Tatiana Shmayluk - Judgement and Punishment - Vocal Coach Reaction and Analysis

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[@tomislavkosanovic1104]

I'd recommend "Perennial LIVE at Wacken 2019" for your next Jinjer reaction.

[@BakerStreetShootout]

100% yes!!!!!

[@mikehawke1558]

Killer tune. Great selection

[@sauliusj8414]

Next Jinjer Perennial Wacken live

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

I shall take a look ;)

[@shirazzza]

Tatiana is an absolute pocket rocket & fierce as hell. She's a gift

[@kurtthevillain6012]

Came for Jinjer But stayed for the “Boo Yah” Great react 😊

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

😂 Thank you!

[@andresweiland3714]

Tyler from Aerosmith also used boo yah in some song. Just saying.

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

And a Kapowwwww in perennial;-)

[@kaitlin3343]

I love how interesting their songs are, honestly. It's not necessarily my favorite genre, but between her insane technique, the band behind her, the constant meter/style changes, the songwriting, the lyrics... You almost have to listen to their songs quite a few times before you start to really understand them lol. I can't be the only musician who gets bored with normal music sometimes 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

YES!!!! Someone who gets it. I get bored quite quickly but that is probs because I listen to 8 - 10 hours of people singing every day. Their music is amazing, and I agree you really need to listen in quite intensely to get a good feel for what is going on.

[@luanamil]

Yessss!!! Me too!!!

[@546Scott]

Agreed... this was never my cup of tea HOWEVER this band is incredible!! Was fortunate enough o see them live in NY about 3 yrs ago now and what an amazing show!! Truly love this band great react!

[@Sumaleth]

I love Jinjer's grooves, unpredictability, and just all-round craft. I ended up buying all their albums after watching reactions to their songs and I wasn't disappointed. They're like a brutal Faith No More.

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

Insane right? I LOVE their groove. Not just straight growls but insane musicianship.

[@Sumaleth]

@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach The only down side is that the only music like this right now is literally the Jinjer discography! We'll have to wait for the next generation of musicians and bands they must be inspiring right now. Can't wait.

[@bongzilla4172]

If you are fan of both Jinjer and FNM, you are gonna love Twelve foot Ninja. Tatiana just released a song with them too. Not that heavy though, but a great song.

[@Sumaleth]

@@bongzilla4172 I just found out about 12FN last week, looking forward to their new album :)

[@symonmifsud1414]

I never thought of it like it. Brutal FNM

[@firemarshallj]

That was a lockdown/ quarantine production. From what I heard that was produced at her BF's place while she was quarantined in LA last year, while rest of the band was in Europe. It was released to commerate the 1 year anniversary of the release of the original song

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

Amazing really? I didn't see that anywhere. How cool! Talents group of musicians they are.

[@j.f.fisher5318]

@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach No worroes, it is the community reading between the lines to guess some of thos details. She and Eugene were dating people in Southern California and since everyone in the band already had 6mo US visas they stayed there while Roman, Vlad and Sasha went back to Ukraine, and the two of them who do most of the interviews anyway did a couple of videos there. The cat is her cat with Alex Lopez (drummer of Suicide Silence) named Pepino (her life has been too crazy with constant touring to have a pet before) so we can reasonably guess this was recorded at Alex's house in CA with some black fabric draped as a backdrop.

[@Qyngali]

@@j.f.fisher5318 Uhm, Eugene was definitely not dating anyone, he's married lol. Unless you know something I don't. :P

[@camlloyd3321]

I must agree that you should check out Perennial live at Wacken next.

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

Done! Added to the list!

[@steveb1972]

I think the blending and mixing of genres is the best thing about Jinjer!

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

Love it right?! Insane changes but soooo good!

[@steveb1972]

@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach just unsubscribed from a channel reviewing Pisces. Woman was vile about it saying it was rubbish. I love music, all from Opera to jazz to old skool hip hop and R&B to Death Metal and all between. Her disrespectful comments made me so damn angry!!!!!!

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

@@steveb1972 wow really? In my opinion beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I can say that I do not like a piece of music, or that it is not my taste, but I do not believe that you can say something is vile or awful. I can appreciate Tatiana's immense skills without saying I would listen to this trying to fall asleep at night. Ok, yes to qualify that statement the bare minimum (imo) in music is holding the tune and the correct pitch but even atonal music has it's audience out there.

