Ok so I watched this video a 100 times..😂😂 I found one up here in Canada and bought it. It accepts and cycles factory 45 colt no problem. I shot some 454 Casual factory loads and holy mother of pearl what a hammer. My shoulder cries every time I pull it out. I just say "suck it up princess" lol. After the range I come home, get in the tub carefully, out liquid heat on my shoulder and 72 hours later I feel better. My rotator cuff injury makes a difficult range session but the smile makes it better. I'm going to hunt deer with 45 colt this coming fall. I'll also go moose hunting with the Casull bullets. Thks TS
@mazparts007completeautospa2 Жыл бұрын
I'm stunned that people can shoot it in a handgun when it appears to beat up the user in a rifle...
@kipbrown21782 жыл бұрын
It’s funny that this video came out now. I have the same exact gun and just two days ago I took it to the range and I was shooting HSM 325 grain bear loads. The two gentlemen next to me wanted to know what I was shooting and Why flame was coming out the barrel after each shot. I let them shoot it and they both said never again. LOL
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Haha! This gun is definitely not for everyone, especially if it's stuffed with "bear" loads😄
@exothermal.sprocket2 жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite I'm guessing one could probably do better than a lot of "revolver" factory loads. Develop some stuff with longer burn rate powders that perhaps reach lower max pressure but burn longer, and achieve similar velocity without the sharp recoil peak. It's a theory.
@richardlahan7068 Жыл бұрын
Just think that this cartridge was developed for a handgun. I want one!
@kevin.keen.socialmedia Жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite and Kip: In Alaska, the .454 Casull is used in handgun revolvers as a brown bear deterrent. I'll take the Rossi R92 any day over a Ruger Redhawk for this purpose. Living in Canada, the handgun revolver was never an option, the only choice being a long gun---at the lower end being a .45-70 Government lever rifle or 30-06 (200 gr) semi-automatic rifle.
@uclajd Жыл бұрын
Ha, they should try my Ruger #3 45-70 with 500gr hot handloads that approach 458 Win Mag power. Which I haven't shot in like 30 years.
@diversify2103 ай бұрын
This is actually the only Rossi firearm I own. I was adamantly against Rossi lever guns, but I was so intrigued by the 454 chamber that I had to get one. I have to say I have been thoroughly impressed by it. A bit of a disclaimer though. I sent mine out to a gunsmith to have the action tuned and the any kinks worked out before I ever even put a round through it. Its a dream of mine to have a Marlin 1894 chambered in 454. Come on Ruger make my dreams come true
@fredericosala7933Ай бұрын
I Hope so
@hardball1072 жыл бұрын
I have owned a M92 in 454 for 10 years and love it. It has accounted for a half dozen deer at various ranges shooting hand loaded 250gr Hornady XTP pushed by a charge of IMR 4227. Yes, it is downloaded quite a bit but with the 20" barrel those XTP's almost make 1700fps, never had a whitetail take more than 3 steps after being hit. My favorite load is a 200gr Lee RN/FP bullet I cast myself and powder coat pushed by 10gr of Unique or CFE Pistol for about 1200 fps, light recoil and just a ball to shoot, cheap too. $10/100 to load and accurate out to 50 yards for chasing cans. As for quality I have both the 454 and it's little brother in 38/357, fit and finish is excellent and accuracy is spot on, no complaints from me.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Great comment! It's always good to hear and affirming testimony about Rossi quality.
@raytribble80752 жыл бұрын
I have had mine for several years. I reload with Hornady 300 grain XTP and taken 4 white tail doe and 1 white tail buck, 10 plus hogs and a dozen plus axis doe with mine here in Texas. I used it back in my home state of Wyoming to take one cow elk. As for the 45 Colt, I have had “fair” luck with the Hornady Flex Tip leaving the 45 Colt cases full length. I did smooth out the side gate as mine was a little sharp, install a saddle ring, Mag tube spring and feeder. Removed the rear sight and installed a scout base with the Vortex 2-7x32mm scout scope. I miss shooting her with open sights, but my aging eyes like the scope and taking accurate shots out to 200 yards is more than doable. Great video!
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Great comment! Thanks! I appreciate the idea about the flex tip bullets.
@ferengiprofiteer91452 жыл бұрын
Never hunted exotics or elk but I've far exceeded your results on white tail bucks, does, and hogs with my 45 year old Marlin 30-30 with a 6 power scope. Longest one shot kills were 197yds on an 8 point and 254yds on a 200lb plus boar. I'm not bragging about the gun. I'll just take luck over skill any day.🤠👍
@raytribble80752 жыл бұрын
@@ferengiprofiteer9145 : congratulations on your 30-30 harvest! That is some good shooting sir! I wish we could attach pictures, I build my own custom bolt guns and flintlocks. I gave my brother in law a few over the years and he gave me a Winchester Model 94AE centennial carbine in 30-30 about 15 years ago. I hunted the Wind Rivers in Wyoming with it for an entire elk season. I could not find a bull, but I took a cow elk with her at 224 yards with a 160 grain factory loaded Hornady Leverevolution round and she dropped right where I hit her. I need to take that old gal back out. That cow was the only big game animal I have taken with it. The guy who was with me could not believe you could take an elk at that range with a 30-30. I to will take as much luck as i can… lol. I still smile about that hunt. Keep yours running and good luck!
@ferengiprofiteer91452 жыл бұрын
@@raytribble8075 😉👍 (like my whiffs at golf balls, I only talk about my 2 birdies)
@raytribble80752 жыл бұрын
@@ferengiprofiteer9145 I hear you brother… The only thing I hit golf balls with is high speed projectiles… good for honing my aging eyes
@user-wd4ge2zh2c10 ай бұрын
Well that was kind of a boneheaded move lol. And having the humility to stand there and admit to that mistake in a world of KZbin expert who can never be wrong was a refreshing change. Thank you for your honesty. It is much appreciated.
@TargetSuite10 ай бұрын
👍👍 Thanks for watching!
@BradYaeger2 жыл бұрын
I own semi-auto's , bolt action and lever rifles and I prefer the levers over all. The are just so fun and comfortable to carry and I like the safety aspects of being able to drop the hammer if you decide not to fire that round.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
I like your approach to firearms. Folks really miss out if they can't enjoy all types!
@theamazingyoutubewatchergu6838 Жыл бұрын
Another knock off well you know who.
@techfixr2012 Жыл бұрын
Back in '01, I got a Rossi m92 on a job at TVA, I went to a shop in Memphis and bought 5 toys. One was a Rossi M92 in .45 Colt. I got some 300 gr. Buffalo Bore +p. Holy High Hell! In a 5 and a half pound rifle that black and blue me halfway to my waist from the bench in only 10 rounds. That gun was brutal with the narrow steel buttplate they had back on the 00`s. I still loved it! I am in the market for a 1879 in .500 Smith!
