AE86 vintage nostalgia build. part 2. Webers and first startup!

[@smithshift386]

I'm so happy to finally see someone keep the 4AG and actually show what it can do.

[@Burley_Bert]

Well it can do everything 120hp can do, It's all about the sound!

[@bossvitorcunha]

you can check my channel for more 4age 7age content 😅

[@bossvitorcunha]

@@RobertLiggett thats not the point of this car

[@danielamorim2909]

I know right. The 4AGE is always so easily over looked. Not saying that it will make a million horsepower, because it won't, but the rawness and simplicity of the 4AGE is hard to beat. And the sound, don't even get me started!

[@RobertLiggett]

@@danielamorim2909 4ag is good I honestly would take a ae86 with a Northstar v8 if I could lol I just wanted to see what would happen if I brought up jimmy oaks 86

[@user-tw9su8rb9j]

I remember Taylor saying no engine degreaser works good that’s why he buys the oven cleaner’s from the dollar store😅

[@andrewkelly3702]

Same lol especially the 5 billion times he pulled the engine when the Miata had a turbo

[@patonb]

True, butt Oven cleaner is an entirely different use. It's more of a heavy degreaser/cleaner and needs to be washed after with water.

[@i-_-am-_-g1467]

@@patonb exactly this, "oven cleaner/lye" is sodium hydroxide which is a corrosive and will eat aluminium for breakfast, people use it to remove aluminium clots from metal files. A good brake cleaner is just a denatured alcohol with no additive (cheap ones will include crap like chlorine which leaves a white residue when dry)

[@DaveScottADV]

Yeah be very careful with aluminum. oven cleaner etched some of the aluminum parts on my 4g63 pretty badly.

[@Taylordrifts]

That was also before I found this. All the ones I had tried were useless. Oven cleaner was just the move because it was a dollar at the dollar store. Lol

[@Frank-oz7ph]

shout out Josue for always being there to help

[@brucepeters631]

Shoutout to the blaster Corp. I live in the north east so you know I’ve been good friends with pb blaster since my first wrenches turned on my first car.

[@SirVic42]

Second that shout out. It's a great match of product and promoter, as Taylor obviously loves using their stuff and provides great demonstrations of it in action.

[@Featherdwlf]

I third this as someone who lives in the north Midwest

[@IDlikeanEvo]

I love the way you approach your build, step by step with a lot of logic and calculation before starting to work on something. Its easy to say that its not your first rodeo, I've been following you for the last 7 years and you've come so far ! Awesome to see you work ! Love the new merch and the upcoming buid/content keep it up man.

[@IDlikeanEvo]

@Greg Jenko I wont try to change your mind and change your opinion ! But as you said if you're a new viewer , stick around ! You'll see what a mean, a car is not build/tested in 1 week with only a one guy army :) there's a procedure before making a car crazy or to dump 30k in it just like that, he has other things to focus and build on his channel ! We can't really blame him for leaving a car in the back for X period of time and start piling pieces for it in the back ,while working on something elses ! And as far as saying "winging it" its the 2nd video on the 86 lol , he just came out a 51 videos series just for the vette.. If that's just winging it, he got alot of Wing to give ! Anyway I can understand what u say

[@IDlikeanEvo]

@Greg Jenko no worries ,i'm not offended and you're making good points ! Its good geting different point of view , even for Taylor , he can read that and evolve around what new viewer feel ! Constructive comment are always the best one ! ' also sorry if I type weird , i'm french '

[@mc66683]

Bet you could make a simple bracket to mount the ignition box next to the fuse box if you wanted to keep it on the same side as the distributor rather than having to route wires across the car.

[@AJ-nh8ik]

I just love that there are still some people around who are keeping the classics alive. Late 80s thru 2000 was the pinnacle of JDM vehicles. Sometimes I wish I never got rid of mine. I would've had a nasty rotary swap in it if I would have kept it, but I had found an FC at the right price at the right time.

[@watersmart1]

48 DCOEs are kinda big for that engine. Lots of jetting ahead and perhaps some different chokes.

[@waynemangion1487]

I love watching peoples builds. Can I suggest two things: 1/ twin carbs accelerator linkage is better pulled from the middle of the two carbs. Off the side can cause twisted shafts. 2/ I hope you are going to make a shield over that msd box. Carbs sneezing fuel over an electrical box may not be ideal

[@upurkilt7246]

I love a good old set up with carbs coming from a old skool ford background with mk1/mk2 escorts and a plethera of others in scotland. But just as a wee suggestion there is a company that produces a carb setup that is actually fuel injection. Its called the jenvey heritage DCOE throttle body its designed to look like a set of webbers but all the injectors are hidden away inside where the floats and jets would be. Old skool bits with new skool tricks lol.

