Taylormade SIM & SIM Max Drivers | Initial Testing at the Kingdom

[@stealthskater66]

I love Ian’s attitude about club fitting. He doesn’t seem jealous or trying to rush to his turn. He seems genuinely excited to see Matt hit and then fit him into a better setup. You guys are the best channel for golf by far

[@0xMarcJ]

Stealthknight 87 agreee!

[@ritchiemclean]

Ian's attitude towards golf and club fitting is spot on!

[@En5an3]

I truly believe that Matt is one of the best ball strikers on the planet right now. Class video as always lads.

[@golfatit3140]

I have the new stealth 2 .. keep going back to my sim max . It’s hard to beat !

[@blarsen8]

I think what most people miss when they are “testing,” or “reviewing” clubs is fitting it to the person with shafts, grips, weights, lengths, lies, etc... Its so individual and not always the off the shelf club. Cool video.

[@gereeezya.2141]

Ian deserves so much credit with his analysis. Always wait for TXG reviews! Matty the swing is looking fluid!

[@aidangriffiths5075]

3 videos at the same time? Yes please!

[@diegoricol97]

Waking up to a TXG video, and it being about new product, really gives me the morning boost you guys get from your jungle juice!

[@westonmaughan26]

Just from what I’ve seen so far, I’m willing to say that this is probably the best driver TM has ever made. I’m really excited to see MOI and CGNA location. I’ve got a decent idea of where these are going to be located.

[@westonmaughan26]

J yeah, the one with a Titleist hat on LOL! Just being honest.

[@kw12784]

Really impressive hitting Matt! That's some tour sauce right there. Great video also, excited to test these out myself now

[@paulbown3960]

Can’t wait to see you fit Matt for one! He hit it better than I imagined

[@Somefatdude]

Santa was supposed to bring me Matty’s speed for Christmas.

[@ianstyring9602]

Great 1st test guys. Love it. Can't wait to demo these.

[@TheOgieone]

I learn something new ever time I watch one of your videos, great work!

[@zacharymilos392]

I've been waiting for a more forgiving SLDR now for about 5 years; something I can play in a higher loft to help with control but still spins low enough to help get some distance.

[@elongatedmusket5630]

1.49 smash factor every swing! Gr8 work....

[@steinfonell4915]

what a great start of the TXG year...

[@juwadanah]

wow Matty, swing is looking great! These drivers seem very interesting . Hoping this year I come finally come and get fitted.

[@qnpmh]

BEAUTIFUL BALANCE AND POWER MATT!!!

[@roykullick5273]

Matt taking an easy warm up swing....at my max speed :)

[@nigelshaw1417]

You are the best, wow.Great watch yet again.

[@Knickerson]

The good news? Price drop on M5/M6 drivers for TaylorMade fans. Cobra’s F9/SZ design beat them to it, already. It’d be good to see back-to-back tests on them with the SIM. Luckily for me I gave blood last year for my Ping G410, so I’m good for another five or ten years. EDIT: To be clear, thanks to Ian and Matt for bringing the news. You guys are aces.

[@banditbaker1675]

My email box is full of KZbin alerts so it must be the release date for new TM Drivers! Rather than waste the day ploughing through them all I'm just going to watch the TXG review because I know that I can trust their conclusions without the BS! Easy!!!

[@clubchampionmedia]

👍👍👍👍

[@clubchampionmedia]

yes we do have videos coming from the studio soon - and no we did not conclude that it's no different from any driver from 2019

[@banditbaker1675]

@@jonpink4239 Sorry, I cannot agree with your comment, I have been following TXG vids since they started and I have never detected any bias. I have also visited the TXG HQ for a fitting and they are the most unbiased facility in golf IMHO.

[@banditbaker1675]

@@jonpink4239 Which I am sure will be coming shortly. But I am struggling with the choice of words that you are using, "not the environment for a full honest unbiased review" to me implies that you think that their review was in some way "dishonest". I suspect that that can be applied to a number of channels and their reviews, but certainly could not be applicable to TXG. But I do agree with you that the days of major distance gains is clearly a thing of the past (unless the USGA and R&A relax their performance limits), but I strongly suspect that the theme for drivers this year will be improved forgiveness and playability (which is far more beneficial to golfers of all abilities).

