Star Trek Enters The Horror Gallery with Night Terrors (TNG S4E17) | STJ 198

[@targetaudience]

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[@teagusmeagus7168]

Are these dramatic intros going somewhere? I keep looking for a plot and it keeps hinting at one and it never gets there. As far as I can tell, there’s some kind of memory loss, violence, and built up hostility, but that’s all I know. Did I miss something? Is there a full version?

[@jonelliott7319]

The Jeri Taylor tribute at the start was really thoughtful. Cheers, lads.

[@julioverne579]

Jeri Taylor LOL. Legend of Life. She MADE Voyager. The best Star Trek Series of all times

[@Noisy_Snax]

The scariest part of this is how you somehow timed it to be the last TNG before Hallowe'en

[@mjbull5156]

Riker: "Guinan, why do you have a big gun behind the Ten Forward bar?" Guinan: " Do you realize how often Starfleet crews randomly go violently insane? Of course, I'm packing heat!"

[@GregPrice-ep2dk]

Fun Fact: Guinan's rifle was a repaint of a laser rifle prop used in Glen Larson's Buck Rogers.

[@danbower4704]

What an appropriate pre-Halloween episode. 💀

[@targetaudience]

Timing is a funny thing

[@MrSheckstr]

A point about worf attempting suicide…. His fear was that he would go mad and bring dishonor by killing those he had sworn to protect

[@eddiemidnite]

"Where are you? I have to find you. I've been trying to reach you concerning your vehicle's extended warranty."

[@brendandax]

That morgue scene scared the bejaysus out of me as a kid

[@dunringill1747]

This episode serves as a great advertisement for anyone suspecting they suffer from sleep apnea to get medically checked. RIP Jeri Taylor

[@Zikar]

To answer your question, all the shots of the enterprise are the ones used in the original, they used the same footage. Those models REALLY hold up.

[@TheElderBlotch]

Night Terrors is probably TNG's scariest episode, if I'd seen the morgue scene with Crusher as a kid I'd have been terrified. It'll definitely be in my upcoming Halloween marathon along with Catspaw from TOS.

[@DamienDrake2940]

I did see it as a kid, you are correct about being terrified.

[@EricTheSaylorman]

There's another one that terrified me as a kid, but they haven't gotten to it yet. I'll just give this hint: "I've been in this room before."

[@Drakoni23]

There is one effect in a later episode that really got to me. But that's a later phase.

[@CarnifexRex]

​@@EricTheSaylorman agreed. That one still gives me chills

[@noonebesides]

​​@@EricTheSaylorman We've all been here before.

[@Peaceforall20111]

Jeri Taylor died😢😢 She gave us so much without ever being on screen I work as a job where I facilitate the people that are the face of the company so I can relate to people like her

[@Billis75]

"Let's get going, you have work in the morning" continues to keep you in my headcanon as couple goals.

[@andreayeatman4671]

LOVE this episode. This one is high on my rewatch list, especially around Halloween time.

[@multilicus5773]

This episode marks the first appearence of John Vickery in an episode of "Star Trek"; he's mostly known for his DS9 work. Vickery is one of a handful of actors who appeared both in ST (and, in particular, DS9) and "Babylon 5"; more than that: he starred as more than one character in each franchise.

[@Vulcanerd]

Damn those flower headboards!

[@yerk55]

I always felt like Gates McFadden really conveyed terror in a truly convincing way in that morgue scene. Her performance and reaction gives me goosebumps more than just the bodies sitting up.

[@Tonyblack261]

"No one can achieve REM sleep! I think I'm losing my religion!"

[@CrankyGrandma]

😄

[@ScooterBond1970]

"It's the end of the world as we know it! It's time I had some time alone!"

[@MrDeathpilot]

♫ Oh no, you've said too much...♫

[@wolfofthewest8019]

What's the frequency, Kenneth? Because it's killing us!

