Engineering Drawings: How to Make Prints a Machinist Will Love

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@tarkka
@tarkka 4 жыл бұрын
Want more on Engineering Drawings? We just made a full 1.5 hour LinkedIn Learning course: Engineering Drawings for Manufacturing. You can find it on our website: www.tarkka.co/drawings Thank you all for the support, and we are coming out with more KZbin videos soon!
@tonywilson4713
@tonywilson4713 3 жыл бұрын
As an engineer with 30+ years of experience the opening introduction to this is something I have preached for years. I did a degree in aerospace but have mainly worked in automation and control systems and have done literally 1000s of control system schematics and panel layouts. Look at a the description for this video "Making drawings is a skill that any practicing engineer needs to master. Unfortunately, it's not something that is taught very well in most engineering schools." *THAT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.* AutoCAD is brilliant and I love it but it has also caused a similar problem that Microsoft, Apple and others have caused with spell and grammar checkers. Its made engineers lazy and they DON'T CHECK what they have drawn often enough. Combined with the latest generations of CAM and CNC they just don't have to get a handle on things like tolerancing and functionality. I see this all the time in automation. Badly toleranced designs where EVERY tolerance is 0.01mm or 0.001mm (micron) which is fine when your doing a one off on a CNC. *BUT* if it has to be done by hand then you are spending vast amounts of time doing things with NO BENEFIT. Worse if its for production runs then you are adding unnecessary CNC costs (in time) to each part. Over in the control systems I see people make lazy blanket decisions on control wiring all the time and on large scale electrical and control projects the cost of copper (buying and installing) is sometimes as high as 70% of the entire cost. Big mine sites (and I have done a few) have incredible costs just in the power wiring and serious costs in the signal and sensor wiring. Most sensors need less than 30mA to operate so they don't need cables with 6 or 10A capacity. Most pneumatic solenoids operate less than 200mA and don't need wiring for 6 or 10A. As I keep saying AutoCAD and all the similar packages are brilliant and magical and save heaps of time and energy and grief, but like anything they can make people lazy and that never ends well. The part in the video where you talk about hand drafting is just so true. I see TOO MANY younger engineers who cannot do any drawing by hand. My favorite trick is to ask them where "layers" came from. I learned technical drawing just before CAD arrived so I have done it with "layers" of tracing paper. Great video keep doing this sort of stuff it benefits all of us.
@Gottenhimfella
@Gottenhimfella 3 жыл бұрын
Great, but could you use clearer voices? And PLEASE, do not mix background music with voice. Trying to make sense of it is like trying to read from a page with insects crawling over it.
@tonywilson4713
@tonywilson4713 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gottenhimfella Well said. There are way too many people who think their sound track is more meaningful than information.
@LT72884
@LT72884 3 жыл бұрын
Is LinkedIn learning the same as Lynda? Because i have a lynda account from my school
@ceooflonelinessinc.267
@ceooflonelinessinc.267 3 жыл бұрын
Are you a couple?
@pebbles4855
@pebbles4855 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a mechanical engineer and former toolmaker and was expecting some clickbait, annoying youtube music video, but I was positively surprised. A lot of very good and helpful information for newcomers and unfortunately for some senior engineers too. Nice channel, keep it up.
@RubSomefastOnIt
@RubSomefastOnIt 3 жыл бұрын
Being a former toolmaker (tool and die here) gives you a huge leg up on most engineers with no shop floor experience. If I was in charge I would make it mandatory.
@jc438
@jc438 3 жыл бұрын
It's nothing that they wouldn't teach in first month on university...
@RubSomefastOnIt
@RubSomefastOnIt 3 жыл бұрын
@@jc438 yup here's the guy that makes needlessly tight tolerances and super fine finishes on parts... it's all the stupid machinist fault it's not on time or in budget right?
@JSBHP2017
@JSBHP2017 3 жыл бұрын
​@@RubSomefastOnIt Good universities actually do that...either your worked as a toolmaker, technican, electrician or you have to do an internship while you're studying...at least it's like that in Germany :D
@jc438
@jc438 3 жыл бұрын
@@RubSomefastOnIt Why do you judge. Learning about design is actually led from the production point of view, as design is serving production purposes, not opposite way.
@m3chanist
@m3chanist 3 жыл бұрын
The pace of narration...summed up very nicely........."tolerances that are unreasonably tight"
@mmpiforall5913
@mmpiforall5913 3 жыл бұрын
ah,..... ".00005" is one-half of 1 tenth of a thou! AKA 50 millionths !!