[@mahykuhl]

Been waiting on this one... can’t wait to play golf with Kenny

[@bradthomson2699]

I really think drivers have reached their max regarding distance and forgiveness, we're now only paying for the look and appearance

[@bradthomson2699]

@@jonpink4239 nah there has been improvements regarding super low spin drivers to go a mile, but they reached the max at 2018, with drivers such as the epic flash sub zero, and the cobra speed back

[@lawlessplays5098]

@@jonpink4239 I'm almost positive he said speed, and forgiveness...your comment is 100% negative and helps no one. Driver technology did not max out 10 years ago, period.

[@bradthomson2699]

@@jonpink4239 it didn't max out 10 years ago, forgiveness is far better, also lower spin with drivers means more carry, but I feel like it's definetly maxed out now imo

[@bradthomson2699]

@@jonpink4239 I don't know about tour, but I know someone who used to spin the ball so much with high cuts, he got a low spin driver and boom he hit it 30 yards longer

[@bradthomson2699]

@@jonpink4239 not if a person hits the ball with alot of spin

[@banditbaker1675]

Regarding the cosmetics of the new SIM Drivers, it looks like the love child of the SLDR and the Cobra F9 (but thankfully without the black/yellow colour combo). So, given the numbers are we right to assume that Matty sneaked one out down his trouser leg? An I'm guessing that Mr Fraser approves of the colour scheme?

[@clubchampionmedia]

he certainly does

[@banditbaker1675]

@@clubchampionmedia Yep, thought he would lol

[@maddad4767]

Me thinks the blue matches his new wedges...

[@banditbaker1675]

@@maddad4767 Yep sounds like a colour match...

[@dimemmo]

Awesome video you guys are the best!

[@paulkenney2663]

So can we expect the M5/M6 to drop in price?

[@josephinecampbell3196]

Good review . But love my Cobra

[@DanielRodrigues-hn8cx]

At this point any differences between drivers in the last few years, Maybe 1 or 2 mph"? I think a fit is more important than having the new product on the market.

[@stanthomas9890]

Outstanding!

[@aaronkennon]

Good marketing of basically a nominal improvement. But hey I will take it. By the time I upgrade my driver it should be a bigger improvement.

[@stewpaddas4540]

Ian = Yoda Matt= Luke

[@samshort7664]

Time Traveler Update: Our boy Matty gained a lot of swing speed, but maintained his cyborg consistency and accuracy. There must have been a robot update. God blesh'ya Matty Boy (and Ian).

[@thechaa3176]

Matt hits it 1st time n carry 290 Prof Ian tinkers for 5mins and Matt bombs it 305 carry. Can somebody give this genius a Nobel Prize pls

[@bl_pga]

Sweet can’t wait to see this one

[@kourt2469]

Whats the differences between trackman and gc quad? I hit on a trackman for my first time ever last week using any launch monitor. I was getting crazy spin variations. Had an 8 iron spinning over 14,000 rpm sometimes. Then I’d have a 5 iron spinning 2,000. After some research I learned you need to use metallic dots on the ball with trackman indoors, the facility didn’t have any and had no idea you needed them. Is trackman better outdoors than gc quad? Would be interesting to see a short video on the pros and cons between the two which would help us better understand how to interpret the data when we go for fittings.

[@clubchampionmedia]

we find Quad more reliable indoors, Trackman definitely has its advantages outdoors

[@xstevex59]

I've heard that these are going to come stock with the Fujikura Ventus shaft.... tell me this is true...))

[@wally6193]

What shaft is Matt using, was this driver setup for his normal specs? Whoops, I see you already said what the shaft was in the comments below.

[@jonnyhall5517]

Do we know what the stock shaft offerings will be? Same as M5/6?

[@MikeDoba]

Hitting in a bay but seeing your ball flight then looking at numbers is the way.

