Tarkov is in trouble

[@firesupotree]

The Cycle Frontier is actually a perfect precedent for what happens when Tencent controls an extraction FPS.

[@Zlociutkii]

I love that game, really missed😢

[@firesupotree]

@@Zlociutkii ​ unfortunately it was already doomed to fail before most of us heard of it. Tencent acquired them during the redesign into an extraction, and then set impossibly high monetization standards they would never meet. Cue cancellation and sending them to work in the Tencent mines. Ironic because had they spent more time developing the game, communicating with the community and learning from their predecessors mistakes (p2w, insurance) they could've built an actually monetizable, loyal playerbase.

[@ArchaicTTV]

They stopped putting new skins out a Within a month of each season start lol, its like they werent even trying to make money ​@@firesupotree

[@Cramblit]

@@firesupotree None of that is the reason why The cycle died... it died because the lead dev was an idiot and didnt put a single form of anti cheat into the game.. when cheaters realized this, the cheating was absolutely insane. That killed 80% of the players, which never came back, because they never got the word that the cheating was fixed. Even to this day, I meet tons of people who think The Cycle always had a major cheating issue, no it didn't, that was only the first season, out of 3.

[@0rphros]

Eek

[@Onepeg]

I enjoyed this video. it is relevant to my interests.

[@ZealotTF2]

If they can keep the cheater amount down, then over time they'll take a huge market share of the extraction shooter genre imo. That's what made me quit Tarkov in the first place.

[@TheSpudHunter]

Fingers crossed

[@spartan02elite]

There was issues with cheaters day 1 of beta keys

[@chr1133]

Nobody would make a subscription to netflix if the Service would be broken. Same applies here, people will sub to the game if they have fun, nobody has fun against cheaters, means no income for the company. Now i give u the bsg example, playing vs cheaters they dont care because u already paid for the game. Banning cheaters to make a 4x Bundle in the Shop to reinvite the cheaters. That wont happen in ABI. I also want to add there will be a killcam and a speccam. Simply best anticheat.

[@TheMetasora]

Chinese games don't have cheaters everyone knows that

[@RandomPP1]

Holy its you

[@papasalvo]

You know what I appreciate most about this game? ITS NOT FUCKING PITCH BLACK DARKNESS EVERYTIME YOU GO INDOORS. IDK how the hell people play tarkov on these dark ass maps. The moment you walk in doors it becomes fucking hide and go seek. They must all have their gamma/brightness CRANKED to the max to see a goddamn thing

[@MerkieMerk]

We do

[@carpelunam]

@@dbptwg yeah except you can literally look up videos of tarkov with corrected lighting and it looks nothing like how the game looks

[@itherealykb1317]

@@dbptwg that why they all using filters to see better in the dark lol

[@mr.absolute8556]

@@dbptwg you´re saying this as if anyone enjoyed being surprised by a rat in a pitch black corner. Everyone who plays tarkov messes with the nvidia light settings just so they dont have to equip a flashlight which is the equivalent of screaming "IM SWINGING" every time you turn a corner

[@FoxWJK]

@@itherealykb1317 different screens will help with that too, i have two different sceptre monitors both with stock settings and no filters and one is vastly superior at being able to see in the dark, the other one...... games pitch black

[@Klaisak]

I loved Cycle, so sad to see it gone :(

[@Gl0ckb1te]

I stupidly wanted to try it, but kept playing cod with friends so i never got the chance 😢

[@Hahahorde]

The thing I found most interesting in this video was the intellectual throwback to the thumbnail. Then you know you are watching high quality and intellectual honest content.

[@RandomFishtankClips]

For the solo vs teams issue I think they should just make it so if you queue up as a solo you are more likely to get into matches with teams of 2-3 max, while if you queue 4 man it tries to queue you against other 4 man teams but if it takes too long puts you in a game with mainly 2-3 man teams. You don't need an entirely different mode, just a backend matchmaking system that takes team size into account.

[@shampp5411]

People have so much time invested in tarkov that im not sure it will ever die. Ive learned a lot about tarkov and how hard I worked to improve is one of the reasons im so attached to it.

[@notsoanonymousmemes9455]

That's the definition of Stockholm Syndrome by the way, War Thunder does the same, you spend so much time into it that you can't drop it as you'd feel you wasted time and you don't want that so you keep playing, which by the way, it is a real manipulation technique to keep people hooked into something.

