You know it's good when you can't stop talking about it || "Awaken" animation breakdown & discussion

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This was... this was supposed to be like a 20 minute video at most. Oh boy, I have a problem. My mouth is really dry now.
ANYWAY, let's talk about the rock-solid filmmaking on display in this animated short, and let's talk about it for an INAPPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF TIME.

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@andrewwang3904
@andrewwang3904 6 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone who actually appreciates the Jhin/Camille shot like it should be.
@lycheemyusic
@lycheemyusic 5 жыл бұрын
YES
@firephantom115
@firephantom115 4 жыл бұрын
I want to hang that shit on my wall
@ashwainthobourne4874
@ashwainthobourne4874 3 жыл бұрын
Gave me goosebumps
@nickrenaud4936
@nickrenaud4936 3 жыл бұрын
You mean as much as jhin appreciated it?
@RainEDJ
@RainEDJ 3 жыл бұрын
I think he forgot to mention that Jhin specifically saved his 4th shot which is the most powerful one, to give Camille a beautiful “death”.
@VladDascaliuc
@VladDascaliuc 6 жыл бұрын
Jhin is the MVP of this cinematic.
@alchemicpunk1509
@alchemicpunk1509 6 жыл бұрын
Jhin is The MVP.
@HotBread213
@HotBread213 6 жыл бұрын
he allways seems to take the spotlight. remember project skins? vayne was supposed to be the main event, but jhin took the spotlight. I love it
@everenjohn
@everenjohn 6 жыл бұрын
They call him mentally unstable but am I mentally unstable just because the 4th shot hits so good?
@leigh-jeanterblanche5833
@leigh-jeanterblanche5833 6 жыл бұрын
I recommend you go watch Necrit take on this. He explains that Jhin's traps are not magical but just normal traps and that Jhin imagines the traps be full of colour but in reality it is just blood splatting everywhere.
@ifeelit9530
@ifeelit9530 6 жыл бұрын
@@Miikudo nahhh
@mdcandronic
@mdcandronic 6 жыл бұрын
1 hour video about a 3 and a half minute animation. Never change Skyen
@hyugo1359
@hyugo1359 6 жыл бұрын
And I loved every single minute of that hour :p
@dhonatabayerl4347
@dhonatabayerl4347 6 жыл бұрын
Better compare it to the amount of time that it took them to make the animation
@Rubella19
@Rubella19 6 жыл бұрын
probably would watch part2
@heccsa7532
@heccsa7532 6 жыл бұрын
Jhin makes me a very happy boi
@clearlynotchloe2714
@clearlynotchloe2714 6 жыл бұрын
massmiliano minio no? not at all?
@lycheemyusic
@lycheemyusic 5 жыл бұрын
same
@p4s1v3
@p4s1v3 5 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there. 4 lines... clever
@batu5180
@batu5180 5 жыл бұрын
Im so sorry There was 4 Comments .
@grapehool
@grapehool 4 жыл бұрын
@@batu5180 NOOOOO!!! WHYY U MONSTER
@poopsicle1654
@poopsicle1654 6 жыл бұрын
I like how within just a moment, Camille was able to navigate through Jhin’s traps with precision, and no hesitation. Camille’s eyes also turned from blue to orange, which meant her shield might’ve activated since she sensed danger (her subordinate stepping on Jhin’s trap).
@M4TT2244
@M4TT2244 6 жыл бұрын
Well i mean if she didnt dodge everything up until the last shot i think jhin wouldve been disappointed because that was the whole point of his show that final showdown with him and his 4th shot
@himlaz_2398
@himlaz_2398 6 жыл бұрын
Isn't jhins forth AA empowered?
@monkpawfire
@monkpawfire 6 жыл бұрын
yes
@Juice-Chan
@Juice-Chan 6 жыл бұрын
For me she looked like she got a bit unnerved maybe even anxious. If you compare it how she enters the room as she owns it. But later she realized that she is the one that gets played on. But she can´t or don´t want to retreat anymore. It goes against her pride as warrior. So she just goes deeper and deeper into the trap. She is a professional but Jhin managed with his whole set up to break into her psyche and make her his toy.