[@leejukes7995]

I’m so please to say that I’ve found exactly the same things as Matt with the sim, super stable in comparison to last years M5 which I had. This is such a forgiving club, in comparison, that begs to be smacked. Was very disappointed in the Cobra SZ, I had the matt white version and that cracked twice, in two days with less than 20 balls struck - got to be a design fault - have you guys seen anything like that in Canada yet?

[@tlg6339]

I'm curious as to the driver length and what shaft he is using.

[@guitarsandgolfballs]

Hi lads, just curious as to how the design on the bottom affects the cc's of the club, eg is the head smaller?

[@williamreitinger8898]

Have the manufacturers reached their technical limitations with the distance/USGA conformance standards?

[@kourt2469]

William Reitinger yeah all manufactures have hit the limit of COR probably 10+ years ago.

[@Foregrlz]

SLDR with tons of forgiveness added? Sign me up

[@plus2golfer12]

So basically I'll be sticking with my m3 or going to speedzone or g410lst... My entire bag was taylormade for 15 years... Now the m3 is the only one.. Mizuno irons, cobra fw hybrids, vokey wedges... Taylormade just isn't miles ahead like they used to be... ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY JUST MADE THEIR VERSION OF F9/SPEEDZONE

[@rp6163]

Did Matty's numbers require some level calibration recognizing this video was driven by TrackMan/radar versus his typical GC Quad/camera generated numbers ?

[@clubchampionmedia]

For sure, luckily Ian is very familiar with both systems so he can decipher as needed. Clubhead speed is the variable that stands out between the two, ball speed is consistent.

[@stevecon3951]

I like the look

[@ayjie6829]

Look forward to hitting my 915 tomorrow

[@oldgold5848]

Not your usual club head speed Matty, and didn't you get 180 ball speed out of the F9 beast mode.... Were you taking it relatively easy? ;)

[@clubchampionmedia]

swing speed is definitely down from the F9 testing days, but relatively the ball speeds were still good

[@oldgold5848]

@@clubchampionmedia indeed, and way better than mine sadly.....

[@robbiles]

Lofting up, have I gone back in time to SLDR.

[@aspicer22]

What shaft did you use for the tests

[@ShmeeOakee]

Was there any options for stock shafts mentioned? I heard a rumor about a Ventus being offered in the SIM.

[@ShmeeOakee]

Jake Hurst awesome. Thanks!

[@raginasianinvasion]

Keep in mind Ventus Blue and Red will be off the shelf stock only in the Sim Max. Standard Sim comes stock with HZRDUS so the Ventus will be custom order 0 upcharge only. No big deal but just wanted you to be aware

[@brewssssss_]

What shaft was in the driver? Or what’s the stock shaft? I’ll be getting fit but just curious

[@clubchampionmedia]

stock shaft, HZRDUS

[@stephendibari7704]

What shaft does Matt have there !?

[@clubchampionmedia]

stock HZRDUS shaft

[@stephendibari7704]

TXG Tour Experience Golf black or yellow? That’s a $100 shaft, amazing. Just goes to show a $100 shaft is just as good as an Accra ($350) or TOUR AD ($350 +) and Fujikura Atmos Tour Spec ($300). Right ?

[@clubchampionmedia]

wouldn't make any conclusions from it, all down to fitting and whether it pairs up well with the clubhead and the player's swing

[@stephendibari7704]

TXG Tour Experience Golf awesome. I sort of figured it’s not just black & white. Like you said there are a lot of factors involved in pairing up the clubhead to the shaft

[@paulbown3960]

What is the head weight on these? Always found the TM drivers to be a bit too light for my liking

[@clubchampionmedia]

exactly the same as last year's drivers in head weight

[@wally6193]

@@clubchampionmedia which was what?

[@randymahony8157]

Looks like a F9 on the bottom or the speed zone. With sliding weight.

[@aconsaul9065]

When you use the term "stable" what do u mean? Accuracy?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Mishit performance, MOI, etc

[@raginasianinvasion]

Impressive numbers. Everyone I’ve seen hit these at my local shop has seen gains, this may be the first TM driver I put in the bag since the OG 16 M2. If these can keep up or beat my G410 numbers I may need to fly in for a fitting!

