These Guns are USELESS!

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[@TBAG]

remember the *''something something something... in different Battlefield games''* series? Let me know if you want me to do more👍😁

[@pjplayz5448]

Yes

[@thearmoredman8319]

where is battlefield hardline We want battlefield hardline

[@dimitrissymeon1660]

Of course !!!!! 😃😃😃😃😃 And historically accurate loadouts again !!!!!! PLEASE !!!!!!

[@jetstreamsam9726]

Do most annoying characters in different battlefield games includes campaign and for 2042 the multiplayer specialists counts too

[@mohammedhussain4829]

Bro I enjoy your content so much :)

[@Cody-ps3wy]

Finally the in different battlefield games Series is back I hope this isn’t just a one time thing because there so much potential to this series

[@atharvtyagi3435]

True.

[@irtvlcanicline1904]

Honestly, I missed this series

[@beachparty2613]

So much potential? There are only like 8 guns in BF2042 🤷‍♂️

[@brianharrington7663]

@@beachparty2613 thanks for sharing your input!

[@Cody-ps3wy]

@@beachparty2613 I meant that he would avoid it but I didn’t know he would just drop hardline like that

[@christmasgamer4038]

Tbag: *lists the groza as useless* Also tbag: *shows the groza shredding*

[@dorsets9295]

its honestly only useless when you dont have any sights unlockrd

[@allgunsblazed9106]

@@dorsets9295 all to do with you're aim, most guns are great.

[@Assassino275]

@@dorsets9295 found the guy who can't aim

[@dorsets9295]

@@Assassino275 did you not see the sights for it?

[@guts-141]

It feels like a Close Quarter weapon when using regular sight

[@VorpalDerringer]

2:41 The Pieper revolver carbine is a forgotten weapon for a reason--it may be light and handy, but the cartridge it fires is 8mm Pieper and it uses the same gas system as the 1895 Nagant revolvers. One source says the cartridge was loaded by Remington at 106 grains at 1100 FPS, so not too awful for a pistol rounds, but not too great in a carbine, especially not compared to the kinds of Winchester rifles that would have been common in the Mexican rural areas where the only users--Mexican Rural Police--would have operated. Much less any of the machine guns and proto-assault rifles floating around in Battlefield's alternate WW1.

[@djd2304]

12 degree burns

[@VorpalDerringer]

@@djd2304 Uses Nagant's gas seal system, no burns.

[@djd2304]

@@VorpalDerringer it was a gas seal?!

[@VorpalDerringer]

@@djd2304 Yes! Made by the same company that made the Nagant revolver's design.

[@djd2304]

@@VorpalDerringer I think I heard that in simpel history

[@Kray21728SP]

Well, the Groza is different. Base on the AK variant but in the bullpup way. Two versions in BF4, the Groza-1 had a foregrip and only used 7.62x39mm M43, while the Groza-4 with the suppressor is in 9x39mm Subsonic.

[@skyninjaslayer337]

And both are good smh

[@PBI45]

Technically you can kill an AEK971 user if you shoot for the chest quickly - faster than the AEK I mean

[@s0vi3t_m0m4]

man, i love russia too, he said even that he uses the groza least

[@ezpz4646]

Me after all these years just realizing the gross is literally an AK

[@warlockiii1846]

@Kray on point

[@Turntablist11]

The Madsen is actually king in mid range! Do use it more! Little recoil lets you laser beam people, 40 bullets lets you take out an enemy even if you only spot a foot at medium-long distance, and it lets you take out 2-3 guys with good visibility. Do use the 3x scope though, it hides the huge mag from your field of vision. And oh, you can kill anything with five bullets maximum at long distance, all other LMGs take six bullets to do the trick. It is my go to LMG.

[@piemaniac9410]

yeah, I don't play BF much but I saw the recoil on that gun even with the scope and instantly thought it would be great for long sightlines. It's not meant to get right up close and shred people, it's meant to lock down an open area from a vantage point.