@Rebadog12 жыл бұрын
I have had a Rossi .454 casull for several years. The Magtech 280 gr. FMC-Flat are a great round for hogs. With proper shot placement they don't get up after one round. The Hornady 300 gr. XTP is a great round also and it has some great expansion out of the rifle or pistol. Everyone that has shot the Rossi .454 casull is amazed at the recoil. I enjoyed the video. You don't see very many on the Rossi .454.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
454 Casull recoil in a carbine is stout for sure!
@user-jx7dg7ci9g8 ай бұрын
Good comment. A pleasure to read legible,easy to read text ! Good use of English language,syntax,spelling!
@firstjohn31237 ай бұрын
@@TargetSuiteI must be immune. It feels just slightly more than a 30-30 to me...I like mine with 360gr hardcast.
@spudthegreaterusa83867 ай бұрын
I have the Rossi. 357 stainless in 20" myself. Thinking about taking it to Texas where my Son lives and doing some hog hunting. I have just purchased some underwood 180grain black cherry hard cast flat nose, also have Black Talon 180grain and of course some standard Fiocci 158 grain fully jacketed hollow points to try out. Not sure which would be the best, but im most curious regarding the black talons and what they end up doing to the hog. Im thinking those underwood hard cast will just penetrate completely through and not certain if the energy will really transfer to the wound cavity like the expanding hollow point Talons . Any thoughts?
@firstjohn31237 ай бұрын
@@spudthegreaterusa8386 @spudthegreaterusa8386 The Black Cherry hard cast is flat nose & there's a tremendous energy transfer. Sometimes they'll hit & tumble (upset) inside the animal ...😖 ouch. Probably not as good as the softer alloys on small (
@ravenreader47722 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I have a Rossi 92 .454 that has cycled every 45 Colt I've tried. In fact it was my go to rifle for Cowboy Action Shooting for 3 or 4 yrs when I first started going to competitions.
@supersami77482 жыл бұрын
That was my first question before I watched the vid, can I shoot my .45 Colt in it as I do in my .454 revolver.
@curt36692 жыл бұрын
I own both the Rossi 454 & the 45C. I also own a Ruger SRH that shoots both. I never considered putting a 45c in the 454 because I like my 454, and I’m not an idiot, I’m an Armorer and I understand why I shouldn’t. The Ruger reminds me of this after I shoot 45C and clean it thereafter. My hyper-performance motorcycle or BMW will both “run” on 87 octane, but again… I’ll wait to try the 45C in my 454 after the zombies come and it’s my only option left…
@454Casul Жыл бұрын
Thats interesting, I cannot get my Rossi to cycle with 45 colt loaded with the same 240 grain bullet. It will chamber, but not cycle, due to the different length of the brass.
@gregewing3916 Жыл бұрын
I have been thinking about getting one of those to use probably exclusively with 45 Colt. I like the configuration better than their actual 45 Colt guns. The possibility of giving my chamber a good cleaning and having something that doesn't lag all of that far behind a 4570 would be interesting also
@hutehund95192 жыл бұрын
Holy smokes that was fun! And with recoil approaching a 300 win mag, I'll bet it was more fun to watch than it was to shoot :) That is one impressive rifle and round. It'd make a terrific saddle gun in dangerous game country.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
It was a hoot to make, Snappy recoil notwithstanding 😉
@dilbertbob54202 жыл бұрын
I have been looking for this gun for over two and a half years. Rossi has assured me that they are still in production. Guess I'll keep looking. Great video George!
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Yes they are in production. Larry just bought this gun fairly recently from a local gun store. Good luck on your hunt. If I find two I will let you know😉
@JMGeranimo2 жыл бұрын
I've been looking as well. GB inflated prices are crazy.
@rundmm Жыл бұрын
@@JMGeranimo Yes they are. I have also been looking for some time.
@AlanRoehrich9651 Жыл бұрын
I got the same answer from Rossi. I am on more than a dozen "notify me when back in stock" lists, have been for over a year. Not a single notification.
@JMGeranimo Жыл бұрын
They have many on gb now. Unfortunately I have purchased a few guns recently and am spent lol
@garyK.45ACP2 жыл бұрын
The temptation is always to compare it to the .45-70, but the .45-70 was designed for 405 gr. and 500 gr. bullets. Neither of which would work through the 1892 action. There is a better comparison...the .45-90. The .45-90 was designed as an "express cartridge" to offer higher velocity for (relatively) longer range hunting. It was designed to fire a 300 gr. bullet with 90 grains of blackpowder in the much larger and heavier Model 1886 rifle. The factory loads at the time produced 1300 fps. with the 300 gr. bullet. Modern powders can increase that to 1600 fps in original Model 1886 rifles with smokeless rated barrels (and higher in modern made 1886 reproductions) So...long story short...what you have there is a .45-90, with modern loads, in a Model 1892 action. And that ain't bad! I find recoil to be life affirming. 😜
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Great commented as always! I will still probably make a video comparing it to the 45-70. Just to let folks know it's a great cartridge but not in the same league! And I couldn't agree more, because my life was affirmed quite a bit over the last couple of days😄
@ronlafitte68642 жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite I certainly do not dislike recoil! And I’m a 45/70 man anyhow.
@garyK.45ACP2 жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite The .45-70 is a better known commodity to compare to. Overall, it is probably not a fair comparison, an old 1886 to a new 1892, because original Model 1892s couldn't handle the pressures of the .454 Casull, and modern 1886s (like the ones from Miroku) can outperform anything that fits through the 1892 action. There being no free lunch, it does this at the cost of rifle weight, gobs of powder and recoil. But it is interesting that modern materials and propellents allow us to do things with much smaller "packages" than they could 100 years ago. And if the .45-90 was adequate for any game in North America back then...the .454 Casull could meet that standard now.
@wilmamcdermott30652 жыл бұрын
Iam shooting 500 gain in my 4590 at 1900 fps
@garyK.45ACP2 жыл бұрын
@@wilmamcdermott3065 Which loading manual did you get that recipe from? What are the particulars? Powder charge, specific bullet and the OAL of the cartridge? Which rifle are you firing that in?
@MRR06825 Жыл бұрын
I have bears in my area. Ordered one of these through Bass Pro Shops two years ago. Took three months for it to come in. .45 Colt cycles poorly, but with some fidgeting can get it to work. .454 rounds are perfect. Kicks like a mule, but love the power!
@TargetSuite Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Congrats!
@70selvisfan2 жыл бұрын
I always thought that the .454 having that magazine tube loading feature was that the cartridge was too big for the loading gate. Glad to see that you can, in fact, load them the "old fashioned way". I commented on a .357 Rossi video that a certain Buffalo Bore 180 grain .357 magnum bullet would make a good hog stopper. I think I've found one that would remove any doubt!!! If I can find one and afford the ammo! LOL Great fun, as always. Thanks for the content, George!
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
As always, thank you for your comment and thank you for watching!
