Tascam Model 12 - Bouncing Tracks (mixdown sum and track swap)

[@carlodave9]

Best tutorial vid on the T12. Simple, no jabber, just the facts. LOVE IT!

[@AndySalinger33]

Glenn, I can’t possibly thank you enough for this video! You’ve taught me, in 2 minutes and 14 seconds, precisely what I was failing to grasp. You’re a fine man. Subbed. Cheers!

[@GlennThomasTech]

Thanks so much!

[@ufopilotFPV]

Certainly easier than sending all channels out via sub and back in to bounce down in real time (although i may still do it that way if i need to make fader moves etc during the mix). Useful to know how to move tracks so quickly too.. i dont have to unplug cables anymore ! Thanks for this vid

[@williamjeffreys2980]

This was super-helpful! Thank you. This filled in a few blanks the manual covered, but not perhaps in the most effective way.

[@GlennThomasTech]

Great! So glad it was helpful!

[@ericseaman542]

Thanks for making a quick/consice video. Totally answered my question. Great job!

[@GlennThomasTech]

Glad it was helpful!

[@ericseaman542]

Tascam should hire you dude!

[@ericseaman542]

I'm a proud subscriber!!!

[@GlennThomasTech]

Thanks Eric! I appreciate that!

[@ManCalledMif]

Love this short form information on Tascam model 12. I guess this makes to possible to keep overdubbing recordings 🎉

[@GlennThomasTech]

Yes! The tascam is great for doing multi track recording. It’s not without its quirks, but certainly is good!! Thanks for watching!

[@randomrider5219]

this is a great video. Thank you!

[@GlennThomasTech]

Glad it was helpful!

[@aidenmcnatt6113]

OMG this is such great news thanks

[@tom22333]

Thx Glenn!

[@JakeStrange66]

Hmmm...so I could record 8 tracks, & combine them to one stereo channel. I wonder if I can record more tracks & then combine those onto the other stereo channel to get even more tracks. Most of my music is pretty basic punk/hard rock & I've only ever overdubbed guitar & vocals, so it's not even necessary for me. That's why i got the 12 instead of the 16 or 24...but I'm gonna try that tomorrow just to see what I can do. That's awesome. I didn't even know about that... Thanks

[@GlennThomasTech]

Yes it's great! You can build up quite a lot of tracks!! Have fun!!

[@JakeStrange66]

Like I said, I don't do a lot of different tracks; just overdubs of guitar & vocal tracks. But this might give it an even fuller sound because before I had been recording on a Tascam 424mkiii that uses cassette tapes. 😂 So it was very limited ​@@GlennThomasTech

[@JakeStrange66]

​@@GlennThomasTech🤔 hmm... I've tried it, even watching along with the video to be sure I'm doing it right, but it's not working. I've tried it 3 times now & it's not doing it. I may have to try something else.

[@JakeStrange66]

Ok... that's weird AF.... It kind of worked... I guess. For some reason it put them on channel 3 ?!?!? Wow

[@raymondhavlicek6643]

Excellent

[@hailnaryproductionz3661]

Do you have any idea 💡 to make the mix a loud analog mix ??

[@phanatiksent]

Can the Tascam Model 12 mixer control Luna?

[@linguistbrightosei1488]

Thanks bro❤️

[@TeleporterM11]

Glen - Can multiple individual tracks be bounced to the internal storage to transfer to the desktop via usb.

[@GlennThomasTech]

If I understand your question - in theory, you can bounce back tracks - summing them together until you run out of tracks to use as the “clean track. ” But I think you’d end up with summed tracks on the SD too. Hope that helps!

[@Matt_Eckstine_Music]

Thanks for this video - When you bounce 11/12 back to 9/10.... It is not letting me "Stereo Mix Export" How do you get this off the machine though the SD card as a Wav? I am trying to avoid using a daw all together for bouncing band rehearsals to wav files. I am gettin an error message that says "Main File error"

[@authenticoriginal1564]

I am having the same issue and error message, have you been able to figure out what the issue was yet by chance?

[@GlennThomasTech]

Sorry for the delay on this! To stereo export the mix there needs to be content on the main buss (11/12) so that said, after you have done all our bounce backs, added all the tracks you want, and mixed the sound as you like, you must then record your final mix back onto 11/12 by pressing record and letting the song play back with no tracks armed. From there you should be able to export your stereo mix! If there is a reason you don’t want your final mix on the main buss, you should be able to pull the “final” track out of the 10/11 folder from within the MTR folder on the SD card. Hopefully this helps! Thanks for watching!