[@amuplay2302]

The only reason I’ve used it is because it’s a Norwegian/Danish machine gun and I love nationality

[@dakarmachameleon1787]

Despite what you say they still did this gun so dirty this could have really been used as a light machine gun considering it’s ammo capacity and actual weight since it weighed about the same as a BAR and the caliber being roughly the same size (the Madsen used 8x58mmr Danish Krag and the Bar used 7.62x63)

[@Ashar121]

The fact that you got out gunned by an SMG is due to how the gunplay works in BF5. There is no ranged superiority since every gun is accurate

[@the47thsoldier67]

Then again at least its not the same trash bullet deviation in bf1

[@jblazerndrowzy]

Except that SMGs still do less damage over range and have dogshit muzzle velocity speeds

[@Ashar121]

@@jblazerndrowzy bullet velocity doesnt matter when target is stationary. At that point it's just raw DPS. They tried to have ranged damage drop off but people hated it. So this is what they were left with it

[@Ashar121]

@@the47thsoldier67 that "trash bullet deviation" is one of the biggest reasons why BF1 is such a well balanced game. I suggest watching Enders deep dive into the differences between the gunplay of BF1 and BFV and why BF1 is superior.

[@jblazerndrowzy]

@@Ashar121 What do you mean by “they tried to have ranged damage drop off”? Every gun has ranged damage drop off, with SMGs starting off at ~25 damage dropping to 12 damage. The Madsen meanwhile drops to 18 damage which, in BFV at least, is quite hard hitting compared to pretty much every other automatic weapon that isn’t the Chauchat or the Breda. SMGs have horrible damage beyond ~20 meters and typically get outgunned beyond that point. How TBAG didn’t rip apart that Medic using the ZK, an SMG that has horrible damage output without light bolt, is a wonder. EDIT: What I can say is that there’s definitely ranged superiority in BFV, it’s just not as immediately noticeable as previous BFs. If it were raw DPS, the Madsen would’ve won instead of it being a draw. TBAG clearly missed several shots while the Medic hit just about every single one, so the fact that it still ended in a draw should say something.

[@theproblemstarters]

Glad to see these types of videos back, So when’s every door in battlefield V ranked worst to best?

[@dark_disciple]

Now that is something we need

[@sharky9075]

Nah doors in BFV are boring and have less variety than in BF1

[@wisemonke194]

@@sharky9075 how about end of round themes?

[@lunchtime_mmmmmmm]

I also think that we need this video

[@sharky9075]

@@lunchtime_mmmmmmm Hmm, who could have thought

[@zyzor]

The madsen in bfv is actually a fun one to use. It has a very manageable recoil and fire rate, as well as fast reload.

[@wolfgangkolber381]

Ja, it's one of my main guns, if only because I have terrible recoil control. I actually win almost all encounters with it if I spot the enemy before he spots me. Plus, the 40 round mag lets you laserbeam and can potentially take out multiple enemies.

[@jblazerndrowzy]

And it does more damage at longer ranges than any other mg(with the exception of the Chauchat)

[@jessestevens_aka_jesus]

It was great when the TTK got changed a while back because it doesn't have a damage drop-off at range. I believe it's five bullets at any range.

[@amaanazam9387]

When I started playing bfv recently I started using weapons that I never used before, one of them being the madsen mg, at first I found it weird but after a few minutes I was outgunning everyone, including zk's and mp40's, it is a very fun gun to use really

[@xnotasweatx]

@@jessestevens_aka_jesus that’s decent actually

[@storm0125]

1:58 That’s the case because of sub-sonic ammo. Sub-sonic ammunition is where the bullet goes below the speed of sound. With sub-sonic ammo, you can use suppressors perfectly. Without that ammo, suppressors wouldn’t work except at long distances.

[@TheMock5000]

*goes from bf1 Madsen to bfv Madsen* "look at how they massacred my boy."

[@the_ur3an_myth]

Been thinking about this a lot. I hate the fact that there was 1 VA with the same voice lines (minus a few class specific lines) regardless of which class you chose. The Bad Company series of games made things feel different since each class had a different VA with different lines for the same action.

[@n8zog584]

There is more than one VA in pretty much every class.