@raymondbuie52922 жыл бұрын
Great video George ! Love the lever actions! Of course the 454 Casull is a very awesome cartridge! I’m not sure why it was not chambered in the 1895 Marlin as I believe it would have been quite at home there. I think sometimes it’s thought of as a wildcat yet or even ten or fifteen years ago when it should have been looked upon more in the light of cutting edge for it’s time. Dick Casull was quite a legendary pioneer of experimentation! Again very enjoyable!
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment! I'm not sure the 336/1895 action is strong enough for the 65,000 PSI 454 casull. But if it is, that would be a fantastic package especially in a little longer Barrel.
@raymondbuie52922 жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite Yes I thought about that and not having any manuals with me at work I couldn’t do any checking at the time. However I know probably not up to that PSI but the 450 Marlin had some pretty powerful top end loads.
@ActionEHamshraershV Жыл бұрын
Buck Elliot and others did 454 Levergun tests back in the 80's. They tried Win 1894 BB, Marlin 336 actions, etc and the Marlin failed in 20 rounds, wouldn't lock up safely. Paco Kelly has good write ups on 45 Colt in Leverguns, where he loads 45 Colt in Win 1892 to 50,000psi. Big Horn Armory also made a beefed-up, hybrid 1886/1892 action that is incredibly robust and chambered in 454, 460, and 500S&W
@raymondbuie5292 Жыл бұрын
Ok, very good, I’ve read a fair amount of Paco’s work. That is very interesting about the prior work. However, one must live with the constraints of the machine. Do you have any reference to article on the loads used to disable the Marlin or the work by Buck Elliot
@ActionEHamshraershV Жыл бұрын
@@raymondbuie5292 These test writings are actually somewhat tough to find, but you can still find forum posts here and there quoting their work. Try levergunscommunity and use the search feature. Buck Elliot was a psuedonym, the actual gentleman passed away a few years ago. He did end up building a 454 levergun from scratch from a modified 1886 action sometime around 2007-2009.
@barryc91152 жыл бұрын
I’ve been looking for one of those for years. I absolutely love the 454.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
They were just re-released a year or so ago. Maybe one will show up.
@slipit92 жыл бұрын
The short had me waiting all day yesterday. Worked graveyard last night and I appreciate it’s after I’m off work. Almost like you knew! Beautiful rifle and cartridge.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Well I know what it's like to get off a graveyard. I worked hundreds of them. Wish they had KZbin Back Then😄 Thanks for watching and thank you for the comment!
@Leverguns502 жыл бұрын
I think the recoil of those pistol calibers is somewhat deceptive, because my little 5 pound Rossi 92 and 44 magnum with a 300 grain bullet is very brutal, even compared to that sharp sweater 530 grain bullet at 2140 feet a second which produces 78 foot pounds. It has a lot sharper recoil pulse
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
You are right on about the duration of the recoil. These light guns are Snappy to say the least. And that is what makes it uncomfortable. By the way I sure have enjoyed your content on that Sharps. But seeing you get pushed around makes me want to come join the fight😄
@jeffpittman87252 жыл бұрын
Maybe some collaboration?
@awats727522 жыл бұрын
You are correct about that shot a 44mag in a lever gun it kicked much more than I was expecting.
@pewpewTN2 жыл бұрын
@@awats72752 We have a Marlin & a Henry single shot in .44 Mag. The recoil isn't bad at all.
@timhallas42752 жыл бұрын
I shoot 180 grain 44 mag out of a 4lb .410 single shot shotgun,, and the recoil is softer than a .410 slug round. The .444 Marlins, on the other hand, would like to crack shoulder bones.
@sisleymichael2 жыл бұрын
People that have never messed around with, hunted with lever guns, do not know what they are missing. I have 22LR, 357mag, 44mag, and 30-30 lever guns. Never had a 454, but open to new experiences for sure. I find myself using the 44mag the most. I harvest hogs from the ranch for the deep freeze regularly. That 44mag does what it is supposed to do, no drama, bang flop.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Don't tell anyone, but the 44 mag is my favorite as well.
@concernedaussie13302 жыл бұрын
Got one & love it. One of the most underrated medium - big game hunting rifle / cartridge packages around! Hand loading 250gr hard cast lead rnfp into the 45 colt will function flawlessly. Hammers everything it hits. I did a diy action slick up job & works just fine . To be honest I have found full power loads completely not necessary & just put unnecessary recoil on the rifle it’s self. 250 - 300 gr hard cast @ 44 magnum pressure levels are more then adequate . Nothing stop’s those hard cast & the .452 diameter bullets definitely do the job .
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
I think I'm with you. If I had one of these for myself I would rarely shoot high energy rounds. That 300 grain hardcast from Buffalo Bore will work Magic on any animal I would ever see . . . times two😉 But a lighter load will do the trick on our Southern deer and Hogs for sure. Thanks for watching!
@concernedaussie13302 жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite mate I have found no jacketed 300gr bullets hold together . They still kill amazingly, but the bullets technically fail. I bought 400 of those xtp's & they work like varmint bullets. Once I shoot off those xtp's I'll just use hard cast. I've down loaded with 11grs of trailboss & 250gr hard cast rnfp , for 1100 fps And you will not recover them. They just truck on through everything & whack the trees in the background. 2 x 45 cal holes through & through & pump fat squirts of blood. That load is barely subsonic & basically no recoil. I think those same 250gr , 270 or even 300gr hard cast at 1550 - 1650 fps will work fantastic with mild recoil. I'm so confident in there ability that I'll do a top end water buffalo, donkey & pig hunt & only take the Rossi 454 & hard cast. Awesome video mate & I subbed btw.
@hanc372 жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite I remember my dad telling me back in the 70s to always use the heaviest bullets you can find for whatever caliber you are hunting with. Those old timers knew what they were doing... I never got the chance to ask him, but I bet that was advice passed down generations.
@wesleysale10522 жыл бұрын
A great looking gun. Been thinking for a long time now and a model 92 is about all I need as a house gun. Here's hoping I get lucky next year and can find a Rossi like this. Good power at short range with .45 Colt and can switch to the high power stuff if needed for longer ranges(Elmer Keith said a good reason for all the power of .41 and .44 was for use by police at a roadblock - one well placed hit in the engine and a car wasn't going far).
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment Wesley. The 45 Colt or the 454 Casull have more than enough power for "work around the home".
@zackdushkin18572 жыл бұрын
Picked up a r92 44. Mag 16inch and it's great! Was rough to start but after 50rds or so it's slick and spot on. Love a good thumper!
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on your 44 levergun!
@Dayattherange2 жыл бұрын
Since you posted the short I have been waiting for this video let me grab my coffee and I will be right back LOL I don't want to miss one second of it.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
I sure hope you're not disappointed😉
@Dayattherange2 жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite Very informative AND ENTERTAINING nice job. The way those water jugs exploded/disintegrated WOW it was like you were standing 1 foot away from you are right THAT 454 is a beast. Did any of the rounds put a dent in the steel? This must be an improved version as a friend of mine has one or maybe had I think he sold it because it had a steel butt plate at least this one has a rubber one. One thing to think about George that 454 in a shorter case has the same saami spec as a 460Magnum 😮😮
@ronlafitte68642 жыл бұрын
They had a blued Rossi in 44 Magnum in the store nearby, but it’s a long shot from 44 Mag to 454 Casull. That was a great video! I certainly wouldn’t mind having one in my collection!! Thank you for a wonderful explanation of this rifle!