@henmich
@henmich 3 жыл бұрын
But the software works to .001mm. Lol.. We deal with this every day. On a 3d model, we would get a fillet rejected for a tiny patch being .002mm under.... So we tell them an end mill will not ever go under that number, so you are safe, and they look at you blankly. This is what happens when people have NO shop experience.
@henmich
@henmich 3 жыл бұрын
@@mmpiforall5913 Seems reasonable.... in a humidity controlled, temperature controlled environment, C0 ground/zero backlash ball screws on every axis, with prefect part/tool cooling and tools that are perfectly in spec and never wear down. Yup, that pretty much describes a machine shop.... HAHAHAHAHAA
@Artydea
@Artydea 3 жыл бұрын
@@henmich I've also had this, let's call it a bad habit, but then I understood that it was unreasonable. That probably looked very unprofessionaly, my thought was "so they can do 0.01mm, that's cool, let's place it almost everywhere, the part would be great" :D
@mr_gerber
@mr_gerber 3 жыл бұрын
@@henmich What software works to .001mm? CAM or CAD? 'cause I've never seen a CAD tool that hard clips at .001mm (I mean, it's practically useless, but hey.). It usually just rounds off to nearest .001mm
@bingosunnoon9341
@bingosunnoon9341 3 жыл бұрын
I worked as a draftsman, checker, engineer and even taught drafting in jr college. This is the best lesson I've ever seen anywhere. Excellent.
@thepinwale
@thepinwale 3 жыл бұрын
00:00 - Intro 01:36 - Drawing template 01:51 - Title Block on Engineering Drawings 02:04 - Blanket tolerances in Title Block 02:30 - Revision table & Note section 02:45 - Coordinate border legend 03:00 - Projection systems, view orientations & alignment 04:12 - Hidden Lines & Tangent Lines 04:45 - Dimensioning - Size, Position, & Placement 05:18 - Assumed dimensions 05:31 - Dimension selection 06:17 - Repeated features 06:34 - Indicating tighter tolerances 06:52 - Geometric dimensioning and tolerancing 07:43 - Best practices about arbitrary tight tolerances 07:50 - Indicating Surface Finishes & Seals 08:03 - More on the Note sections 08:40 - Flag notes 08:48 - Edge breaks and burr removal 09:24 - Assembly drawings recap
@cesarvidelac
@cesarvidelac 3 жыл бұрын
That's an international problem now: "Most universities do an awful job teaching the concept". Here in Chile, the same.
@Heatherder
@Heatherder 3 жыл бұрын
Its because they dont hire good engineers to teach. Most professors never grew up
@sungvin
@sungvin 3 жыл бұрын
Here in Russia, the same
@nox_chan
@nox_chan 3 жыл бұрын
Same here in the United States
@smeetashar
@smeetashar 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the problem was only in India; No one taught us Detailed drawings and everyone expects senior engineering graduates to be perfect with drawings.
@sungvin
@sungvin 3 жыл бұрын
@@smeetashar relatable
@slackstation
@slackstation 3 жыл бұрын
It's 2AM. KZbin, for the love of God, why did you recommend this video? Now I want to design brake calipers.
@neo_tsz
@neo_tsz 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not even in engineering, but I still watched the whole thing. Good job in condensing the information!
@blazianable
@blazianable 5 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel via your reddit post and let me just say this is THE channel I've always hoped for! Don't stop making videos, they're very helpful!
@Oclb
@Oclb 3 жыл бұрын
As a machinist I cannot thank you so much for making this. I hope all engineers heed this advice. I hate when a drawing is missing something and then I call the engineers and they get annoyed with me 🙄 like really
@cfgosnell
@cfgosnell 3 жыл бұрын
LAtely, I have had experiences where the model is given to the machinist and they are expected to find the missing dimensions by interrogating the model themselves. ASME Y14.41 along with Model Based Definition is supposed to help fix this issue, but I see it as adding an extra layer of complexity.
@banquetoftheleviathan1404
@banquetoftheleviathan1404 3 жыл бұрын
this is more of a drafting issue tho right? or maybe the engineers are giving the draftsmen bad instructions?
@JB-dv7ew
@JB-dv7ew 2 жыл бұрын
@@banquetoftheleviathan1404 Draftsmen and designers don't really exist anymore. I'm a mech engineer at my company and I literally do everything.