[@mcgee227]

These guys are gonna love DS9

[@biffstrong1079]

Very well done and morgue scene gives me shivers as I think of it now. One Moon Circling as the Clue. Yup all working for me. Wow this one was not popular with the geeks or the fans. One of the ones I really liked.

[@Lumibear.]

This Ep’s OG effects didn’t stand up as well as they do since the digital remaster, to the point that it was actually pretty comical in places, so people panned it, my guess is the budget got too overstretched. They did as well as they could with what they had, though, hence scenes that just relied on acting and blocking, like the morgue, always did work great!

[@mjbull5156]

Data: "But that's not a proper representation of electron shells in atomic theory.:

[@EricTheSaylorman]

The fact that multiple extras (the helmsman, the paranoid kid, the mutineer in 10 forward) have speaking lines in this episode is a step up in budget.

[@silikon2]

There was also the very nice touch of the paranoid ensign being back in the D’s engineering just in the background warily watching Data and Geordi talk. Don’t know if that actually cost more money but it definitely gave the ep a rich feel.

[@Zikar]

I like it because it makes the crew feel as large as it should, rather than just our regulars and "extras" in the background. It's very helpful for Gordie as it reminds us that, yes, he's the head of an entire department of engineers.

[@kerry-j4m]

@@Zikar AGREED.

[@philly83]

The helmsman was one of the children in "and the children shall lead"

[@Nangleator22]

Cool!

[@jamesalexander5623]

Even I didn't know that!

[@MichaelJohnson-vi6eh]

Brian Toshi? He was on "Space Academy" too.

[@Jason_Lallathin]

Brian Tochi, who was also in Revenge of the nerds

[@philly83]

He was also in a couple Police Academy movies

[@silikon2]

The only downside was Deanna floating. Sirtis has said they knew it was goofy at the time but couldn’t think of a better way to do it. Probably just having her walking would have been better than having her floating though.

[@MrDeathpilot]

I always thought it looked ridiculous to see her being filmed butt-first.

[@shinyagumon7015]

What's this a crossover episode? My favourite detail about the morgue scene is that we don't see the stereotypical "Body sits up" moment but rather we zoom in on Crusher and zoom out and boom the bodies are all sitting up but still not moving. That makes it creepier imo.

[@silikon2]

It absolutely does make it creepier. And speaking of Beverly, I like that it was offscreen when she deduced that they were suffering from dream withdrawal. I loves me some Beverly but a scene of her investigating that could easily have derailed the ep into technobabble (even though this particularly ailment was on solid real life ground). The extensive and extremely ensemble horror scenes were much more interesting than Bevs hunched over a computer.

[@ryannelson1297]

It plays much more into why this is happening too. Hallucinations from sleep deprivation rarely feel like something literal happening and more feel like your brain is just fucking up when interpreting sensory data. You may not necessarily see something move to the position that you're hallucinating it in, or the hallucination may be the object moving and then being back in it's original position. It would be unlikely that the hallucination makes complete sequential and physical sense.

[@jeffeffa78]

Thank You for the J.T. card at front. 😢❤

[@kojiattwood]

"WHERE AAAARREEE YOUUUUUU!?!?!!?!"

[@legionaireb]

5:16 - It just occurred to me for the first time: THIS is how interplanetary communication works in Warhammer 40K.

[@hagbardceline7118]

It's kinda weird Data had to scroll through any elements since hydrogen is first on the periodic table.

[@gggooding]

Just so you guys know, this is the _only_ time Keiko and Miles have an issue with their marriage. Smooth sailing for them two lovebirds from here on out. No, I'm not lying, that gaslight *isn't* dimmer, you cray.

[@existentialgamer9206]

😂

[@BADDEC101]

9:29 Back in the day, the word detained was commonly used as a short way of saying "I had to take care of something important."

[@kereminde]

Politely "I had to go to the restroom" or even that there was something which happened between point A and point B.