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome. Thanks for watching and thank you for your comment!
@polymath51192 жыл бұрын
For a pistol caliber carbine to share rounds with a handgun, I'd rather have that 44 mag you saw in the store Ron.
@maximilianmustermann57632 жыл бұрын
@@polymath5119 The .44 mag, too, gains a lot of speed with a 16" barrel compared to a revolver. It's not a bad cartridge from a lever gun!
@geob03242 жыл бұрын
Brings to mind some advice I got when I first started shooting. "Just because you can doesn't mean you should." That said, a 300 gr. .44 mag at can make for venison in the pot.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Haha! There is real truth in that!
@brianneeley94556 күн бұрын
This channel and Ky Ballistics are the best! I Have 454 Casull in the Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan revolver. Stupid power is so spot on. At full power its not that far below a 45-70, rifle round.👍
@TheSimpleLifeWisconsin9 ай бұрын
I was just looking at some ballistic info for the 444 Marlin and the muzzle velocity for the Hornady 265 gr. FTX is 2325 FPS compared to 2122 FPS in the ammo you tested. That’s pretty interesting and impressive!
@carlking85302 жыл бұрын
The nice thing about the mag tube is the ease of unloading the rounds from the tube without having to cycle the rounds through the action one by one.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Yes. That's a big plus!
@bobjohnson1633 Жыл бұрын
The other is that it loads faster
@richardelliott95112 жыл бұрын
God bless Larry for making this possible!
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Ayyyymen!
@PatRMG2 жыл бұрын
I had a chance at one a while back. Should have gotten it!
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
It's a great package! If I find two, I'll let you know 😉
@foxtrap88262 жыл бұрын
I've owned two Rossi's ,and that was enough for me. Admittendly, they came from the firm before the current owners (Taurus?)bought it. But both were junk, and it soured me on all Rossi's. But the .454 in and of itself really isn't as scary as it's portrayed out to be. Frankly, it hinges on the design of the gun, and your body proportions, as well as your shooting posture. My .454 Taurus Raging Bull is a handful, but not really at all punishing. My Ruger Super Blackhawk, (Bisley) is great fun for .45 Colt, but not fun at all with .454 Casul. The trigger guard will peel the skin off your first knuckles. You have to wear shooting gloves! But if I could suggest a simple improvement for this new Rossi lever action, it would be to add a larger trigger loop. The one as shipped is way too small for gloved hand, especially in cold weather.
@maximilianmustermann57632 жыл бұрын
The current owner and manufacturer of all Rossi (and Taurus) guns is CBC. They're this large international company that also owns Magtech and S&B. From what I've heard, the quality control of Rossi has become significantly better since CBC makes them (since 2015/16). I never owned a pre-CBC Rossi, but I own a .357 mag R92 manufactured by CBC and it is absolutely fine for its price. It shoots really well, the trigger is good and it functions nicely. Of course it's not as luxurious as a Winchester or Marlin, but it was half the price, so that's absolutely okay. My only complaint would be the loading gate which is extremely stiff, so it's not fun to load. I'll have to do something about it at some point.
@anthonysurrency7134 Жыл бұрын
What was wrong with them?
@dwayneelizondomountaindewh146511 ай бұрын
How much can go wrong, guys ?. Rossi would need to try hard to make this poorly after all these years, the ones I have seen are not junk, you keep em. It's not a Winchester, maybe.
@steveelder53068 ай бұрын
my one year old .44 mag stainless is great! I compared it to my brothers .38/40 go Winchester 92 and its really decent except for the Brazilian hardwood stock. it cycles smooth and it's tight.i expected to have to take it apart and smooth the parts like I have heard others do but it seemed pretty good from the start. I'm happy as heck I got it!@@dwayneelizondomountaindewh1465
@mxblyxky Жыл бұрын
The excellent "Rossi" arms factory in southern Brazil was bought by the factory in the same region, "Taurus". And it's surprising that they keep their tradition of quality in this brutal Caliber 454 Casull. Remembering that the south of Brazil, a region larger than Germany and Poland, is populated by descendants of Germans and Italians from northern Italy, Veneto, of strong Germanic origin.
@uclajd Жыл бұрын
The Lee Reloading Manual 2nd ed. has a bunch of subsonic data for the 454 using Trail Boss. Might be some fun rounds to shoot in that which feel like 45 Colt, but will cycle OK. Some others are pretty light supers, around 44 Magnum levels. A 240gr at 1200 wouldn't be too bad. Either way, probably want a Limbsaver on that thing.
@ChargerusPrime3 ай бұрын
If you're still looking for one, my local gun store here in Georgetown Texas has them for just under 1000. Guns Plus. Give em a look on their website or give em a call. They're a bunch of good folks, very knowledgeable.
@jonrolfson16862 жыл бұрын
Seeing the speed with which that light rifle backed into your shoulder emphasized the notion that .454 Casull is not unlike .45-70. Worst recoil bruise I ever got was from a full size 1886 with a notably curved ‘rifle’ style steel butt plate. Hope that the pad on that much lighter Rossi .454 protected your shoulder from the Rossi’s obvious hard quick punch.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
You really described it well it is a hard and quick punch. I have that 1886 with the curved steel butt plate. Standing up it's okay to shoot even with +P ammo. But shooting it from the bench . . . UGGGHHH!
@GoldenClays18 ай бұрын
I would not want to be on the Receiving end of that Buffalo Bore Round! Amazing Video as usual!
@Squishysforbreakfast2 жыл бұрын
454 casul is an intriguing cartridge for the lever rifles. Plenty of power with extra accuracy from the platform.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Yes sir. Well said!
@donlovell6708 Жыл бұрын
I used to own a Rossi 454. Shooting a Garrett Alaskan load will shake your soul and trying to keep ahold of the forearm from barrel whip is hard. 300+gr 45 Colt +P loads out of the Rossi 45 Colt I have now penetrate almost as much as the 454 loads did. Cheaper every time you shoot and still heavy enough recoil to get your attention.
@TargetSuite Жыл бұрын
You are spot on about the 45 Colt plus p. I wouldn't call the 454 Casull a gimmick, but it does shoot both 45 Colt plus P or otherwise and the much more powerful 454 round. Frankly, if it wasn't for KZbin I wouldn't have bought the one I did last week. You'll see that one on the channel here fairly soon.
@comiketiger2 жыл бұрын
Love this combo idea. This would make a great setup. I'd love to have one. Great video. God bless all here.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@sidvisious Жыл бұрын
I just bought that gun and while I haven't fired it yet. I cycled 10 454 Casull through it and then loaded 10 45 LC and cycled them through it just fine.