[@firemarshallj]

She list No Doubt as one of her influences

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

Hey! It fits! ;)

[@Z_TPI]

I love how she uses different vocal colours in different songs. Her cleans in Pisces compared to this song, as well as Perenial and I Speak Astronomy etc. sound different. Tatiana's band mates fuse many genres in their writing, which allows her to spread her "vocal wings" and sing in a style that's appropriate for that composition.

[@bongzilla4172]

You can tell they were inspired by the guys in Twelve Foot Ninja.

[@Woody_Hart]

Zoe, extreme vocals are part and parcel of the harder metal genres. It is important to follow the lyrics to better understand why they are used to emphasize meaning. Tatiana is one of a kind and Jinjer's ability to create complex rhythms and syncopation never goes unnoticed. They are all fine musicians. Please do some research into their history and take some suggestions below of a live performance. To paraphrase a very fine teacher I once studied under... "The finest musicians I have ever heard on any instrument are those that not only take the time to learn every aspect of that instrument, but are also able to LOOK AWAY FROM THE SCORE and FEEL THE SOUL of the music". This teacher's name was Ralph Gomberg (oboe) and this was the most important lesson I ever had! Tatiana, Roman, Eugene, and Vlad have also learned that lesson!

[@ozzzzy52]

this is my favorite Jinjer song by far. the mixup of Reggae and Djent is just amazing.

[@andreasvomdorp7852]

Jinjer is a fantastic BAND: great drums, great bass, great guitar, great vocals, great compositions, great performance. One of the best around, never tire listening to them.

[@davidedemurodominijanni9889]

Jinjer is not only Tatiana. The whole band is absolutely over the top musicianship. The bass is solid asf, the guitar is insane, the drums are cool as hell. Let's just say I feel like I've married Tatiana and the whole band all at once!!! PS: Please react to any song w/lyrics official videos by OTEP. Super recommended!

[@dharris196285]

Good reaction. Really really recommend Home Back for the next JinJer video

[@Adam_Le-Roi_Davis.]

Jinjer is such a great band, Tatiana is the vocalist, Eugene is the bassist, Roman on guitar and Vlad on drums. Like many have already said, you should check out 'Perennial' live at Wacken next, and after that check out 'Teacher Teacher' the official video.

[@j.f.fisher5318]

No worries about research - sadists just want to see people pee themselves watching Pisces haha. Personally, my favorite thing is when people think they know what to expect, only to find out they had no idea. :) Perennial at Wacken is a very popular video. One of the best is Sit Stay Roll Over live in Melbourne which has more of her vocal tricks than I've seen her pack into a single performance of a song before.

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

Hey Jeffrey, lol I agree though the changes are insane though ;) I would much prefer to do a bit of research to be a bit more informed. However I do like a good surprise too.

[@j.f.fisher5318]

@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach IMO, whatever gives you more insight is a good thing.

[@donaldjackson4456]

That’s kind of funny because she grew up listening to Gwen Stefani and no doubt it’s her favorite band. And you are so wrong lol she sounds exactly the same in concert. Ive been. Its amazing. I know you are trying to explain how she does what she does lol but this is live 1 take.

[@Madison.Cruz.Shooter]

I'm also recommending "Perennial Live at Wacken" just to make it even more clear that we want you to react to it. . . . lol.

[@TheGregh1977]

Yea perennial live at wacken is a good one

[@adnap]

Who else could combine Gwen Stefani and Shamaya OTEP into one performance and so successfully executed ?

[@85dlturner]

Jinjer live Melbourne 2020. Tatiana is a metal goddess. The whole set is amazing and her energy from start to finish is is top tier. 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

I need to have a look at it! The pictures look amazing ;)

[@85dlturner]

@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach she sounds just as good live, her vocals aren't doctored that much on the albums. And the lows she can hit. 😲

[@baronofgreymatter14]

HOME BACK next

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

Added to the list thank you.