[@the_ur3an_myth]

@@n8zog584 for the teammates yes. Tons of different VA but not for the classes you play as. Not sure about BF3 as I haven't played MP but its pretty evident in BF4, 1 and V

[@felpzhue]

I mean, so did BFH

[@SarajevoShotz]

who the fuck cares its a shooter not a visual novel lmao

[@abdihakimhussein4957]

You can hear neebs shouting in the background at 1:37😂

[@Shadocaster13]

The Madsen is an interesting gun, it has lower damage than most of the other lmgs but it has better damage falloff and even without the bipod it is one of the most controllable at long range do to low and consistent recoil patterns. You can only really be competitive with it at medium to long range.

[@imrefuty7592]

Actually it has no damage falloff. Its a 5 hit kill at every imaginable range pretty much.

[@jblazerndrowzy]

@@imrefuty7592 No, it drops to a 6 shot kill, but the best part is that it doesn’t drop to a 7 shot kill like most other MGs

[@lockejohn18]

"This gun is so inconsistent!" Try hitting your shots lol.

[@I_AM_VERRUCKT]

Those revolver rifles were actually one of the most dangerous to use bc they were prone to chain fire and blow your hand off 💀

[@imrefuty7592]

Youre only half right. Only black powder revolver carbines were prone to this which had to reloaded by hand. The carbine in BF1 uses a cartridge which is pretty safe.

[@wetstinkysocks2950]

@@imrefuty7592 that carbine also makes for a good trolling gun too lol

[@I_AM_VERRUCKT]

@@imrefuty7592 ah I forgot Ty

[@harveyknguyen]

@@I_AM_VERRUCKT that being said gas can also escape from the chamber gap (not in the case of the Pieper though, it uses the same gas seal system as the Nagant revolver), which can get pretty annoying and you'll probably burn yourself after a while

[@poobla7638]

Most the guns you used are actually viable in their games, pieper being the only ass one here. Both groza are used for different situations and is really good in general. Madsen is a king at medium range for small groups. Due to the Vcar attatchments its fairly good for both QCB and long range engagements but not medium, also the best semi-auto of the current 3.

[@konservendose3239]

Well, i use the pieper and i like it. Its not that bad

[@dominicesquivel3901]

I actually like the piper since it has such low recoil.

[@lolk4530]

The funniest part about the gun in bf2042 is that irl its .22 Magnum which makes it strange that any military would use it in combat due to its lack of armor penetration and its pickyness with ammo.

[@brianharrington7663]

It’s the games “funny gun” it’s kind of just a staple of the franchise at this point

[@encross8058]

I don't know many other guns that aren't picky with their ammo besides that one revolver meant to take like four different calibers

[@lolk4530]

@@encross8058 many rimfire self loading guns will only shoot 1 or 2 brands of the type of ammo they're supposed to take.

[@encross8058]

@@lolk4530 ah alright I didn't know that thanks

[@jonathanstone4308]

I actually managed to take a plane out with the pieper once in BF1, bailed from my plane as it was nearly dead and fired off some shots into the enemy plane chasing me to finish it off.

[@encross8058]

Yeah it does like two to three damage to planes which doesn't sound like a lot but really adds up so it's fun to harass them with it

[@aceofcheems7685]

The good thing about the Madsen is that has a consistent damage model At all distances it's going to be a 5 shot kill.

[@the_desert_hobo6965]

If you think about it, no gun is entirely useless, the term useless is based on personal preference this term can be used if one’s playstyle does not fit the characteristics of a certain weapon

[@theswagman1263]

who asked

[@jared.p240]

@@theswagman1263 I did

[@jblazerndrowzy]

@@theswagman1263 I did

[@Ultroumbonee]

The Groza is actually a really strong gun. If has SMG hipfire and ads time. It's one of only just a few guns that still has a 4 btk and carbine damage at a distance.

[@bbbank6031]

You are the only gaming youtuber that i still watch at 17 years old. I just wanna thank you for all the times you made my day better whenever i was bored. You are one of the last existing gaming youtubers in 2022 that are still really fun to watch

[@judsongaiden9878]

Do you...like...S.T.A.L.K.E.R., Borderlands, or Half-Life?