@TargetSuite Жыл бұрын
That's fantastic! I just bought one for myself last week and it also Cycles 45 Colt just fine. Video coming up soon! In fact, you can see it in the short I posted this evening.
@bryantitus66342 жыл бұрын
So based on those recoil numbers, the 240gr handloads are about dead even with a relatively lightweight or hotter loaded 30-06. The Buffalo Bore 325s are about dead even with a 7mm rem mag. Or factory loaded (anemic) 300gr sp 45-70 in a marlin 1895. All in all, very very impressive. I couldn't find one of these to save my life back when I bought my 16" rossi 44 mag carbine. I love that little 44 mag though. Not complaining a bit.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
It is quite impressive out of the carbon link barrel for sure. Thanks for your comment and thank you for watching!
@savageater572 жыл бұрын
Watching you shoot that rifle made me wince . I've been shooting a 30-06 for 50 years and that Rossi looks like it recoils more than my model 94.375 Winchster or my 45-70 Marlin .
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
With the Buffalo Bore ammo it does kick like a mule! Thanks for watching!
@doclees112 жыл бұрын
I've been seeking one of these for a while too. Hard to find and even harder at a reasonable price. This was a great demonstration on recoil. It cleared up a lot. It basically comes down to the obvious Newtonian 3rd law. But why would anyone buy a 454 and not expect to feel recoil? That would be like buying a Bugatti and expecting good gas mileage.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
You are right. Looking for a Super Magnum in a Superlight gun and not expecting Snappy recoil is unrealistic.
@georgezink82562 жыл бұрын
Recoils not bad in my big smith 460 , which handles 454 and 45 long colt , now I been reloading all calibers for close yards 50 years an know that ya get better powder burn in rifle, just want to say thanks to y’all for sharing your information
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@doclees11 Жыл бұрын
Hey if you happen to see this, I never saw these responses, I would love to see a sequential firing in this rifle of standard 45 colt vs ruger only vs 454 with the same grain bullet. Love to see both recoil and impact in slow motion. I'm still on the hunt for a reasonably priced 454 Rossi but sure not common.
@highxj Жыл бұрын
I just picked up a brand new manufactured Rossi R92 in 454 yesterday. Currently have an R92 Trapper in 45 Colt, and was hoping the 454 would cycle my 45 stuff. Today, I ran several of my 45 C handloads through the 454, all the way from 250 gr. cowboy style cast, to 275 gr cast with a LFN ogive, to 280 gr. WFN hard cast with a huge flat meplat at 1700 fps. ALL fed and functioned perfectly...I'm happy. Edit...interestingly, my model does not have the loading port in the mag tube. It's a conventional system as found on my 45 Colt model with no threaded in end cap.
@polymath51192 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing George. I've often wondered about the Casull in a 92. I'll stick with the 44 and 357 versions.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Those two cartridges definitely have more mainstream appeal. Thanks for watching and thank you for your comment!
@jeffstanfield507010 ай бұрын
Just picked up a brand new Rossi in 454 Casull. I absolutely Love it. Mine is different than the one you show. Mine does not have the screw in magazine tube it just has the standard loading tube from the Kings gate. I wonder when they changed them back from the design you show. Great video. I am loading Missouri Bullet company 300 grain hard cast RNFP.
@TargetSuite10 ай бұрын
I just bought one of the new Rossi 454s as well. I'm assuming between the build a couple of years ago and this one, they updated the design. And of course, they also eliminated the magazine loading feature.
@jeffstanfield507010 ай бұрын
I would love to see another video on your new 454 and the differences
@InGratitudeIam2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you did this, George. It would be interesting to compare the Buffalo Bore's offerings in .45 Colt and .454 Casull. If only Rossi made a run of these today but with a Limbsaver pad instead. Then again, I think I'd rather go with the heavier offering from BHA's Model 90A if money were no object. But money is an object, so I think I'll stick with my wimpy .45 Colt with those insane (but safe) loads from Buffalo Bore. But if Rossi were to make another batch... :)))
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea Tom! I just ordered two boxes. I've got to stop this bleeding of green😄😄
@moshkid16 Жыл бұрын
That thing flings shells right into the heavens, just like whatever gets hit with it!
@tomhowe30942 жыл бұрын
love it! also, thanks for showing yhe velocity changes for different length barrels on single action hand guns.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. And you are welcome!
@Cucurú-c9v15 күн бұрын
My daughter picked up a 16 in. version for a song and dance unfired. Within 100 rounds of .454 the stock cracked at the wrist. So I got her an American Black Walnut stock and a metal strap buttplate. Should see how great the gun looks now. So pretty you could kiss it. And that little tiny gun is the most powerful in its weight at under 6 lbs.
@jimb89048 ай бұрын
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@craigpennington12512 жыл бұрын
The 454 Casull is a monster. I have one and it performs amazingly well with what ammo I can find-which is extremely limited. Great round but unfortunately very expensive. And in pistol form, a Hand Cannon. Be prepared. Personally, I think this cartridge would do great in a 24" barrel.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Thanks craig. I don't have any plans to buy a 454 Casull revolver for just the reason you mentioned. My cost per round shot over the life of that revolver would be extreme to say the least😄
@craigpennington12512 жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite You are welcome.
@yeetyeet83652 жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite ammo cost is ammo cost I’m confused on what you shoot it out of. Same price.
@yeetyeet83652 жыл бұрын
Very thin barrell
@TonyYarusso Жыл бұрын
@@yeetyeet8365 He’s saying he wouldn’t shoot the revolver very much because it would be unpleasant, so the cost of the *gun* divided by number of rounds fired would be high, thus hard to justify the purchase.
@edwardcrawley598510 ай бұрын
I recall years ago reading an article on a couple Ruger # 3s chambered in the 454. If I recall correctly one was a wildcat round where the .454 was necked down to .22 cal. I found them very interesting.
@terryschiller26252 жыл бұрын
Hi George, that is one hard hitting thumper. And in more than one way! Hope you iced your shoulder down after shooting that. Ammo for that thing is crazy,and I thought my 357 mag ammo was high. The 454 sure makes short work of targets of opportunity.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Yes it is pretty hard-hitting. But it's not as bad as that Marlin trapper with plus P grizzly loads. That one was brutal.
@curtisolsen72732 жыл бұрын
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@garymcgarvey90992 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a R 92 this weekend in .44 mag 20” barrel and blue finish I have very few rounds through it less than 20 due to bad weather. With 240 gr bullets it is a little snappy but that is to be expected in a light rifle with a steel butt plate. The Rossi really impressed me with fit and action smoothness I went with Rossi for two reasons weight and price it was hands down lighter and cheaper than the competitors I have seen a lot of older videos of poor quality of fit and function but most 2 year old and newer said quality was better. The only thing I found of poor quality was the safety which is tiny and loosely fit and can hang up on bolt in both directions. I got this rifle as a light alternative to my bold rifles and will deal with recoil to carry less weight. Shawn
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment Shawn!