@banquetoftheleviathan1404
@banquetoftheleviathan1404 2 жыл бұрын
@@JB-dv7ew well fuck, guess I'll die when my boss does then
@ChrisCiber
@ChrisCiber 3 жыл бұрын
I felt more informed by this one video than the entire Drafting/CAD class I took
@UltraGamma25
@UltraGamma25 3 жыл бұрын
Same, youtube teaches you more than school does in 12 years.
@Fragst3rDota
@Fragst3rDota 3 жыл бұрын
@@UltraGamma25 Well maybe the german way to have a specific "vocational school" when you start an apprenticeship is not to bad. There u learn exactly this stuff and way more in detail than you do in university :)
@UltraGamma25
@UltraGamma25 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fragst3rDota I agree 100% on the apprenticeship idea. It's why Tradeschools are better
@davestambaugh7282
@davestambaugh7282 3 жыл бұрын
In the past you never had to take drafting classes to be a mechanical engineer. When the computer drawing systems came out, they fired all of the draftsmen and gave the engineers software manuals. The software manuals do not teach fits and clearances. If you do not understand fits and clearances you can not properly dimention a print. Frenches Engineering, And Gisec Mitchell and Spencer were my textbooks from the seventh grade to navy illustrator draftsman A school. Fits and clearances is based in the principal that "two objects can not occupy the same space at the same time".
@davisdesigns1153
@davisdesigns1153 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! you don't know how long this has been bugging me
@avishai7830
@avishai7830 3 жыл бұрын
As a machinist, I thank God for this video! Sending this to all of the engineers I work with 🙄 How annoying it is when I have to deal with engineers with no machining experience who draw parts that are near impossible to machine. Thank God for you guys making detailed explanation videos!!!
@preetamyadav7952
@preetamyadav7952 3 жыл бұрын
I am also mechanical engineer . But i hate these drawings .
@edwinmerino2147
@edwinmerino2147 3 жыл бұрын
Best engineering channel hands down. Just stumbled across your o-ring video (knowing little to nothing about o-rings) and was blown away at the quality of information per second you were spitting out.
@benjaminkinga7797
@benjaminkinga7797 5 жыл бұрын
This is an under-appreciated channel. I hope you continue making more content
@tarkka
@tarkka 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! We are working on more videos.
@drain_001
@drain_001 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a mechanical engineer and this video was incredibly validating and informative, thank you :)
@JoeSmoeDoeLow
@JoeSmoeDoeLow 4 жыл бұрын
10:10 "most universities do an awful job at teaching the concept". Can't agree more, that's why I am watching this video. Thank you for making this!
@RandDickson
@RandDickson 4 жыл бұрын
My solid modeling class was 2 years ago and only part of it concerned drawings. Thanks for the refresher!
@firstclassatlast5352
@firstclassatlast5352 3 жыл бұрын
I know I'm late, but my uni's CAD and machining courses were completely separate. So not many in CAD had ever seen a blueprint, and most in my machining classmates had never modeled in CAD. I did a crossover program.
@pravalkumar2124
@pravalkumar2124 4 жыл бұрын
By far the most professional content on engineering drawing. Looking forward for more on GD&T.
@thombaz
@thombaz 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they use measuring tape when picking up reference point, indeed very professional.
@TAH1712
@TAH1712 3 жыл бұрын
@@thombaz the machinist used the measuring tape for rough raw material initial placement. I agree it was quite a visual contradiction to see a tape rule and a ball edge finder in the same clip. - not the fault of the video authors. I started my engineering career as a glass working technician, doing a stint in the drawing office ... i have no other way than perfect undisputable drawings, to get the parts i want. Overall a good video.
@thombaz
@thombaz 3 жыл бұрын
@@TAH1712 I am just playing the a-hole. When I learned machinig and some one come to the calss with a folding ruler in his pocket. It was a good laugh when he grabed it for mesuring
@TAH1712
@TAH1712 3 жыл бұрын
@@thombaz haha...
@josemarquez86
@josemarquez86 Ай бұрын
To anybody who watching this, if you're a young buck and you want to be into the trades? As a mechanical designer engineer it's the best feeling 11 years experience. Also a little hint , draw like a machines also asme & iso standards! And never be afraid to step on toes! (Tread lightly)
@amarissimus29
@amarissimus29 3 жыл бұрын
This is very helpful, thank you. When I first had to create my first drawings, I struggled mightily with superfluous overload. I knew what I would want included but this seldom turned out to be what the machinist needed. The urge to just dimension everything ten times over becomes strong when you are frustrated. It took me way too long to discover how to chain dimensions properly. Even in retrospect, this information is valuable, so thanks again.