[@mmodtomic7119]

Dual Webers like that can be a PITA to keep balanced and tuned. They aren't like fuel injected ITBs. I'm sure with your welder's patience you won't have too many issues.

[@coltengottschalk1049]

The fact that I’m watching you build this 86 and jimmy building his is sick.

[@Hi.Im.Andrew]

I’ve seen a few 86s with the MSD in the cabin of the car. On the passenger floor or under the dash

[@jamesclev9]

Make a bracket to mount msd right next to the fusebox

[@jamest5149]

Weld a brace on the throttle cable bracket, it will flex and eventually crack otherwise. Just needs a little triangulation.

[@kelvinarreola]

Get it running! Then make it look nice! Some people have that backwards!

[@edwardbusby4401]

Awesome to see you and JimmyO working on the 86's. After both are done, there should be a collab!

[@kumag807]

Usually we mount msd's inside the cabin. Ex. under the dash 🙂

[@shannacollins4741]

You and Jimmy definitely have to get yalls 86s together when he gets his finished ! Happy to see the AE86 ripping Taylor next up a Levin build ?

[@Ghostneocz]

Dustin is also on his AE86 build

[@shannacollins4741]

@@Ghostneocz oh yeah damn i forgot about Dustin to your right its gonna be a hella good time with 4 Hachiroku's ripping the back roads if they ever get them all together ! DeNofa has one to ! But personally i think Jimmys would smoke everybody elses 86s just cause the K swap and everybody else is running either stock or slightly modded !

[@KableTac]

jimmy wont ever finish his. the way he talks about it and looks at it it feels more like a youtube video than him actually wanting to do it

[@shannacollins4741]

@@KableTac he just started fitting the bodykit on it yesterday i hope it gets done and ready to drive soon !

[@Taylordrifts]

I’m excited to drive with Chelsea in his!

[@shadowred1980]

A tip from your motorcycle friends. If you want to run the engine longer use a gravity feed from a container above the carbs. The pump is only needed because the tank is below them. All the best and hope to hear this on the street soon.

[@olivermolteno7876]

Weber carbs are very sensitive to fuel pressure so it's not ideal to gravity feed these as you get less pressure as the fuel level goes down

[@nikb412]

Side drafts look sharp. At least you found them now, not right after you finish the build

[@buddyschnaars851]

your ""Old School"" mechanical lesson has just started!! wish you all the best! been watching you from day one awsome!!!

[@JamieRogers95]

I really enjoy this "breaking my own rules" kind of build. I can imagine its so easy to follow a formula that keeps the hate comments low but it's refreshing to see someone build a car the way I would - kinda sketchy but enjoyable and not chasing figures

[@monroefive-o40]

Mount the MSD box behind the dash or behind the glovebox. I put mine there. Worked out well.

[@ogfromutube9649]

I'll tell you my dad went to u of c back in 69 for psychology major, was invited as a member of mensia, and left both and toured Alaska. Him and a buddy in an old cj. They'd go town to town and when they ran out of money would settle temporarily and find some work. They made there way from Vermont up over to western Alaska and down through Montana, then down to Arizona and across the south back home. He settled back into Vermont and became a euro mechanic. VW, Mercedes, BMW, Volvo, Saab, even some Alfa Romeo and Corvette's. Now to make a relevant point lol. He always swore by pb blaster over all penetrating oil. This was from the mid 70s until 2020, when finally he actually changed his preference to seafoam deep creep... PB is still a tremendous product but seafoam really stepped it up on there penetrating oil!! Side note: He had a 1984 BMW 2002 with Weber carbs and a vw bus with a Judson supercharger... Now 38 years later I have an LS swapped Volvo 240 and a Volvo S70 T5 that runs low 12's...

[@twostrikeHR]

I can’t wait for Chelsea, Taylor and Jimmy to all drive the 86’s together

[@vwgtigreenbug]

Please connect the gascable in the middle of the carbs. You wil kill the link shaft like this.

[@beachwoodtire]

I believe you should be able to get it running without the msd box. With just the old-school coil. If you want even fewer wires. Great build.