@ashmerch25582 жыл бұрын
These are going for $1,800 - $2,000 on gunbroker... INSANITY ! however... There's a few 20" barreled versions & 16.5" barreled versions in 44 magnum, that are much more affordable, but only about 70% as cool. Talk about a perfect heavily wooded brush rifle. Sub 7lbs loaded ~ 36" total length (16.5") ~ 39.5" (20") And will throw big bullets with ballistics far out performing ballistics on the box (in 44 mag). The 454 Casull will just compound that performance. 2000fps + with a 240gr+ bullet will be devastating in the woods on anything These are about 1lb - 1.5lb lighter than my much beloved Marlin Guide Gun in 45-70.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
That is insanity. And I blame our current system where certain "Elites" get their hands on these guns early and then resell them at a huge markup. Leaves us "Regular Folk" out in the cold.
@waynehajek63462 жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite You're right. And the same can be said for ammo as well. Finding just standard caliber hunting ammo on the shelves in local gun shops or even retail stores locally is extremely hard, yet you can find ALMOST find the classic hunting ammo in case lots from certain online resale "jobber" companies. Manufacturers need to re-think their marketing policies in the interest of the end users. Just my humble opinion.
@exothermal.sprocket2 жыл бұрын
Part of the cost of ammo (and the so-called component shortages) is the massive shipping of armaments and ammo to Ukraine. I can tell you right now, the mainstream media has lied to us about everything else, and they sure as poop aren't going to start telling anything resembling truth about Ukraine or shipping of weapons and ammo to Ukraine. When real actual domestic terrorist groups in the USA are getting AR's and ammo, guarding drag queen shows for children, and the common citizen has to spend almost $3 a pop for something like .300 Win Mag hunting ammo, I don't give a flying rip what most gun publications, gun channels, or gun people want to claim about our 24/7 ammo production and it supposedly going to "horders" and all that hogwash. I'm no fan of Putin, but Putin is dismantling globalism, the international political criminal syndicate. One of their biggest and most corrupt features was the Ukrainian seat. Basically everything our domestic fascist goons are doing is taking our manufacturing, our products, our blood, sweat, and labor and sending it all free of charge to our enemies. When will the average firearms owner in the USA start realizing this? The ammo manufacturers can claim they are trying to meet demand, all they want. The cabal has been pressuring all major manufacturers to "speak a narrative" or else. It's called fascism. If the ammo is military demand, it's anyone's guess where it's going after that.
@frankbrowning3282 жыл бұрын
Impressive power in a trim little rifle. The finish looks beautiful.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@paststeve12 жыл бұрын
Great video George! Been subbed since you had about 1,700 subs. I have thoroughly enjoyed your videos since that time and have also enjoyed watching your channel grow. Just a tip for you Brother: When I am shooting a high recoil force rifle in the warmer months while wearing just a Tee-shirt, I will grab an old tea-towel from the kitchen drawer and fold it and place it inside my shirt upon my right shoulder. IT DOES WONDERS!
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Haha! Great minds think alike. I've never put anything under my t-shirt but I have put a leather glove under my shirt in cool weather when shooting heavy recoiling guns.
@paststeve12 жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite When Mrs. Rev Taylor found out what I was doing with the towel, she said "Ok. But you're going to keep that one in your range bag and wash the sweat out of it when it stinks.". It's in my range bag right now. LOL
@user-mn5tg6vz1j6 ай бұрын
Thanks for this review! The hinky top-lever safety is enough to make a grown man cry!
@TargetSuite6 ай бұрын
I agree. Of all the safeties that have been added to lever guns that one is the one that causes me the most heartburn.
@scottydouglass18922 жыл бұрын
I don't know about Rossi from before the early 90's. I had a 62a with a octagon barrel and it was cool as all get out. My buddy owns that one now. I bought a 16 inch 357 92 right after you got yours. I love racing my buddies at the speed games with that against their mall ninja versions of ar's and ak's. I can smoke them by 19-20 seconds and still hit a clay pigeon at 100 yds. (If it is holding still). The sights are tough for me to get the little chunks, as the .38 loads are starting to wounder a bit at that distance, and my eyes are not 30 years old anymore.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! I'd love to watch you smoke your buddies with their fancy Mall ninja guns!
@scottydouglass18922 жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite After the shock factor is gone. The butt hurt starts.
@patrickcalhoun62842 жыл бұрын
i have had that same rifle of about 10 years or so and for 45 colt loads i use 255 gn semi wad cutters they cycle nicely and is easily my favorite gun i own. the cowboy loads from armscor work very well but i normally load my own
@chicowize2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I enjoyed the exploding water jugs. I own 2 r92’s one SS 38/357 & a blued 45 colt. I’m not too fond of the semi buckhorn sights but they are a pleasure to shoot. Thanks for sharing Target Suite.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate you watching my vids! You got some great guns there by the way!
@allenfontenot78322 жыл бұрын
My Old Boss in the Oilfield would call that a Snot Knocker. Hits so hard it Knocks the Snot out of whatever was unlucky enough to be in it’s way.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Thats an appropriate term😄😄
@chrisgabbert6582 жыл бұрын
Would you shoot it with out the recoil pad. 🤷♂️😁👍
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Once . . . for the right price😉
@carlosfabricioalf2 жыл бұрын
Off topic. As a Brazilian its so nice to see coments like this about our products, thank you very much. And just for a heads up. If you think its HARD TO FIND this gun in US.... I didnt even knew that Rossi have this gun and, more over, that produce guns in this caliber. I'm quite sure all Model R92 chambered in 454 Casull are EXPORT ONLY.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your off topic comment. Thanks!
@maximilianmustermann57632 жыл бұрын
Maybe even export to US only. The only Rossis I find in Germany are the R92 in .357 and .44, either 20" or 24" octagon barrel. That's it. I need to ask the importer if they can get the 16" barrel versions, but I'm afraid they're gonna say it will have a lead time of 24 months and also cost extra.
@seeratlasdtyria45842 жыл бұрын
I dunno, I've liked Rossi /Taurus since the Judge (I have a *good* one:), and a 92 in 357 which pretty much solves my truck rifle issues, I live on a ranch:) OTOH, I have a couple of 12 gauge's (pump, and semi-auto) that will throw down a lot more power than your 454 for a helluva lot less money, more versatile too i.e. birds, up to grizzlies....Seeing as you can buy 12 gauge slug shells for around 50 cents each, or a bit less, these days, I don't know exactly where the rossi casull is supposed to fit? Darned pretty gun though:) However, there's damned few things on the planet that a 400 to 500, hell even up to 690 grain slug out of scattergun, won't put to sleep in a damned hurry, of course you might be spending more 'quality' time with your local chiro:) (bout same recoil as a .375 H&H:) Oh, one last thing, with good sights, i'm good out to 125 yds or so, and if I'm careful, a ways beyond that. Excellent vid btw, liked and subscribed :)
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
No wise man is going to argue against the power and versatility of the 12 gauge shotgun. Not that I'm wise but I have lost that argument in the past already😄 Thanks for watching!