@RFC-3514
@RFC-3514 3 жыл бұрын
3:23 - In other words, what any normal human calls "backwards". I guess this goes some way towards explaining why nearly all manufacturing jobs moved abroad. ;-)
@danielsantiagoguevara1695
@danielsantiagoguevara1695 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. This is a great video. I'm a mechanical engineer student and I've had to struggle with the drawings, I'm sure you're gonna help other students with your work.
@Philip_J
@Philip_J 3 жыл бұрын
This is actually an amazing small walkthrough of technical drawings, I had a class on it last semester in uni, and this is great for refreshing what I learned there.
@MozwGamer
@MozwGamer 2 жыл бұрын
I passed mechanical drawing with ease, learned the ISO norms. Now I'm here revisioning every theoretical subject and this video sparked me an interest to learn Asme norms.
@learnitalready
@learnitalready Жыл бұрын
“A lot of new engineers really struggle with making drawings, especially because most universities do an awful job teaching the concept” - 10:10 Agreed! That was one of the largest problems that I had to deal with in both my design and manufacturing work. I received drawings all the time from “specialized” shops full of new grads that had no concept of what a good drawing was supposed to be like. After phoning them, they would say “just do your best to meet the dimensions”… but they didn’t realize that conflicting dimensions will make the part inoperable or not function correctly. Anyways, this is an awesome video! Thanks for producing it. Looking forward to diving into more of your work! 👏
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video on GD&T. I've just started learning it, and I can already see how powerful it is compared to just trying to control size tolerances everywhere. As an instructor put it "Tight tolerances just guarantee that a part will be expensive, not that it will fit"
@tarkka
@tarkka 5 жыл бұрын
GD&T position tolerance is coming up next!
@joro8604
@joro8604 2 ай бұрын
great info. Made tons of parts and drawings and still learned something.
@kummer45
@kummer45 2 жыл бұрын
THIS IS A REVELATION. Why can't we have more educational material like this. I learned architecture HERE more than I did in five years. The representation and the object itself being discussed in parallel was a revelation.
@MegaDoghair
@MegaDoghair 3 жыл бұрын
1:51 George P. Burdell (+ George W. Woodruff and Henry Ford)!!! Currently studying Mech Eng. THWG! That aside, this video is exceptionally well-made. The information was very helpful in filling some gaps I had from my engineering graphics course.
@mrteemug5329
@mrteemug5329 2 жыл бұрын
I started my job as a design engineer in April and didn't know squat about drawing. I learned more or less everything this video covered and more by constantly asking my co-worker's opinions on my drawings and reading the machinist handbook. I still make mistakes all the time, but I'm learning as I go.
@gsaarchitecturalmechanical5872
@gsaarchitecturalmechanical5872 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing this video, I am a draftsman and looking forward to my studies in Mechanical Engineering, please continue to post more videos like this
@evanparker
@evanparker 5 жыл бұрын
i am a mechanical engineer, 11 years experience. i was waiting for some mess ups in this video but didn't hear any! excellent work. I especially agree about avoiding putting TYP everywhere on a drawing. Some of the older engineers really lean on that one really hard lol. the only thing i'd add is that regardless of what the standard is, some engineering places just have a house style, and even though it's not always correct correct sometimes, trying not to rock the boat too much is usually the best thing from an organizational perspective.
@tarkka
@tarkka 5 жыл бұрын
This is excellent advice that can be applied to many facets of one's career.
@spec24
@spec24 4 жыл бұрын
Better listen again then. Per ASME 14.2: "Hidden lines should be omitted when their use is not required for the clarity of the drawing."
@sethw9979
@sethw9979 3 жыл бұрын
@@spec24 there were some pedantic statements, but more often than not I find that the standard conflicts itself on such nuanced details of low importance. e.g. reference dimensions are described as *requiring* inclusion of the tolerance range specified by the driving dimensions, and also described as being inconsequential to the specification; that's incongruent.
@thegavelissoundgavel9849
@thegavelissoundgavel9849 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a retired toolmaker and Project General Forman in the marine repair/ large shipbuilding industry. I despise poor engineering direction. Most of which can almost always be broken down to poor attention to detail. These folks are solid. Only thing I didn’t like was their take on “typ”. I find it useful/necessary to clean up cluttered dwgs, say...items with many redundant specs like large flange bolt holes or tube dimensions for heat exchangers for example. There might be 12 typicals to keep straight but those could easily represent thousands of dimension instructions. I’d make my apprentices watch these guys as well as my jr engineers.
