely don't understand why anyone cares about achievements in this or any other game. I just wanna play.

[@FinntheHuman24]

4:02 This I agree with

[@RichardBejtlich]

Cool, thanks for watching!

[@ytth439]

The paid mod goes deeper, we already have plenty of mods, even paid mods that are copies of other mods. Modder A creates a free mod. Modder B, an already verified creator, copies it, charges for it and makes it achievement friendly. Not ok. DownfallNemsis just released a new paid house that is achievement friendly. Using the shower in the house gives the player an XP boost. This tells me Bethesda does not care at all about achievements, only players do. This also only really matters for the xbox community. It's heartbreaking for me to watch mod developers and Bethesda prey on the poor xbox players. I was pretty liberal with my spending on creations, that stopped with this development. Not saying my wallet is closed, it's just now on life support. To end on a good note the Star Wars mods look amazing, I'm going to have to download them.

[@RichardBejtlich]

Copying in any way is NOT ok. I am willing to name names here if that would help.

[@jeffk6686]

It really seems like a money grab by Bethesda. I'm surprised Microsoft doesn't have anything to say about this. Achievements are tied to Microsoft rewards. I would think they wouldn't want it to be super easy to get achievements since you can use them to buy Xbox Live.

[@Whoopski007]

Thank you for another insightful video Richard. Convoy!

[@RichardBejtlich]

Thanks for watching! 🔥🔥🔥

[@Unwindfilms]

G'Day, Interesting video. I think positive criticism is necessary to strive in anything and I think Bethesda should at least consider your points and they know better to address them than myself. Now , I personally like the concept of achievement friendly mods in this game as I loved the ones in Fallout 4. My experience with them as being positive and really kept me playing as I like to hunt achievement trophies and I do no use other mods otherwise even I am in PC. From all the achievements mods that i have bought I only stuck to the ones I liked and thought were enhancing my playgame experience and with those I have not had any problems in this game so far. In brief, the achievement friendly concept is cool but as everything, is no perfect and with room for improvement, just have some patience and continue to enjoy the game which I am enjoying more since the increase of achievement friend status outside the developers of Bethesda studio and thus, the pool of mods increased . Let's keep these Bethesda outsiders in good mood and motivated so they can come with very cool mods. As far I am concerned, they have all my support :)

[@RichardBejtlich]

Very good -- thank you for watching!

[@willia451]

Mods aside. They aren't an issue. We need to know the next plans for the game from Bethesda. And soon. We are closing in on 3 months since the drop of our 1 and only Story Expansion / DLC. What is next? Is there something in the works or not? We still don't even have the Doom inspired Mod "At Hell's Gate" dropped yet. Where is it? We need to have something to look forward too. I don't know how much more plain I can make this.

[@RichardBejtlich]

Yes, I hope we get an end of year update like last year.

[@GoldenLeafsMovies]

I hope the next additions aren't creations but in the game updates itself, I don't wanna download creations that feel like they should be included in an update. (The cook quest and new vehicle)

[@christopherperdue3334]

I agree with you regarding the paid creation/ achievement friendly topic.

[@RichardBejtlich]

Cool, thanks for sharing, however you feel about it! 🙏

[@danceswithglowstix22]

There's an angle on paid mods that doesn;t get enough coverage: modders are players and players move on. Now you own a shiney paid mod that may break at any time BGS update the game. Congratulations! Sit back and watch BGS reputation flush away broken paid mod by broken paid mod. Side note for the Alive bounty missions - you have to open the scanner and press E (on PC) like the random crowd bounties *before* you enter combat with the target. Only then does stunning them complete the mission.

[@RichardBejtlich]

Support for paid mods is a legit issue. Mods should come with a disclaimer that support is at the discretion of the modder. And thanks for the tip with the Alive bounties -- I will try it. I've had success without consciously doing that so I'll take a closer look.

[@danceswithglowstix22]

@@RichardBejtlich It may only be the 'confront' alive missions that need it, but its been a bug since TA patch went live. I just do it by rote now if i make a mistake and take an 'alive'. It may be deliberate and why there is that convo in Twoshots bar about dead or alive.