[@raginasianinvasion]

J P interesting!

[@MXJEFF94]

I have the G410 and it’s an amazing driver in terms of forgiveness and I play it specifically because it’s a fairway finder... but I will say the TM, Sub zero, and TS3 all had 3-5mph more ball speed.

[@golfnut0114]

Glad cosmetically they have gone back to the white face line.

[@andrewwolf4963]

i feel like taylormade has mastered the ability to make people buy drivers ever year or two , using that chalk white color your driver gets so old looking like i hate chalk putters lol i’ve been avoiding hitting the new Sim lol

[@jameswalton2845]

Ian what shoes are you wearing??

[@edthompson7728]

I was wondering the same thing! Love this channel!!

[@steveberens9593]

SIM - slightly improved marketing

[@saranshsaxena7090]

Hey guys I love the content and your channel so much great info. Why does trackman have a different club speed then quad and smash factor, which systems club speed is accurate ,and what is a realistic smash factor

[@clubchampionmedia]

they read the clubhead a bit differently. Trackman 1.50 smash factor is usually the maximum, and 1.45 on Quad. You'll see higher clubhead speed readings on Quad

[@keithingle2119]

@@clubchampionmedia I've been wondering this for ages, so both read ball speeds accurately, but the swing speeds differ rather drastically. Sure for such expensive pieces of equipment they should both be very accurate...so the real question is, who is more accurate on swingspeed????

[@kourt2469]

Keith Ingle depends the club shape and the delivery. They both measure speed differently from what I understand so you can see variations.

[@scottc4974]

I really enjoy your channel but can you have an average golfer to test clubs as well.

[@jmarsh22]

Jesus, this guy just bombs it 300+ yards.

[@randyblankenship8781]

whats interesting watching someone else review this club and moved the weights around and it did nothing. He put weights to fade and draw and hit the same type of shots.

[@mikeoxley9796]

It's highly likely it's because the other guys swing isn't anywhere near as consistent as Matt's.

[@randyblankenship8781]

Mike Oxley I get maybe Rick Shiels isnt as consistent as Matt but I think Rick is pretty decent.

[@mikeoxley9796]

@@randyblankenship8781 Matt is as close to a swing robot as you can get and is the perfect guy to test clubs like this. Rick is a decent player but is pretty inconsistent with the driver. In his test if he hit the ball consistently he would have seen a similar flight pattern with each shot. It's just the nature of the moveable weight.

[@PowersFamily2011]

What was the shaft stiffness/grams in these?

[@clubchampionmedia]

I believe they were 60-X

[@wesi782]

Just imagine they going to give it to Tiger. And he says. "Nope I will stick with the one that won the master" :P

[@wesi782]

Anyway.The drivers look so "Adams.. ish"

[@NikBesko]

How do his numbers compare to the m5 and m6?

[@clubchampionmedia]

videos on that coming later this week

[@NikBesko]

@@clubchampionmedia awesome glad to hear. If they are really close I'll just wait for the m series to drop in price. I'm going to be scheduling a fitting with your team in the spring time you're not too far from my work. See you then

[@wrightman1185]

Matty Pop the fuji 2.0 in and have head to head with the cobra f9.

[@robertireland2888]

Every driver test on KZbin should have a 2016 M2 propped up against the wall. Do the testing, get the numbers of the new driver. Then have the tester immediately hit the M2. I bet the numbers would be almost identical. Love the channel by the way. But its increasingly difficult to buy into the manufacturers bull sh 1t when they release new clubs so often.

[@kourt2469]

Robert Ireland simple solution. just don’t buy their new stuff then. Every Company releases new product constantly. New vehicles release every year. New phone model every year. Etc. etc.

[@duffinjp]

SLDR 2020

[@adambryant747]

Are we not going to talk about how much taylormade is ripping off Cobra?!

