Taurus G3C in a Ransom Rest, Surprising Results, Various Ammo Tested.

[@kalstewart1971]

This was SO helpful. I’ve been using 115 grain for training but I had no idea that 147 grain would be the G3C choice of ammo. Great video

[@taylork3342]

When i bought my g3c i had gotten 115 grain jhps but i suppose im switching it up lol.

[@NativeTexMexican]

Federal Syntech 150 grain 9mm is incredibly accurate in my G3C .😁👍

[@somenoonsomenoon8874]

Doesn't like reloads

[@mikelastpass689]

This represents the finest test on the G3c I've ever seen. Never seen this type setup before and it really shows the pistols capability. I will definitely look for higher grain ammo next time I'm at the range with mine.

[@wheelerdave]

I'm considering buying a G3c, so I've been watching a lot of videos; this is very helpful. I've only ever bought 115 grain for the guns I have had, hadnt thought about guns liking different grains and it being that noticeable.

[@louisaltazin4970]

I recently purchased this firearm. I own multiple revolvers that are old but very much serviceable. I wanted to get something less expensive to see if this was for me. Right out of the box it fit my hand and felt great. I put 50 rounds through it not paying attention to the grain which was 115. My groupings were very similar to what this video shows. I really enjoyed shooting this firearm. It will be interesting to see how well heavier grains work next trip. This video is by far the most informative about something I would have never considered had I not stumbled upon this one. I am new to the 9mm world. By my first visit to the range, I may be hooked. Can't wait to get back to the range with the knowledge this video has provided.

[@kylewood8327]

Your remarks pretty much sums up my gun collection too: I own some really nice S&W revolvers and a nice Sig W German P series. So carrying any of those was out of the question! Then I stumbled (quite by accident) upon a Taurus G3C and bought it. Couldn’t pass up the price, $300, and it came with 3, 12 round mags. I’ve run 115 FMJ, 124 JHP, and 124 JHP +P’s through mine without any issues. Great carry gun so far!

[@jamesbranham2217]

I have the g2c and it's more accurate than I am.. 40-50 feet and it's just one ragged hole..I enjoy shooting it the most of my 9mm pistols.. i have never tried 147 but I might just to see.. hope you are enjoying yours

[@jeffbrown8606]

This is one of the best videos I've seen for testing a firearm. I just recently bought a Taurus C3C so I've been watching plenty of videos. I think you made one of the most useful videos testing what ammo works best that you could get and how accurate the Taurus G3C can be.

[@theparalexview785]

Excellent demonstration. I'm old school and remember when the Ransom rest was *the* standard for firearms testing in the 1970s-'90s, especially with the NRA/American Rifleman reviews, and reviews by some of the better (and better funded) magazines. I see very few KZbin gun channel hosts doing credible testing for accuracy and grouping, mostly handholding with only a few using sandbags. I read some reviewers claiming they got better groups off sandbag rests, but given the human element there's no way of knowing whether they adjusted their holds mid-test to compensate for perceived loosening of groups, or off-center groups. The Ransom rest eliminates that human fudge factor from getting repeatable results. Back in the 1990s I was a workplace safety consultant and recommended the Ransom rest for safe testing by a small firearms manufacturer after an employee was injured while testing a firearm that blew apart while handholding the gun. I'm not sure whether they followed through, but the Ransom rest should be the industry standard for all firearms manufacturers.

[@Ransomrest]