[@IceBoNeZ]

"Convoy!" 👍🏼

[@RichardBejtlich]

Convoy!! Thanks for watching. 🔥🔥🔥

[@ignaciom8906]

1200 hours on Starfield in 24. Going for another run on Fallout 4 and beginning Indiana RN. Guess I'm a Bethesda guy 😎✌️

[@RichardBejtlich]

Rock on, enjoy! 🔥🔥🔥

[@dante001ish]

Sadly I don't think Bethesda values the work the free modders do, they want to nickel & dime people & they turn a blind eye to some of the paid mods which are just rubbish which could cause people to stop modding though many gaming companies seem to be intent on destroying their legacies & games nowadays.....some before they've even come out.

[@RichardBejtlich]

I do think Bethesda values modders BUT they need to do a better job with the systems and policies that put into practice. I hope someone there with authority sees this video and reaches out.

[@-drey]

Genuine question: Why does Bethesda place so much emphasis on achievements? Starfield’s achievements aren't feats of exceptional skill-things like visiting 200 systems or gathering 400 plants are tasks that most players can easily complete mods or not. As someone who has 100% completed Starfield, I believe it should be up to the player whether they pursue achievements. If someone wants to use an Andreja outfit mod while earning achievements, why should that matter? I understand that some mods might trivialize or bypass achievements, but those mods will always exist, regardless of Bethesda's policies. Wouldn't it make more sense to allow modders to mark their mods as achievement-friendly or even make all mods compatible with achievements by default? Policing this aspect of modding seems pointless and restrictive in the first place.

[@RichardBejtlich]

I don't think Bethesda emphasizes achievements, but some players do. I had considered discussing making all mods achievement friendly, but I couldn't square that with something like the cheat terminal. It's moot with achievement enabling mods though. Thanks for watching!

[@-drey]

@RichardBejtlich but there are already mods that enable achievements anyway. and if someone is going to cheat he will do it regardless

[@qwertyvypez]

Why did all the pirates on your ship say "Your not supposed to be here" ?

[@RichardBejtlich]

That’s their default script when you approach them at a POI. 😂

[@macronomicus]

It only effects console players, they always miss out on the most impactful mods anyway, they know & are accustomed to the depreciated modding experience. The achievements thing is no big deal for most I'd bet, & its true, Beth having to spend time verifying means they need budget for it, I can totally understand why they did that, & why they have creations system for console players. Im glad I dont have a console though lol, I love to mod & to make mods, that requires a PC🤷‍♂ ive not decided if I'll add anything to the official creations shop, but I know I will add to Nexus mods. As history shows & time rolls on, console players will be vastly outnumbered by pc & steam players, especially when it comes to heavy modding. IMHO there is room for both systems, I dont get into the hate or negativity around it like some do.

[@RichardBejtlich]

Hello, thanks for watching! I think the Creations feature has changed the game for modding. My last video shows there are 5x more Xbox mod users than PC mod users. The Xbox player base is just way larger. It will only get bigger when SF goes to Playstation. I don't think achievements are THAT big a deal, but it's something Bethesda should address. 🔥🔥🔥

[@me2olive]

I'm sorry, but korodic is wrong. There are "cheat" mods on Creations, which Bethesda is fully aware of via VCs mentioning them directly, and Bethesda has made no attempt to remove achievement-friendly status from any of them. They were mentioned in that discord conversation with Deebz that you quoted. That demonstrates that achievement-friendly status requires no "review"; it's automatic if a paid Creation requests it. Hence the whole argument that Bethesda should be "compensated" for such a review is bogus. Bethesda has also not paused applications to the VC programme, demonstrating that this has nothing to do with lack of reviewers/oversight. The decision to restrict achievements to paid Creations (let alone to VCs) is I'm afraid a rather obvious break from a previous understanding, that free and paid mods would have feature parity. Now some features are being restricted to paid mods only, at least for Xbox. Even if achievements mean nothing to you personally, this really should have people questioning what this will mean for modding in future Bethesda games, it's not exactly setting a great precedent. As someone who has released a number of mods for Starfield on both Creations and Nexus, and who has made several contributions to the community patch, I'm 100% with Deebz on this. And sadly the lack of pushback on this from the community will be telling Bethesda that this was absolutely the right move to promote paid Creations.

[@RichardBejtlich]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! 🙏

[@me2olive]

@@RichardBejtlich lol, I should have kept watching and not commented mid-video, you covered this in the next section I see 😅 Although I disagree that authors should need to be VCs to ask for their mods to be tagged as achievement friendly, particularly if your system of voting is adopted; no reason why any mod shouldn't be eligible, there's no benefit to an author being a VC in that case.

[@RichardBejtlich]

Fair enough! My VC reasoning was to start with that smaller group, and then expand if it works well.