[@Jim_in_TN]

Marina Sirtis has a pretty intense fear of heights. She hated being in the harness suspended above the studio floor filming the green cloud scenes. According to Wiki the episode was supposed to be a Troi episode but her dislike of the harness was too much. Could be why we had other great scenes with O’Brien, Gillespie, and other characters.

[@VonPatzy]

I feel like the fast paced production failed here. It gives little time to trash a concept and start again. I think they were married to the crappy harness shots because of how much planning and work they had sunk into the tech and effect it meant they didn’t want to make the more logical call to put her on the ground and rethink the visuals.

[@Vulcanerd]

Josh: That was a damn hook. Alex: Yeah, yeah totally (looking at phone the entire time) I AM the guy they make fun of in the closing song! 😂🤣❤

[@tideoftime]

6:32 -- Keiko is a civilian, not a member of SF, acting as a civilian botanist on the E-D like a number of civilians do in other roles/capacities. Though no exact numbers are ever given on the show or later movies about the ratio of SF vs civilians on the ship, it is guestimated that approx. 500-700 on board are SF while 300-500 (the remaining number to equal roughly 1000) are civilians, such as the family members of SF crew (like Keiko as Miles' wife, or the various children, etc) or civilian researchers, servers and others (such as Guinan, or various as-the-plot-needs archeologists, scientists and similar in certain episodes).

[@winkles2314]

The perfect Halloween double header with this and the next episode. RIP Jeri Taylor ❤️

[@ThomasReeves-s7u]

I remember not liking the next one, but as they're horror people they may.

[@mikeschmidt2503]

As a music teacher, I have several lessons on how music affects the emotional experience in movies and film. A great composer knows exactly how to invoke the desired emotion of the moment. In this case, the score was intended to increase the anxiety and uneasiness of the viewer, making them never feel like they can never just relax and be comfortable.

[@bustedsim]

Can you explain why I have an anathma to sad tinkle-y piano score in a ton of stuff and largely feel it's unearned in 95% of the cases it's used? (And yes, this does contribute to annoyances I feel toward newer productions of this IP)

[@mb2000]

1:28 Poor Brattain… first Starfleet misspells it’s name on the hull, then it’s crew kills each other!

[@matthewcollins4773]

That was the final straw that sent the captain into madness. "First officer Briggs is behind it! He had his men lie and tell me there was nothing wrong with the name!!"

[@Vulcanerd]

TNG started incorporating a lot of continuity compared to TOS, but the fact that it's still ultimately episodic means they can take these hard turns into completely different genres on a dime.

[@sodapop1850]

Great reaction as usual. Definitely an S for me. I feel like the writers of the movie "Event Horizon" were inspired by this episode.

[@kerry-j4m]

That film went where no man had gone before. LOL. Saw it at the cinema and was bugged out,didn't expect any sci-fi movie would go in that direction.

[@Puphandleslam]

Maybe 15 years sgo I cold turkey stopped taking pain meds and couldn't sleep at all for 11 days. My hanss were shaking, eyes vibrating, couldn't focus. I ended up leaving work and going to the hospital. They gave me a shot that knocked me out for 2 days.

[@testicularoxide5055]

Congrats on getting clean! One day at a time...🙏🙏🙏

[@Z1gguratVert1go]

I appreciate how with all the times TNG uses technology to fix everything, they never seemed able to develop "psychic shielding." It's good to have a weakness.

[@rusbell2981]

I was a young child when I saw this episode, it's one of my all time favorites. That scene with the bodies has stuck with me into my 30's lol it was terrifying as a kid.

[@noonebesides]

My sci-fi brain-area disliked this one as a kid when it aired. But Crusher in the morgue, Guinnin keeping a rifle behind the bar, those never left my brain. And I grew able to appreciate how good they did their haunted house. S tier. In my head canon, the vaugeness of the telepathic message was because it was limited to only the normal vocabulary of the receiver. If Geordi had telepathy, he would have heard it as clearly about the rift, and the substance needed. But for Troi and the Betazoid it was all "double", "eyes in the dark", "one moon" gibberish. Helps explain a bit Troi's inspiration upon seeing hydrogen in the list, as a subconscious understanding of the telepathy coming together for her.