[@ozzzzy52]

to answer your last question, Tatiana is what drew me in because she is stunning :D but I stayed for the extreme quality of every single band member, they are all beasts. and their sound is just extremely fresh

[@MrKingdavis13]

If you ever have the opportunity to watch Jinjer live do it. I waited for over two years to see them and they are world class artists. When you watch them live you can tell it is not pre recorded and played while they act and her voice is 100 percent real and not some effect. Yes there are effects, but none more than other artists use regularly and I am not talking about pitch perfect or anything like that, just a little reverb and echo etc... The next Jinjer concert I am able to attend I am going to take a better camera because the audio my phone recorded is horrible and doesn't do justice to the performance in real life.

[@19FlyingWombat76]

G`day und "Na, wie geht`s?!" from an German/Aussie.......I`m so hard wondering why I can`t find a reaction on Spiritbox???! o.O Canadian Band and I would say reacting to the Live performance on Canadian SiruisXM Radio Video would be the best but the 2 they made are both 3 Songs = I suggest to start with "Holy Roller" or "Rule Of Nines" from them. YOU WILL LOVE IT!

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

Dude! Amazing I will have to check them out. ;) I have never heard of them....

[@19FlyingWombat76]

@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach You really have to do that! You are living in NZ now so I recon this stuff comes a bit late to it (like all the european stuff came 1-2 years late when I worked in Oz ;) I REALLY would say start with the Roller Vid @ It has that "Midsommar" Vibe if you are in Horror movies ;)

[@rjh862]

Hmmm...def a one take "live" vocal...i mean ya can't discount it for having minimal post production...compared to the studio version which has layered vocal tracks, harmony, and dbl tracking....this is pretty raw...and yet perfect. ;)

[@bennyharderguitar]

I thought the exact same thing.

[@dannysteele4442]

Teacher teacher react to that jinjer song next banger!

[@glebivanov6323]

I don't think that Tatiana's "acting" the expressions of her face and body on purpose to entertain us whilst she's singing easily and almost boring. Basing on the experience of dozens viewed performances I can assume that Tatiana always expresses herself during the performance. It's like... you know, like Italian people should involuntarily gesticulating hands while talking. And I'd say that's my favourite Tatiana's feature. She's never just singing, not just producing some sound. Tatiana's expressing herself in performing. And singing is just a part of the whole performance. She's impressively good in singing to put it mildly. But moreover she has such a good stage presence that this combination makes her a worldclass performer. And we are not talking about how good Tatiana is as a lyricist. She's the author of most Jinjer's lyrics. Pay attention to it, it worthwhile.

[@Dilligff]

I think that is part of what makes her so special, is she isn't just 'singing' but genuinely getting into the moment. Less of a deliberate and conscious act and more of a natural emotiveness that elevates her performances.

[@goldenruletv7301]

Jinjer = Genius....they get better and better the more you listen to them.

[@SP_3333]

The talent this fantastic woman has is beyond mind blowing. Tatiana 🤟❣️🤟

[@arc6017]

Amazing display of vocal skill! It´s not live, it´s a one take. And sure there´s compression to even the sound not much more post production besides that. Try the amazing "Perennial" live at Wacken 2019, now that´s an epic live performance!!

[@LutzHerting]

I know that everyone keeps recommending Perennial as the next song (just because it's an awesome performance). But from a singer / singing-technique point of view, I'd say you DEFINITELY have to watch the official video for "Teacher, Teacher". In that song, Tatjana keeps doing those extreme switches between clean and growl WITHIN single lines of the song, without any breaks between the two styles. And also in that song, she uses an awesome amount of different singing styles throughout the whole thing, from somewhat spoken-wordy, to pop-like, to growl, to jazzy, and then very smooth and warm at the end. Even if you don't do a video on it, do yourself a favor and watch it at least.

[@smavtmb2196]

Love it I think the Reggae influence surprises alot of people. I also love "teacher teacher". Please consider reacting to that one.

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

It really did! I think the clean vocals really confused me more than anything. Such an awesome mix!

[@smavtmb2196]

@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach The song is so unique and I love that Tatiana was clearly enjoying herself and her moment with the Cat at the beginning was adorable.