@Akira-Touzen
@Akira-Touzen 3 жыл бұрын
@@Juice-Chan I guess they couldn't even retreat even after that, Jhin is a active threat and if they miss him, he's gone until he kills again. So it's all in or nothing
@dizzydynamo230
@dizzydynamo230 6 жыл бұрын
Camille had some other clever references and framing I really enjoyed. When Camille's soldiers first step into Jhin's trap, there is a shot where she looks around and her eyes turn orange then back to blue. I love this for a couple of reasons; the first being it sells that she isn't entirely human. There is clearly something automaton about her, and it's this sort of callback to the trope of robots and AI's turning red at the sign of a threat. The second reason I love this shot is because it's a very smart and subtle way of referencing her Adaptive Defenses passive where she sees her allies taking physical damage, and is processing that information to know what she's up against. The last thing I wanted to mention was Camille in the 'glory shot'. If you notice, you can see her left leg is trailing her coattails that are very sharp and similar in shape to her legs, and the imagery creates this follow through in the motion of the kick even though by that point in the cinematic it's a still image. Great stuff.
@airelia4051
@airelia4051 6 жыл бұрын
Dizzy Dynamo The Camille scenes were definitely my favourite in the entire cinematic
@PinoySamurai008
@PinoySamurai008 6 жыл бұрын
Jhin traps deals magic dmg tho? as far as I remember.
@brendo8847
@brendo8847 6 жыл бұрын
That’s why her eyes were blue when looking at the trap being activated. It turns to orange looking at Jhin or his gun.
@zedre7633
@zedre7633 6 жыл бұрын
It could also be a small hint that even though Camille is a calm and confident agent, the moment of the soldiers getting trapped still unnerves her for a moment, and then she recollects herself and goes back to her mission.
@gecgec9617
@gecgec9617 6 жыл бұрын
Her passive in-game gives you a shield thar is adaptative to the type of damage you're receiving, in the cinematic her eye goes blue because jhin traps deal magic damage, but then it goes back to orange because jhin gun attacks are physical damage, it's the same as in the game
@Mitoru.
@Mitoru. 6 жыл бұрын
FUN FACT: In the noxus versus Ionia battle Kled is there somewhere cutting people up and screaming about invisible badgers but they decided we don't want to see that.
@bigvidboi4909
@bigvidboi4909 6 жыл бұрын
isnt he an invisible badger then?
@Fear-less-De-Adventure
@Fear-less-De-Adventure 6 жыл бұрын
THE PLOT THICKENS
@mandast7455
@mandast7455 6 жыл бұрын
I would have actually loved to see that but I guess it would ruin the seriousness of the situation
@gimmeyourrights8292
@gimmeyourrights8292 2 жыл бұрын
AWAKEN! AWAKEN! THE FIGHT IS AT YOUR DOOR! "C'MON SKARL WE WINNING THIS WAR!" AWAKEN! AWAKEEEEEEEEEN!
@mirarobin4096
@mirarobin4096 6 жыл бұрын
I LOVED the rendering of Rivens muscles. She feels so powerful and the motions she makes are fantastic.
@halfonsotercero1212
@halfonsotercero1212 6 жыл бұрын
I really love that even though she's clearly a beast of a woman, because of her design she still need to grab the sword with two hands. It would make no sense if she was able to wield it onehanded like ingame, even though her arms look like they could crush my skull without effort she's still slim, it doesn't look strong enough to lift and move arround that big chunk of metal
@BalaenicepsRex3
@BalaenicepsRex3 6 жыл бұрын
@@halfonsotercero1212 I keep forgetting the sword is made of metal and not stone (I thought it was of stone at first). That's way heavier!
@Dhorannis
@Dhorannis 6 жыл бұрын
One thing that was also awesome for all characters: the eyes. The faces in general are great but the eyes are amazing if you ask me.
@felliu7785
@felliu7785 6 жыл бұрын
i love how powerful irelia felt when her animations while fighting were so shit
@kaytosh5735
@kaytosh5735 6 жыл бұрын
E X T R A T H I C C
@KneeCaps
@KneeCaps 6 жыл бұрын
21:40 They had "RIOT shields"
@Noah-nz6lq
@Noah-nz6lq 6 жыл бұрын
KneeCaps no; get back in your cage.
@norman2258
@norman2258 6 жыл бұрын
KneeCaps shut the up fuck up kneecaps, im waiting for a new video
@chivi-
@chivi- 6 жыл бұрын
Oh hey, I watch your videos. Nice to see that check mark.
