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[TAS] New (Ultra) Shortcut on Moonview Highway

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Monster

Monster

Күн бұрын

With enough sideways momentum given from Superhopping and Supergrinding, this shortcut becomes achievable.
The shortcut itself doesn't save much time, but we can start a Supergrind upon landing back to the track which saves around 0.4~0.6 seconds (this is what makes this shortcut faster).
For reference, the estimated Fast Lap time for No Ultra using 3 shrooms is around 30.650, so Ultra would be still faster by 0.24.
Also, the shortcut is classified as an Ultra Shortcut (the 26th one discovered in Mario Kart Wii) because it skips the KeyCheckPoint 1.
I must thank the following people:
Jellopuff for providing the concept of using sideways momentum for distance, and for being the first to pull off the shortcut ( • New Ultra Longcut on M... ),
Charlie who gave me an idea using Outward Drifting Bike ( • bypass ),
and Ejay for his help on making the shortcut faster and his original idea on ODB wall clip.
Jellpuff: / @jellopuff1530
Charlie: / @charl1e
Ejay: / @ejayb

Пікірлер: 127
@EjayB
@EjayB Жыл бұрын
The idea to supergrind upon landing from the KCP1 skip is genius. Absolutely amazing work being the first to pull this off, and thank you for making 2023 even more memorable.
@gotyrase1753
@gotyrase1753 11 ай бұрын
A little question I have: A human can pull off this ultra shortcut or it is TAS only?
@EjayB
@EjayB 11 ай бұрын
@@gotyrase1753 TAS only, because of the rapid-fire hopping required
@gotyrase1753
@gotyrase1753 11 ай бұрын
@@EjayB Oh, well in this case we need to find a way to have a humanly possible ultra.Thanks for responding.
@lowercaseletters_
@lowercaseletters_ Жыл бұрын
ANOTHER ULTRA SHORTCUT HAS BEEN DISCOVERED THIS YEAR. Nice work on this TAS and discovery! This has been an insane year for TASing and TTing.
@brandonm1708
@brandonm1708 Жыл бұрын
Have you counted how many that is this year?
@lowercaseletters_
@lowercaseletters_ Жыл бұрын
@@brandonm1708 Four
@brandonm1708
@brandonm1708 Жыл бұрын
@@lowercaseletters_ summoning salt is gonna have a hay day with this
@Nico2718_
@Nico2718_ Жыл бұрын
Damn, finally the MH ultra! Also this opens a gate in case in the future a "no lap count" cut is found on this track, considering you also still have a shroom to spare... And now the special cup is the 3rd cup to have all tracks with an ultra!
@dm2483
@dm2483 Жыл бұрын
This is so cool. I'm really glad that the SG from landing after the kcp 1 skip was fast enough to save time to actually make it a shortcut. And with this as well, special cup is done. It's crazy to me how the cup basically went from having no ultras to being very broken in less than half of the game's lifespan. Really nice work on this and congrats on getting the 26th ultra! I do also wonder if a SG up the hill after the toll road (similar to the SG up the first rDS hill) would be faster since you'd be at a higher speed before hitting the third boost panel there and could maybe carry the EV with SHing around the next corner. It wouldn't make the ultra faster than no ultra, but still would be interesting to look into
@Kierio04
@Kierio04 Жыл бұрын
This was so crazy to see happen. Ejay and Charlie both coming up with the exact same idea within a month of each other, Jellopuff pulling off a crazy KCP4 skip which unfortunately wasn’t useful, then proving the KCP1 skip to be possible with bullet bike, then monster coming in circling back to make it possible with ODB, then monster finding the landing SG, which changed everything we had thought about this. The actual “shortcut” part of the ultra loses time, it’s the supergrind that saves time - so strange yet so cool. Amazing flap monster.
@Watcha_
@Watcha_ Жыл бұрын
is there a video of the KCP4 skip?
@petery6432
@petery6432 Жыл бұрын
Wait, so that actual shortcut doesn't save time, but rather it's the only way to set up into a good supergrind?
@Kierio04
@Kierio04 Жыл бұрын
@@petery6432 yes!
