New Earth Spacedock - First Look

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[@Lokiawa]

To me, STO's exterior depiction of PIC's ESD seems way smaller than it should, even compared to the 'Search for Spock'/TNG Earth Space Dock.

[@stankyyboi]

it's because STO's version of the old ESD was oversized to fit bigger ships(no the starbase in TNG with the D wasn't ESD it was a much bigger Starbase 74) so despite this new one being the proper size it doesn't feel as big as it did in the show but they properly scaled it to match the scenes with the Titan and Enterprise F leaving through the doors

[@winsarun7916]

I don’t hate new model. It look cool but I honestly love and prefers old design more. There just something awe inspiring with the spacedock from TOS movie.

[@outlawedTV88]

why wud u hate it? jeez i don't like it but far from hate such a strong word for somet like this

[@TT09B5]

@@outlawedTV88 Not really, hate is an overused word anyways. I don't like this new model, to many spikey antenna everywhere , looks more like it belongs in Star Wars.

[@winsarun7916]

​@@outlawedTV88 I did start out statement by saying I don't hate this. I'm okay with it but I honestly preferred old design. over this like I said it's very tall and look bigger than new one. I think it's look more sleek and intimidating than new one.

[@vichraev.5386]

I'm with you...definitely like the current one more. The biggest news here for me is that they are still putting effort into development.

[@outlawedTV88]

@@winsarun7916 Looks more for Star Wars universe than Trek. and I 'hate' Star Wars :D

[@brentbartley6838]

Here's hoping they move the original ESD to a nearby system and make a permanent fleet museum like in Picard Season 3.

[@mikewashko]

I said the same thing

[@B0HICA]

It's comforting to see this happening after the ownership change. It's reassuring that they won't just dump STO

[@rafaelwow]

"My Star Treks" were TNG and the Movies with the original series cast, I will miss the Earth Space Dock from that era.

[@BalokJr.]

Absolute agreement!!!

[@CaptainJasonC]

Just play on console we don't have this new fancy one

[@Tuskin38]

@@CaptainJasonC PC won't either for a while, this is just the test branch.

[@Zeithri]

Unless they change it, that Stardock should still be all Fleet docks and Starbase 4 if I recall. I don't play on the test server so I have no idea, but I can't see them changing all of these.

[@conservativegamer1566]

Maybe we will get ESD museum?

[@SilentZephyrs]

glad to see you can still glitch yourself into the out of bounds areas on the interior of ESD, the glitch has been around since they changed to the current interior almost 10 years ago, always found it fun to host parties with friends down on the floor of the shuttlebay and confuse everyone how we got down therew or got onto the outside of ESD and ran round to the window of the bar.

[@seabreezeuk4]

What ideas would people have for an in game fleet museum??A fleet museum done well could be SO good. Geordi in Admiral Quinn's office, visit the interiors of the hero ships etc. Could be awesome.

[@seabreezeuk4]

Love it, and love the iterative improvements. I SO SO hope that they also drop in Athan Prime and the Fleet Museum.

[@Z4r4sz]

Lets hope they make spacedock MUCH bigger.

[@CardGameNut]

According to Nick Duguid, the only reference they had for relative sizes was the Enterprise-F leaving Spacedock during "Vox." Using that scale, Sol Station/new ESD actually came in *under* the size of the current ESD station. They roughly doubled it to at least match the height of "ESD I" (as he's calling the currently-on-Holodeck ESD station).

[@mikewashko]

I knew this was coming when I saw the new Spacedock orbiting earth in Picard. So I’m not surprised the only way I will accept this happily however is if old ESD added to Athan prime as the fleet museum complete with legendary ships and an interior I can visit

[@seabreezeuk4]

Agreed. A fleet museum done well could be SO good. Geordi in Admiral Quinn's office, visit the interiors of the hero ships etc. Could be awesome. What other ideas would people have for an in game fleet museum?

[@mikewashko]

@ The Enterprise-E and Sovereign class interior done right she does and always has deserved better. The D has been given her rightful place of honor it’s time to bring the E home too.

[@LuggageStardate]

Ferengi with the energy whip should be guarding the exchange.

[@hughejass9461]

Thanks for the video. It looks very detailed so I'm glad they're still working on the game. However, I'd prefer new content instead of new visuals but this is a start at least. Keep up the great work.