@thegavelissoundgavel9849
@thegavelissoundgavel9849 3 жыл бұрын
One reason us old guys lean on “typ” hard because printed drawings get folded on the job site and tended to wear away the ink in the creases. Reading drawings used to be much more interesting before screens became prevalent. We could just zoom in to clarify either if things got packed in to tight.
@gerardmoran
@gerardmoran 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Sometimes it's satisfying to hear confirmation for even basic things you've always suspected but never been told.
@11vag
@11vag 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not an engineer, nor did I understand a word of what they were talking about, but I'm glad KZbin recommended the video. I subscribed, because why not, right?
@ahndeux
@ahndeux 3 жыл бұрын
Minimum dimensioned drawing is preferred for more complex designs. You basically provide the STEP database model to the machine shop and have a default tolerance on the drawing. This prevents errors caused by the vendor remodeling the part based on the dimensions in the drawing. Any tolerance that is tighter than the standard tolerance would be specified on the drawing. Additional dimensions that need to be called out are dimensions referenced to anything other than the typical A,B, or C datums defined in the drawing. As for holes, we use a separate parametric table to show all the holes with a code. This way, a machinist only has to look up the hole code and the table for information. You can add additional information on the table such as geometric tolerances, inserts, and plating requirements.
@josephdegraffenried3976
@josephdegraffenried3976 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm a new engineer and found this to be a good refresher/reminder.
@gerarbendfeldt
@gerarbendfeldt 3 жыл бұрын
I wish there are more videos like this for Architecture. I am an Architect, I don't know what I am doing here, but I love it.
@Andronicus1717
@Andronicus1717 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm going to make this video a part of my on boarding curriculum for new engineers.
@CorndogBrownie
@CorndogBrownie 3 жыл бұрын
As a machinist that is transitioning into a mech eng. One thing to add to all of the things stated in this video is, If possible have the isometric view in colour if possible. Makes troubleshooting a million times easier, especially on assmeblies
@davestambaugh7282
@davestambaugh7282 3 жыл бұрын
I keep running into people who have no understanding of orthographic projection, demand three dimensional almost photographic half tone representations.
@aidenbourman6450
@aidenbourman6450 3 жыл бұрын
I'm getting profiled by the YT algorithm. I'm using this to procrastinate finishing all of my drawings for my cad class's final project.
@Verifraudreports
@Verifraudreports 3 жыл бұрын
hats off to this vid..been a toolmaker for 20 years ..cant tell you how many times i have had these arguments with green engineers.. 7 datums that conflict with eachother.. .0000001 tol for NO reason....
@gigioconio
@gigioconio 3 жыл бұрын
Fall in love with inventor lot of years ago....best cad ever
@ute.fritzkowski
@ute.fritzkowski 3 жыл бұрын
Very good information. There are a lot of modeling tutorials on the web, but very little about drawing. People don't seem to like it that much. But it is so important.
@PT0B
@PT0B 3 жыл бұрын
As a general rule, I enjoy: 1) Not wasting others' time. 2) Not looking like an idiot when it could be avoided. This video helps me to meet both those specs. Thank you!
@denisl2760
@denisl2760 3 жыл бұрын
My company needs to send all the engineers to remedial school and make them watch all your videos. "Hey so this part that I'm making on a manual mill has a 0.171875" dimension, are you sure that's correct?" "Oh yeah, just get it as close as possible it'll be fine."
@bunnagautama3631
@bunnagautama3631 3 жыл бұрын
because inches are stupid
@williamnash4799
@williamnash4799 3 жыл бұрын
@@bunnagautama3631 so you think if it were 4.365625 mm you could hit it on a manual mill?
@jeepmanxj
@jeepmanxj 3 жыл бұрын
We have parts that have drawings with .001mm tolerances on counter bores. Shit gets me every time I see them.
@jeepmanxj
@jeepmanxj 3 жыл бұрын
@@bunnagautama3631 In machining metric or imperial means precisely fuck all. You are working off of decimal numbers either way. You don't see a part dimensioned across multiple scales so metrics advantage is pointless.
@steffg8351
@steffg8351 3 жыл бұрын
Can't decide what's more efficient, the drawings or this narration
@tjvanderloop1686
@tjvanderloop1686 3 жыл бұрын
The drawing is truly the language of industry. Today ASME Y14.5-2018 is common with "Geometric Tolerancing" as a true functional layout technique. A tolerance is best placed directly on the individual features. The part then can be applied based on the exact functional intent. Outsourcing to an outside manufacturing-shop is common with "GD&T" Geometric Dimensioning and Tolerancing. Your video is great! T J (Tom) Vanderloop, Author, Mechanical Designer & Consultant; ATEA, AWS & SME-life Leader and Member.