[@authenticoriginal1564]

​@@GlennThomasTech What are the chances of a video walking through how to set up the M12 to route back to the daw with the same tracks that were routed to it from the daw? I use Logic Pro, Pro Fools, and Ableton pretty regularly, so I understand that the daw may be the limiting factor for routing signal in some cases. Honestly, I saw a cool video Recording & Mixing With Solid State Logic's BiG SiX Desktop ...www.youtube.com › watch › v=89pElzLfEYs on the SSL Big Six being able to route signal back to a channel of the daw more like a traditional console does, but through USB, and I have to believe that the M12 can use the same workflow with the "USB" routing back into the daw "post-eq" right? I understand the value of getting the dry signal to the daw for editing and processing in most cases (when using it as an interface anyway), but I am also interested in using the M12 eq and compression to send signal back into the daw wet sometimes. I see the option in "mixer" to change the send point, so I think I am close. I just cannot diffuse those last few synapse in my brain to make it come alive, lol. I have been like a mad scientist in my little studio trying to figure out signal flow and how to best route the individual channels from my daw, through the mixer to process, and back into the daw for further processing and summing. Thanks for any help you can provide on that man, and thanks for the great content!

[@GlennThomasTech]

@@authenticoriginal1564 Really cool idea for sure! Are you thinking something like what i did in the reamp video - where i sent a channel out of ableton into the tascam and then back into ableton on another track? I LOVE doing that - so much to be had there! So many cool possibilities for processing This is the video i'm talking about: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoXdi3aZp5WehJY IF that's not what you're saying, can you elaborate more? I don't believe it's possible to both send out to a channel on the tascam, and record back the changes from EQ and compression on the SAME channel ... but now you're making me wonder!! I'll be looking into that for sure! That would be amazing if it works! I too have been a mad scientist with this thing ever since I picked it up! I love the model 12 and have had so much fun with it recently! another thing i do is tie mine in with another fully analog sound board for more mixing fun! As you've worked with the Model 12, what's been some of the bigger confusions, question,s or pain points, around it? I'm considering doing a more structured video series on the M12 and would love some feedback that way! Thanks for watching! Let's keep some conversation going! 👍

[@GlennThomasTech]

@@authenticoriginal1564 Also - here's a short I did on the recording taps thing - kzbin.info/www/bejne/inqbfoCagrOZfNE You're spot on with that!

[@gionatanscali]

Hey Glenn, I cannot hear the master sum tracks on the actual 9/10 why? also, it seems not actually swapped on my SD CARD as the track number 9/10 is empty. anyone can help pls?

[@GlennThomasTech]

It seems that perhaps either- 1. It didn’t actually get swapped back to 9/10 or 2. The input switch perhaps is not set to MTR. Check those thing and see if one of those is at fault. Good luck!

[@saddamali666]

very helpful. maybe you can tell me if i have any option besides track swap to record a second guitar track. i'd rather not have move the first guitar track's plug but i don't see any way to route it. thank you

[@GlennThomasTech]

Unfortunately I think moving where it's plugged in or doing a track swap is all you've got as options unless your using a splitter cable or something!

[@tylergates4075]

Is there a way to duplicate a project before doing this? In case I do all this bouncing and dont like the result for whatever reason, can go back and fix something ?

[@GlennThomasTech]

Great question, Tyler! There isn't a function on the model 12 itself to duplicate a file or song - but hook it up to your computer in storage mode (or take the SD card and put it into your computer) and you should be able to open the MTR folder and duplicate things in there! The Tascam won't see the duplicated song because it didn't create it, but should something go a direction you don't like, you should be able to copy files back into the original song folder... hopefully that makes sense and is helpful! Good luck and enjoy recording!! 🙂

[@bobpike8050]

The Main Bus on my Model 12 stopped recording tracks 1-10 when I hit record so I have no main bus. I have checked all the message boards and triple checked everything.: PFL/AFL, mute, MTR, Main buttons, Faders, Solo, etc.) Could I have tripped something in the menu? I would greatly appreciate some help.

[@AlexBalman]

how to control the reaper with the Tascam Model 16?

[@GlennThomasTech]

You should be able to used the DAW Control mode to do it - I can't specifically answer the HOW part right now because I generally don't us DAW Control Mode. Thanks for watching!

[@guitarcrap4523]

when bouncing tracks 1-8 over to 11/12.. does it always record (sum/bounce) everything on tracks 1-8, or can I, say, not have whats on tracks 7&8 be included in the bounce to 11/12? i heard that just pulling down the faders on 7&8 wouldn't work if theres something recorded on them. -is this true? said another way, if i have tracks 1-8 full of material, but just want to bounce/sum tracks 1-6 together (without including whats on 7 & 8) is that possible, and how would you do that?

[@scooynilo]

I think if you just mute them they aren't be recorded

[@ufopilotFPV]

Yes, you can unpress the 'main' button on any channel you don't want to bounce - it won't send that track through and the recording won't include it.

[@user-wf9wq9kq6u]

Hi, would it be possible to swap a track without before doing a mixdown. ie track 7/8 to tracks 1 and 2. Thanks!

[@ufopilotFPV]

Yes, tascam lets you move any tracks anywhere you want, pretty cool !