[@jacobwalker9287]

I agree, makes it all the more rewarding. When you watch guys like nogenerals and willerz play the game like it’s destiny 2 you start to realise it’s more of a skill issue. Cheaters aren’t as rampant as everyone wants to think, putting time into the game and not having an ego so you can actually learn and progress will make you enjoy the learning process more. I think Tarkov is a sweats game and it’s not designed for the people who want a casual hand holding experience. That being said I’m absolutely here for it as a wipe and a half Chimmy

[@shampp5411]

@@notsoanonymousmemes9455 no, it really isn't

[@shampp5411]

@@jacobwalker9287 im a few wipes in now and I was hooked after my first wipe.. being bad and poor only made me want to get better. To be able to take others down as they did me. It was pride and vengeance! Ill move on if another game can give me a better feeling but right now tarkov still offers me a great experience.

[@kpenis17]

@@shampp5411 i have yet to get to lvl 15 cuz i’m pretty casual, but starting raids with just a makarov or the machine pistol and picking up scav guns to get more kills, extracting feels amazing and it’s what makes me keep wanting to play

[@gyntergyntersen9998]

that shotgun reload animation shitting the bed was heavenly timed :D

[@OneTapKap]

I haven’t touched tarkov since i got accepted to play. People say no content even tho more than half the are not accessible yet due the fact its closed beta and theyre making sure people choose the intro maps to get a feel for the game, bugs, and what needs to be ready for full launch. This game is where tarkov was in prior to all the extensions to the maps

[@ToastySanwich]

Great choice in the BF2 Loading screen Music for the Chinese maps xD brings me back

[@SomeRandomObserver]

@3:55 was gold man.

[@crisnmaryfam7344]

Idk if gold covers it mane. Thats was priceless lawls.

[@Chris-jq8db]

"Objectively, it's better than Tarkov, at least in my opinion" 😂

[@TheSpudHunter]

; )

[@MrUnfamiliar]

Then it is subjectively....

[@TheRealFoop]

@@MrUnfamiliar /slowclap

[@casey4063]

Bro, you taking out 7 PMC in that raid was super fun to watch dude, nice job. I freaking love this game.

[@TheSpudHunter]

Cheers dude

[@mutelessmusic]

That Battlefield 2 soundtrack got me good there :) Awesome Vid as always! My contribution to the algorythm!

[@tragikomisk13]

Once again from my thorough viewing of this video, I can tell it is of the utmost quality! Very well done spuddy!

[@meister8023]

Arena Breakout in mobile 1.gun skins (It can be in a lucky draw form) 2. Knife (considered as cosmetic and it's always lucky draw) 3. Armor skins ( also gacha, but not separate, it will be always be accompanied by either gun skin, knife, or glove skin in the same gacha) 4. Glove skin (gacha too) 5. Battle pass: Free version: 1. Ammo 2. Guns 4. Nades 5. Headset (sometimes armor) 6. Battle pass points (it's like a ticket that u can exchange in the battlepass store u can exchange it for ammo, meds, armor, guns, and pre-made kits Paid version: 1. Gun skin 2. Clothes (cosmetic) 3. Premium battle pass store (same as free version but more) 4. ammo 5. guns 6. nades 7. Headset (sometimes armor) 8. Battle pass points (it's like a ticket that u can exchange in the battlepass store u can exchange it for ammo, meds, armor, guns, and pre-made kits 7. Secure case: 2x2, 2x3, and for the free version there's 1x2 ( the paid case is monthly paid ) 8. More storage (there's a grindable version) 9. Money exchange realmoney(bonds) to ingame money(koen) (I don't really use this because it's dumb I rather use my money to cosmetic) That's all I can remember btw the gun skins is not like cod gun skins with dragons and sh*t it's more like CS

[@lakthederg]

P2W stuff is items you buy to gain a direct advantage. how do gun skins give you one?

