TBC Rogue P3 PvP BIS Gear & FAQ (Gemming/Stealth Items/Alternative Gear)

[@magnusdauv132]

Nigh-Invulnerability Belt is no longer allowed in arena in season 3.

[@deathjester81]

Clean and structured no bullshit guide as usual. good job man, appreciate the high standard you set for this type of vids.

[@Justwoo]

how do step sap mage without getting nova??

[@Chris-es9cw]

kekw

[@W1shkaz]

sprint then shadowstep sap, run correct direction xD

[@HiTxMaN93]

Cloak while stealthed i guess and then sap. Its like ur just trading cloak for his trinket

[@bluenotesessions1]

You sap their trinket.

[@michaelbarnes5461]

@@HiTxMaN93 don’t talk when you’re clueless please

[@ClassicRoguecraft]

(edit - guide made before the engy belt nerf was announced ofc - remove invul belt now that it's nerfed) Questions? Ask me in the TBC GUIDES DISCORD ►► discord.gg/T9XQJw7gJj

[@NoName-j8j3o]

Everything is nice. I highly recommend Silent-Strider Kneeboots (boots) from Helfire Citadel Heroic for Arena. Its big upgrade from The Master treads.

[@mikeevans4588]

Snomie. Bar none the best guides. Easy to sit through, good information and realistic info!! Thanks man!

[@neilcowan442]

Insidious Bands + Vindicator neck > Telonicus + Dragonhide bracers full stop, even if you're above 7% hit it's better. You can also gem resil in 2 yellow slots (shoulders are a good option) and run Insidious+Telonicus. Shadowmoon cloak is about even with KT cloak at sub 7% hit, but above 7% KT cloak is clear winner. For realistic BIS, T6 legs/helm/goggles is ideal for most people imo. Nice list :)

[@ClassicRoguecraft]

Yep - there's a lot of alternate combos you can play around with depending on comp and pref. I could see double dps going both insidious and telonicus at same time too if they were going more offensive burst.

[@philippecote8571]

If you can't get cursed vis, 4set + T6 shoulders are a fantastic alternative. Insane pvp stats.

[@rawgamertv599]

hey mate where do we get the MIR enemy C/d WA? cheers good video

[@ClassicRoguecraft]

same old - on the patreon with the rest of the perks

[@HiTxMaN93]

Hey Sno great video man! One other thing to consider when choosing a dps trinket is that the Nightseye Trinket can be used while stealth which allows you to pre pop vs the Bloodlust Brooch takes you out of stealth when used.

[@ClassicRoguecraft]

true, although I'd be very careful popping that in stealth because the panther pet that appears is visible to enemies

[@isaarunarom7830]

Its the way to go, the 1 gdc between poping it and your opener should be totally fine, not like you pop it 10 seconds before an opener

[@jeffwalker5847]

do you have a wotlk version for mirs omnibar?

[@JasonRSapien]

What do you think about running the Meta 12 AGI / 3% crit dmg with Minor speed / 6 AGI to boots?

[@juanvega2301]

sup man nice vid. wondering if you have a Phase 5 gear list and gems,enchant etc given on tuesday all s4 brutal gear can be bought with just honor points so will be nice for people that haven't geared up to enter wotlk with some nice stuff. thanks!

[@ivandreztv597]

Hey sno! Couple of questions Is Talon of Azshara better then Merci blade for pvp? If i have the vindicator belt should i buy shadow belt? And what about the mega socket still using the minor speed one instead of the crit one

[@ClassicRoguecraft]

Yeah talon beats s2 mh for pvp. If you have vindicator belt I wouldn't worry about shadow honestly. For meta socket most people are still doing minor speed so they can use surefoot on boots, but crit + cats is fine also if you prefer not to run surefoot.

[@ivandreztv597]

@@ClassicRoguecraft thanks !

[@KeoN710]

Hey quick question, is Bloodlust Brooch better than the brewfest trinket at all? I don't have the stats in front of me, but i thought they were the same item.

[@OrreryBandCleveland]

The same.

[@zachsrealestate1]

did u mentioned pvp rings ? and is the new pvp trinket worth it

[@kidcloud3134]

so if i want download your wearkaura for cooldown, i just pateron u for a month and get that wa right? i'm intend to buy it. 5$ one is able to reach that wa section in your pateron?

[@ClassicRoguecraft]

Yep, patreons get my weakauras and any new things I add within that month (keep in mind patreon bills each month being 1st till the 31st though - so when you join you get access to all the previous months stuff too but they bill again on the 1st of every month, so if you're not interested in future additions don't forget to cancel the resub before the 1st).