[@honxsolo]

In all honesty I haven’t watched the channel for years now but saw this video pop up and now I’m drawn in. I’m more of a less is more person so seeing more people get into these types of builds excite me. Hope to see a lot more progress with it!

[@danielcgomez]

Great build idea sticking with the 4AGE ...and even going Side Draight Weber on the Carb choice. Where you are making a huge mistake(And I'm guessing it is the REAL reason why the carbs were put up for sale), is in their sizing for the 4AGE displacement. a 48DCOE Pair on a 1.6L engine is a BIG no no... We've used that setup on out & out full race circuit Ford Escorts with over-bored 2.0L(increased to 2.4L), which revs to 10,500+ rpm, developing 360Crank HP. I know what you are looking for with this build ...you are looking for firstly, the sound associated with 'ITB' induction. And, I'm sure a wide range of rpm tractability ...You really needed to get your hands on a pair of 40DCOE carbs ...You will not be able to tune this setup properly due to the large throttle plate size. I'm not even sure of what size Primary Chokes are fitted, so that's another thing to look into right there. What you will find when attempting to get these Carbs driving is; opening the throttle at lower revs the engine will 'gasp' and fall over due to lost intake flow velocity. the fuel will essentially fall to the floor of the intake track and not be ingested ...this problem is amplified by the fact that you have fitted longer duration/high lift camshafts. The only part of the rev range that this engine will be happiest(Not even the best that it could be either), is very high up in the rev range. I'm telling you right now that you will be frustrated with trying to get this to work. You're gonna want to get rid of them in no time. I have been following your channel for 6+ years ...and I have loads of respect for your experience, and your work ethic. I really want you to enjoy the potential for this build like all your other builds. Do it right. and you will enjoy it! All the best next year Taylor !

[@711motorsport6]

Really needs 38dcoe to work best on a pretty standard engine in my opinion. Maybe even 36's

[@zeroyon4562]

Agreed. I had Dellorto 40’s on my AE85, 48mm carbs are massive.

[@patrykkowalski6]

i like the little crusty look. it actually gives the vibe that i think would match this car style. not some shiny showcar everything new but a car thats about feel and driving

[@CTemple82]

When you redo the engine bay to make it all look pretty, you should make a aluminum pedestal stand in the corner near the stock air box location to mount the ignition box. It just looks real temporary sitting down on the frame rail. It will fill that empty area and also help hide that headlight harnesses, then you could run the wires underneath the core support instead of over the engine.

[@thewitt76]

I'll never forget the 71 super beetle w dual baby dell carbs me n pops built when I was 16.

[@Danger-Dave]

Cheering right along with you Taylor! Love this build... you can tell it's going to sound great with just the few rev's on SF! That 1st crank brings big smile's! You're motivating me to order a couple of kits for my twin Solex carb's that need rebuilding and a new brake master cylinder on my 63 Merz Benz 220Sb that's been sitting for years.

[@dagnallsingstheblues1783]

This was my dream build for so many years, right next to an 80 Toyota long bed with a built 4age

[@jasonmccoy567]

I'm so stoked on this one. I've been patiently waiting for ae86 content and now not only are you diving in to it but also Jimmy o. It's perfect. And I love that your both trying to keep the feel of the 86 like it's supposed to be. Even though Jimmy is doing the k swap it's still the same spirit just newer technology

[@GenStrife]

You could throw a tarp down and at least be able to agitate with a brush and spray clean with a bottle of rinse water. Still a mess, but easier to move the tarp outside and spray it with the hose and some degreaser, lol. Love the work, Taylor! Keep it up dude!

[@grantschmidt8187]

Not counting my chickens before they hatch - Taylor Ray new buzz quote

[@koolkar55]

OH YEA!!! Webbers for sure.

[@vkwhitehead]

Would recommend looking at a centre pull throttle on the carbs You will start to run into balancing issues eventually as it puts a lot of load having all the spring pressure on the very end linkages

[@aaronloyd2124]

Between you and jimmy oakes y’all are killing the 86 game. Looks super sweet. Keep it up.

[@teshire9075]

Gotta love carbs, So simple yet so genius. If you're up for extending the harness, forwards and along the upper radiator support and out the other side so it's mostly tucked out of the way and neat.

[@kristofermann2917]

the engine bay has got to be metallic gold

[@Javalitis04]

From Florida .. "we're gonna take it to the mountains" .. Kidding. Just sounded funny to be being in Colorado

[@PB-zb6vr]

Love those Weber, this is the way to build an 86 imo

[@hyper8778]

Only thing with webbers they are finicky, i put set on a cvh and we are constantly having issues Bikes carbs perform better and alot more reliable

[@champloogamingtv7447]

Millennium Jade on AE86 is just beautiful 🤩

[@brucepeters631]

Perfect car to set a lap time at the lz compound.