[@jared.p240]

Dude same here, I'm turning 17 in 5 months time and I still watch this guy. I've outgrown most gaming youtubers that I watched but TBag is the only gaming youtuber I'd still come back and watch. His content is just so entertaining

[@xLeaDFusioNx]

Awww loook at you young lads battlefield Vietnam was where it was at 🤘🏻

[@allgunsblazed9106]

@@jared.p240 almost 17? Dude you're ancient

[@jared.p240]

@@allgunsblazed9106 I feel ancient🤣

[@afrikanergamerboi4062]

Waited so long for this return

[@Shadowghost2003]

"Excuse my clumsiness" that's y we're all here tbag😂😂😂

[@CatNap_is_Tired]

TBAG: "mmgs are trash because all you do is camp with the bipod" Also TBAG: 7:15 camps with a bipod

[@razak51fr]

The return of the best series!

[@themackie2763]

Here’s a video idea: Using all BOLT-ACTIONS RIFLES in [Battlefield game]

[@nap0038]

Man I remember this series when I was in love with BFV. TBAG’s still the man, if a little angrier lol

[@WW1Headquarters]

Love this series. Keep it up!

[@koolaidfox2886]

Love you’re videos TBag! Keep up the awesome content! 💜

[@ArchJ_]

YES THE KING HAS RETURNED TO THE KING SERIES!

[@jackal_tv]

Groza-4 has lesser bullet velocity not because of suppressor but because of its caliber. Its actually sub-sonic 9x39.

[@FemboyIHOP]

you have NO IDEA how excited and happy i got when i saw you posted this video, keep up the epic work buddy :)

[@thesandvitchman9303]

I like the piper it's got a gunslinger vibe to it

[@encross8058]

Yeah

[@Cowmilk96]

I’d love to see the commander position to come back to the bf games. So fun to see an overhead of the map and all the fighting. That was sweet

[@lusom22yt28]

I just wanted to say thank you for your great content 💪🏻 4 Battlefield Gameplays in 1 video is a big joy for me ☝🏼😄 Even with 2042

[@nocturne_7774]

TBAG I think my favorite thing about these videos is how you seem dominate with some these guns in gameplay and still follow up with “So yeah this gun is just horrible.” Like you could travel to Olympus with a Kolibri, kill every god with it and say “See this gun is so bad. Point made.”

[@Aluja77]

Love this types of videos man hope we get more. Maybe Playing with the most firerate Guns in different Battlefield games?

[@Aluja77]

And ofc the lowest

[@zombie7232]

Love that you added the noob from BF friends at 1:38-1:40

[@aaronazevedo4724]

Dude I’ve actually used the groza quite proficiently. In many situations ranging from close to mid-farish range. Nothing as good as the SG553 but still decent

[@taifkl7580]

Me having only Bf 1 and BF 5, well nice play 4:30 with that sentry kit, mostly i will get killed in 00,5 seconds after i put it on, because of muromets, or some rambo flankers that are around to just backstab you, but you made nice killstreak respect that , 7:40 me who read about Zk 383 - that it was smg called Machine gun pistol, because it could play a role of actual light machine gun, very precise, 30 rounds in magazine and bipod, while still shooting pistol bullets, and i think that it had good balistics tests even on 200 meters soo on smg great, while expensive in real life, here it seems to overpowered over your Madsen(which is old design of lmg during WW2) :D But hey great plays have some hope for these games again to play them, you always makes me smile over your video, Stay awesome in continuing making more videos men.

[@leoli2450]

I have one thing to say about madison though, it has one of the best damage drop value in machine gun class. Plus the relatively controllable recoil and HV bullet at level 4making it a really good camp weapon. Also i know the menu stats in 2042 is broken RN but VCHR have almost identical stat to mp28... Which is a secondary...

[@bread8220]

yesss finally love your vids bro

[@GaryHamad]

HV-Car is based on a Kel-Tec Pistol Caliber Carbine meant for Civilian Market, Currently Chambered in .22 Long Rifle (Pistol Cartridge), which is By Military standards is WEAK, but I guess in Bf2042 they rechambered it to FN 5.7×28mm

[@andrijasaviccsavic1124]

Not weak, useless, today every modern soldiers have protection good enough to stop 22. without problem.

[@GaryHamad]

@@andrijasaviccsavic1124 Protection? bro .22 LR Doesn't Kill Anything Larger than a Cat

[@andrijasaviccsavic1124]

@@GaryHamad it can still lead to serious injury and bleeding, so it can still be very dangeorus.