[@orionlandianproductions]

i cant wait to see this when it eventually comes to the console versions

[@stankyyboi]

they really gotta change the Earth model color it's way too brown, Earth isn't brown that looks like Vulcan

[@Intriguing1998]

@@stankyyboi that was my thought too.

[@BalokJr.]

@@Intriguing1998 As well!

[@Intriguing1998]

You’d think that the capital of a mature space civilization would have far more orbital stations. All they need to do is put background stations in for the immersion.

[@keyboardt8276]

The Federation is still in its infancy in terms of space travel, most of its ships are the size of dinghys by the standards of most other sci fi (its largest ships may be the size of other sci fi's corvettes or frigates). So it only makes sense that its orbital infrastructure is similarly lacking.

[@CrazyNights1015]

Looks amazing! I didn't even know they were updated ESD! Thank you, devs

[@Arrowthorne]

Oh a new ESD model? ...Wait a minute... this means... GOD DAMN IT, the Borg's going to blow up the current one aren't they?

[@ryersonfitzpatrick7955]

Newman!....I mean E'Genn!

[@Asuno1321]

does the one we have atm not become the fleet museum from Gordi ?

[@shauntempley9757]

@@Asuno1321 We are beyond Picard Season 3. Past the fight that those seasons have only just hinted at.

[@PartTimeGoblinSlayer]

As a borg player that cosplays as still being part of the collective, I'll keep it in mind. 😁

[@TimberwolfCY]

It looks pretty damn sweet. Detailing is excellent. Like you said there's quite a bit of work in areas most will either never see, or rarely see. Someone's put quite a bit of soul into that, and it shows. Very cool.

[@MichaelPohanka]

Looks great. I hope there will be interesting story mission where old spacedock will be damaged/destroyed and then we will get this new one as replacement like they did it before when they reworked ground map.

[@adambrown6669]

The old one should just be moved to athan prime for the starship museum, which is where several hero ships should be permanently placed(though STO being non canon gives it some liberties to not include every hero ship)

[@CardGameNut]

Nick Duguid (Tumerboy) has been talking about the station on BlueSky. He says there's not enough bandwith to make this part of a story mission, so it's simply a Quality-of-Life type upgrade. Once it's live on Holodeck, it's just there, is how I interpret that.

[@CardGameNut]

@@adambrown6669 Nick Duguid says there are no plans for a special map, but they are keeping the model for "ESD I" (probably moreso meaning they're not deleting it outright, so it gives them the option if they'd like to re-use it).

[@adambrown6669]

@CardGameNut It makes sense for it to stay, it most likely will appear in old missions still. It would be nice if perhaps next time we get the star trek day thing we have that station as the place to go, with all the hero ships, including those present in Picard, with the addition of the Enterprise B and C which have been notably absent for some reason. Plus they could have the G finally appear too, we could even get a PvE based on the earth battle, but a unique one that would have two teams in the same overall instance just entirely different combat regions. One team would be engaging the assimilated fleet and protecting the starbase, the other would be battling through the borg cube to destroy the core at the center, the defense team would have to hold out and keep earth safe long enough for the attacking team to successfully destroy the borg ship. A separate ground PvE inside the cube and inside the starbase with a similar mechanic could also be a thing, with dynamic events going on around the teams reflecting the battles going on elsewhere, the starbase team would be very aware of the battle outside and be able to look out at the fleet attacking and see the Titan A and ships that would be dependant on whatever the players in the starbase had all flying around in combat. The borg cube team would have slightly less intensity but at the end would have their ship show up above them to beam them up and fly out like the enterprise D did.

[@dand8538]

Looks good. Looking forward to flying round it and getting some screenshots when its complete.

[@darkmaster83]

Am not going to lie, this looks absolutely amazing! Our home is getting revamp all! Our Earth.

[@k0v4c]

It's good that they're still working on the game

[@lonnyjohnson8732]

Thanks for sharing Spencer. I can't wait for this to get into the game!

[@samanthatemplar4901]

I remember Kael saying they weren't going to do this. This just goes to show anything is still possible for this game. I'm happy they did this.

[@JamieFHarbert]

personally think this new Earth looks more red-brown does STO know something about climate change we don't know?

[@tenpiano1920]

This looks genuinely beautiful. It's fabulous. It's GORGEOUS. It's _STUNNING._ It's like being IN _Star Trek: Picard._ Seeing the new ESD also makes me feel like I'm watching _Star Trek_ for the first time all over again; I feel a sense of awe and wonder. Thank you so much for this video!