[@mtf-alpha-1]

@@lakthederg they dont they just look cool and thats it

[@dickelbrixjhonlague3235]

​@@lakthedergyou do realize that the guns and armour given in the paid version isn't an advantage in winning since you can also replicate the gun and in addition to it if you die with the gun(most likely if you don't have skill or little skill) you lose it its simply a free gun

[@crazy_annihilator6961]

@@dickelbrixjhonlague3235 the fact that you can just buy infite amounts of ingame money with real money makes it pay to win :)

[@dickelbrixjhonlague3235]

@@crazy_annihilator6961 and yet you still don't have tactical advantage since its only a financial advantage . you may say hey what about getting good gear,gun and ammo you can still lose it tho to people who are skilled or rats with dumdum

[@GravitasZero]

New Spuddy video, let's go!

[@highim4002]

good vid. watched the whole thing then commented and liked. nice1 spuddy

[@abuscemer185]

saving private ryan ahh fight 3:48

[@NorthInium]

What I liked seeing about ABI is that its optimized it runs well, no long queue times, actual sound that works and qol and a lot of it.

[@playerzero2236]

You get self revive kits from a faction contact in the mobile version. You guys on PC will have this, too. The mobile version is absolutely loaded, and if you haven't tried it you're in for a real treat when the full version is released

[@erickbad2000]

this game will not kill tarkov because you cant make money w/o paying irl and the most important thing - its not as solo friendly as tarkov. You are almost always fighting squads in ABI, in tarkov way more solo players. Those 2 reasons alone will hold the game back.

[@real_rsaNoob13]

Bro what, on mobile I'm a f2p player and I have 2 mil cash and 6 million storage value and I'm a casual 👀

[@FrosteryGaming]

"You can't make money without paying irl" Damn I can't believe I payed $0 to get 3 million koens. What a scam

[@dodgemyq3741]

I'm a solo bruh I have 10mil on my acct in mobile you can easily wipe a squad good rig and full kit guns high tier ammo and bring utility for a tactical advantage how you use it for your advantage utility are so usefull in this game if you go solo.... I don't engage when I'm in dis advantage I just extract and reset🤣🤣🤣

[@Trance4mason]

Sick and super slick vidjagamin journalism! Nice to see Simon got a cameo too! :D

[@placeholderchannelname9111]

Part of the fun of tarkov is the learning. I'm sure abi is better for some people but I still like the learning curve of tarkov.

[@Cramblit]

Reason tarkov players I think is calling it "dumbed down" because Tarkov isn't just a Milsim, its a movement sim too. The movement in Tarkov is actually extremely realistic. Put on all that pack of gear, and you will feel like you're running with a piano on your back irl after a short while if you're not used to it. Which is what the game is simulating. Breakout says "naw, that's just redundant and not important" and moves closer to a COD style movement, but with a tarkov gunplay, and I'm perfectly fine with that. The game IS essentially dumbed down movement wise, but it didn't go full send on COD movement, and kept a good fair balance between realistic, and COD, that makes the game just feel fluid, yet realistic.

[@spektri2297]

I dont know how you can say that Tarkov has realistic movement when you can get stuck on stuff on the ground you could easily just walk over. Get real simp

[@Parobro]

The bottomline is: in ABI I’m not fighting the game to play the game.

[@numka82]

RMT is really hampered in this game tho, which is very good. You cant drop trade, stuff gets returned via mail, you cant market cheese, there are floating caps that dont allow you to put item for more than x3 of its median or you will pay insane fees, theres no player to player trading. They will sell accounts tho, but its more cumbersome and people usually want convenience of stuff being in one place. People literally refuse to play games if they are not on steam, thats how much they like stuff being convenient.

[@thecaledonian7643]

I feel like your choice of "What's the Difference" during gameplay was pretty hilarious, intentional or not. Subbed

[@janisw6565]

Great vid, can't wait to try this game out!

[@Revixy]

"you're not the clown, you're the entire circus". 1:01

[@sonluns2482]

Very good! Let's wait for this game to come out and see what happens.

[@HRDMac97]

Another banger video spud, keep up the good work!

[@TheSpudHunter]

Cheers

[@harryjessell8427]

Thank you for making this video for me -Harry

[@SnrGoogle]

Great video. Keep them coming!!

[@MellowMentat9]

another banger vid. Thanks for being a consistently funny and entertaining legend. still wish you had more ammo for the 9 v 1. probably coulda pulled it off with that.