[@zajagter2888]

Long story short for the SIM; Just slightly better marketing

[@Bill-jv5eg]

Great Marketing,,,,,will it go in my bag, not until they loose the white trim,,,,,,,

[@frogginbullfish8777]

@0:50 Bob Weeks!!

[@TheMuffs2004]

If was completely put off by the original pictures of these drivers because I thought you would be able to see that "wing" when you set the club down. Thankfully you guys you can't.

[@clubchampionmedia]

yup looks clean at address

[@TheMuffs2004]

TXG Tour Experience Golf Awesome. I’ve tried the TS3 and 4 and loved them. Waiting to try the Mavrik and SIM before final decisions will be made.

[@BillyTheKidAudit]

It sounds like its rattling, almost like the shaft screw is loose.....not a big fan of the sound

[@ianfrasergolf]

poe's ReLiC the sound wasn’t great in the test bay. I think most will really like the live acoustics.

[@kalemitchell1979]

Does this just prove how juiced up GC quad is with their numbers?

[@clubchampionmedia]

which variable do you think was reading different than Quad?

[@kalemitchell1979]

TXG Tour Experience Golf watch all your videos. Never seen Matt’s speed so low. My findings are the same with quad. Really rewards the high launch low spin bomb. On quad these would be in the 315 or more carry

[@clubchampionmedia]

clubhead speed reads slower on Trackman than Quad, ball speed is the same though. If these drivers were 300-400rpm lower in spin you'd see that extra 5-10 yards carry

[@sodawaterlime]

304 carry .. jeez

[@darrenbell6376]

Amongst all this marketing bullshit and the ridiculous hyped up prices it all boils down to getting a proper fitting to optimise your swing to fit a club. So many people stay loyal to a brand even though they would get better numbers from playing another brand.

[@willschmitt349]

Sim?! Wtf.... ya I hit the sim driver... that sounds dumb. All I use is TaylorMade so I’m very loyal to the brand. Driver looks beautiful but why such a dumb name. Why not just M7 and M8?

[@wannabegolfin24-72]

Oh, so taylormade is selling last years cobra speedback!

[@OpaKnows]

Now test with average humans, please.

[@paulhynes9568]

Taylormade literally just copied everything cobra did last year with the speedback including the marketing words. Only thing they didn't steal was the color scheme 😂

[@raginasianinvasion]

Paul Hynes the M6 has the inertia generator.... and both the M6 and F9 came out at the same time last year... they didn’t copy Cobra.

[@kevink6513]

5th

[@nelsonjames1272]

Unless your driver is 5 years old or you just have to have the latest, you’re wasting your money.

[@garythomson4536]

2nd comment Been waiting on this video!!

[@FlyboyAF22]

Borrowed head design from Cobra F9 Speedback?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Foregrlz]

M6 had SIMilar wing

[@hicharbud]

This channel has couple things that are weird: Lefthander golfer(tester) and a guy who is difficult to understand with his accent.

[@clubchampionmedia]

Ok Don, if swinging left handed and being Scottish are too weird for you then maybe this channel isn’t for you. 🤦‍♂️

[@gamingwithwarbucks3863]

I think it looks like a cheap big box store driver!!

[@TimmyP_]

Ian, I like you... but SIM is not a great name (nor is “SpeedZone”. And “Maverick” is questionable) With drivers obviously hitting limits across the board, do you think it’s actually more beneficial for brands to have a 2 year cycle like Ping and Titliest? Rather than repainting an M6 crossed with SLDR, perhaps waiting and extra year and really developing a (potentially) bigger change from the previous model will create more trust in the evolution of these brands..?

[@clubchampionmedia]

these are a very big improvement over last year's drivers, we have comparison videos with M5 and M6 coming later this week

[@TimmyP_]

TXG Tour Experience Golf - Looking forward to it, love the channel! Keep up the great content lads 👍🏻

[@thebassstalkers6260]

What shaft where you using during this test?

[@clubchampionmedia]

stock shaft HZDRUS

[@thebassstalkers6260]

@@clubchampionmedia Thanks. You guys are awesome