[@Yandarval]

Apart from looking dumpy. The outriggers really messes with the elegance of the old ESD. It needs to be a LOT longer to balance the outrigger pods.

[@TomCat777]

Pretty cool. Had a vintage feel to it with the platforms

[@ryker4455]

Isn’t this the 2nd renovation. I think they did the last one 10 years ago.

[@CardGameNut]

ESD Exterior has seen at least 3 versions total, yes: Launch Day ESD; TMP-/TNG-style ESD; and now Picard-style Sol Station/Probert Station/ESD.

[@dizzydevil547]

@@CardGameNut yep TBH i wish they would update starfleet academy ..ther is so much wasted space there in the main building ..all those corridors in the back where the bank / exchange is aprt from a few holodecks you cant use its a waste .....even if they actualy added the shuttle bay were it should be oir even opend up the 2nd level it would open it up a bit more !

[@Lennis01]

@@dizzydevil547 They actually did update the Starfleet Academy map not that long ago.

[@MotoAviator]

This is fantastic. Wonder if they'll move the other one other Athan Prime and give us a Museum. lol

[@criggs1978]

That's what I'm waiting for

[@Ashendal]

So I'm guessing in the next story mission the various Borg team up and finally destroy ESD for this to get a full redo like that. Looks great artwise though so the team did a great job on it.

[@CardGameNut]

No story connection, unfortunately. It'll simply replace the current ESD space map, according to Nick Duguid (Tumerboy).

[@shauntempley9757]

Well, it should have had an overhaul after the Undine came close to destroying it, and the Iconians full assault on it. I am surprised it did not get this sooner. I get that it is possible that the ESD total rebuild definitely happened after Seedea Base got totally destroyed in a warp breach core breach by J'Ula's number 1 using a computer virus. That event alone would freak out the Federation Council.

[@Warmaker01]

"The most important part of the map." Indeed. This is where the real PVP happens.

[@angeleyesninja]

Brother, it's 1800brokensoul, I've been away for a while after being put in acoma for a while. Thank you for making such good videos. I will be returning to the game soon. Your videos kept my mind busy and informed. Can't wait to get back in the game.

[@realplonk]

wow it's been a long time since i've seen a video from you. A coma? Well I'm glad you woke up and sounds like things are getting back to normal for you. Good luck :)

[@angeleyesninja]

@realplonk Thank you much.. it's going to be a while, but at least I can log on every now & then.

[@rprlunn93]

Shows good promise they not just going to let the game die or ignore Old stuff and just make everything that's old static and focus on only new stuff

[@stonewbie5981]

Interesting change. I don't hate the model, just not a fan of the new design. I really like the ST III spacedock model.

[@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent]

im guessing the change will happen sometime next year. in the prime verse it became starfleet museum, its probable ours wont have such a peaceful retirement

[@Armiger97003]

Can’t wait to see this for console ESD looks great from the outside love to see they updated it

[@irishhawk1]

You missed the fact the DJ is gone in the club

[@Daimo83]

Imagine if the first hello from DECA was dropping a ton of updates...

[@drakron]

Ah, Probert Station. I wouldnt be surprised if when the anniversary comes we get Frontier Day since the reason why Cryptic seem reluctant to replace ESD was there is a damaged model of the station used in a mission as it starts to break apart, considering Probert Station suffers damage during the attack they likely also created a damaged model so it can be used for that mission. As for ESD, they can just use it as the Fleet Museum and be accessible to all factions, the model is showing its age ... I also hope considering the new Earth model they start thinking about properly scale stations instead of being stuck with notions as "the players must be able to see the station" that quit frankly, never made sense to me.

[@darthdragonborn1076]

Typhoon in the back ground 🎉

[@Yandarval]

Now you need to test if you can still get onto the outside hull of ESD.

[@UKSHARPSHOOTER78]

I like this 👌 would be nice to see them update the warp graphics animation to be more in line with picard

[@aarontyler69]

It reminds me quite a lot of the mothership from Close Encounters of The Third Kind, before it flips over to land.

[@alternative915]

Would be cool or funny that there's a explanation to the change like "we've been attacked by end game threat for like 7 times in 5 years so starfleet decide to finally upgrade ESD"

[@AdamKafei]

"We finally upgraded ESD but didn't build any defence platforms for it."