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

@@smavtmb2196 it just shows us all that she is a human like all of us ;)

[@tattoodude8946]

"Cupping" of the mic is often looked down upon by metal singers as a cop out to make your voice bigger and Tati rarely does it. Even though when asked in an interview, she said she likes to cup the mic, she was actually referring to simply holding the head on the mic (her hands are small and she said she feels like a wedding singer if she holds the neck - LOL) and not full on cupping her hands around the mic to make the sound bigger. She does do this occasionally but not as often as you would think given her small frame and achieving such a low, aggressive sound.

[@RoninMidzu]

The funny thing about this reaction, for me personally, I picked up your Brand of English in my head and had a bit of a discussion with you in my view of the reaction. I am an audial form a musical family, picking up the most things I hear or listen to therefor I have a braod stroke of musical preferences and still learning every day, just by singing along, be it the music itself or the vocals. ))) I liked your comments and you brought me some nice thoughts and a smile to my face.))) P.S: AC/DC are to blame for the popularity of the Down-Under Accent of the english language. )))

[@terryminator4208]

Tatiana loves Gwen and No Doubt

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

That is fabulous! I really had no idea!

[@terryminator4208]

@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach check out- Jinjer The Best Shirt Ever. Please.

[@mikeferris408]

How badass is she! Love her very very much.👍👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🤘

[@johnfish8208]

More Jinjer... never a bad idea 🙂

[@tshcktall]

4:35 "to make it seem like things were more difficult, than they actually are". I'm pretty sure the intention of this, from a lot of singers, is to express actual emotions. You make it sound like it's a ruse.

[@francinemacintyre1446]

Teacher Teacher

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

Noted thank you!

[@Rosannasfriend]

I love that you swear.

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

Why thank you! I don't try to make a thing of it though, it is just genuinely what comes out in the moment. I hope I don't over do it! ;)

[@cribarce]

I suggest "I speak Astronomy". Probably the best ending for a metal song ever. Extreme clear voice and growl performance. Plus, the video is art

[@Purifyfyfy]

I just found your channel but already love it. If you want to dive even deeper in some harsher metal styles, probably you could be happy to see 'Slaughter To Prevail' with their song 'Demolisher'.

[@AndriiMuliar]

Zoe Stibi, you are smartest, sorry to say this.

[@Popmetalj]

Very enjoyable. Just discovered your channel this evening :) I like your ‘Did Your Know?’ popups. I’ll reiterate my request for you to look and listen to ‘Crack of Light’ by Vintersea please!

[@thiendipham835]

She gives us a kitty as a cameo in this video, makes me love her even more 😊

[@Tica..77]

Hi Zoe, another great analysis / breakdown. I’m beginning to really like her; albeit, I don’t follow her, I agree she’s quite impressive & captivating indeed! And did I hear you’re taking metal lessons 👀 He’ll yeah, can’t wait to hear ya when ready! 🤍✨Tica Suggested for future analysis, if something jumps out at ya or if so inclined ;-) ... * Bol Hu - Soch the Band ft. Hadiya Hashmi) / Nescafé Basement season 5 / 2019 * Caruso - Lara Fabian) From Lara with Love * Unintended - MUSE (Wembly stadium)

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

Amazing thank you Tica! How cool!!! I will take a look at them.

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

God, I am not sure that I will be ready to share them with the world for a while. I sing more symphonic metal than real growl or rattle like Tatiana uses.

[@Tica..77]

@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach no hurry but when ready of course please share (something tells me you’ll get it tho‼️ 🤍✨

[@triikkatrookka2361]

Their most recent track home back is awesome song and tatiana is doing some cool stuff with her voice

[@shannonbaker2069]

Jinjer has stated many times the only effect they ever use for her is a delay

[@renaldocurley1839]

Once Human Sledgehammer official music video!!!

[@paulhayward8459]

Zoe, really enjoying your reactions, thank you. What are the chances of doing a one on one with Jenny from Devilskin ? She is a wonderful vocalist and has some pretty amazing growls herself. Perhaps she would be receptive to the idea !! Cheers, Paul Hayward. 😊😊🤘🤘

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

Thank you Paul! I really appreciate it. I would love to have a look at her. I shall add it to the list!

[@pauljollyroger]

"Perennial LIVE at Wacken 2019", "Who Is Gonna Be The One LIVE", "Teacher, Teacher", "I Speak Astronomy (Official Video)"

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

I will 100% take a look at them thank you!