[@cdawws]

Looking to get into a more regular pvp schedule next phase, I've got glaive prio as well so if we get some good rng I'm excited to tear it up soon. Looking forward to your PvE guide, always great quality content here :D

[@wowpvp4202]

just bought the sword offhand and put mongoose on it...thinking i shouldve bought dagger sword is 1.5 daggger 1.4 can you expplain y dagger is bettter? i know its cheaper shiv but how many off hands do i need. most of mine r 1.5...i dont have any 1.4 any suggestions. how important is the dmg of the offhand shiv wep if its not my main / speed

[@ClassicRoguecraft]

you need 2 offhands at least so that's fine, you can just grab dagger next

[@isaarunarom7830]

I try to shiv with the 1.3 badge dagger, it cost only 33 instead of 34 so it allows 3 shives without an energy ticks, where as my normal 1.4 speed offhand cost 34 energy and can only be casts twice before needing to wait on an energy tic. (Granted if using pvp gear this 1 energy won't matter since you should have 110 energy) but that's the best way I think of off hand speeds. Go ahead and tell me I'm wrong, but this was the most clear way for me to think of why speed matters for shiv

[@dailyQuotesAboutLifeEU]

Hey Sno - great movie:) Was wondering - why Dragonhide over Regular leather bracers?

[@ClassicRoguecraft]

dragonhide has better overall stats (although minor difference really)

[@sindredn]

The stealth items not a thing anymore in S3?

[@slickrick2012]

Great vid sno. When is epic medallion PvP trink coming out?

[@ClassicRoguecraft]

don't think that's till p4 from the looks of it - ptr only has battlemaster ones on it

[@rahbeat9785]

question about the WA cd thing is there a way to have an icon displayed even if it's not on cd?

[@ClassicRoguecraft]

yeah it's possible to change it like that - but it would be WAAAY too many icons on your screen honestly. This tracks a ton of CDs and most people won't have room to passively have CD monitoring that many things

[@rahbeat9785]

@@ClassicRoguecraft true but i only want it to show on certain things like ShS / kidney/ feral charge etc

[@ClassicRoguecraft]

@@rahbeat9785 yeah then you could definitely do that, you'd have to delete all the other things though and change the trigger settings to be always shown

[@moosti89]

Thanks for all the great content Sno! What do you think about belt of 100 deaths? I know we don't benefit from the expertise as much but it still has 2 gem slots, a nice gem slot bonus, and you can gain a ton of agility because of that. Also, have youn seen any analysis of the band of eternal champion and it's procc? How good/bad is it really now that it's out?

[@ClassicRoguecraft]

it's still really good overall even though the expertise isn't super valued - rest of stats are good. No one has official proc data on the band yet, but I'd expect it to be at what people guessed with 1 ppm - so it'll be up there with shade ring for best pvp rings just based on raw stats.

[@Liqvidator]

Is there any other options for non high rank arena players (beginners) ? If u would get a1 PvP gear for honor (when season 3 starts), what is the best options for weapons (GDKP/a1)? Is there any weapons in Hjal/BT better then Rod of the Sun King or Talon of Azshara? I have Spiteblade, and i dont think a1 weapon better then my sword. But PvP bis list offer me to swap in a1 fist weapon.

[@ClassicRoguecraft]

Yeah it'd be basically whatever s1 pvp gear you can stomach grinding yourself mostly. P3 weapons are fine but they're around same level as talon for the MH. You could look at a p3 weapon if you can get to 1850 (or have someone help carry) but outside of that you'd be waiting for a p2 talon/rod or p3 mh to drop.

[@Liqvidator]

@@ClassicRoguecraft Okay, thx.

[@conjj17]

what about the JC trinket? is it no longer viable? Does this mean I shouldn't waste gold on JC?

[@HiTxMaN93]

Nightseye Trinket is still bis in my opinion. It can be used while stealth which allows you to pre pop it vs the bloodlust brooch takes you out of stealth when used.

[@benfrie8780]

I‘d go for t6 shoulder for armorpen and 4/5 s3

[@Kryxx07]

I thought the norm was to meta gem minor speed since boots have surefooted?

[@Nebuljr]

Where is episode 34 of the TBC podcast! QQ

[@ClassicRoguecraft]

early access edit is live on pattern already with timestamps, public version should be in a couple days on channel as usual

[@davidwells5888]

interesting people in actual tbc went for 4p t6 for the bonus hemo damage

[@ryanjoslin]

they only did that once sunwell came around (4pc 4pc, typically shoulders + belt/boot/bracer for tier) Source: 2350+ top 10 bloodlust region rogue

[@remegarcia6242]

chamnimal?

[@main7256]

pve phase 3 when ? :( Amazing video tho gj :D

[@ClassicRoguecraft]

should be this coming weekend assuming birthday stuff doesn't get in the way

[@rahbeat9785]

panther trinket is always better than brooch. for every comp