[@Ionotron]

Not sure if I like this one better than the iconic old one but of course it is the 25. century, something new is to be expected. One last gift from Cryptic? At least the idea?

[@shawnrashall6323]

I could see this happening with the next episode drop. Similar to when the Undine attacked ESD and we got the current station.

[@KiNGSaRG81]

Glad they’re updating it. Looks fantastic

[@toval76]

I wonder if the McKinley Station on the other side of Earth is still there.

[@Rider-zr7ix]

Looks sweet Boss thanks for showing.

[@Jeremy-83]

The outside looks really good tbh

[@tom611]

Huh. Neat. I hope we get to see it in combat. The current ESD is kinda a wuss, with getting de-rezzed (it got better) without even firing a shot last we saw it in a mission, but Picard ESD took on the entire Federation fleet there for Fleet Day for quite a bit before falling.

[@j.chappel1160]

I’d love to see blueprints of this Spacedock.

[@vichraev.5386]

So they ARE continuing to develop the game...that's promising. I just wish they'd communicate something.

[@chadwickmccarty4944]

A difference in the lighting? Dare I speculate about the return of the day & night cycle on Risa eventually lol.

[@jonnybridin]

Hopefully this means we get the Athan prime museum social zone next!

[@BryceKant]

I can't agree that this is a good change. It's not bad in its own right, but I much prefer the original Spacedock. This looks too small, and more like some deep space station or smaller outpost. It feels like that just decided to change it for the sake of changing it, and that is never a good idea. Now, if there was an in-game, in-story reason that would be something else; such as the old Spacedock being destroyed and this was build as a replacement, as fast as possible.

[@dave_n8pu]

Been playing since 2012, I 'believe' this is only the second update they have done on ESD since I've been playing.

[@adambrown6669]

I'm glad this is happening, been hoping for it since we saw the new one in Picard, only issue I have is that it seems smaller than it should be, the one in Picard had a massive fleet engaging it and it dwarfed that fleet. Also if earth gets attacked again going forward I hope they plan on letting this ESD actually fight, if it can take on a fleet for hours under constant attack then it should be able to defend itself from the groups of random enemies we deal with from time to time. Sad however to see the interior is unchanged, was hoping we'd get an interior that made more sense rather than the massive empty room we have currently, combined with oddly placed sickbays and a corridor that is entirely pointless

[@CardGameNut]

Nick Duguid (Tumerboy) has been talking on BlueSky about how they came to decide on the size. Long story short, though, they didn’t have official dimensions, so they based their original size on the scene where the Enterprise-F left Spacedock. They found it was actually a *lot* smaller than what he’s terming “ESD I” (the current one on Holodeck), so they doubled the size so it’s at least as tall as “ESD I.” Personally, I think some of the feeling is due to the new model for Earth, which Tumerboy says is a full globe now (so large,it messed with the old UGC “basement”, which he deleted, which he didn’t realize until later was connected to the doors and their interacts).

[@Khaz8969]

Looks like it´s yurops time to face ESD

[@AdamKafei]

I'm really tempted to start (another) new character but then I remember the endgame grind and the spacebar macro... Really wish I could play STO without taking years off my spacebar's life.

[@setoredan]

Nice to see they were working on improving the graphics. Only time will tell if the world will be continued or let to die. Thank you for the information, sir.

[@IcyPelican]

Thanks Spencer

[@theconfederation]

This......this is stupid beautiful!!!!! Oh my god!!!

[@davidkaye8712]

Let us hope it does not effect the stellar server performance :)

[@everettjohnson9374]

I like it, the old one is good but it's needed an update

[@JWJTRAINOR]

It’s much smaller the map has shrunk the station shrunk, and the Earth has gotten bigger

[@canny7x]

The Earth is now 'brownish' because of all the smog. 😜😜

[@jeremydale4548]

They’re ACTUALLY doing that?! I once JOKED bout that! EDIT: Holy crap that looks good.

[@AMVShooterUnlimited]

Loving the look of the station though I will miss the old Earth Dock. Got to ask, what ship is that you flying. I've seen it before but can't remember where

[@CasualSAB]

Suliban Cell Ship

[@GammaBeta]

does the McKinley Station still exist? (if its answered in the video, soz I didn't get to watch it in detail)

[@Scrapheap979]

Curious to see if they went back and changed the station in the other missions featuring it getting messed up. Though this station tanked so much damage that it did in the show that it would seem like it had a downgrade

[@LostInTheFarmersMarket]

Oh no...the old ESD is gonna get nuked isn't it?! Starfleet's Space station Insurance Premiums will go through the roof!