[@GaryHamad]

@@andrijasaviccsavic1124 still "Not a Toy" on the Label, except Kolibri, that's a Toy

[@andrijasaviccsavic1124]

@@GaryHamad thats what i said, it can be dangeorus without body protection, but with protection (which is standard for today battlefield) its useless.

[@misfit7024]

I miss the commander thing. I use to play battlefield 2. It's like Squad but older. The commander can controls anything from Artillery barrage to UAVs and supply drops. Or I think it's the first Squad game. You can also apply for team leader. Team leader's role is to spot enemies and direct fire on them.

[@harveyknguyen]

are you talking about Project Reality?

[@nicolapoco1561]

1:22 the Top Gun Advertisement with Tom Cruise showed up.. what a perfect timing 😂😂

[@Mestar1508]

Ive Waited this so long!

[@theplaguedoctor6566]

TBag talking about the Pieper: Everything is bad about this gun Me a masochist and got 2 service stars with it.

[@encross8058]

same here lmao

[@theplaguedoctor6566]

@@encross8058 Yeah, i bet it sucked for you too huh.

[@adrianpro143]

3:06 nice transition on the reload

[@thatone_dude235]

I love how Tbag rages even while recording, it's more realistic than being chill after dying unfairly 5 times

[@user-ik4pw2lo7j]

I did not expect this type of video

[@mieciotherock5131]

Whaaaat, i didint expect this :D

[@nicolaschannel8787]

This remind me of so many memories

[@henrybb]

Yayy this series is back please do more

[@temp3608]

tbag : *kamikazes tank* youtube : here have a mac n cheese ad

[@valiumeff8607]

the pieper is actually cool when you begin to use it on the hardcore server, very satisfying

[@Randal1993Randal]

Some guns requires special play style, i.e. RSC SMG or Pieper M1893 (BF1). Like all weapons, each one does have its own Pros/Cons which comparing to other weapons might change even more (especially when you compare weapons from different classes/types). That's something that not everyone really think about it when they pick up guns. For example, I like to use the Parabellum MG14/17 (BF1) because of the high rate of fire (which can suck with accuracy (cons) but can stop the entire squad or two from pushing at you (pros) at close-mid ranges). TBH I don't see too often people using it (people more likely use either MG15 nA or broken M1917 MG because of better recoil control/accuracy and med-long range effiency). Basically when one weapon is outstanding far behind, the other shines there. It's still most likely all about the skills, not being as cheap as you can be with the most well balanced weapons.

[@BillyIsBalding]

For the next video do, “Playing with my most useless friends in different battlefield games” a way to joke with and roast them

[@elivalstar2423]

Hi keep upp the great work, groeten uit Den Haag!!!!🇳🇱💪🏻

[@scottyi9299]

1:52 "I really dislike suppressors in this game, because it turns bullet velocity into 5 centimeters per year"🤣

[@depressormk1]

0:30 you literally shot everywhere he wasnt😂

[@alexanderpadilla2832]

dang I have not played Modern Warfare, BF1 or BF5 in a while. Been busy and I tv set up is not the same as my apartment (at parent's place and got to move i graduated from college :) ) also the controller is not as good because of Modern warfare lol. Good video man keep it up!

[@Nikolay_Slavov]

About the Groza - you have bullpop configuration AK and the silenced version is like VAL but also again in bullpop configuration.

[@MolissaLiveEssence]

FINELLY !!! BF series come back🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@RusnakAutoDesign]

Oh man, that Madison gameplay just made me remember why I never want to touch that game after the last ttk patch.

[@RobHouse.69]

It’s not a true TBAG video without hearing neebs say “BATTLEFIEEEELL- * boom *”

[@frankconrad8561]

The groza was actually the gun I have the most hours with. *It’s an underrated, overlooked gun in BF4 and it slaps cheeks all day boy.* 👌

[@xnotasweatx]

Also one of the first guns a player unlocks

[@phantombonnie9298]

Gets a triple kill. "I almost got zero kills!"

[@RogueGMR]

[gets a kill] "I can't even get a kill" [gets a triple kill]

[@stephendippenaar9986]

Battlefield stil my fav military shooter and Bf3 and Bf4 looked so good I had so much fun playing these and it took awhile to level up making you play it more for longer and Physics was pretty good to

[@Arno_fps.]