@lime4980
@lime4980 6 жыл бұрын
Ffs
@villagerc7130
@villagerc7130 6 жыл бұрын
UPLOAD
@silvervelvet8893
@silvervelvet8893 6 жыл бұрын
13:04 "Cutting his face into pieces" Specifically 4 pieces. Just a little interesting fact.
@mr.bluefox3511
@mr.bluefox3511 5 жыл бұрын
Really !!? Event in that scene there was another "4" !!!! Dang it, Jhin !!
@joshbowdish9851
@joshbowdish9851 4 жыл бұрын
DAMNIT that's so good. Nice catch
@samamamacusb2049
@samamamacusb2049 4 жыл бұрын
Damn. He really likes his 4's.
@arandomrose5392
@arandomrose5392 4 жыл бұрын
That's a nice detail over there.
@flamingwheel9926
@flamingwheel9926 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.bluefox3511 he has complete control when he is in his environment, I have a theory that HE himself, made his part of the Cinematic
@banan9247
@banan9247 6 жыл бұрын
I got goose bumps during this cinematic because of camille tbh
@BalaenicepsRex3
@BalaenicepsRex3 6 жыл бұрын
SAME. *shivers*
@mim-_
@mim-_ 6 жыл бұрын
@@sheikhu1039 shes neutral, camille would kill anyone for wealth
@Brokeeed
@Brokeeed 6 жыл бұрын
@@mim-_but killing for wealth isnt neutral xD
@MurIocMage
@MurIocMage 6 жыл бұрын
Me too i get shiver even from mecha Sion Login screen
@UniquelyAwful
@UniquelyAwful 6 жыл бұрын
Jhin steals the show for me tbh, like even the Violin that’s going on in the background is his signature (from his champion reveal theme)
@ChiefderWahrheit
@ChiefderWahrheit 6 жыл бұрын
Jhin, watching this video: "Ah, I see that you are a man of culture as well."
@dumbghost3109
@dumbghost3109 6 жыл бұрын
Some lore issues at the beginning. Jhin didn't escape. He was freed by the Ionian rulers and is used as an assassin but he can roam pretty freely when not doing his job, and camille isn't in law enforcement. She's basically the black ops devision of her family and only cares about Jhin because he's a perceived threat to her family.
@fridaybutitssaturday1362
@fridaybutitssaturday1362 3 жыл бұрын
Atleast Camille is family oriented :/
@ascii_9727
@ascii_9727 6 жыл бұрын
One thing that this cinematic made me realise is how much of an unplanned unique position riot have for league of legends when it comes on what to do in the future, league of legends is in an insanely hard videogame genre, the MOBA genre, which means that to play it to a good level a good majority of the community sink in a lot of time and effort which unnoticeably also causes people to really really connect with their mains not only on gameplay but in lore and personality sometimes just by sheer pseudo stockholm syndrome, you can see it on the forums, people almost get a sense of identity by saying which champions they play and how they play them. I have so many friends that play LoL and really love their mains as characters even though similar characters in other media don't ring any bells to them just because oftenly it's flat out not even the kind of characters that they normally like but because in LoL they've spent so many hours with that specific character they just started growing to like them outside of gameplay, also so many people obviously get really excited and pumped up when they see their mains on the cinematics, they are almost like celebrities, can you imagine the potential that riot has for making single player narrative driven games on the LoL universe? I get GOOSEBUMPS just thinking about a game in which you play through Ionia's Noxian invasion or the rise of Shurima led by Azir in Journey-like deserts or the Demacian revolution or the calamity of the void or the unification of Freljord under Ashe's leadership
@Juice-Chan
@Juice-Chan 6 жыл бұрын
yep It looks a bit random what Riot is doing. But in my opinion they connect the best with the fanbase by branching into many directions at the same time. It´s not just to hook up people more to their game. It is not just a type of marketing strategy. It gives them tons of options to pick later on in time. And I think there is at least a vague grand plan they follow. What I realised over the years is that they spent not an insignificant amount of time not just polishing the characters and their specific lores. No they polished the whole setting and the faction they are coming from too. Even giving similar style attributes over many champions so that even if you wouldn´t know yasuo you would realise by his appearence and his armor that he most likely is an Ionian. The style of armor the ethnicity etc. pinpoints that. Similar with Freljordians or the rework of the Yordles, Shurima people, the Void. It wasn´t anything like that in the beginning. It was just a fantasy game like everything else. But with the years the created an actual world around the game. They refined, fefactored and rebuild everything over the years. So they are actively world building like Marvel did with all its movies to finally wrap everything together in Infinity war. I think Riot is following the same strategy. And as I said for that they are branching in a lot of areas, through animated shorts, artwork, web content, comics etc. On top of that you have streamers for each of the beloved characters, regional tournaments in a lot of countrys that are actively supported by riot, Cosplays, Twitch Rivals, Worlds etc etc. It´s all to establish not only the game but the thing as whole. This strategy made League of Legends not only survive but thrive over a decade. I think only a few games managed to keep people interested for so long. Riot is doing something what I really would like to see more often from game developers. Not pooring out game after game each year with half finished games. But more putting real effort and care into their product. To make it the best possible.