@muzzleblast8811 ай бұрын
Jeff quinn from gunblast had 100s of guns before he passed and handled thiusands of rifles and in a video on youtub dojng a tour of his man cave this rossi was one of his favorite guns
@glenngolter5603 Жыл бұрын
I had one until several years ago. It fed every .45 class Ic I ever put through it. I have 2 Rossi 92’s in .357, a 20” and a 24” octagon barrel, a 20” .44 mag, and a Marlin Guide Gun in 45-70, with the .454 between the .44 mag and the 45-70, I didn’t really see a need for it. I’ve been regretting selling it since then. Fun, and soft recoil compared to the 45-70 with the HSM bear loads with 430 grain +p loads , which the Marlin loves and shoots best with.
@johncunningham90162 жыл бұрын
Had one of these back in 2010. Kicked like a horse. Sold it, and got a 16" R92 in .357. More useful for me.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Yep you probably have a more useful firearm. This would not be one I take out for frequent recreational work😉
@anthonygalliart1789 Жыл бұрын
I have tried shooting the .454 Casull, the .500 S&W, the .444 Rhino and .375 Winchester in large framed revolvers and based upon my size they were all too much for me. The .44 mag is the largest pistol round I have been able to handle so over the years I have built up a good sized collection of them mostly SAA copies. Two Ruger Super Blackhawks, one Red Hawk, one S&W Classic Hunter one 6" 629, 3 EAA Bounty Hunters and one Taylor's Cattleman. In lever guns one Winchester Trapper, one Marlin and one Rossie. I think the .454 is good medicine but I want a pistol I can handle in the same caliber as my carbine or rifle in the Rossie's case (20" stainless), the other 2 are 16". If I lived in Alaska then the .454 would be an option I would consider but would probably stick with the 45-70 as you can get that dang near everywhere up there. Thanks for the video, nice job.
@TargetSuite Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. I think the 454 Casull would be too much in a handgun. Certainly for me. With that said I do have a new 454 Casull Rossi that I'll be showing off here in a few weeks.
@anthonygalliart1789 Жыл бұрын
@TargetSuite A Raging Judge or Raging Hunter or another lever gun? I will tune in to see whatever you got.
@frankhinkle57722 жыл бұрын
Nice rifle! Thanks Larry! I bet that you are at the gym today doing a shoulder day.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
On the contrary. I was able to cancel my appointment at the chiropractor! Haha!
@frankhinkle57722 жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite The recoil put everything back in place? That looks like a gun anyone can shoot once, but it takes a good man to keep shooting it.
@bassmangotdbluz3547 Жыл бұрын
I own an R92 20" Stainless Steel chambered in .357Magnum and I love the thing. it is beautifully finished for the money.
@DoctorMangler6 ай бұрын
I've got the Casull in a Ruger SRH and I love it. I reload so I can afford to shoot it, then it's just a few pennies more than an ACP. Wonderful cartridge, and I like the fact that the guns are smaller than say the .460Smith and the 500Smith. The Ruger SRH in .454 Casull is easy to holster on your hip, the .460Smith is not.
@phoffert19602 жыл бұрын
I bought my 92 back in the 80s, and being a stickler for originality, my rifle is chambered for 44-40, since the original winchester was never chambered in 45 colt, and 44 magnum didn't exist back then. I have truly enjoyed shooting this rifle for the many years, that I have owned it. Though many have claimed that the early Rossi's suffered from quality problems, mine has never had a problem with the thousands of rounds that I have fired through it, and some of my handloads were a bit warm, if you know what I mean. I do not believe that 44-40 has been available from Rossi for quite some time, but I have sure enjoyed mine. My rifle also does not have the ugly manual safety on top of the bolt, that are now required on the current offerings.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Wow! You've got a great Rossi there! And it's in a great cartridge. I may have a levergun some day chambered in 44-40. Historic!
@eagerlawncare37002 жыл бұрын
I have one in .357 mag and I love it, I did pay a gunsmith to what we "motorheads" call porting the intake and exhaust
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@Iluvbisquits2 жыл бұрын
I have an R92 with 16" barrel in .480 Ruger...I bought it some 10 years ago and had never heard of that caliber...the guy at the shop said there wasn't a creature walking the continent of North America that this rifle couldn't take down...I live in Appalachia and at the time coyotes were becoming more aggressive in our neighborhood...It's a nifty little carbine and makes for handy dandy Jeep gun...
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Nice! I bet that short barrel recoil is pretty stout!
@Iluvbisquits2 жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite aim a little low :P
@paulm749 Жыл бұрын
If you can find some of the .452 diameter 395gr WFN gas check bullets that have been made from time to time, or source a die to cast them yourself, you can make a 454 Casull load that rivals or exceeds the power of the standard 45-70. Add in the fact that a given length magazine tube will hold a greater number of 454 rounds than 45-70 rounds, and with the Rossi 92, you will have what is perhaps the ultimate light-weight, big-bore lever action repeater.
@alabamasmokeywilson6818 Жыл бұрын
Wow this is one nice Rifle 👏. I recently purchased a. 38 .357. I sure like it no real recoil with. 357. I live in Alabama so it's all I need.
@TargetSuite Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. Truth is, very few of us NEED a 454 casull😉 And if it wasn't for the channel I probably wouldn't have this one. 44 mag is all I need. And when I'm not feeling that I'll reach for my 38/357 Winchester 92.
@alabamasmokeywilson6818 Жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite Thanks for the reply. I have a 80s Rossi. 357 when Interarms imported them and a Ruger SP101 so I have 3 guns that shoots the same shells
@thebigdr30602 жыл бұрын
I have one of the rare R92 in .480 Ruger. 325 grain Hornady XTP is the standard and most common round. Buffalo Bore makes a 410 grain hard cast. Talk about beast!
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Wow! I think that would hurt me to watch you shoot it😉
@thebigdr30602 жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite I doubt it thumps any more than the Casull! Pretty comparable. The .480 Ruger never became very popular, which is a shame as it has a sort of “round” recoil. It is not as sharp as one might imagine. I have no problem hitting with the R92 or accompanying Ruger Super RedHawk in the same caliber. Ammo is unfortunately unable to be located these days, for the most part.
@petrosspetrosgali2 жыл бұрын
I had one of those about 17 years ago. Max loaded .45 colts felt like .22lr out of that rifle. It was BAD ASS.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Yes. This is a beast!
@snowdogthewolf2 жыл бұрын
Those Buffalo Bore hardcast rounds are generating energies at the muzzle typical of a 7mm Remington Magnum. Impressive!
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Very impressive. Of course effective range and terminal performance is going to be dramatically different because of the Extreme Velocity of the 7mm Mag. But if your range is short and your Quarry in need of deeper penetration the 454 Casull might be the perfect pill. Thanks for watching!