[@Steel-101]

The creation club stuff is cool, but yeah, I did experience a bit of a bug because of one of them. I downloaded one that had special revolvers(I think it was the Ryujin revolver, DLC). Right after I downloaded that, the handle for my rare Razorback revolver disappeared. Only after I deleted that creation DLC, the handle came back. So yeah, I wouldn’t go crazy buying all of the creations. Same thing goes for the other Bethesda games.

[@RichardBejtlich]

Yeah I manage my load order pretty closely too!

[@77Arcturus]

Had a similar situation with the jump packs where i used one of the boost packs they created and it made all the jump packs stop working. I ended up stuck on top of a tall building where i had to slowly jump down on ledges and the top of trees to get down to surface. After i uninstalled the mod and restarted from an earlier save everything was back to normal. Now am staying completely away from CREATION CLUB CONTENT. This is some really bad quality of assurance stuff going on. Never had these issues with their previous games.

[@Steel-101]

@ yeah, it is unfortunate. However, The “official” DLC from Bethesda has worked fine for me. Like the tracker stuff, The free star born suit, The sailors ship build, etc. those haven’t given me any problems. It’s just all of the massive extra stuff that’s questionable. The only thing that I have, that’s not on the official Bethesda DLC page is some weapon skins for Laredo(thankfully, no problems there).

[@77Arcturus]

@@Steel-101 Glad to hear and thanks for the info. I have the Free Star Born Suit and was thinking that was giving me the boost pack bug. Will have to check it out again see if the bug shows up again. No issues with the SHATTERED SPACE DLC at least not out of the norm ha ha.

[@Steel-101]

@@77Arcturus i’ve been using that Star born space suit before shattered space and I’ve had no issues. Keep in mind I am on the Xbox series X so if you’re on PC, of course you may have different experiences with bugs. As for shattered space the only problem I’ve had with the DLC is that the leader ship perk removes the reactions from companions. But recently they did fix that, because every companion just flooded me with dialogue about my Choice to stop the serpents crusade over a week later.

[@anwarhall2405]

Played this game like crazy but stopped recently. It's too broken to keep trying to progress further. Hopefully Bethesda gets it together over the next two years but just how the game was developed there's too much that seriously can't be changed to make the game better.

[@RichardBejtlich]

Hmm, what do you think is broken?

[@FinntheHuman24]

3:17 💯 Disagree

[@RichardBejtlich]

Yeah I am not aligned with that either.

[@frujinassen9076]

convoy!!!

[@RichardBejtlich]

TYVM for watching!

[@PhatBoyzClub]

I dont care about achievements but I guarantee almost every popular mod in the future will be paid, there is no way m$ will allow nexus to host mods in the future for free this is a gradual tactic to kill of the passionate free modding scene (especially modlists like Nolvus)and turn it into a revenue stream. Mods should work on donation I donate, that keeps the motivation grounded on passion not money. That being said ill pay for mods if thats the future there is no way around it. Its not about money for me, paying is not a problem, I thought it was great while the community of non business minded people modded games for fun existed. Microsoft has destroyed a huge chunk of games permanently with their buyout.

[@RichardBejtlich]

I don't think M$ or Xbox cares at all about mod revenue. "Microsoft annual gross profit for 2024 was $171.008B, a 17.09% increase from 2023." Mod revenue probably means more to Bethesda, but I don't know for sure because the revenue split is under NDA and the most recent numbers are from 2015. Bethesda can use mod revenue to support continued development on games that released years ago.

[@StefanHighlights-InquisitorOvh]

Neither will paid mods overcome free mods and neither will games collapse because of the paid mods. Paid mods enables mod authors to earn something for hundreds of hours of their work. Others who do not care about that are free to release free mods. And donate them around. Not everyone "must" publish free mods. You can just scroll down paid mods. There is too much complainments about something completely optional

[@SahVulon]

but to tell you the truth is at the moment I dont trust Creation mods ... one is that I hate there are so many EXPENSIVE mods on sale and are not free ... and that destroy my game or are not so good in execution (like a crimson fleet hab mod that looks real cool but has no crew or pasinger slots) your getting paid do a good job ... please

[@RichardBejtlich]

Yes the quality range is all over the place...

[@SahVulon]

@@RichardBejtlich Sah likes that +2.5% affinity ... When you have the time I have things I would like to talk to you about ... some time later ...flirting ... next thing you know is we are married ... lol