@MrMeasaftw
@MrMeasaftw Жыл бұрын
As a mechanical engineer who has been held to the lowest standards for 3 years now. Starting at a new company where decent drawings are manditory, I will definitely be binge watching this channel and putting the advice to use.
@drakenburg1
@drakenburg1 4 жыл бұрын
I can not stress how much a channel like this was needed on KZbin. Absalutely brilliant guys! My new favourite channel.
@n00byWan
@n00byWan 3 жыл бұрын
As machinist i'm really happy to see some good work thanks a lot !
@mjtunstall1976
@mjtunstall1976 Жыл бұрын
thank you for bring that green book earlier in the clip, i have been looking for it but wouldnt remember the name of that book! i lost it in the flood years ago by a good teacher who recommend me that book in high school - that was 30 years ago!!! good presentation!
@robertbohrer7501
@robertbohrer7501 5 жыл бұрын
Ga Tech representing! Nice work!
@mikewasowski1411
@mikewasowski1411 3 жыл бұрын
Where have you guys been all my life?! This is amazing content. Thanks
@jacobhouston1655
@jacobhouston1655 4 жыл бұрын
This is incredible content, guys. Keep it up! We want more.
@dts_user1389
@dts_user1389 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are actual heroes! Thank you so much for this video!
@mr.cheese2499
@mr.cheese2499 3 ай бұрын
One thing to note is that companies may not follow some typical drawing formats. At my work we don’t use balloons and instead opt for calling parts out on the face of the drawing. We also use the same block format on all pages. This helps keep the page flipping down and if needed separate pages.
@shankar554
@shankar554 3 жыл бұрын
Guys superb job and an awesome channel. Keep coming!
@mathankumarn1934
@mathankumarn1934 4 жыл бұрын
Great video those who are in the design field thank you so much tarkka.
@markharrisllb
@markharrisllb 3 жыл бұрын
My father was a fitter and turner who had very bad osteoarthritis from his time in the RN during WWII. So he had to be retrained as a draftsman of the pencil variety. My brother was a fitter and turner who after being made redundant in his late 20s went back to school and got his B.Eng MSc and then his PhD and he now writes CAD programs as he needs them. I was a chef, then did a law degree. I don’t understand what my father did or what my brother does.
@jawaring4367
@jawaring4367 3 жыл бұрын
If you're doing this for 3d printing I recommend OnShape over Fusion 360 for free CAD software. Fusion takes FOREVER to export files while OnShape is instant, making prototyping take a fraction of the time that F360 takes.
@francescoruggeri1136
@francescoruggeri1136 Ай бұрын
Very nice video and useful advices! If I can suggest, in my experience I’ve found very helpful, when possible, to submit the drawing to your final customer (either internal or external) for review. As customer I mean for example a machining, assembling or dimensional quality check responsible. It always helped learning something new, creating a relationship of mutual respect with my production colleagues and, last but not least, avoiding poor figures! 😅 Thanks again!
@alexlutz2221
@alexlutz2221 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is a bit of an older video but I am a gage design engineer and I would very much like to emphasize a few things that make my job easier when I get a customers print and need to interpret it in order to design a quality gage that checks what you want. 1 make sure your datum structure is accessable for fixturing and clear as to the location and feature it uses. 2 make sure your datum structure is robust enough to effectively hold the part for gaging and manufacturing.3 as you said don't make dimensions tighter than you absolutely need them to be because when we go to build you a gage we need to hit 10% of your tolerance and if it's too tight for a certain feature we may be forced to no quote it due to the reality of not being able to certify it, it not being possible to make a master or gage with the appropriate tolerances for the specified geometry and or not being able to provide a R&R that would pass your standards or ours.4 make sure you use the correct number of datum points for your call out due to the geometry of the part and how rigid it is we can't always make a gage that effectively holds the part to more than 3 primary 2 secondary and 1 tirtiary datum point because more than that and we can run into inconsistency issues in the part where we can't force the part to contact every datum. 5 be especially careful about tight runout tolerances deep inside hard to reach features because we need to rotate a probe on the surface and if the handle on the gage would have to be super long to reach it your hands can easily apply enough force to influence the measurements due to the leverage of the handle. Finally the Bottom line is make sure you think about how your part will be fixtured for machining and gaging while you are designing it and make sure you make it isn't something that will either cost your company way more money than is nessesary to gage or would just not be physically possible to gage. And for gods sake when you are sending stuff out to get quoted please send enough information. 3d cad along with the print is ideal but make sure you specify which is the master. Just 2d cad is sometimes ok if you don't have 3d or something but please send us more than a single cropped view that has been photocopied several times to the point where it's so blurry we can't read the dimensions because we usually need to know what the rest of the part looks like in order to give you an accurate quote and down the line an effective gage that doesn't have interferences with your part or assembly.