@CHARL1E
@CHARL1E Жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing. I never would have guessed this could happen, but boy am I not surprised it was you who could do it, you have to be one of the most talented TASers of our time. Well done!
@spriterocks03
@spriterocks03 Жыл бұрын
^^
@beanzard64
@beanzard64 Жыл бұрын
This game continues to amaze us all, 15 years later. Amazing find!!
@Jellopuff_TAS
@Jellopuff_TAS Жыл бұрын
さすがMonster。You never cease to amaze me!
@spriterocks03
@spriterocks03 Жыл бұрын
Truthful statement right there
@campbellblock3061
@campbellblock3061 Жыл бұрын
122 SG OP
@spriterocks03
@spriterocks03 Жыл бұрын
How was this comment 14 hrs ago if the video was made like 4 hrs ago
@Oliver-b7j
@Oliver-b7j Жыл бұрын
​@@spriterocks03 🤔
@spriterocks03
@spriterocks03 Жыл бұрын
@@Oliver-b7j on my phone it does say it
@Oliver-b7j
@Oliver-b7j Жыл бұрын
@@spriterocks03 Same. Presumably the video was unlisted/private a few hours prior
@campbellblock3061
@campbellblock3061 Жыл бұрын
@@Oliver-b7j yes
@duck___e
@duck___e Жыл бұрын
i didn’t expect this one to have an ultra. well done on the 26th ultra! the special cup has been fully glitched! this year is frickin’ insane!!
@Clement_XR
@Clement_XR Жыл бұрын
The community thought that MMM was the last track to have an ultra, a this point, we will get 31/32 ultra one day (because rMC3 is like impossible)
@louiswolfe5012
@louiswolfe5012 Жыл бұрын
Literally You would need to find a way to go through that invisible wall to have a chance Not happening
@noahcheng1895
@noahcheng1895 Жыл бұрын
@@louiswolfe5012 I think Ayush The Explainer will be the first to discover the ultra.
@nobu9137
@nobu9137 Жыл бұрын
スティック痙攣してて草
@thebestworst8002
@thebestworst8002 Жыл бұрын
I’m telling you, one day, every track will have an ultra. Even SNES MC3
@ericdanielski4802
@ericdanielski4802 Жыл бұрын
Nice TAS.
@JGB_iw
@JGB_iw Жыл бұрын
so glad it ended up being faster excellent work as always, extremely based g fucking g
@danielchillis7878
@danielchillis7878 Жыл бұрын
Wow, nice ultra shortcut, and that was quick, monster!
@UtterlyNotLiam
@UtterlyNotLiam Жыл бұрын
BRO, ALL THE NITROS IN THE GAME NOW HAVE A GLITCH/ULTRA NOW, THIS IS HUGE (fun fact: SNES Mario Circuit 3 is now the only track in the game to not have a glitch shortcut that actually saves time and yes im counting the spiral turn wallclip skip thing in rDS as a glitch)
@soulofthemedley
@soulofthemedley Жыл бұрын
wanna know what’s better than 25? 26.
@KaiMK
@KaiMK Жыл бұрын
amazing ultra
@ericdanielski4802
@ericdanielski4802 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@spriterocks03
@spriterocks03 Жыл бұрын
🙂
@vincenzofranchelli2201
@vincenzofranchelli2201 Жыл бұрын
Toad Factory (has glitch) DK Summit (has glitch) STAR CUP COMPLETE SPECIAL CUP COMPLETE SHELL CUP COMPLETE DS Delfino Square (has glitch) GCN Mario Circuit (has glitch) SNES Mario Circuit 3 (superhopping) GCN DK Mountain (has glitch)
@Flourish38
@Flourish38 Жыл бұрын
also worth noting that GCN Mario Circuit already has an ultra longcut. Doesn't count, but still
@saunaboi4910
@saunaboi4910 Жыл бұрын
Yet another ultra, they just keep on coming. We'll see if this is the end lol
@Luskel
@Luskel Жыл бұрын
4TH ULTRA OF 2023, WHAT IS THIS YEAR
@UtterlyNotLiam
@UtterlyNotLiam Жыл бұрын
and 3rd ultra of april
@almosttwd98
@almosttwd98 Жыл бұрын
@@UtterlyNotLiam The Bowser's Castle ultra shortcut was discovered in February.