@nordicnerdy4032
@nordicnerdy4032 5 жыл бұрын
My only fear with them doing other things with other characters is some getting left in the dark. Or characters that are peoples mains but because they don't play a big role in the main story they won't appear a lot...
@M4TT2244
@M4TT2244 6 жыл бұрын
Jhin didnt shoot those soldiers it was the bombs blowing up after a certain time he only fires 3 shots one right before camille jumps and 2 while she makes her second leap. He has his 4th shot ready for her as she jumps in for the attack as his grand finale
@rahulvanage9638
@rahulvanage9638 6 жыл бұрын
He does shoot them you can even see the bullet trail going to them.
@mihailxenokalakis7310
@mihailxenokalakis7310 6 жыл бұрын
As far as i know Jhin is not using Bombs or and explosives the only magical thing is is Gun .....his mines are........ just razor sharp knifes spinning and cutting the person into a bloddy mess the purple smoke is most likely just what Jhin sees and thats ..... art.
@Agonystt
@Agonystt 6 жыл бұрын
But he never shoot her, and probably won't. Because he's gonna die in a couple frames after the freeze LUL
@Al-eo2li
@Al-eo2li 6 жыл бұрын
he did shoot the soldiers.
@traddcooper
@traddcooper 6 жыл бұрын
@@Agonystt Nah, after the freeze you just hear a resounding... "FOUR!"
@pol-raimonlordaroure1033
@pol-raimonlordaroure1033 6 жыл бұрын
thank god someone noticed the stiffnes of irelia's animation, also, some camille movements are a little weird (camille avoiding explosions/camille hookshooting the second time, it's actually going upwards when the hook hasn't touched the ceiling
@jojovsart7867
@jojovsart7867 6 жыл бұрын
Wanted to point that out too , I didnt rly like the movement in many shots :I
@ximienlundquist8487
@ximienlundquist8487 6 жыл бұрын
Pol-Raimon Lorda Roure the animation makes me cringe a little because of how unnatural the characters move at times. I’m glad a lot of people like it though
@shxwnhx
@shxwnhx 6 жыл бұрын
I think the hook thing is just the hooks pulling her body upward before connecting with the ceiling
@Nessmess001
@Nessmess001 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! Everything else was gorgeous and amazing! But I feel like the characters fighting were stiff in general. I noticed it especially in irelia and in riven when she uses the chains to take the guy down (especially stiff on the guy). Excluding that, it's breathtaking
@Enneamorph
@Enneamorph 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know what you mean with Camille's bomb dodging, but everything else I totally get. I think she's just sidestepping the best she can with sword-legs.
@eduardoserpa1682
@eduardoserpa1682 6 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved the sudden cut to Camille's SWAT breaking in as the song goes on about the devil knocking right at the door. The Piltover stuff was just godlike. Ionia was definitely the least interesting and personal of the three.
@akistz6432
@akistz6432 6 жыл бұрын
We got a lot of... *thinks how to call the colour *... SAND
@pwl2992
@pwl2992 5 жыл бұрын
XD
@kleitoes
@kleitoes 5 жыл бұрын
I was expecting yellow honestly
@arandomrose5392
@arandomrose5392 4 жыл бұрын
XD
@aberrantreptile
@aberrantreptile 3 жыл бұрын
Sand is the best colour
@lippemartinsm
@lippemartinsm 6 жыл бұрын
Can't believe you didn't talk about Camille's movement when she sees the jhin traps. The fluidity of her turning aroung and moving at the same time, her eyes turning orange meaning she's processing the danger and analysing it, but always keeping her posture, her personality, her core. It is just so well done.