[@TheSpudHunter]

Was so close 😅

[@wuzhattenin]

Damn the BF2 song caught me offguard. Excellent video Spuddy becoming one of my favorite streamers and YTers

[@Tman2bard]

the funny thing is SPT has been doing the color ammo indicator to tell what's good or not for a long while, so to see Arena come out swinging with that is great. Hell, I might even try it... if I can get a copy that is. (Also, while I understand the soft language bit, it feels weird cuz the shellshock analogue was actually the opposite effect in a sense? It went from "Stop being a bitch, get over it" to "Hey, we actually kinda have to treat this, this is serious")

[@shawnhalls2431]

I would really like to argue a point, at 2:40 you mention that gun bros understand the game intuitively. As someone who was raised inside of the cash drawer of a gun store in America, Tarkov makes sense, until they literally don't actually follow the real world. So now the gun-nuts and marines have to UNLEARN everything they know to enjoy the game, and that in my opinion is harder than just learning which sci-fi space brand is better for which enemy type, RIP The Cycle: Frontier

[@christopherharris9018]

Arena Breakout is literally Tarkov light. You just get the jump spams and dumb shit signature of COD. Tarkov didn't catch people's eyes because of the extraction aspect, it's always been the realism and learning as you go. People always seem to forget that lol

[@NineTalez-NTF]

Min 7:25 so im not the only one turning his head away to avoid headshot in real life xD

[@MrSnstr86]

Awesome Spuddy!

[@kellywoods3950]

THE BATTLEFIELD 2 MUSIC LETS GO

[@Sherman105mm]

the game looks incredible in 4k as well

[@MrGodPowered]

spuddy forgetting about the femoral artery in his leg, thats why it didnt deal critical damage

[@minikilla3568]

Quick little thing about SPT is that you can download a mod that allows a compass with every available extraction and puts quest markers on it to tell you where to go. I always had chads carry and give me loot so I'm not the best. 2nd wipe I was way more capable on my own and actually got through quests. I just hate how you have to watch a 10 min video on where to go or extract. It's not like that for every quest but man do some of them suck

[@sondone]

I like video & it make me laugh. Thank you TheSpudHunter for good contentay!

[@TheSpudHunter]

Cheers

[@spectums]

Peasant version of tarkov feels so good

[@derekmcculloch3269]

Lovely stuff spuddy

[@vietnamesetoast6776]

This is making my funny bone crease yup.lol well done

[@babyfacebaddie]

Solo players are having same issues on the mobile version. A simplar solution would be to reduce the total number of players per team to 2 or 3 Effectively giving solo players a chance while not adding ques

[@DOSGRANDE]

Another banger spuddy

[@Cramblit]

Missed an opportunity for a 200 IQ title with "Breakout from Tarkov" Breakout from Tarkov as in "Breakout is from Tarkov because its a literally copy pasted version of it", which could of had some fun references in the video. Breakout from Tarkov as in "escape from Tarkov" which would of had some fun references to throw into the video as well. two ways to play off the title in the video for fun.

[@dbeast8005]

Bro thos content is 🔥

[@RO635mybeloved]

I actually played the mobile version of the game to actually get a feel for the Out of beta release of infinite the only problem for me was the whole "pay for high tier loot" thing, and the shitty optimization. Players who play F2P has a lot of disadvantages compared to players who pay for most of their gear. I shit you not, i got killed by a level 15 player in lockdown who paid for his gear with Tier 6 ammo, armor, and high tier gun. Barely anyone in that level has 1 mil let alone have koens to splurge that much koens. Heck most level 30's I see even wear tier 3 gear since splurging that much for gear is dumb as hell when you could just get shot by a rat with an Mp5. While i a level 25 player with 2 mil with tier 4 gear which costs around 120k. Kitting tier six costs around 800k. The game is absolutely fucked. The community is even worse since they're saying this isn't pay to win. Barely anyone I play with who's a free to play rarely survives a match from either tier 6 P2W's or some sniper with a mosin magically headshoting you despite doing the serpentine maneuver whilet sprinting. There's a reason why most Level 30's in the game play using tier4 and below since some cheater or some bloke who paid his way to success. The only reason most players continue on this sisyphian task is because they want to get rich in game and to alleviate the whole broke in real life thing. The game is going to be absolutely pay to win the moment it goes out of CBT. Considering what tencent did to squad it wouldn't be surprising.