[@terry2583]

I'm from australia.i did this conversion in 1994 .I used a scorcher distributor made over here which doesn't need a msd box or any thing else .has mechanical vacuum advance and is electronic .my smallport happily revved to 8700rpm with a blacktop oil pump .and dual 40 mm delorto 's with 34 mm chokes and 100 jets . Made 165hp atw with stock cams .

[@kristofermann2917]

your emotion speaks volumes

[@pieterv6984]

of all your builds I am in LOVE with this one. When a new video of this series drops I can not not watch it immediately.

[@XplicitVoltz]

Refreshing seeing some old school tech on KZbin

[@JohnMichael0226]

Looks like you may need to swing by Adam’s place for some vapor honing. Can’t wait to see this thing done to the TR spec!

[@johntrataris8731]

Lol I would have hooked up a fuel can to it just to get it running lol

[@gemini3558]

This build brings back memories as my first car was Datsun 510/1600 fj20 with twin 40mm Webber’s !!! The induction noise was epic and so much fun to drive, it would cruise down the freeways at 100mph with ease !!! Miss that car so badly 😜👍🇦🇺

[@paulmiranda3281]

Yes makes me miss my P510 worked L18 with twin 40mm so much fun, the good ol days

[@jamiemccolgan2172]

Ireland is the place if you are needing parts. They have everything 🙃

[@JDGeorge240sx]

juust got home from work. Perfect timing !!!

[@rickhawkins8671]

Wow... enjoying this way more than I thought I would!!! Awsome little ripper mate!!!

[@mateodavid84]

Truly hope you go full send on this build. 4AGE build with all the fruit will be awesome.

[@dudu99cavalli]

favorite build on KZbin by far

[@geoffreyadams6236]

Yep, of all the cool projects you do this is the one that has gotten me the most excited when I saw a new video. I guess I'm an old car person. The second time you sprayed starting fluid in the carbs I'm sitting here on the couch saying "fill the bowls up with fuel!". Cheers bud.

[@sasha-taylor]

I really loved the raw giddy excitement in this one. I feel like you needed this after the Vette build, that was the ultimate dream project but these kinds of things seem like they ultimately put the most smiles on faces

[@ldnwholesale8552]

Why do those carbs have a welch plug in thge float vent, immediatly above the ram tube. And remember 3, max 4psi fuel pressure. Put the ign box under the dash. Engine bays are a bad place for electronics. The soft mounts on those carbs are done up too tight,, the carbs need to be able to flex individually. Those 48s are too big for a 1600, unsure of the mininum choke size but 36mm should be plenty, especially to street drive. injector block offs?? Use the injectors!!

[@talham709]

This is gonna be freaking sick!

[@donovanbold3859]

@Taylor Ray love the content and all the work you put in. Just about the webers, they designed to have the throttle cable in the middle (between the two carbs). When you run it with the calbe on one side it tends to bend the butterfly shafts and makes it impossible to synchronize then because one butterfly is open more than the other. Oh check out redline weber in the US if you need parts

[@Taylordrifts]

Yeah this setup isn’t ideal. I tried to buy Webbers from them originally but they big port manifold was backprder forever. I may try and buy a pair of Webbers and a linkage kit from them and just use my manifold.

[@donovanbold3859]

@@Taylordrifts that's cool all part of learning man. If you are going to get a new set of dcoe I would maybe consider a set of 40s, 45s are a bit large for a 1.6. There are chiesnes copies of weber but I don't know if they any good. There a few companies here in South Africa that still make parts for dcoes but carbs are not common anymore

[@supragoose_4770]

This build is 100% one of my favorites

[@smglz]

I am extremely pumped about this build

[@brano_1410]

cant wait to see you drive the 86! it looks so cool!

[@3wbasie]

The webers are sick!!!!!

[@Overtime_Wrenching]

I'm so surprised to see a guy build so many EFI cars, then go and convert a car from EFI to carbureted. Keep up the great work Taylor

[@JettaMK]

DCOE 45 would most likely be more suited to the engine size. Cant wait to see this thing done.

[@karnesmotorsports]

Those carbs are so cool. I almost ran them on my old MGB. Couldn’t find them then either, so I ended up running an outlaw 38/38. Easiest carb I’ve ever dealt with. You can put the white wire to ground with a toggle switch and make “anti theft.”