[@jeffcarroll3831]

I wonder if they'll do the museum Jordi was at in Picard

[@Zorsh]

seems a bit small? can a Connie III fit through those main doors? that's the only size reference we had in the show and it doesn't look like it'd fit into this version

[@DeathRayonLA]

Wow, I'm a freakin fan!

[@poetscotty]

They so keep updating it, and you know, upgrade the defenses too you know because earth keep getting attacked.

[@darmok3420]

I was in high hopes that the new owners reject that kurtzman fail shows std and picard, but sadly they do not.

[@johnclark2849]

I wonder if we can still glitch inside the shipyard

[@iainballas]

So... the new developer is actually going to keep working on the game? I had just bought lifetime subscription right before the transfer was announced, and was bashing my head against the keyboard wondering if I should chargeback if the game was going to be dead in a couple years. This gives me a bit of hope!

[@Zeithri]

It's upgraded from a Class 4 Starbase to a Class 5 Starbase... I think? I wonder if I can still teleport into it...

[@Moxnix1701]

That is so weird that there is this much effort for the tribble test server.

[@kailimyee7253]

It would be great if it was brighter on ground in terms of lighting

[@madman123456]

why is earth brown?

[@Zimionz]

Work in progress, I hope. It could really use some green and blue. Great detail, but it looks like a desert planet....

[@MatthewBluefox]

Population is approximately nine billion ... all Borg ...

[@AugustGoth]

Glad to see things are brewing!

[@MrNBridger]

Awesome, I hope they also give us the Fleet Museum

[@trekker683]

I hope they update all the planet models.

[@Lennis01]

They'll probably adjust the scaling of the exterior as input from players comes in. It seems silly to put so much effort into a new ESD only to have the scaling ruin the immersion. Then again, the scaling for the Miranda/Centaur hasn't been right since the game launched.

[@nickryan4126]

What about the story missions with the battles at ESD?

[@Heavensrun]

Whaaaaa? I thought they literally said they *weren't* going to do this.

[@Avalon304]

Gross station. Nice planet. Nice to see new ships in the interior too...

[@tednugent1351]

why isn't your cell ship rotating?

[@Blutaar42]

I don't think they will change the interior of ESD anytime soon. there are too many story missions using that map. small changes maybe but nothing major. on the other hand there are still missions available that use the old DS9 map even though that got an overhaul years ago

[@briguy345]

Oh Christ that's beautiful

[@chaff5]

Holy cow that Earth model is amazing!

[@s_1884]

Old boy better turn up with a ship collection around it. just sayin.

[@NeoK182]

Some missing parts so obviously a WIP but I hope there is a lot more to be done here. The model itself is more angular than what we saw in PIC S3 and missing several lighting effects. The material they are using really looks wrong, in PIC S3 it's exterior looked pretty much identical to TMP ESD. But maybe some of that is lighting and that honestly is my biggest problem with the new map, this is in space yet has sunset like lighting. That's not how lighting works in space and just makes the Earth look dusty and yellow vs the blue marble it is. I like that Earth is a bigger but also the night time lights look much worse. Whole map lighting needs to change to be more cooler vs warm lighting. Honestly I was hoping they wouldn't do this though. I love TMP ESD and we already have missions with it in STO and this just feels like another 'lets copy picard' thing that is just unnecessary since STO is it's own timeline. Since it's happening though I only hope that we get a Fleet Museum map with the TMP spacedock as well. Interior wise I like the updated docking bay, old one definitely showed its age. Brighter lighting is a nice plus. Also great to see the Typhoon and other modern ships there. I do kinda wish they swapped out the Protostar though. I miss when every new ship release it got updated but IMO they should put an Odyssey there as the permanent option, or maybe the Exeter. Something STO original and not a gamble ship.

[@stankyyboi]

we won't be seeing this for another 3-4 months, I doubt this is the finished version of the map

[@aka-47k]

you took extra a small ship just so it doesnt look to small, lol when all the bigger ships fly into it it will be comical like k13.

[@shailathunderbird5319]

I wonder if this base will be just for the invasion event they are doing on Monday, or if its gonna be transfered over to holodeck too , i like the old one so i dont want to see this on holodeck

[@Wildwood56]

I will miss being a tng but I'm ready to go to tmp star ship skins