[@stefankoller7454]

How can I cut the song in the front or in the back a little bit off. Every time I some it sums the whole thing

[@GlennThomasTech]

The best way is to do that in mastering in a DAW. To my knowledge, it can’t be done on the mixer itself. I’ll let you know if I find out otherwise! Happy creating!

[@zeynalhuseynov1415]

Does it work as a real multitrack audio interface? Ho many channels?

[@GlennThomasTech]

It does! 10 tracks plus summed mains 11/12

[@zeynalhuseynov1415]

@@GlennThomasTech , Thanks for replying

[@sCealt]

Hey hey! Looking into buying the model 12, just one thing isn't clear to me looking at manual and forums: is the SD/DAW recording post-fader? can i do a mixdown and move channel faders and it'll be recorded on 11/12 or on each channel or is it all pre-fader? either way this looks like such an amazing piece of gear. Thanks for this video!

[@GlennThomasTech]

Great question! Sorry for the delay! Yes, recording to 11/12 is postfader! That enables you to "mix" your song down to a final stereo file. The Tascam is such a great desk! Happy Recording!

[@joelpoitras6226]

TThanks! Question! Can we bounce the content of certain tracks to 9/10? I mean, let's say i recorded instruments on track 1,2,3,4 and then, an acoustic drumset, 4 mics on 4 tracks ( Tracks 5,6,7,8). Can i bounce my drum mix of tracks 5,6,7,8 onto 9/10 as a stereo mix? Just to free up 5, 6, 7, 8 so i can add more instruments on them and have them new intruments play in sync with my previous intrument tracks1-4? So i would have tracks 1-8 with instruments and my drums on 9/10?. And everything playing in sync?

[@GlennThomasTech]

Yes! The way to do this would be to record the drums, then sum them to the master buss -11/12. Do this by playing them back and recording it to the mains WHILE having the tracks you don’t want summed MUTED. From there move 11/12 back to 9/10, clear your individual drum tracks and you’re ready to record more instruments!! Hope that helps! Thanks for the question!

[@GlennThomasTech]

Take a look here. But just remember to have the tracks you don’t want summed muted or turned all the way down. kzbin.infoSdOsFGgeM0Y?si=bFHYjbbz7XXjsUGa

[@joelpoitras6226]

@@GlennThomasTech Thanks!!!!!

[@JGlassy]

Thanks for this-- your walk-through was helpful. I'm curious if this mixdown sum operation can be performed multiple times, e.g. "sound-on-sound" to channel 11/12 (main) in an additive manner? Example: say you've recorded onto ch 2-4, bounced these to 11/12, then cleared ch 2-4 as described. If you then record onto tracks 5-6, can these new ch 5-6 tracks be bounced (summed) to 11/12 in an additive way, over the top of what was previously on 11/12 so as to combine the music from chan 2-4 with the music from chan 5-6, so that now channel 11/12 contains (all 4) of these original tracks, prior to bumping them to chan 9/10 using your example? I ask because there doesn't seem to be a discrete involving clearing chan 11/12 in any examples I've seen. Thanks again!

[@GlennThomasTech]

Thanks for watching, Joe! to my knowledge, every time you sum to 11/12 it overwrites rather than overdubs. - but! you're close in your thinking.... You should be able to record 2-4 -- sum to 11/12-- clear 2-4 --- record 5/6 -- Move 11/12 (summed 2-4) back to two empty channels -- record all of those back to 11/12 (summing 2-4 & 5-6) -- Copy the summed 11/12 back to 2 clear tracks... etc etc. --- Hope that helps!

[@JGlassy]

@@GlennThomasTech Thanks much Glenn, you've provided a great re-cap and explanation for how this indeed works. It also confirms for me the huge opportunity lost (thus far) by Tascam's Model 12 designers; they could have supported this needlessly cumbersome "shell game" action via a 1-step overdub action, by just adding an "Additive Sum/Overdub to 11/12" option via firmware. (e.g. first privately auto-write the current 11/12 to a private scratch buffer to a protected file area on the SD card, then immediately 'tee' the newest selected track additions, together with the private scratch buffer contents, right back to 11/12 in one step). Sigh. I'm definitely hoping they'll add this sort of 'Additive Sum to 11/12" option via a future firmware update. They certainly already have all the raw mechanism, and access to on-board storage available, to vastly reduce the cumbersome workflow required now to do this common operation.

[@croknok4281]

Awesome thanks

[@GlennThomasTech]

Thanks for watching!

[@HarryLoveTV]

Good videos but backing music is way too loud

[@GlennThomasTech]

sure is! it's all a learning experience, isn't it? :) Thanks for watching

[@christianmichel2012]

Back track music too high dude ...thanks

[@GlennThomasTech]

Thanks Eduardo! I appreciate the feedback. Thanks for watching!

[@guidobootsma5233]

Good informative video but very disturbing and distracting music behind it. Why always this very busy and too loud music behind a info-video ?

[@saren6538]

Same