Hi Paralex Thank you so much for the comments and kind words, greatly appreciated. Yes you are correct in most all cases all manufacturers use the Ransom Rest as the standard. As far as reviewers saying they got better group by hand. This is entirely posable if they do not learn and or use the machine right. There are many people who inadvertently over tighten the gun in the grip insert in the Ransom Rest. Then say the gun doesn't group or I got better of hand. This is only because they over clamped the gun. This is easy to do when you are thinking accuracy you want things snug and rigid issue is the grip inserts are designed to be the durometer of the human hand. Just like if you push on your index trigger finger you will feel flesh and it will give some then muscle and bone. The grips are the same way as your hand it will give, and if you over tighten the gun, you can swell the grip then the gun won't settle and they get frustrated and move on to sandbag instead of reading our instruction manual or calling us up. Machine is easy to use but you do need to know it. Keep in mind the human hand grip is not that strong, honestly it is not. And keep in mind even girls shoot these guns. So if needed the Mil spec for the Ransom Rest is 19-inch LBs for steel frame and 14-to-15-inch LBS for polymers. when fighting the A,B,C knobs. Honestly extended fingers work very well to clamp. But that is when you learn the machine but if needed a Inch lb wrench can be the way to go if you want or can't figure it out because, as the Military calls it, be a Jar head and over clamp. In case you wanted that info but i can see you are a user and believer in the Rest, and we thank you for that support. Yes, it is true no firearm model goes into service for DOJ DHS or FBI without ransom Rest test. We are as the Military calls the industry standard, this is only due to Ransom Rest has been tried and true and as the Military say it is the only machine duplicatable to the end user. Thank you for using a Ransom Rest it is the safe way to test you are corect again.

[@KrazyKZs_Garage]

Such a great video and very informative. I actually have this firearm and recently purchased it so this really helped. The set up you have, as well as the camera angles are perfect. Thanks for taking the time to do this I can imagine getting everything set up took a couple of hours

[@allenbolen9705]

First time I’ve seen your test. I liked it! Subscribed

[@Howitzer43715]

The most underrated video on KZbin. Excellent vid man

[@davegrimm1392]

Great video and very helpful. I also own a G3C and love it!

[@cometcal2]

This is a great video. What would be even more interesting is to do the same type of tests with handguns in a similar category like 9mm compact, etc. For ammo, major mfg. JHP, FMJ, grain category.

[@Saab900S1]

OUTSTANDING Presentation! I've Been Following Ransom Rest since the 1980's. This Is The Space X of Firearms Accuracy Research. Great Job Done By All, Including The CEO of The Target Stapling Department.

[@stevenlefebvre2991]

Excellent video thank you very much for all the information. Update. Now that I have my gun and have been training with it it is a tack driver with gold dot + P ammo 124 grain. Just what you want with a carry gun. And also shoot to point of aim. With factory sites. The 17 round factory magazines are beautiful. Great ergonomics. Can’t say enough fantastic little carry gun. And the best thing is you don’t mind caring it because it’s not your most expensive gun.

[@greggwonder2199]

👍Thks for that ammo test. Your vid solved my accuracy prob i have with that G3. Was using 115gn Rem at 4yds and getting embarrassing results. Now i feel better about that gun. Thks again.✌🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@CorkScrewDood]

Could still be you though.

[@brycemorrill8764]

Great video. Been carrying a p95 for 16 years as my duty gun and had to sell it when I retired due to the Times. Looking for an inexpensive gun for my RV.

[@thelatenightbar]

That was interesting. never seen a video like this to demonstrate such information. Just recently got the G3c, thanks for sharing !

[@lonestar6457]

Really great informative and no BS!

[@Bill23799]

Ransom Rest: On the Fiocchi group that flyer was me.

[@vaughnsadekni665]

Man it sounds like someome needs a neti pot. Thanks for the video. Heard some pretty excellent things coming from Taurus.

[@user-vx4ts8vm1l]

Please test more models! Awesome results

[@coltonbird678]

I noticed on the second group of the remington 124 the sight picture shifted left. The aim was slightly left at first but the first shot made it more left. I own one of these and have put them through the same hole at 15yrds

[@marioesquibel2584]

I noticed too, don’t like the fact that he is only using one beast clamp in the front, beast clamps are not ment to hold in place while you are hammering. Maybe anchor bolt down the ransom at four points would be more accurate results.

[@xmrpaintx1]

Owned my g3c toro for a few months now... Mine has been flawless after 600 or so FMJ and jhp of various kinds, and surprisingly accurate... I can easily hit beer cans at 15-20 yards. Maybe I got lucky?