@mybossismybaby728
@mybossismybaby728 6 жыл бұрын
I love how the crowd rises up and cheers at 30:21 and how Darius cheers on Draven when he catches his axes. Just shows how much time went in to this animation
@Caitcat1111
@Caitcat1111 6 жыл бұрын
"Magic not Asia" that has to be the best way I've ever heard someone describe ionia
@ApexGale
@ApexGale 6 жыл бұрын
I love how much flair Jhin has. Every movement he has in this trailer just has so much panache
@silverun280
@silverun280 6 жыл бұрын
aren't you glad I show you this beautiful picture of Camille about to cut me in half with her legs?" ~Jhin, the sadomasochist virtuoso
@ibbylaun2194
@ibbylaun2194 5 жыл бұрын
"it looks like she can barely lift a carton of milk" i died laughing xD
@gumolinoleum3500
@gumolinoleum3500 6 жыл бұрын
The "Riven jumping on Draven" glory shot looks like they are smiling. I love how it show that they are warriors (Draven more than Riven). They love to fight and these smiles woven into the money shot really get me.
@shent1059
@shent1059 6 жыл бұрын
The Piltover segment>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The other two segments. Try and fight me. You can't.
@tomm8218
@tomm8218 6 жыл бұрын
i cant fight you, because i agree
@epithet052
@epithet052 6 жыл бұрын
I like Dynasty Warrior.
@BalaenicepsRex3
@BalaenicepsRex3 6 жыл бұрын
When Camille appeared I fucking shivered.
@percy7841
@percy7841 6 жыл бұрын
Draven.
@ArtumTsumia
@ArtumTsumia 6 жыл бұрын
The Piltover segment was the best. As much as I also liked the Noxus one, that moment when Camille's squad breaks the door down is perfect. A dozen or so people there for Jhin. Even if you don't know the characters, it gives you a good idea who these people are and how serious things will get.
@voidfly
@voidfly 5 жыл бұрын
Me when I watched 8hrs of T B Skyen reviewing LOR cards: OMG THAT'S A FRAME YALL THAT'S A FRAME
@Elartteco
@Elartteco 6 жыл бұрын
When i see this cinematic i said: "i cant wait to listen what t.b. say about this cinematic"
@kibrika
@kibrika 6 жыл бұрын
Same! And not dissapointed :)
@Marceleleco16
@Marceleleco16 6 жыл бұрын
Thi is all great but I am really impressed on the details on Draven and Riven. Draven's beard, fur coat and axes are so well designed that it alone probably took days to animate. Riven on the other hand is portrayed as a gladiator/slave but still can be considered sexy, not because she shows too much like Katarina, Leblanc, MF... but because she is powerful. Her back muscles, strong thighs and even sweat show they were not trying to go for the sexy "badass" lady, instead they were trying to portray what she really is, a soldier. From someone who dont like Riven in game (gameplay wise), I gotta say she was the highlight of the cinematic. Honestly, this is probably the best LoL cinematic I've seen in all these years and probably the best I have seen in a long time in gaming industry as a whole. Keep it up Riot.
@atocanboi409
@atocanboi409 5 жыл бұрын
30:34 I love how the crowd goes wild in the background the moment the chain drops to the ground
@aarohunter_8718
@aarohunter_8718 6 жыл бұрын
Camille said herself in the lore she is not a police officer, she just stops anything threatening her family and it’s success. She didn’t go to capture jhin, she went to kill him.