[@autemniaequinoctius2030]

it would be a good idea to do a double reaction to the Perennial official video and Wacken Live and compare

[@chemicallust77]

No matter how good the original recording was, KZbin is going to ruin it with their compression...the best quality KZbin offers is 256kbps...it's pretty terrible quality...so most of the compression you're hearing is on the end of KZbin

[@tonywacker805]

Watch the live versions, she got it ;)

[@hemlock399]

Tatiana isn't a "mic cupper" in live performances. She's apparently got unusually loud growls / screams.

[@harryhws5480]

She doesn't always cup the mic sure but she definitely does do it a fair bit, particularly for lows

[@hemlock399]

@@harryhws5480 For the lowest lows, like the end of Home Back, yes, but not for any of the vocals she's doing in this song.

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

Take a look at this performance, she clearly cups the mic. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5LZlKmobruZp68&ab_channel=JinjerMetalBand

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

She mentions here in her interview that she does cup, that is where I got the info from. Admittedly I haven't seen them live, but she said that she prefers it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3PVooqPgqegbJI&ab_channel=Loudwire

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

That is what I was getting at, I think this is "all in one take" meaning it was recorded vocals and then she recorded the video over top. Of course with processors you can achieve a lot. Aspiring metal singers just need to know that her sound is actually very quiet when it isn't through a microphone.

[@user-nr8tr4fk9n]

Thank you Zoe. Can you react one more femail vocalist from Ukraine? I suggest Daria Zaritskaya from 'Sershen & Zaritskaya'.

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

Added to the list!

[@Lukos0036]

Listen to Jens Kidman sing live. He is the lead vocalist for a band called Mesuggah. He never uses clean vocals. He growls through every song 100% of the time, and they tour constantly. Or did before covid. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHKtYoqKfLN8ic0 You don't NEED to dip in and out of growls. Most people don't in fact, which is what makes Tatiana and Cory Taylor so unique in the metal because they do. It's just that Tatiana also dips in and out of several entire musical genres even within a single track, which is something not even Slipknot did.

[@RalphBellairs]

I would be interested to see you react to Courtney LaPlante of the band Spiritbox doing her one take vocal playthrough of "Rule of Nines". Thanks.

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

Added to the list thank you David! 🙂

[@bepkororoti8019]

Tatiana is a live performer, I have a feeling she needs to reign herself in with the theatrics inside a studio

[@thescourgeofathousan]

This one is not billed as a live session. Just as the single take performance.

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

Agreed.

[@johnfish8208]

Love Jinjer 😁👍👍 and don't worry about doing research that's just the Pisces reaction junkies wanting unsuspecting vocal coaches to pee themselves 😂🤣

[@philiprennert7730]

I’ve heard that if you do screams you don’t have to stick your tongue out or shouldn’t.

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

Probably right. Screaming is not really my jam but I am learning the mechanics at the moment. I am by no means an expert so I will take your word for it. I think it is just cause that is how I imagine my glam rock scream to be. ;)

[@philiprennert7730]

I’m learning it too, but for me the Lower growls and way easier 😂 btw great Videos and greetings from Germany

[@chazzboi1009]

I love your videos so much!!! Could you please react to Jessie J singing live at the Troubadour. She’s uploaded the footage on her KZbin channel and it’s absolutely stunning.

[@chazzboi1009]

Here’s the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnjZmWaJg6uAqLc

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

Thank you sooooo much for being here and thank you ;) That just put a smile on my face for the rest of my working evening ;) I will do my best. I LOVE a big of JJ so I will take a look.

[@chazzboi1009]

@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach awww you’re so precious!! I genuinely look forward to seeing your videos, they always brighten up my day 🥰😊

[@JohnFleshman]

My favorite thing about Tatiana is her ridiculous range of vocal styles and ability to sing any style she wants like shes been doing it for 50 years.

[@joethibeault]

you realy need to react to a cradle of filth video pleasssse!!!!!

[@GregNoblin]

I suppose you gotta go to Spiritbox Rule of Nines etc next.

[@donapaterson832]

Twelve Foot Ninja | Over And Out Feat Tatian Shmayluk did you ever hear this song

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

No I didn't. I'll add it to the list!