[@marvknox8196]

THANK YOU !! I just purchased my 1st hand gun. And decided upon this Taurus G3C. And was very curious which Ammo I should go with. YOU have saved me a ton of $ and Time. Much Appreciated..

[@larrylinn1221]

I have been using CCI Blazer 115 gran for target practice. I do pretty good with it but not that good. Great video very educational thank y’all.

[@Matt_justlikethat]

Excellent test video 👍👍👍 Thanks Matt

[@DieuEtMonDroit230]

"If you're not testing you're guessing.". Thanks for that test. I'll be checking your channel now to see what else you've tested. P.S. I made the same "20 lb trigger pull" about the staple gun a second before I heard your colleague make the joke. Thanks for the empirical data.

[@eddiewhite5758]

Good job

[@jdsolberg7613]

Hope to see this with the GX4.

[@jimbiggerstaff5228]

Just bought a G3C. This is a very good test and a very informative video. Great job on the video!

[@fromthefuture9353]

very impressed with your presentation, Sir.

[@robertcolpitts4534]

Every pistol is different. I have one that shoots aluminum-cased Blazer ammo into a ragged hole at 15 yards while another produces 7-inch groups at the same distance with the same ammunition.

[@luismaldonado707]

I like so much your highly technical assessment! Now i will use 147-150Gr amunition. In my first day shooting with my G3C mi shots landed mostly low left. Thanks!!!

[@luismaldonado707]

Shots- landed....

[@willieschoeman7843]

Same here man

[@michaelhenderson5098]

Me too...on several guns including G26 and G19, and a S&W SDEv9. So yeah, operator error on my part. Love the G3c w/factory 15 rd mag. Perfect EDC for me. I sold the G26 and put the profit on an AR build! :)

[@Anonymous_________]

@@michaelhenderson5098 G3c come with 3, 12 round factory mags , the G3x comes with both the 15-17 round standard mags.

[@killacoiler1707]

I would be interested in seeing accuracy of defensive loads for this firearm. I own one and I prefer heavier loads for defense but would be interested in seeing what performs well in this. I have been looking at the Fort Scott TUI 9mm which is a solid spun copper projectile that has been claimed to have pinpoint accuracy. However, I have never seen anyone else do the battery of testing that you did in this video. Fort Scott TUI rounds are rather light, though, with some being only 80gr and nearly 1400 fps. In a defensive situation a person would not likely be 15 yards away engaging a target at that distance they would fire a shot and look for cover. Most defensive engagements would be under 10 yards and more than likely be under or at 5 to 7 yards which will significantly shrink the group size. Thanks for the video. I will seek out all 147 grain for training from now on to see if that increases my accuracy with this little critter. I thought it was me because my groups with 115gr and 124gr is garbage.

[@tltsw]

All my G series pistols and even my TH9c shoot very well with 135-147 grain ammo. I plink with 115 but fyi all Taurus g pistols love the heavy stuff

[@kevinbrown7900]

Thanks bro. Just picked up a G3c and this helps a lot. Also anyone else thinking Stegal? 😂

[@Roboticdoughbull3k]

You I believe meant to say planned before that demic part of your opening right, most everyone understands that by now I hope. Great video I much appreciate the detailed testing and results. No lack of chemsky trails over that way either, wow just getting everyone left, right and from above. I smh

[@Snowman366]

Thanks for taking the time and trouble to do this. Appreciate it very much...!

[@Bonneycc1]

Just found this. Great video!!!

[@road5971]

You can upgrade your Taurus G3C slide for a Toro slide with all the plates for $150.00

[@lonestar6457]

Geat video! I need to get some 147 gram for my G3C!

[@Kuttshxtjerry]

Picking my fde up tomorrow 🥲

[@ryand5041]

Great info. Not sure how well 147 would expand out of this short barrel however.

[@geckomabster1625]

this is very useful, can you try other guns like Canik TP9 ELITE SC?