@UtterlyNotLiam
@UtterlyNotLiam Жыл бұрын
@@almosttwd98 what i meant was that it was the third ultra to be made public in april, i know when the ultra was discovered
@spriterocks03
@spriterocks03 Жыл бұрын
Super fun to watch
@ClosedDoor35
@ClosedDoor35 Жыл бұрын
Is this the most ultras discovered in one year?! Amazing stuff, I did not expect this at all.
@Wikcan
@Wikcan Жыл бұрын
Most ultra shortcuts yeah this is a new record, most ultra shortcuts and longcuts it’s tied with 2021 and 2019
@atlafan7364
@atlafan7364 Жыл бұрын
This is getting ridiculous, honestly didn’t know if there were more after rYF Good lord
@masa_dayo
@masa_dayo 5 ай бұрын
タイヤの方向と進む方向がずっと一致してないの草
@FalB27
@FalB27 Жыл бұрын
This might be the lamest ultra in the game and it's funny
@jacobboydtabletennis9966
@jacobboydtabletennis9966 Жыл бұрын
Just wow!
@chinko2honhaetekita
@chinko2honhaetekita Жыл бұрын
SCの内容よりSPEED122が気になる🤔
@Oliver-b7j
@Oliver-b7j Жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same
@user-ud1pv6jx6j
@user-ud1pv6jx6j Жыл бұрын
supergrindingではないでしょうか
@oftenda
@oftenda Жыл бұрын
上の人英語に対して指摘してんのかと思った
@natlus_
@natlus_ Жыл бұрын
i think it’s because of the downwards slope
@natlus_
@natlus_ Жыл бұрын
@@Oliver-b7j basically, the speed cap is capped with iv+ev* (this is vector addition so it doesn’t always add up like normal addition) but there is another velocity measure connected to the kcl i think that you can use to reach 120+ speed (in this case i think it’s because of gravity)
@SpeedersFan55
@SpeedersFan55 Жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD THIS IS THE THIRD ULTRA OF APRIL
@almosttwd98
@almosttwd98 Жыл бұрын
The Bowser's Castle ultra shortcut was discovered in February.
@Sylvauraa
@Sylvauraa Жыл бұрын
jesus christ all that is left is snes mario circuit 3 for any sort of glitch shortcut. this is impressive.
@Wikcan
@Wikcan Жыл бұрын
Nice
@ericdanielski4802
@ericdanielski4802 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@joshkidvr
@joshkidvr 11 ай бұрын
he’s super hopping then super grinding
@gdglokk3886
@gdglokk3886 Жыл бұрын
6 LEFT.
@bmg18
@bmg18 Жыл бұрын
absolutely insane
@TF2Starlight
@TF2Starlight Жыл бұрын
OMG HOLY SHIT the mkwii renaissaance continues
@Oliver-b7j
@Oliver-b7j Жыл бұрын
This is absolutely genius
@elboyouc2
@elboyouc2 Жыл бұрын
Why is this game the way it is
@Vuxzlo
@Vuxzlo Жыл бұрын
INSANE ULTRA!
@MKWilliam
@MKWilliam Жыл бұрын
I love this because it's really cool but also looks kinda goofy
@SpeedersFan55
@SpeedersFan55 Жыл бұрын
THERE IT IS THE 26th ULTRA
@NateTheOhioan
@NateTheOhioan 4 ай бұрын
Wait so you’re telling me a corner cut is an ultra shortcut?
@RobertMcKinnonMainChannel
@RobertMcKinnonMainChannel Жыл бұрын
やった!
@Merlinistisch
@Merlinistisch Жыл бұрын
4 ultras in April already, what else will this year bring?