@milkymalkum5708
@milkymalkum5708 6 жыл бұрын
Dont forget that when Draven first catches his axes, high up there's some people cheering, but Darius is up there along with some others applauding his brother
@Soushi123
@Soushi123 6 жыл бұрын
Hey TBskyen, when you were talking about Irelia’s facial features, things like her eyes etc. I think it has base to it. The first thing I noticed when I saw Irelia in this cinematic, very reminded me of Stef Sanjati here on KZbin, who has Waardenburg syndrome, which causes unusual facial structures, noticeably their eyes, makes them more far apart and look bigger. Of course, Irelia is sorta based on Asian facial features, when you google “Waardenburg Syndrome Asian” you will Asian who have the syndrome with blue eyes. Of course it will be a stretch, but it is very interesting to compare and see the similarities. So I did feel like Irelia looked like a real person because I was familiar with the Waardenburg Syndrome :)
@airelia4051
@airelia4051 6 жыл бұрын
Soushi123 that’s what I thought of too
@cutieilliden9309
@cutieilliden9309 6 жыл бұрын
A friend sent me the cinematic, watched it and went "Oh this is awesome...Cant wait for Skyen to analyze it 😊" *Watches whole ad bc Skyen is amazing and deserves all the ad revenue*
@Stephen-Fox
@Stephen-Fox 6 жыл бұрын
As someone who enjoys animation but doesn't know enough about it to appreciate it like you do - I felt it was excellent use of montage, parallelling these three scenarios that as someone not familiar with LoL at all looked like they could have been from three very different fantasy films, and providing them the same vibe and energy, especially with how this was cut as you mentioned towards the end. Dutch angles are apparently called that because German cinema of the 1910s when they were cinematically isolated due to WWI was big on the impressionist cinematic movement, which used theme extensively - It's a bastardization of Deutsch.
@mehazc
@mehazc 6 жыл бұрын
49:50 Riven’s leg bends slightly following the rotation of man
@DatSn0w
@DatSn0w 6 жыл бұрын
49:41 I think this cut works is because the rotaional motion of the 'soldier' is there in the riven shot too - in her knee, which is in the same position in the frame as the soldier
@Matt_the_pirate
@Matt_the_pirate 4 жыл бұрын
41:19 I imagined Jhin sharing this shot on Instagram with this description xd
@GeazakiCosplay
@GeazakiCosplay 6 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for your take on it thank you!!! EDIT: I could listen to you speak for longer to be honest, everything is so interesting. And I'm pretty sure you wanted to talk about the transition on the minute 2:37 of the video, where Camille is going to ascend up to the chandelier and it smoothly cuts to akali also ascending to jump on sion's face. So SMOOTH
@greenhairedfae
@greenhairedfae 6 жыл бұрын
Jhin's face is cut in 4
@ecartht5858
@ecartht5858 6 жыл бұрын
Holy shit
@virusmom.
@virusmom. 6 жыл бұрын
There are 4 rows of seats as well.
@traddcooper
@traddcooper 6 жыл бұрын
"Everybody's watching!"
@s0ltinsert782
@s0ltinsert782 6 жыл бұрын
Where do we see his face cut in 4? I only see an eye man.
@Snakesrcool2003account
@Snakesrcool2003account 4 жыл бұрын
and 3 replys have 4 likes
@SpongeGirlKitty
@SpongeGirlKitty 6 жыл бұрын
LoL's artstyle is semi-realistic, so I don't see the issue with characters having large eyes (think of how a fully-rendered Zoe would look like). Irelia's face is decent by that standard.
@yarn7733
@yarn7733 3 жыл бұрын
Just make her look like toddler she would still look weird af tho
@nishantkhaklari83
@nishantkhaklari83 3 жыл бұрын
One of the most important things skyen did not mention is the music and sound. Lot of the scene don't seem to transition smoothly if you just read them visually, but the sound and music helps the viewer understand those scene transitions. For example the door opening scene of camila making an entry, where the music leads the viewer towards that sudden change in beat and you know it's going to be more aggressive. That's how you communicate it, using both visuals and audio. What skyen said about how they want us to be shocked is also kinda true. But It's more like it's saying "this is where things get interesting".
@arradon2825
@arradon2825 6 жыл бұрын
I already watched this trailer like 20 times but man I will still gonna watch your analysis video! I love listening to you dissecting this kind of cinematic videos XD
@MuriloMielke
@MuriloMielke 6 жыл бұрын
About the final shot between Camille and Jhin, a lot of people seems to ignore Jhin's shoulder-weapon when bowing is exactly aligned to Camille. That looks like a gran finale he would scheme. And about the Irelia's stiffness, it reminds me a LOT of those old Japanese martial movies when the fighters move/run/jump/attack almost not moving their backs.