@ExploreComposites
@ExploreComposites 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great video! Love the clarity and pace!
@michael7324
@michael7324 3 жыл бұрын
As a former machinist, I thank you.
@davestambaugh7282
@davestambaugh7282 3 жыл бұрын
The term machinist is now used to describe both a machine operator and a machinist. There used to be a difference but they are kinda lumped together now. It's confusing.
@michael7324
@michael7324 3 жыл бұрын
@@davestambaugh7282 Hmm. I was both. I was a machine operator. (Basically baby sitting a huge plastic extrusion machine) and I was a machinist, making low production run parts for a small shop. This was 40 years ago. Has anything changes since then? Lol.
@davestambaugh7282
@davestambaugh7282 3 жыл бұрын
@@michael7324 Even all of the low production run part work is being done in China now.
@ChefofWar33
@ChefofWar33 3 жыл бұрын
@@davestambaugh7282 There still is a difference. But usually, the machine operator still needs to have the prints so he can check the tolerances as he is running the parts.
@davestambaugh7282
@davestambaugh7282 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChefofWar33 When working as an inspector in a CNC shop I used to ask the operator what he measured a particular feature as when they brought me their first article. They usually saw no need to check the part since I was going to check it any way
@StonesAndSand
@StonesAndSand 4 жыл бұрын
I believe every engineer should have to be a machinist / tool and die maker for a minimum of four years before starting engineering school. Some of the things I've seen from senior-level engineers would make my high school shop teacher cry.
@brandons9138
@brandons9138 3 жыл бұрын
I worked at a shop where the owner had 2 foreign exchange student from Germany living with him. To get into an engineering program in Germany you have to have 18 months working in a shop before you can even apply to the program. That is sorely needed here in the US. I can't tell you how many times I've seen prints absolutely spammed with nonsensical GD&T call outs.
@avishai7830
@avishai7830 3 жыл бұрын
@@1234hijs we get that it's hard. What we don't enjoy are engineers who think everything is possible in no time with no cost. We don't enjoy having to look at near impossible parts and being told "I thought you can make anything".
@rubenmendez6065
@rubenmendez6065 3 жыл бұрын
Lol good thing my engineering teacher told me about this already so I’m prepared and ready
@Michu8905
@Michu8905 3 жыл бұрын
I recently stumbled upon this video and i think i will stay for more. Good job :)
@TomasMira28
@TomasMira28 5 жыл бұрын
You guys are like the Mango Street of Mechanical Engineering. I absolutely love your videos.
@tarkka
@tarkka 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@patrickpruden6907
@patrickpruden6907 3 жыл бұрын
I literally got so excited when I saw the reference dimension and don't know why.
@-art3544
@-art3544 4 жыл бұрын
New subscriber. Looking forward to more of your excellent videos.
@neail5466
@neail5466 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, I have been looking for exactly this topic, nice narration, soft voices. A pleasure watching and listening. +1
@rivercityfishing9103
@rivercityfishing9103 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, agreed. I can tell you from first hand experience as a project buyer that nothing is more disruptive than hastily made drawings that lacks a little dimension somewhere or an unspecified angle, hell sometimes they forget to specify which material the part has to be made of, the list can go on.. Then the machinist has to get in touch with purchasing that then has to get in touch with R&D to get them revise their drawing and amend it. In the mean time, production starts getting ancy and asking the purchasing department for the part and that's when I tell them to ask R&D why all this time is getting wasted. It's incredibly counterproductive and quite frankly pisses me off. I've noticed that it's something that happens mostly to inexperienced engineers fresh out of university that are still getting adjusted to real world production environments, over time they learn :) Great insight in this video!
@KISSMYACE3203
@KISSMYACE3203 3 жыл бұрын
I just watched this for the hell of it, very informative and will watch your other videos too; subscribed. I'm a welder by trade, and am wanting to further my skillset getting into machining and CAD, and this brings up a lot of nuances I do (but don't) think about, being self-taught. I've had many subpar prints, so there's a lot of things I think about/do to make manufacturing down the line as easy as possible. Field experience should be a must for engineers, it will make you better.