@snowdogthewolf2 жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite I just need something to deal with all these pesky squirrels raiding my birdfeeder. 😆
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha!
@danoneill28462 жыл бұрын
@12:30 I did a jug test with 45LC Matts Bullets , full wad cutter , med hard lead , went into 4 jugs , blew up the first 2 pretty good . About 900 Ft/ sec ? from a 6.5" S&W . Powerful but very user friendly .
@savageater57 Жыл бұрын
I like shooting leverguns for several reasons one of which is typically lower recoil . Out of the seven leverguns in five different calibers (non of which are rimfire) the only one with objectionable recoil is the .444 marlin . The 45-70 marlins are pussycats .
@andreschondelmaier48348 ай бұрын
I love this Rifle, Have one in blued . My favourite. I don't consider it to be too big in recoil. It is OK with colt 45 but only with longer bullets 250gr , 200grn you have to give a little help into barrel. Favourite factory round - Magtech 260gr jfn. Favourite hand load 32grn blue dot (full case compressed) with 185gr sierra jhp for a velocity of 2600fps 😊. Put a Lyman front site on and solder a 7/32" nut into middle of buck horn . Idea to screw in different apertures. But nut makes perfect ghost ring. Happy shooting
@Eurowefilms421 Жыл бұрын
I bought a Rossi.357 mag a dozen years ago mainly because I have the dies for pistol reloads, sweet rifle using H110... oh btw I'm in France.
@thomasdye9268 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the video. I have a stainless Rossi 92 chambered in 454 Casull. Everyone here in Indiana wanted the .45 Colt version even though the Casull will chamber and shoot that caliber. The only difference between the one I have and the one in the video is the sights.....mine are tru-glow (or something like it). I purchased mine over a decade ago and there was a lot of Internet hand-wringing over pressure concerns back then. I have seen any actual photographic evidence the Rossi 92 454 Casull has ever kaboomed!
@hardball107 Жыл бұрын
It's 10 months later from my last post. I have both a SS 20" 454 and a SS 20" 357, I bought the 357 because the rifles are so nice and I wanted to save a few bucks and stop beating myself up. My rifle was also sensitive about cycling the 45 Colt rounds but being primarily a handloader I bought some no name 250gr soft points and I passed them through a cannular tool from pacific Tool & Die I had and long loaded them for proper cycling. I know, kind of defeats the point of the 45 Colt and I am still searching for a cheap bullet that will work. If it's out there I'll find it.
@valuedhumanoid6574 Жыл бұрын
I have shot every hand cannon made. 500 S&W Mag, Desert Eagle 50 cal, 44 Mag, you name it. The one I vowed never to touch again was the 454 Casull. Stupid power doesn't quite do it justice, but it will suffice. My hand was numb for an hour. Never had any pistol hurt that much.
@Gyppor4 ай бұрын
George, this is close to my ideal rifle, just needs a shorter barrel. I had one years ago, a 16" stainless in .454, but I had to send it back as the machining on the receiver was horrendous and it separated case heads on the Hornady factory ammo I tested in it. 300 grain XTP-mag@1,950 fps and 240@ 2,315fps. that thing was wild, and it seems the 16" is no longer made. hope springs eternal, though!
@cw2a2 жыл бұрын
I have shot 45 Colts for ever. Got i to the Rugers and Marlins so I could load them hotter. Took countless deer and hogs. But got ta worry about these hotter loads getting into my weaker 45 Colts. So I looked for a 454. Then a carbine 454. I stoped all hot 45 Colts and used the 454 light data that nearly duplicated my heavy 45 Colt loads. I was in love!! My carbine was a single shot. Ill be looking for one of these!!
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
I can see that would be a problem. Fortunately we don't have any 45 Colt guns that can't stand +P loads. Thanks for your comment!
@thebigfellar7178 Жыл бұрын
I liked subbed and notified. I saw this video and it reminded me to start trying to find one of these again. A few years ago finding a Rossi was like trying to find ""God"" . And you keep saying how hard they are to find now years later. My dealer will find one if they are making them still. We'll see. I have some big hairy ,ugly animals that frequent our home. They like breaking small trees and limbs off trees to warn us when we venture to close. I don't know though. Rossi is not known for reliable firearms I sure as heck do not need another weapon. Makes me blush every time my wife reminds me of just ""how many "" I have. I have an Armstrong Beowulf I bought. The real deal cost a lot more than the knockoffs, but again "reliable "" is everything to me. I bought the factory 10 shot mags, their ammo, and she is reliable. You said in your video it was jamming on the 45's so honesty is a virtue. Would you trust your life to it????? Peace.
@charlesmorgan18792 жыл бұрын
That is a sweet beast ! Thanks to Larry for sharing in the content.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@paulsdogwalking2 жыл бұрын
man, you have me thinkin about buying a .357 rossi, with that quality build statement
@russellkeeling4387 Жыл бұрын
A year or so ago I helped a friend sell nearly 200 Winchester model 94 lever action rifles. None were the older models and none of those Winchester rifles were of better quality than the two Rossi model 92 Puma models that I owned. Some of the Winchesters were as good but none better.
@rohawaha2 жыл бұрын
What a gorgeous gun , you could walk any where in Alaska and fear no bear with that rifle in your hands.
@tveggemeyer81032 жыл бұрын
I have a Rossi 44 Mag with a 16" barrel and a steel but plate. It hurts, esp if you are trying to shoot off of a bench. It is definitely a handy hog, truck, ATV gun. I have had it for about 9-10 years and can't complain about the quality. Nice balance in the hand but hurts more than my Blackhawk to shoot with the same load. I guess I am just a wimp. 😳
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
No sir I don't think you are a wimp at all. That short barrel light Rossi is going to bite with its Snappy recoil.
@jasonkoestner4630 Жыл бұрын
I had a 44 magnum Rossi case color hardened receiver twenty four inch octagon barrel great gun no problems at all
@sammylacks4937 Жыл бұрын
That is a beautiful rifle and what an awesome caliber to chamber it in. I'll garentee that round will get a whitetails attention in a hurry.
@noahmercy-mann4323 Жыл бұрын
I'm still keeping my eye out for one to pair with a Ruger Alaskan 454. that 92 may feed fine with 45 Colt if you load LBT-style bullets (lots of bullet out of the case with a long, gentle ogive and large meplat like the cast bullets in that Buffalo Bore ammo). I know that's what I needed in 38 Special cases for my wife's 357 Mag Rossi 92. All the jacketed bullets I tried, from 125 grain through 180, either didn't feed at all or at least not smoothly, but the 158 grain bullets I cast from the Lee RNFP mould feed slicker'n snake snot on a glass doorknob.
@jakegandy1173 Жыл бұрын
I wish marlin or even Henry made a 454 version
@noahmercy-mann4323 Жыл бұрын
@@jakegandy1173 I'd jump all over a Marlin if it became available, but I actually prefer the Rossi '92s over the Henry guns for accuracy, weight, and smoothness of action (after I've polished them up).