[@RetroRobotRadio]

4:20 - The only thing wrong with the ship is all the lights half brightness. We can't seem to fix that.

[@impishmisconception7762]

I laugh every time I see the morgue scene. I know it's supposed to be scary but I can't help but think one of those actors in the morgue scene is thinking, "I went to Julliard to study acting and yet here I am sitting on a table with a bag over my head..." It just makes me laugh.

[@rocom]

Loled at bare/bear hands

[@charlottehammond8975]

The morgue scene freaked me the f out as a kid. So good. Edit: first comment. baller.

[@kingofjacks]

I alway confuse this episode with a future TNG horror episode (the one with the clicking aliens). Pretty cool that this episode aligned with the week of Halloween.

[@scrapperlock9437]

I like this episode.... I wouldn't give it S, but maybe A... It's a typical example of a TNG episode with a great premise, overall good execution, but the solution is a little hard to buy. You mentioned it -- They are looking through compounds and Troi realizes it's Hydrogen, and then they have it solved. It's OK, but was pretty contrived. Otherwise, it's great.

[@patsk8872]

I agree. But since they're super into horror, it makes sense they'd say S.

[@davidbourhenne8540]

Nice Halloween episode. Great timing fellas.

[@edgreene4394]

I saw Jeri Taylor at a Star Trek convention in Boston in the early '90's. She seemed young then... guess time is cruel and unforgiving.

[@utterlee]

The spaceship exteriors on the remaster are pretty much as they were originally. When they re-did everything for blu-ray the aim was to either just recomposite the original effects in high-definition, or if necessary recreate them digitally as close to possible as they were on original transmission. Very different from when they did TOS and took many more creative liberties with the HD effects.

[@airmaildolphin7013]

Thank God they abandoned the idea that Data is affected by the same sort of things that humans do. (like in the Naked Now).

[@CrankyGrandma]

Perhaps that was unique as in the virus affected his systems even though most don’t. Or it was a programming glitch that he corrected I suppose he does security upgrades of his OS at times.

[@andreayeatman4671]

Data doesn't need REM sleep so he wasn't affected by this. He does have some organic components so he could be affected by a virus.

[@victorjohnson7512]

"Space Madness" (ren & stimpy) This is a good Halloween episode.

[@paul_andrews]

12:13 Blazin' Bev clearly has experience dealing with unwanted hallucinations

[@MichaelJShaffer]

None of the shots of the ships are redone effects. They are the original filmed effects just in high definition. You've seen the Britain first in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan as the Reliant.

[@komradewirelesscaller6716]

One of my TNG fav's!

[@richardb6260]

Pretty good timing with this episode. Especially since it just happened to be the next one in line. One of the more horror themed episode for TNG being perfect for Halloween and one written by Jeri Taylor who recently passed.

[@ThePendragon1998]

Jeeze, imagine what the kids on the ship were going through.

[@matthewcollins4773]

It's always fun/disturbing to take the crisis of the week and think about how it's traumatising the children. 😂

[@ThePendragon1998]

@@matthewcollins4773 "What's wrong with you, little Timmy?" "My Daddy was vaporized in main engineering by the Borg today." "Ohhh...damn....tell you what, you can replicate any dessert you want tonight, buddy."

[@EvanG529]

Perfect upload schedule for this episode.

[@hawkmaster381]

The advanced aliens could speak English but had problems with saying the word “hydrogen “. 😂

[@headrockbeats]

Well, for all we know, they weren't speaking any language - it could just be how Troi is receiving their thoughts. In which case, if you think about Hydrogen, the whole "one moon circling its twin in the dark" is a very good verbal representation of the thought of Hydrogen.