@luckyday5721
@luckyday5721 Жыл бұрын
I love Rivens smerk when she headbut Draven. Both the symbolism and the fact that Draven got headbutted
@alexmercer2743
@alexmercer2743 6 жыл бұрын
I hope this implies we'll have more lore on Riven in the near future. I want to know why she's in Noxus.
@halfonsotercero1212
@halfonsotercero1212 6 жыл бұрын
Isn't she noxian? And after something she went on exile?
@alexmercer2743
@alexmercer2743 6 жыл бұрын
@@halfonsotercero1212 Our last piece of lore on her had her hanging out in Ionia with Yasuo and Irelia. If she's in Noxus now she either went back or got captured.
@NiraSader
@NiraSader 6 жыл бұрын
Well my money is on her having been captured
@hanabanana4637
@hanabanana4637 6 жыл бұрын
Something i appreciate is that compared to New Dawn this cinematic makes the female champions far more badass. You have Camille bursting through the door with her squad, completely serious and looking like she owns the place, Riven has a violent fistfight with dirt,sweat and muscles apparent on her body, and Irelia which is supposed to appear as more delicate/feminine still looks powerfull. Meanwhile New dawn has Ahri running around like a scared anime girl and Katarina giggling her boobs and getting near-stabbed in the Vag because you know, that's a tastefull thing to put in your animation.
@BalaenicepsRex3
@BalaenicepsRex3 6 жыл бұрын
Their personalities are conveyed a lot better here. The context around the characters is subtle yet easy to read and helps us see how everyone develops in that world. It's great!
@airelia4051
@airelia4051 6 жыл бұрын
To me Irelias movements are very stiff and slow, and she looks oddly skinny for a dancer and warrior
@notamemer7515
@notamemer7515 6 жыл бұрын
Couldnt agree more
@Felipera_
@Felipera_ 6 жыл бұрын
I disagree, with the exception of Riven all of the others are going Many x 1 in battle.
@Пашинамузыка
@Пашинамузыка 6 жыл бұрын
Ailuros, one woman army*
@Citrinitas_3
@Citrinitas_3 6 жыл бұрын
*Skyen,* we come here to listen to your detailed talk about animation and most of us know you for who you are, so there's no need to cut short. *We know what we're coming for and who we are coming to.* The more we get from you, the better. ;) I feel like Irelia was done by a different person that either didn't have much of experience in this field or just don't naturally feel what is wrong with what they are making. *As always, thank you for this breakdown. Real pleasure.*
@ameaninglessdemon9030
@ameaninglessdemon9030 6 жыл бұрын
The spectators stand up when Riven does the mic drop and that's amazing
@turkenheimer4448
@turkenheimer4448 6 жыл бұрын
49:30 The crossbow dude seems to look for something, then when he directs to the stage, seemingly finally going to find it we change to the arena where the upwards movement kind of has the same effect as the rotation of the crossbow dude -> the "stage" in the Background reveals itself
@NullGalactic
@NullGalactic 6 жыл бұрын
23:51 "And his eyes are always there" - TBSkyen 2019
@jianhonglin4294
@jianhonglin4294 6 жыл бұрын
As the soldier turns, the trail from his *tactical* flashlight shifts our attention to the point of focus within the next shot of Riven rising up
@kikochen9840
@kikochen9840 6 жыл бұрын
I liked Draven in there. He looks so hot, manly, man candy-ish... the beard does not look like chinese drawing, I can finally take him serious! ;)
@TheZshen
@TheZshen 6 жыл бұрын
I think the reason the cut at 49:57 is still effective is affinity. Affinity of motion. The rotation of the squad member is translated into the rising motion of Riven into the arena. Forward becomes upward. there's a great deal of fluidity and continuity. Pretty fantastic if you ask me.
@TheZshen
@TheZshen 6 жыл бұрын
You actually make the same point i just made in your analysis of the next cut, T B Skyen, when you underscore the affinity of motion in the transition from Noxus to Ionia through the movement forward (in this case, forward is from middle screen down).
@aigeek1991
@aigeek1991 6 жыл бұрын
One thing I liked about the Jhin/Camille bit, when the traps begin going off Camille's eyes light up orange for a second... in the game her shield she gets from her passive is blue when blocking magic dmg, and orange when blocking physical dmg (which Jhin does).