@vincentli2090
@vincentli2090 9 ай бұрын
this video contains more than my 7 years in school
@lassipls
@lassipls 3 жыл бұрын
I'm finishing my second year of ME studies, and I'd say almost everything told in this video is news to me.
@jaashiik
@jaashiik Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal. Thank you so much for sharing true engineering drawing knowledge!!
@weevilinabox
@weevilinabox 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. As an engineering drawing pedant, trained in British/ISO Standards, I see many details where we differ, but they really are only details. The overall content here is going to be valuable on both sides of The Pond. And you have at leat one viewer here who appreciates the speed of narration. I routinely play videos and podcasts at 1.25x to 2x speed, but not yours.
@gabrieldamian226
@gabrieldamian226 2 жыл бұрын
"A lot of new engineers really struggles with making drawings, specially because most universities do an awful job at teaching the concepts". haha yeah I can relate.
@ruannel5352
@ruannel5352 5 жыл бұрын
When we started with isometric drawing, we'd put three side-views on the sides of a rectangular prism and figure out the shape. I started to see the different views of a part as the net of such a prism folding out. 3rd-angle view looked pretty weird to me, for quite a while. Thanks for reading my blog.
@richardchao3232
@richardchao3232 2 ай бұрын
Hello Tarkka, great video! Do you happen to have the pdf of the "Common Materials and Specifications" that begins showing at 8:15?
@4n2earth22
@4n2earth22 3 жыл бұрын
Refreshingly informative and easy to follow. A very well done tutorial. I am looking forward (and backward for items you have already produced) to more content. Thank you for expressing your talent and proclivities so professionally.
@malcolmmutambanengwe3453
@malcolmmutambanengwe3453 4 жыл бұрын
Just watched this video, many thanks. Keep the content coming!
@gameovercentury
@gameovercentury 3 жыл бұрын
awesome don't have words do explain how awesome this channel is
@Fragst3rDota
@Fragst3rDota 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. I really recommend using ISO 1302 for specifing your surface. The shown way is way to general. Also for breaking the edges there´s another standard ISO 13715 where you can define both outer and inner edges in a very elegant way.
@555aboud
@555aboud 5 жыл бұрын
Stunning vid! Would love to see more videos about engineering drawings and GD&T! You just earned a sub.
@mellinghedd267
@mellinghedd267 Жыл бұрын
I'm a mechanical engineer but I interned at a machine shop. My main project was an assembly for an aircraft company, and they managed to circumvent the problem entirely by sending the CAD models without prints. Nothing more fun then spending half your summer making drawings for a part while you have no idea what the controlling dimensions are
@Tamalain
@Tamalain 3 жыл бұрын
As a machinist of housings for RF/Microwave filters, +/-.005, down to +/-.0001 is standard for me. fun times when tool wear takes it's toll.
@RanjitKumar-pk3mn
@RanjitKumar-pk3mn 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much sir for sharing this basic needs information thank you sir from India
@ajaysukhwani9668
@ajaysukhwani9668 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, super clear and packed with useful info
@Pascal-R
@Pascal-R 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. As other said, I also expected some clickbaity video with zero content and just someone making "pretty" drawings that no machinist should ever have the misfortune of getting in his/her hands, but it was an excellent summation of some of the most important aspects of making good drawings. Great work and I'm looking forward to more of this type of content!
@duckslayer11000
@duckslayer11000 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the best videos on the interwebs.
@hunterrobertson5369
@hunterrobertson5369 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great video - a great find for a sophomore ME
@prabinjachak1733
@prabinjachak1733 2 жыл бұрын
Great work! Need more such informative videos..
@anasobisi
@anasobisi 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Very informative and summed.
@TheSystemActive
@TheSystemActive 3 жыл бұрын
Great and informative video! I will be showing my students. Thanks for all the effort
@ahmedfathy1461
@ahmedfathy1461 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, I found what I want. Awesome, simple and very helpful. Thank you very much for such a great video.
@removebeforeflight7365
@removebeforeflight7365 2 күн бұрын
This is a very informative video. It is best listened to at 0.8x speed.
@josiahtheblacksmith467
@josiahtheblacksmith467 3 жыл бұрын
This is an issue for press operators as well, worked as an automatic punch press operator and die set up, getting hole placement and countersinks in tight tolerance on a moving ribbon of steel is not easy. Worked in the machine shop at times as well.
@wilsonmura5930
@wilsonmura5930 5 жыл бұрын
Love you two, please keep this up.
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