Tattoo needles! Everything you ever wanted to know | EP 38

[@BRNBRDGS]

Great work , guys !!! : D

[@600rrcbr7]

You guys rock. I've bee. tattooing professionally out of a shop for over a year now. I started off self taught for a year. in 2 months time in a shop I learned more than they year I did on N.Y. own. I did learn alot being self taught. I could perform very clean tattoos. k locked up some bad habits. my mentor broke me pretty quick AND now I can focus on my art in the tattoo because I know I'm doing it right. so guys get an apprenticeship. learn the right way. thanks jake and David. you guys are awesome

[@FiresideTattooNetwork]

Thanks a lot. We appreciate the support

[@georgegasmatron1]

Guys I found out about your space only a few days ago and is already helping me getting through many issues that were holding me back. Thanks a million for sharing! I will come up with questions soon.

[@FiresideTattooNetwork]

Sorry, just saw this comment. Thanks for watching and commenting

[@viniv20]

upto 7-9 a round shader is really nice for single pass lines guys. If you go bigger it tends to not go in from the first time, or you machine seems like it's running properly or too soft for it. So u end up running ur machine faster and then cause 'aftermath' blowouts. At least that's what i've found out with very big round shaders. u don't see anything at first, but when the client comes back couple weeks later you'll see some blowouts. + for colouring smaller stuff. I personally don't really like to colour small stuff with magnums. U use straights they tend to colour too much on the sides, and when u use soft edge mags, they tend to colour too soft. While a round shader if you're using the right technnique, know ur machine and power suply can put in colour single pass and stay in no problem ..

[@rivieredencretatouages6908]

🖒

[@theghost_and_thegouge]

So helpful for a new artist. Thank you.

[@FiresideTattooNetwork]

+Audrey Helling Thanks. Glad it helped.

[@safetomeragic5124]

Tattoo Improvement do you have an email I can have to ask you as question?

[@Ryuoxel]

What year was the Magnum needle invented?

[@curtiscarlson8958]

Interesting tho, I saw one of those slow motion UTubes that did slo-mo of tattooing and they have proved, figured out (?) that durring the process of tattooing very little ink goes in the hole in the skin durring the in stroke. It is after the exit stroke of the needle while the hole in the skin is still a hollow area in the skin (a hole) and before the skin whole collapses that hole has created a vacuum inwhich then the ink is drawn into (sucked into the vacuum created by the needle making a hole) the skin hole as that hole collapses back in on itself. Very interesting eh? I would love to see more research done on the placing of pigments in the skin and I would also like to see some peer review on that ink-suction theory to see if the experiment can be recreated. It may be an innovation point for the tattoo and PM industries.

[@elliottnunez1057]

Gotta disagree with you on one point..ha pun intended...If you want to get technical..like you said in the beginning of the video..There is no such thing as a liner or a shader...that is what the supplly companies call them..you can and do line with a shader and vice versa....The real technical term..the way I was taught is a tight and a loose....a loose round or a tight round...same with mags ..gimme a tight round 7 please...lol..or, I use a loose round 5 to build up my lines...Since no one makes their own needles anymore. You can thank the supply companies for the new terminology.

[@lanetadiarionetodeunscratc9439]

Categorizing is a natural trait of humanity brother. You could through ideas and concepts around and make sure to keep that information secure and segregated, as information and concepts were in the tattoo world for decades, but since it’s a world wide trend now, it’s natural to standardize and simplify concepts, for the benefit of communication....this would be a very technical approach to your disagreement...

[@elliottnunez1057]

@@lanetadiarionetodeunscratc9439TRUE!! Haha I guess Im just old school. Gotta get with the times!

[@eugenegannon8806]

Dont know if you guys cares but if you are bored like me during the covid times you can stream pretty much all the new movies and series on instaflixxer. Have been watching with my gf for the last few days xD

[@millerstefan2137]

@Eugene Gannon Definitely, have been watching on Instaflixxer for since november myself :D

[@AndrueSOCAL]

What about nowadays for linework I actually find 10 gauge and 12 so similar and the liners stink I use round shaders

[@lanetadiarionetodeunscratc9439]

¿Can you guys talk a little about loosing needle sharpness throughout a tattoo session? The feel, what to look for, how to deal with fixable problems if not dull... it will be greatly appreciated 😬

[@andretti-s2w]

would you use a curved magnum to pack color or pack black or both?...when would you use a standard magnum over a curved one or do you just use curved magnums and thats it?

[@FiresideTattooNetwork]

I think its a personal preference. Curved mags allow for very smooth color blends. Standard mags allow you to work into corners more easily. Just play around with both and see what you prefer... Or just use both!

[@eastbayartist]

Such a great show. Keep going and it will be big. Perhaps so big everyone may actually love America for this. hahahah it would be awesome. Aside from solving world peace :) you folks are making inspired tattoo artist be the best they can be for those who want to apply the time and to see there is a lot of Tattoo study. The Artist Terminalogy and attention to technical Tattoo detail helps tremendously. God Speed

[@FiresideTattooNetwork]

Thanks a lot!! It would be really cool if we could create world peace with a tattoo show.

[@electricwater83]

So if im clouring a tattoo what neddle ia best and area abut inch wide

[@chadharrington1]

Do you know where that black and grey bug pin series is? I tried to find it but have had no luck.

[@FiresideTattooNetwork]

I'm not sure. I will look and try to post a link

[@jeffleblanc8850]

Did you ever find a black and grey series bug pin shader needles

[@tmoneypopnfesh6559]

Thank you, you two are great source of useful information. I like the idea of the curved mag a lot. However one thing that is really bothering me is how exactly does one solder a woven mag? Is the woven mag the only shader that requires this process? Any feed back would be appreciated, thanks.