[@willieschoeman7843]

He sounds like a bingo announcer awesome testing man

[@williamwise9337]

Well Done !! Very informative. My Buddy Tj also impressed. Thanks

[@DDPAV]

Dang that explains a lot about my G3C for sure. No doubt the experts at the range are correct that it's my grip (new-ish to handguns) but I can see where shooting 115 grain isn't helping. Also see where a little windage adjustment wouldn't hurt my cause either.

[@jeremyduncan8030]

Great demo review.

[@RH-su3nj]

I really appreciate this video now really let my Forest G3 watch

[@petermccuskey1832]

Thank you for your information

[@Mitch-BladeCaptain]

I'd like to see this on the G3 at 25 yards... but honestly, this was a pretty awesome test. Thank you.

[@Mitch-BladeCaptain]

@Paul Clarke I actually wasn't thinking about the aspects of it in the Self Defense Role, but in the range/fun time poking holes in targets aspect. One needs good range time to keep their SHTF time in good order. Besides, few people do as well in live action as they do on the range.

[@los6584]

I had similar grouping. Glad to know it's not me and I'll be getting 147 grain from now on

[@pedal2dametal686]

Great informative video!

[@MarvinSheats]

Very helpful. Thanks so much

[@jz0111]

You aim it all the way to the left from the cam

[@l.a.3887]

Thanks for the information

[@constitutionalright827]

Really should have done more of the 115.. from a science perspective, that would have had value rather than just assume it hates all lighter rounds. But in your video, you can do what ya want.

[@escapevelocity01]

Only a few minutes in but you said it comes with 2 mags but it does come with 3 magazines

[@Ransomrest]

Sorry about that, we added a caption at the bottom, but it does pan and get hid by the video. Thank you for mentioning it, I realize I made that mistake. Good watching out my friend.

[@knuxklez27]

Lol faaacts . I got mine like damn they think imma be in a shootout with this thing 😂😂😂

[@TheRealBiggDeal]

One of the reviews that I've ever seen, great job.

[@WE.R.NOT.OK.W.U.TRMP_GTFO]

I think maybe a a quick first lube would have been a good idea. the storage lube is barely existent on a lot of new guns. (if he lubed it, and I missed it, I apologize, I am not a pro...and he looks like he knows what's up, so I'll assume he did, and stfu lol).

[@dougd5527]

Great review, one of the best!

[@jimforrester9776]

I have the G2C and found its not bullet weight but bullet right away I got the gun and the shop only had aguila 115 grain FMJ ammo got 200 rounds was not impressed with the 3 to 4 inch groups off hand then I got some federal and Winchester 115 grain FMJ ammo and the groups cut in half to under 2 inch off hand at 10 yards I did notice the bullet length of the aguila was a little shorter the the other bullets

[@cometcal2]

So... perhaps the ammo brand may be a major consideration for accuracy?

[@wbr300]

Very helpful video!

[@Anonymous_________]

I'm glad I bought some 124 federal punch then. Wish I'd of gotten some heavier before seeing this. But I don't thing you can return ammo haha.

[@smiffythecat3751]

Very well done. Thank you.

[@user-vx4ts8vm1l]

Great test!

[@BAD4U22]

Great vid. Very great info

[@Patriot-1]

Oh man…. Dress this guy up like Steven Segal & make a comedy/parody video…. It would definitely go viral …. Whacha think ???

[@ZwyK__TV]

Good job!

[@johnvarro5094]

Heavier ammo is the best.. I'll try it.

[@knuxklez27]

When I take my G3 to the range I hope my sights are as legit as his GEESH !!!

[@carlmontney7916]

Based on this video i tried some Fiocchi 147 FMJ and JHP in my G3c and my pistol also likes the 147 Fiocchi ammo.

[@jonnyares1]

This is my carry gun. I feel like I get better groups at 15 yards.

[@Bredaxe]

Man this would be my dream job.

[@PilotIndex]

Who knew that even fatter Steven seagal knew a lot about firearms.

[@grunwald1]

Now test Sig 365 and Hellcat with the same ammo - 1 mil views guaranteed:), subscribed!

[@daleweller5193]

Put a dial indicator on your Ransom rest to make sure it is registering the same each time.