[@hawkmaster381]

@ Whatever lets you sleep at night I suppose.

[@shanepye7078]

I remember when this aired and the morgue scene disturbed the hell out of me as a child.

[@tonyadler1319]

For the most part, the effects weren't redone, just recomposited. These are the same effects just scanned and compiled at a high resolution. Edit...I forgot to say, it's great that you had a "horror" episode to react to right before Halloween. You couldn't have timed it better!

[@kingdave31]

5:43 I didn't know John Mulaney was on Star Trek!

[@redmatter]

It’s such a wonderful coincidence that this episode aligned with this week; it’s a great Halloween episode. At the time all those gruesome folks on the Brittain bridge and of course that morgue scene caused a lot of water-cooler talk. In some ways this episode captures the feel of one of my favorite TOS episodes… The Man Trap, returning to the shows Twilight Zone-esque vibe. This episode was popular enough that it caused the TNG writers room to occasionally mix in some cosmic horror and metaphysical elements this point forward.

[@davewilliams1157]

Mirina Sirtis once remarked that she hated this episode because her butt had so much screen time!!😂😂

[@kereminde]

I think the knock on the door was because Picard wasn't answering the chime right before. Those last two were real, in other words, but he had already had auditory hallucinations (maybe) about the door chime.

[@scottjo63]

Probably the biggest question I have, security. Everyone seem affected by this phenomenon, except security. Troi calls for security. A few moments later, there they are, no problem.

[@paul_andrews]

Security personnel have no dreams lol

[@julianozaur444]

6:24 the man, The myth, the CHIEF

[@bradbarter8314]

This episode has a TOS connection with one of the guest starring extras. The Asian Ensign Lind was one of the children who with the help of the evil alien Gorgan had their parents kill themselves or each other from the episode "And the Children Shall Lead."

[@damiadwalker8464]

This little b plot of your own you got going in the background is priceless 😂

[@solidshake12]

Timed this episode well for Halloween. 😎

[@ronaldjeffrey8712]

Worf was obviously in the rest room... according to the schematics there's only one. It takes a while to get back.

[@ShamrockParticle]

Mind my silly jokes, season 4 is really beginning to pick up after the first few post-Borg episodes and I do love this story. It's a proper way to take ideas from "The Nked Time" and do something effectively original. 1:04 "that's the Brittain all right. But our ship is 90 years better so ha-ha." (Captain Riker T. Nelson.) Great way to stretch the budget by having 24th century innards in a 23rd century vessel. "Phasers and knives and bare hands and stuffed plushie dollies!" 10:54 should have been vines in with the snakes. The sickbay scene was the best moment. Glad they only had 34 people and not 340. REM... some say "Shiny Happy People" puts people to sleep... If Troi wasn't on board, the Enterprise crew would succumb to space madness. The Worf scene was duly frightening... Now add in Batman 66 logic as to how they deduce a representation of a hydrogen atom that is a representation of the solution. And yet it's genuinely brilliant as not all species communicate the same way. Mutiny! Jerry! Jerry!! JERRY!!! I mean, Guinan Guinan Guinan!!! The gun design looks like it was inspired by a Doctor Who episode from 1987! Great music for most of this story, season 4 has some of the best. Only the howling choral bit at the end comes across as pretentious. Yeah, this is an easy A if not S-tier. It all comes together rather nicely...

[@jowbloe3673]

22:54 - My previous comment about earphones returns. With only one you are missing things. You can always yell or use your whiteboards (or pause or something else) to communicate.

[@targetaudience]

Use the whiteboards lmao The headphones are on mono so they both get all of the audio.

[@JMUDoc]

The score is such a big part of this episode that it might as well be a character itself. And yes, it was Ron Jones. (Science was utterly scuffed, though - no _chemical_ reaction can match matter-antimatter, gram-for-gram, so the absolute best they could have done was colliding each other's warp cores, or something.)