[@BloxyBarbossa]

I would say most tier 6s are good free to plays since buying gear with money is a really bad deal since as u said mosin or mp5 with dum dum gets u

[@tomasvaclavek436]

I got ads on Dune 2 😂 such a coincidence. I just sometimes lurk on your Twitch but you made me watch both films. 👍

[@johndoe-is2fw]

spud uploads, I watch

[@angeemmanuelassassindri8090]

Dude I fcking dreamt about your video, a feeling of deja vu, right from 2:30 to 2:35.

[@ennou1236]

16:11 they should rename tha game to "Welcome to Kamona"

[@Pummage1]

For the engagement, let's goooooo!

[@Melchizidek777]

RIP the cycle.... had so much fun playing it with my wife for hours... id pay a lot of money to bring it back.

[@kakashi4949]

Lol great stuff. I haven't played it myself but it's also awesome to watch xD.

[@IITACKLEBERRYII]

China Loading Theme from Battlefield 2 😂😂

[@DavidCastro-df1ii]

I may check it out once we see how oppressive the RMTeamers are

[@heuvel8691]

The shill for chinese party had me laugh out loud so hard. Gold.

[@wojakthegreat6042]

IMPORTANT THING TO ADD!! - there most likely won't be a lockdown/forbidden for every single map. They will have different modes for each map. For example - on mobile, farm and valley don't even have forbidden option and the TV station is only available IN A lockdown mode. It doesn't have normal, maybe it has forbidden i didn't check. But there are other modes that are easier for solos and lots more ways to earn money when the full game releases. We are missing 90% of the content in this game honestly. The maps and modes are everything aswell as the rest of equipments, weapons etc. There is so much to come that i fear when we get it, it will be a sensory overload lmao

[@FunkyGOAT]

A pc version coming? I'm playing this game on my iPad since the beginning! I'm IN!

[@0rphros]

Plus one for the Spud

[@FrenShapedLis]

I cant forgive them failing cycle frontier, it was such a good game

[@uriahg4222]

is that final doom music?

[@dankman239]

this game looks fun af , cant wait to play it lol

[@jommama1220]

Don't care for shooters at all just here for Spud production

[@paddyyy_]

+1000 Credits have been added to your Social Score.

[@vaxisme]

Absolute legend.

[@xmapa4677]

If you keep listening to Pestily, after what you showed he says "but I got bored of it in 3 days, and there's nothing to keep you playing" (paraphrased). That's coming from a guy that has been playing almost nothing but Tarkov for 7 years, amassing over 10,000 hours (Idk his axtual hour count, I just know the biggest names sit around 12,000 Hours these days)

[@TheSpudHunter]

True, but I think maps and all that comes with time. Most new releases don't even have a good foundation of PvP and game mechanics and meander trying to make it work. It would be interesting to see if they catch up or not, might be a fart in the wind. Find out soon

[@81gsmokie16]

Also some guy commented somewhere in this video stating that about 90% of the game is missing, since its fully out on mobile, not sure how true that is.

[@cherrymaygalicia2722]

⁠​⁠@@81gsmokie16oh its definetly true you know whats funny abi was just the pc version of ab from mobile amd i can tell the reason they made abi is because the mobile was their first game in mobile that actually made actual cut than the rest of the mobile extraction games(in mobile becuase ive seen the other extractgames here and there not fun as ab) and due to its rising popularity in ab mobile also have with its discord and such, that it basiclly pulled a green flag for them to implement the game for pc Ps: you can play tarkov if you like but if where going to point something and that ab is very forgiving to the casual gamers and tarkov is for the sweat like ive seen enough of the game vid that the big issue as casual player is it dont forgive players that dont stip grinding despite the constant wipe and it hinders people that are casual to play it on the other hand ab(expierence mostly in mobile) is very fun like tarkov but it wont wipe your stuff progress and most definetly casual friendly the paying part of the games is mostly on cosmetic, pass, case, storage, and keon but it dont not mean it hinders the game, yuoll most certainly still have the upper hand because it requered skill due to its access to the market and ammo that you have a fine chance on fighting high geared player My tip: if you want to rat and being cheap then either use mp5 or uzi with dumdum rounds or shotgun with stronger bulletes its up to you if you argue because this is all from my mobile experience

[@TLTwithoutTEA]

I fear what private data this game collects without our knowledge.

[@marusgoren9977]

The best revenge is success...