[@rheuss1]

Bought one of these a month ago. Ran everything but 147. Fail to feed heavy hollow points. Not really failed tp feed but failed to ho completely into battery .

[@shuumai]

Do a plunk test and make sure the bullet isn't hitting the rifling when chambering.

[@jonathanbyron2958]

After these tests ..which ammo would you prefer for the g3c?

[@genitun]

Excelente teste. Parabéns. Mereceu a inscrição no canal. Obrigado.

[@stephencobb4417]

Great video. What American Eagle tested so well at the end? 147? 124? I couldn’t tell from that video. Thanks!

[@d3v03d]

147...box looked like 147gr FMJ FP Federal American Eagle (AE9FP)

[@floridaaerialmedia]

I'm gonna tell my kids this is Steven Seagal!

[@thomasromans9110]

Site moving on gun!?

[@yohan4718]

Hi Guys. Great video, thank you now I know what ammo to buy for my G3c. I also purchased a Canik TP9SF Elite and I was wondering if you guys can also make a video with the Canik. Thank you.

[@talhaarmschannel]

Waiting for M9 test

[@icebergism]

great video,thanks

[@ChaddL]

I got the G3 so should I upgrade to the 147 grain myself then?

[@Ransomrest]

I would give it a try. No barrel is the same. No gun is the same. But given this test and the machining standards of today. It is a good place to start for your G3. Thanks for your interest in our video, and the comment. Hope this info helps.

[@ChaddL]

@@Ransomrest Yeah it does, and thanks for taking the time to answer too.

[@davidkachel]

Thanks. You educated me on your rest. Now I know I would get no benefit from one.

[@SnipeU696]

Suggestion. A S.A. XD45 4" service pistol?

[@paulhughes3961]

In the event I have to use my gun for self defense I would say I have very good shot at defeating my attacker !

[@shortyp]

Do you mean 🤔 it? has three magazines instead of two

[@Ransomrest]

Yep, sorry about that, recording live videos of pour test all the bumps and hiccups get on camera to, As we like to say real world data real world test. Real world mistakes haha

[@juryjury5620]

Exelente

[@vincentmurphy9252]

Love my G3

[@BAD4U22]

Awesome

[@randallhouse2772]

In breaking a gun in you will get a lot of variances in accuracy until broke in….

[@Ransomrest]

We are aware of this. Thank you for your view and comment.

[@ddr874]

My G2C liked 147gr best.

[@per_lunam_per_solem_ad_creator]

Thanks... At 30:42 all I see are the skies painted with chemtrails. ;)

[@my93vr4]

I have it and I like it a lot

[@joshmajor8662]

Surely you see your not exactly on target, right?? Lol You've got the front sight to left more than it's centered haha Interesting video tho!! You need to cut it WAY down but great content.

[@Tactical_reload]

Anyone know what twist the barrel is?

[@zakattack467]

I'm new to hand guns and bought a 1000 count bulk pack of 115 gr with my g3c. I've been practicing at 20 yards and can't hit for shit. Maybe I should get a 1000 count box of 147 gr and another pistol that likes the 115 gr

[@hulado]

hold it with a death grip. put the first joint of your trigger finger on trigger face. don't close your eyes when pulling the trigger. seriously. even pros sometimes flinch. practice by dry-fireing an UNLOADED pistol. always always always check for empty chamber before dry-fireing. always. it can happen to you.

[@zakattack467]

@@hulado thanks for the tips. I practice dry firing all the time (I do check every time for empty chamber). One thing I've noticed compared to a p365 and shield plus is that my g3c trigger is a bit more harsh and the entire gun moves just from the inertia of the striker. I have to hold onto it like I'm choking out Reese witherspoon in a wet dream I order for it not to move at trigger strike, where as with a p365 or shield plus I don't have to be holding so tight. Maybe I'll have to go get a p365 haha. My 1911 has a 3 lb trigger and I don't have any issues with it at all.

[@Anonymous_________]

It's also a self defence trigger, so you have to cut it some slack.

[@lelonbond6682]

remingtons last owners let quality control lapse for profit.