[@paul_andrews]

Perhaps the aliens had anti-hydrogen

[@JMUDoc]

@@paul_andrews The Enterprise had anti-matter of its own.

[@michaelconnor1542]

Crusher and Troi are the one's who rang after Picard decided to ignore the chimes. They knocked because he was not answering.

[@MrDeathpilot]

17:07 Guinan shoots into the ceiling and no chickens fall. 🤔

[@jmwild1]

I love this one! Well timed reaction also. This one was genuinely terrifying when I saw it as a wee lad.

[@patsk8872]

People hyper-focus on the Troi floating scene. I don't quite so much, and would give this an A overall. While I'm not a superfan of horror like you guys, I think it did most things right.

[@allendean9807]

After this episode, you should follow up with the classic Ren and Stimpy; Space Madness!!!!

[@randallwong7196]

( Looks for reason why Worf was late for the conference ) "Where are you?"

[@jcarm185]

Warf is Chief of security so consider the scenario playing out on the ship and it should not be hard to imagine why he might have been detained by some crew situation.

[@RG-zv7tb]

Alex's premature "S"😆

[@scythemouse]

19:26 Now that's interesting. An alternate take of the alien ship?

[@huskerchuck9212]

126 first year patrons! Sounds VERY promising for a Star Trek Continues celebration!

[@targetaudience]

Did you count them as they scrolled!?!?

[@huskerchuck9212]

@@targetaudience yes

[@lucasvincent2875]

The monitors say i go into REM , but i have no memory of any vision during sleep my whole life. I've met one other like me. Used to worry, don't anymore

[@jamesalexander5623]

I have complex vivid Dreams but only in half-waking states! .... I don't recall R.E.M. Dreams!

[@connorwatson6766]

The spooky score starts as soon as the episode does and never lets up. Sets the atmosphere for the episode. And the morgue scene? Creeped me out at 15.

[@lawrencewestby9229]

Of course Guinan has a BFG behind her bar. 🙂

[@VulcanDeathGrip44]

I just realized the similarities between this episode and Event Horizon.

[@RubesGoodBrainCoffee]

My memory of this episode from the season recap issue of Starlog: One of the behind-the-scenes people said that unfortunately, whenever you have to depict someone as flying, it looks like what it really is -- i.e., not too good.

[@Vulcanerd]

RIP Jeri Taylor 🖖❤

[@DamienDrake2940]

Horror isn't something Star Trek does very often. I can only think of 2 or 3 episodes in the whole franchise that could be called horror.

[@LukeWarm05]

Takashi is driving the Enterprise! Lambda Lambda Lambda forever!

[@ryannelson1297]

This is one of those episodes that I'm sad you guys didn't see as children. Ironically, it has a reputation for causing nightmares.

[@pauls3604]

Star Trek has many horror elements. It isn’t always executed the best, but very much in lines with the Twilight Zone, Alfred Hitchcock films, or even the first 2 terminator films.

[@TheStarTrekApologist]

I am working on a video that catalogs every Padd. The ones used in the morge is new. I nicknamed it the Galaxy Padd since it was first seen in Galaxy Child.

[@Wolf_Dominic]

I gotta say, I’ve only ever seen this episode once, and it’s always stuck with me. I just love the creepy atmosphere. Also, I get it, that scene with Troi is a little silly, but honestly, the idea that it would completely ruin the episode for some people, is just plain silly.

[@racookster]

Re: The Post-Credits Bit - I slam into REM the instant I fall asleep, but I've had two sleep studies that confirmed I have what they call an "REM behavior disorder." I also sleepwalk and suffer night terrors. Pretty bad. Women don't take it well when a guy wakes up screaming.

[@pauld6967]

The Alex subplot of Target Audience is so tempting for me to make a particular comment,...BUT....I can't because it would be a major spoiler for the guys. Long-time Trekkers probably know what I am thinking. Shhh!