[@quintfl]

I'd recommend anything else but this

[@renaldocurley1839]

Pantera cemetery gates music video please!!!

[@mikearey5991]

Some things are as natural as breathing.

[@eggietheggman]

100% Live. Compression doesn't change that fact

[@lloyderc]

Live at waken . Then u can see it’s legit

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

I definitely know it is legit. I was just referring to it having been processed and there is obvious compression on the song.

[@lloyderc]

@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach yea. I thought so. They did overlay on picies. The perineal live a waken is open air show and I don’t know how they sound so good. But it’s gravy how she can do what she does

[@chrisk9911]

People who do growls and actually know how to do it, don’t cup the mike to get a deeper sound!

[@AndyWoohoo666]

I differ, even if it's processed it's still a one take. There are a lot of bootleg videos of live performance of her and she is a demon live, well actually the whole band is...not many bands as tight as they are.

[@dougarnold7955]

👍

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

🤘

[@Ayman-Animatix]

Can you please React to ( TAMINO -HABIBI )

[@andersstromqvist2211]

I love the contrast betwen the growls and the cleans. It makes ech part stand out more for me. A song with only cleans get kind of boring and the same with a song that is all growls

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

Agree, I think all clean or all growl can get tedious. It needs some change. Actually our brains need the pitch changes to stay interested.

[@daveruddiman8871]

Nice reaction. As you seem to cast a pretty wide net, have you considered anything by the Wagakki Band? A fusion of traditional Japanese instruments with modern sensibilities. I'd suggest Senbonzakura as as starting point kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoiwY5aObqx0aNk

[@patchwork7591]

Those who can't , teach!

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

Usually I wouldn't respond to negative comments but I feel that it just puts down teachers in general. I do not mind if you are referring to me, do what you must, however teachers are usually (in music anyways when you have a good one) highly skilled performers. Floor Jansen for example is a voice teacher, would you say she is an incapable singer? Wishing you a lovely day.

[@searcheRN7]

0:11 Tatiana is looking like a Mortal Kombat character here. Im sure she can outscream Sindel tho :D

[@henryruizph.d7161]

Spiritbox…Courtney Laplante crushes these other ladies…

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

ooooo I am adding it to the list!!!

[@MrBlink182Skate]

VORTEX JINJER

[@jamesclymer4647]

I'm a drummer not a vocalist but you commented on her body movements the thing I disagree with you a vocal coach me not one this is like disagreeing with George Washington about what's written in our Constitution anyway back to the body movements like the leaning forward the shoulders before she goes into her growl I've seen other singers do it check out the band VINTERSEA they toured with JINJER they are from the states female fronted they did a 2 song studio gig a couple of months ago it called SLAY AT HOME and watch her and besides some layering on the vocals the normal stuff she has that posture react to it think you will enjoy it ok I'm done good night Coach and goodnight George

[@module79l28]

5:15 - This isn't a live performance at all? I think you're confusing "live" with "raw". This performance might not be raw but it was definitely live.

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

Would you consider something that has been processed as being live? I think we just have different definitions. I think this has been edited to suit. I get the "all in one take" thing but as soon as your voice goes through a computer there is no way to tell what is really going on.

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

@k o a l I feel as though your general tone is one of dislike for my video therefore I am not going to try and convince you of my point. I think we are past that from what I can see. What I would say is that for aspiring singers they hear this performance and try to recreate the same level of sound that she does and therefore they over push because it sounds extremely loud. I merely wanted to point out that singers should know that there is no way to create such a stable sound without the plugins from the computer. You need the microphone. Anyways I never mentioned inauthentic, so that is something that is being read into my comments. Have a great day.

[@keithommart4388]

I love the fact she had no training she taught her self buy screaming at cars and into her pillow

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

Pretty insane though right? She is pretty lucky to not have done some damage there. ;)

[@keithommart4388]

@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach it was her dream she had a pretty hard life war no food she found a way determination at any cost I just respect it!

[@hiufernando7340]

Great reaction. Anyway, can i request your reaction to superb band from japan? The band is call "Lovebites" They all Beautiful Princesses metal band. But they are really really World class musicians. And they have a lot fans too. The song is "Winds of Transylvania" Hope you check out, and can enjoy it too. Big thanks🙏

[@89Tamin]

If you dont belive that she is singing live..you should look at some live shows before you talk about not singing live.