[@FiresideTattooNetwork]

I've never tried to build a curved mag but I assume that the needle jig is just machined to the curve and you stack needles into it the same way you would when building a normal mag or flat shader.

[@tmoneypopnfesh6559]

cool man, thanks!

[@ianspazynski6147]

Good discussion!

[@FiresideTattooNetwork]

+ian spazynski Thanks!

[@saraw7038]

Just curious, you guys didn't say anything about the differences between a soft edge magnum and a curved magnum and a round magnum. I've seen some companies selling all three so I assume these are not different names for the same configuration but actually 3 different needle configurations. What specifically is their differing functionality? Thanks for all the insight. Yours truly SaRa.

[@FiresideTattooNetwork]

Thanks for the comment. Different manufacturers seem to have their own terms for needle configurations. I am only aware of traditional mags and curved mags. I have not heard of a soft edge mag but I assume it is another name for a curved mag. A round shader isn't typically referred to as a mag as far as I know but it's possible that some manufacturer has started using that term.

[@jdsantos2253]

Whats a good brand quality needles?

[@codywells82]

Envy

[@saucyrod]

awesome video super helpful 👍

[@FiresideTattooNetwork]

Thanks saucyrod! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@kadumacieltattoo]

thank you very much. this help me a lot

[@FiresideTattooNetwork]

Awesome. Glad it helped

[@beyondsilencedn]

let the link of the black n grey portrait, couldn't find it !

[@FiresideTattooNetwork]

I can't seem to find it either

[@coreynash5731]

love the video i been tattoo for a two years ti be honest i felt like im still not getting it until i seen the video so for your information gentleman an one favor is tgere anyway ucan get those pic that you was showing on the screen while u was explain details plz an ty god blessing

[@safetomeragic5124]

pls let me know the name of the video of the guy you were talking about .who does the black and grey

[@FiresideTattooNetwork]

This episode was quite a while ago. I'm not sure that I remember. I'll see if I can find it

[@pinkkittykloe]

Thanx! :)

[@FiresideTattooNetwork]

Thank you for watching!

[@ottograff3986]

When I was an apprentice I hated making needles. In metal setups white and light colors will discolor after awhile of use. More so with textured needles. They act like sandpaper. As an apprentice in the late 80's first I had to learn to build my machine, then make needles,plus all the other BULLSHIT setups, breakdowns, autoclave, clean toilets and mop floors. All the while drawing when I had a chance.

[@c5bh5]

0-00-000- mean ott. ie. 0 means single ott, 00 is double ott and 000 mean triple ott that is the technical classifications of zero and minus -0 gauges. So quit tripping over your zeros now fellas. You are very welcome.

[@tat2masheen]

killing me on the LA artist Juan Salgado black and gray. Juan Salgado does mostly color. from Puerto Rico.

[@themmacircle7645]

He's talking about Carl Grace

[@johnnyozzy4000]

looks like there always drinking in there shop great professionals lmfao.

[@robertblackadar7246]

I gotta say... I use single needles.

[@FiresideTattooNetwork]

There is no one right needle configuration. Whatever works for you. Thanks for watching

[@robertblackadar7246]

Haha yes I know this, I was just saying. Keep up the good work. I do enjoy watching your videos.

[@ProphecyTattoosllc]

he dosent let you talk

[@jeffleblanc8850]

Fun making needles lol make them for 20 years then say fun lol good show and yes I think every artist should know how to make needles and also put a tattoo machine together from scratch so they have a idea on how things are done have it way to easy now most could not do it if ther were not all these new pens and all these colors that go in easy what I’m getting to is ther would be a quarter of the tattoo artist that ther are now every body and ther grandmother are tattoo artists good show

[@CATNOIR_HELLCAT_RACING]

im just surprised by the tons of quality informations on this channel.. been going trought a lot, a lot and a lot of shit advices till i hit this channel. but even going trought the shitty tattooers you learn, because if you dont feel the difference between good advice and quality tattooers, you should not do tattoos because you will never learn to do it good..

[@FiresideTattooNetwork]

Thanks so much for the kind words.

[@CATNOIR_HELLCAT_RACING]

@@FiresideTattooNetwork i mean it, tell this message to Jake and everyone responsible. this is (tattoo) needle in pile of shit on youtube :) take care

[@jeffleblanc8850]

To me round shaders are garbage for anything in the old days that’s what we learned with garbage I can’t use them inn the old days we did not have what they have now they have it made now cartridges pen style tattoo machines you guys have it made we use to set for hours and make our needles so all these guys got it made like I say we use to use a tight 3 and flat 6 I learned on flat 6 never touched s round after we would take a flat 6 and spread it would get some really good shading out of them things have changed so much the new guy is laughing now days every thing a guy could want the color is great nowadays the colors we use to have from Spaulding were terrible the concoction s we use to try lol same with black making a good black we used to have to be chemists lol like listening to your podcast I’m 60 now and I tattoo a little bit been tattooing over the years since late 80s I prefer Mithras for ther needles I was up ther in Markham on the weekend grabbed a bunch of supply’s good show

[@elliottnunez1057]

A tight a loose and a flat.. thats what we called them back in the 70s. Today i dont think tattooists even use flats! If they did theyd probably slice you open , because i bet 99 percent of todays tattooists or tattoo artist really know how to use the flats. Just mags now a days. Spauliding powdered pigment brings back memories LOL. Powdered pigment and listerine or vodka!