[@TheSpudHunter]

There is no revenge, the sun rises, the sun falls.

[@ev1lazy]

ABI has no soul

[@Assailant86]

The only thing Tarkov still does undeniably better is map design and RPG like character progression. Also PvE mode. Until ABI gets some sort of character progression other than just better gear. It won't *kill* EFT. However it still has a solid place in the genre for those that like a less challenging extraction shooter.

[@Breeze954]

12:00 Great point about pay to win

[@playerzero2236]

The only thing that annoys me about AB is the fact you tank your stamina after running for 30 seconds. As former military and ultra runner this is a little annoying, like why does my character have the stamina of an incel thats never been outside for more than 5 minutes

[@po4ti4to]

про путятишну и гольф-кары прям хорошо!

[@simonredcsgo]

They said also in the interview there will be pay for convinience so isnt that pay 2 win in a nutshell?

[@TheSpudHunter]

Yep

[@timmcgee8380]

Yeah i agree, this pay for convenience garbage is just cope. If you take 2 identical players and apply "pay for convenience" to one its very clearly pay to win.

[@tasktale6492]

"Copy the entire game" huh I won't be too sure of that tough.

[@NobleNemesis]

Looks like an okay game

[@papasalvo]

Honestly if this game uses the drop in/out system that the cycle did. Has better performance/movement/anti cheat, more quality of life things (all the information you need about the game IS IN THE FUCKING GAME) and either removes or lessens the bullshit grind of getting your character higher ability stats they will absolutely eat tarkovs lunch

[@TheSneezz]

Whats the name of the game? xD couldnt find any escape from shanghai on google

[@danielmiller5277]

Arena Breakout: Infinite, its on steam, but its not released yet.

[@colezeller4861]

I miss the cycle frontier go sign the petition to bring it back yall

[@nothingtoaddhere11]

when people gonna play ABI, they gonna say, i want to play a real game, a better game, a game that gives satisfaction when you kill someone and extract, a game that gives you adrenaline, this game is ESCAPE FROM TARKOV

[@MrBlackZcamaro]

The only thing that will kill Tarkov is Tarkov, but having competition is pretty neat.

[@_skywalk]

omegalol fawking legend best streamer

[@purearisen9545]

BRING THE CYCLE BACK 😭

[@RandomUsernameAppearsInChat]

是的我的公司花钱雇佣我让这个人制作这个视频

[@K4G-117]

Quality

[@The_Riot]

I know what you mean that it feels weird playing a game blatantly ripping off EFT. On one hand I don’t like voting for a rip-off that could turn around doing micro transactions, but on the other hand it wouldn’t be seeing any of the success that it has if BSG actually had some good rapport with their player base instead of fleecing them and ignoring them. It is what it is love your stuff Spud.

[@wojakthegreat6042]

AB:I WILL be huge for the extraction/looter shooter community. Tarkov will suffer greatly from this game. Mark my words - AB:I will suck every last casual player, every new player who doesn't want to spend monecy to get into extraction games, and because of this, the competitives and sweats will have to move if they want to continue stomping timmies day in and day out, BSG loses. The consumers win.

[@bob890119]

Love me some Spuddy vidya on the KZbins

[@blobbb]

RMT will have a much harder time here. You can't extract with a team mate's loot.

[@thomas_shelby106]

I just subscribed coz youre fun Joji

[@julianleft4662]

Both EFT and ABI are p2w. But if one has easier entry access, deals with cheaters better and is, overall, a better gaming experience, then I really don't give a fuck as long as I don't reach a stage where I say "ah, that guy won because he paid". I'm gonna play the monetization that smells less like shit and might actually be tasty. Yuck. But it is what it is, you get the memo. ABI gamers are real gamers. Speaking of which, how many of those hardcore EFT mechanics actually reward casual players and paying? Yeah.... few people touch on that aspect but they dooooooo loooooovveeee to milk the "but EFT is much more hardcore". There's a reason bad FPS players YOU know IRL are better at EFT than in other FPS titles, including ABI. Because the more a game is broken, slower, clunkier, with shittier servers and netocde, that rewards ratting and camping to a ridiculous degree, the better the average 500ms react player will do :) But we don't talk about that because "EFT hardcore"... What EFT has left at this point is atmosphere and Lineage-level of grind. That's it. If you enjoy those, kudos to you brother.