[@Dude1971Dad]

Amazed that English isn't her native language...diction better than native speakers

[@johnfish8208]

The way people define "live" as no effects or audio engineering involved is inaccurate and unrealistic. I've done live sound and studio work and I've never seen vocals left raw with no processing whatsoever. Always some reverb, usually some compression delays chorus etc. Saying a recorded performance isn't live because a small amount of industry standard processing techniques were used is silly it's a recording. If you go to see a band live I guarantee you you are not hearing a raw voice with absolutely no effects unless it's strictly acoustic singing and instruments with no amplification whatsoever

[@johnisabella5148]

Meow M

[@1stCainite]

I had to like, even though it brought it to 667 likes. Sorry. :)

[@stevebrians662]

THEIR- the band and no one ever says they are from the Ukraine. English is not their first language

[@encapsulatio]

"Stibi"...hmm, where are you from originally? You're slightly out of focus in this video.

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

Hi! I am from New Zealand but I married a German ;) Hence the Stibi, previously Stevens. I know, horrible right? I sometimes forget to refocus the camera and only realise it at the end. ;) Thanks for the heads up though, I need to keep an eye on that.

[@Katolikk61]

the comment about cupping the microphone is total bullshit as she clearly isn't even touching the microphone

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

She cups the microphone in her performances which is what I was getting at. Due to the compression there is no way this isn't fiddled with. It sounds far too similar. Just my opinion though, we shall never know unless we ask her.

[@iminaband397]

@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach Every sound engineer no matter if it's a live production or a recording will probably use compression, EQ and adjust levels and in this case mix the vocals to fit with the backing track. Tools of the trade IMO. Don't think it's taking anything from her performance. Nowhere do they claim it isn't fiddled with. I think youtube would be quite different if people where uploading raw unprocessed audio. It would be a lot easier for sound engineers if more musicians had a basic understanding of music production. As for cupping the mic. She does sometimes cup the mic when they perform live, but in this video I don't think it qualifies as cupping. In fact she seems to be careful to only touch the mic mount, as cupping a condenser mic would not have any positive effect on the sound.

[@cognitiveharmony]

@@ZoeStibiVocalCoach There is no drop in the upper harmonics that would be seen with cupping in this recording. It would be pretty obvious with this microphone. This recording has compression like virtually every single recording you will ever hear and likely some eq to clean up the microphone dynamic range and that is all I am hearing. I am not even hearing reverb. Likely some dampening of popped P's etc.. in post as well. Digital recording almost always has compression due to the intricacies of the technology. Most DAWs have compression on every channel without you even knowing it to stabilize the sound. Any live or studio sound engineer who has a clue will have at least some compression on a vocalist. And unless she is the greatest lip syncer I have ever seen, and I have seen alot, her performance here is the actual recording. I have also seen Jinjer live and have seen her growl with and without cupping. She doesn't need it but does use it at times. When I first saw this video, I was extremely impressed that they had only done the bare minimum to capture the sound with the general intent to only fix what the technology added and needed to sound closer to real life (noise cleanup, compression and eq). I am a former professional sound engineer (multiplatinum acts) and I think this recording is about as real as you can get while still sounding professional and not like someone who just plugged a mic into their computer and started singing, which sounds horrible no matter how good the singer. Now the Jinjer Pisces "Live Session" is straight up a studio recording with all the dubs, layering, post processing etc... still awesome though.

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

@@cognitiveharmony thank you so much for sharing your insight. Happily stand corrected! Great that she can still make it without cupping, obviously the compression gives us the impression that her growl is louder than it probably is... although I would need to hear her do it in front of me to really be 100% certain. Thank you for your thoughtful comment and I always love learning new things from those who know more than I do. Stay healthy and have a great day!

[@johnisabella5148]

The best part of the song was the cat this is not metal reminds me of no doubt when I was hanging out with them in the 90s

[@jsalvatori]

don't cup the microphone. ever.

[@johnisabella5148]

She sings like a little girl my daughter has a deeper voice but she doesn't have to try

[@ZoeStibiVocalCoach]

Hi John, great to hear. Sounds like your daughter is a great singer