@UtterlyNotLiam
@UtterlyNotLiam Жыл бұрын
a new summoning salt video
@louiswolfe5012
@louiswolfe5012 Жыл бұрын
​@@UtterlyNotLiam No. Not yet Not until every one (besides rMC3) has an ultra shortcut That's MARIO KART WII for ya Whata monster of an ultra ... Read more
@almosttwd98
@almosttwd98 Жыл бұрын
The Bowser's Castle ultra shortcut was discovered in February.
@Merlinistisch
@Merlinistisch Жыл бұрын
@@almosttwd98 I know
@almosttwd98
@almosttwd98 Жыл бұрын
@@Merlinistisch There were two ultra shortcuts discovered last month, not three.
@Ragemodepigeon
@Ragemodepigeon Жыл бұрын
new ultra every week lmao
@reiner_13
@reiner_13 Жыл бұрын
🐐
@firehood9426
@firehood9426 Жыл бұрын
No car wallclipping :( cool tas though
@UtterlyNotLiam
@UtterlyNotLiam Жыл бұрын
@SummoningSalt now that all the Nitro tracks in the game now have a glitch, WHERE IS PART 3??
@Oliver-b7j
@Oliver-b7j Жыл бұрын
TF and DKS dont
@Wikcan
@Wikcan Жыл бұрын
@@Oliver-b7j nah he’s talking about shortcuts in general not ultra shortcuts
@UtterlyNotLiam
@UtterlyNotLiam Жыл бұрын
@@Oliver-b7j im talking abt glitches, not ultra shortcuts
@flurry_nt
@flurry_nt Жыл бұрын
bonkers supergrinds
@kotakan138
@kotakan138 Жыл бұрын
ちょっとだけサンドリっぽいのしてて草
@FireflamedGD
@FireflamedGD Жыл бұрын
If that same bounce was done humanely on rainbow road, could this shortcut also be done humanely? I think someone could at least get close
@ClosedDoor35
@ClosedDoor35 Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing it would be a lot slower since it's the shooting star and you'd have to drive the rest of the track afterwards.
@FireflamedGD
@FireflamedGD Жыл бұрын
@@ClosedDoor35 it could be a new category even if it's longer, or at least to see if it can be done
@dznutskong
@dznutskong Жыл бұрын
No, this jump was barely possible even with supergrinding which humans can't do to begin with
@FireflamedGD
@FireflamedGD Жыл бұрын
@@dznutskongyou're right, I guess I forgot there was a supergrind into it
@mightyhead4962
@mightyhead4962 Жыл бұрын
6 left 👀
@Luckerbtw
@Luckerbtw Жыл бұрын
in the mother of gods
@MkwiiBen
@MkwiiBen Жыл бұрын
Idek what to say anymore, just ridiculous
@evbevbeats
@evbevbeats Жыл бұрын
Why not
@glitchg14
@glitchg14 Жыл бұрын
woah
@Nagi_R-ve1qy
@Nagi_R-ve1qy Жыл бұрын
何が起きてるんだw
@chrispollack6215
@chrispollack6215 Жыл бұрын
mc3 when
@mkw_andre
@mkw_andre Жыл бұрын
WHAT
@user-vf6br2me1i
@user-vf6br2me1i Жыл бұрын
こいつどのゲームでもぴょんぴょんしてんな…
@caseysunderland4927
@caseysunderland4927 Жыл бұрын
You had more than 120 speed. Whats that about
@EjayB
@EjayB Жыл бұрын
You can bypass the 120 speed lock when the body of your vehicle (not the wheels) interacts with the road in a certain way, which is most notably achievable when supergrinding.
@BaIlZack
@BaIlZack Жыл бұрын
I DON'T ACCEPT THIS AS AN ULTRA BUT IT IS COOL
@Wikcan
@Wikcan Жыл бұрын
It is an ultra though
@soulofthemedley
@soulofthemedley Жыл бұрын
it is faster than no glitch flap lmao
@SlanderMonkey
@SlanderMonkey Жыл бұрын
Watfeck
@ITxMik
@ITxMik Жыл бұрын
i can’t even
@tribitx
@tribitx Жыл бұрын
Gyat
@チンチン弄りたい
@チンチン弄りたい Жыл бұрын
Super Grindingって技やったっけ?
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