3:40 Guy: *misses half of his shots* "WhY diD tHaT tAkE sO LoNg?"

[@olekcholewa8171]

6:29 Tbag, every light machine gun in Battlefield 5 has a bipod

[@louiszillgen7870]

0:33 I'm dead 😂

[@adigitallegend6269]

Glad to see an entire video that was made just because the vcar has no point. (Bad buff concept: always accurate within 125 meters and full auto (240 per minute))

[@simon6154]

I like Madsen. You have to play it mid range. Close you lose everything if enemy is same skill.

[@masonirwin1057]

I love watching him try the weapons he doesn’t use just to realize they aren’t bad. He’s running the peiper and calling it trash just to not do bad with it because it isn’t actually a bad gun.

[@purpleslug9489]

Bro that groza-1 takes me back I remember back in the day dropping 104 kills with 3 deaths I still have the picture of that to this day it was on tdm max tickets on the map zavod 311 bro I miss bf4 so much

[@doodlesyoru2108]

1:18 Lost the opportunity to scream "BANZAIIIIIII" at the top of your lungs.

[@henryrodgers7386]

I find it interesting you chose the revolving rifle in BF1... In Far Cry 6, the same model is a vicious monster that will eat anything smaller than a cargo truck.

[@MrAlaaobaji]

Those bruh moments made me laugh my ass off

[@gibbonchio]

The Madsen was insane, I loved it!

[@triplej2935]

I like the commander and I hope we get this feature in the future but in my opinion the commander should have more influence on the game

[@teutonum]

1:36 WWIII be like: “But this one have a permanently fixed suppre-“ **dude screaming by suffer of war and freaking dies in front of him** “Oh well, he’s dead! ANYWAYS....”🤣

[@dominictorreto1911]

Finally ..... original content returns

[@theAverageJoe25]

I love how he calls them the most useless guns as he slaughters people with them

[@baronfriday989]

I thought the VCAR was one of the weirdest weapons to be in the game. Its modeled on the Keltec CMR-30 which fires .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire (a spicy .22LR)

[@tangy3366]

The sadness i feel when i watch tbags videos bc i go on to these games and cant find a game for hrs.

[@TC-xt8ts]

loved the commander feature!

[@ThelVadam7777]

The madsen is awesome ngl. I used that thing so much

[@ArcticBaron59]

TBag: plays bf1 Also TBag: Calls it bfv in chapters

[@skies3008]

yes i want the commander mechanic back it was really cool to be honest

[@normanmccollum6082]

The Madsen LMG is actually a rather legendary design. It's a very early LMG design but it also has seen A LOT of service to my understanding. There's even footage of a Brazillian Police Officer within the past 10 years or so using one on-the-move. A MADSEN. Which is from like 1905 or something crazy like that. No, I just checked, it was adopted in 1902. Must have been designed right around 1900. Epic.

[@ewok_jedi9188]

Tbag. I just got BF1. just a question, what are battlestars? and how do you get them?

[@prussi4n218]

TBAG Vid Idea, You Should Play BF5 or BF1 Use Accurate Guns for the Class Turn Of hud to make vid as Immersive as possible

[@levitatingkoala]

this is awesome!

[@tankacebo9128]

funny tidbit about that Madsen gun... "Who would ever use this thing..." Brazil. matter of fact, Brazil STILL USES THEM TODAY. it's the standard armament of their Military Police.

[@fascistlobster]

It's pretty wild seeing videos of them carrying a 110 year old machine gun in the favelas.

[@v12ts.gaming]

Fun fact: the VCAR irl, the Kel-Tec CMR-30 is as useless as it is in the game since it fires .22 WMR rounds, in which they are not recommended for combat use.

[@fascistlobster]

Yeah, it's really weird that they made what is essentially an underpowered MP7 into a DMR.

[@hahabrrrrr4465]

Yo tbag, here is a random fact: the mars pistol is actually a bad gun irl. Due to how much kick it has firing it once feels like breaking your hand and those who ever fired it quoted "never wanted to fire it again"

[@not_corin5376]

i once used the madsen gun as my main lmg cuz it just boosted me up for some reason