[@gavinoliver8074]

How on earth are you not at 1M subs yet? Loved the channel for years now Taylor.

[@ogfromutube9649]

I have used the cloth tape several times and it has lasted a few years really well so far..

[@bradleyscotney4399]

So you no longer use oven cleaner?

[@buhnanuh9257]

I love this. This car is sooo freaking cool. I love the side draft Webber’s

[@MiGujack3]

Can't wait to hear the tofu machine iconic sound.

[@mattketner7597]

As a Vintage Motorcycle Enthusiast, seeing those carbs in that engine bay is just too damn cool.

[@josuevelazquez5465]

Soy de Puerto Rico,Toyota coqui es un icono en PR todavía hay muchos 😎🏁

[@jameswieser2857]

Great vid as usual! When you clean the car to look good. Mount the ignition box on the fender on a bracket to match the fuse holder on the other side .

[@itsbingbongyo]

new t-shirt idea: "In this scenario, it's actually ideal!" dude, absolutely loving this content lately! you gotta come sling this thing at the compound, I'm only like 5 mins away and would love to see you out there!

[@devenyasay]

just a small tip! whenever i am under my car doing anything with liquid ii always put down costco puppy pads! they are freaking amazing and have saved me numerous times.

[@PeriodCorrect]

Such a cool car, gonna be a good build. The wheels and ride height are already perfect

[@matmichalke5734]

I personally really like the expandable wire loom

[@arcadiagreen150]

GAS GAS GAS I've got to step on the gas...if you know, firm handshakes

[@trevorsmith9251]

Weber’s have the best sound, especially with trumpets, I used to have 45’s on an 18rg twin cam years ago, they had a factory plenum that bolted to the carbies that looks like a new school fuel injecton plenum, which allows one uni filter or sock filter on the end of it keeping dirt out, and trumpets still fit inside it and it clips on with 4 or 5 clips

[@ravindersandhu75]

Quick tip…. To test for spark, I usually just zip tie an old school simple timing light trigger on…. Then put the test on the cylinder you wanna test. If the timing light turns on, you have spark!

[@SpaceRanger187]

the bike cards are way better then the webbers and more reliable, better rebuild them and bring a tuning gauge every where u go..it will leave u in high elevations..FULL FILTER ON THE CARBS

[@theangrymarmot8336]

@Taylordrifts - Don't mount that MSD coil horizontally if it is a fluid filled one - it will fail and cause problems. You will need to mount it vertically-ish. I have had so many cars come in with MSD coils mounted horizontal with random ignition issues - and MSD specifies you should mount them vertically!

[@Taylordrifts]

Good to know! Having a weird issue maybe that’s it. I have another different coil too.

[@theangrymarmot8336]

@@Taylordrifts Apparently what happens to them is when they are horizontal, the fluid doesn't cover all the internals completely, so the windings and stuff in there go dry, overheat, and fail. It takes a little bit of time though, so if that is a new coil I doubt it is your issue - but if it is an older coil that has been mounted horizontally - then it can cause problems!

[@Taylordrifts]

@@theangrymarmot8336 it is an older one and has been mounted that way so maybe that’s it. It’s a weird issue I’m having.

[@ndubgolfer]

love getting notified by KZbin to find Taylor Ray dropped a AE86 video. 🤙🏼

[@paulforrester4057]

That setup is so much better

[@beratsbuilds]

I love this build! I can feel your love and excitement for the Hachiroku

[@teemoL]

I believe you and @garage4age would be good friends. Thanks always for the wonderful content sir.

[@DrM03N3R]

Dang this build is coming along quick! The final result is going to be great too, what a vision

[@poboy8490]

So glad you found the setup that your heart was set on. It makes all the difference in the world. And I'm glad you aren't getting carried away with polishing and tucking and replacing all the hardware with shiney new stuff. I can't speak for anyone else, but I appreciate a dirty (or at least dull) ae86 🤷 although, I can also appreciate a color-matched engine bay 😅

[@Ducaducs100]

Love the capt ron reference

[@kadce992]

This is probably my favorite build so far!! just because I'm building something pretty similar. Absolutely love ur plans and progress.

[@iansharpe8420]

Love that you're building the car that YOU want, excited for this build

[@Static.Jovanny]

Happy to see you and jimmy working on 86s

[@CMgraffix]

looking forward to hearing it, Happy new year