@wilddustdkv1755
@wilddustdkv1755 6 жыл бұрын
I´m pretty sure Jhin Trap damage deals magic damage ingame
@wizvodyani243
@wizvodyani243 6 жыл бұрын
Wilddust Dkv1 No, it scales with AD, by a large amount too.
@snowfox6148
@snowfox6148 5 жыл бұрын
Jhin traps does magical damage. But scale with ap and ad and convert to magical damage.
@pineapplefrostyfruits9225
@pineapplefrostyfruits9225 11 ай бұрын
During the first two shots of Jhin up close, as well: I just want to add that the dutch angles keep you in line with the angle his face is at. During the first shot, the piano's vector is skewed down, but we are in pretty much perfect parallel to the mask's chin. And the same with the shot immediately after: Jhin's face, where he is looking, is what we line up with, leaving everything else skewed. I also love that it's not actually a spotlight: You can see in the stage view wide shot that it's a hole he has torn in the ceiling, with the actual chandelier and lighting set up crashed into the floor over on the bottom right.
@strahinjaspasic9865
@strahinjaspasic9865 6 жыл бұрын
I know that the cinematic is good but why doesn't Sion have a team
@megamage911
@megamage911 6 жыл бұрын
Cuz he's fucking Sion.
@ishtiaquerahman1220
@ishtiaquerahman1220 6 жыл бұрын
The battle with Sion in it was a silver 4 game.
@TBSkyen
@TBSkyen 6 жыл бұрын
He ulted into the teamfight without anyone following him. The rest of the team is half a mile away and cussing him out in team chat
@erickfw197
@erickfw197 6 жыл бұрын
isn't a whole army + a sion already overkill to kill farmers? this cinematic is based on the lore, and so i think it would be absurd for Noxus to send more "champions"
@MYSOULOFDOOM
@MYSOULOFDOOM 6 жыл бұрын
Because Sion is the 5 man team
@kool-aidman7454
@kool-aidman7454 4 жыл бұрын
41:03 this is literally "You might've won the battle, but I've won the war." kind of moment. I fucking love it.
@procrastinasian
@procrastinasian 6 жыл бұрын
he really blessed us with that hour long video
@leachimgod13
@leachimgod13 3 жыл бұрын
Ngl, the final Jhin and Camille shot was my screen saver for a good three years
@Master00Ra
@Master00Ra 6 жыл бұрын
Riven is someone we must to protect.
@lilyomp4598
@lilyomp4598 6 жыл бұрын
I love how Riven bites her top lip when she goes to grab the gladiator’s head and smash it into the wood
@saitogaika838
@saitogaika838 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video ! very informative! As an amateur artist it to me fascinating to see people talking about the theory behind an art piece. the concepts you talk about are not completely foreign but the terminology is totally new to me. I wish there was a place were I would learn the proper terminology for most of the basic concepts so i could google search my way toward greater knowledge.
@UnbeatableLogic
@UnbeatableLogic 6 жыл бұрын
@tbskyen rivens fighting style is an style where you setup the edges of your reach as the boundaries you fight in which allows you to navigate close combat without overextending herself. As you see she never stretches outward always bending and remaining in her range.
@FrogInShiningArmour
@FrogInShiningArmour 6 жыл бұрын
I like the cut from when Camille first takes off, to Akali jumping up on Sion and hitting him in the face with smoke bombs.
@seanabner2759
@seanabner2759 6 жыл бұрын
"NO! THIS IS AN ANIME NOW!" XD There was a shift there, I'm a fan of it.
@themusicstash2696
@themusicstash2696 6 жыл бұрын
Camille is giving the gays everything we want
@abobebsi
@abobebsi 6 жыл бұрын
How
@nathancraig4710
@nathancraig4710 6 жыл бұрын
wait what
@maxcmilan
@maxcmilan 6 жыл бұрын
Thought i was the only one. Lmao
@axelpetersson5787
@axelpetersson5787 6 жыл бұрын
The Music Stash mind elaborating?
@thefearlessone2649
@thefearlessone2649 6 жыл бұрын
Yes
@jeremyruiz3998
@jeremyruiz3998 5 жыл бұрын
"As Camille descends on Jhin... this is a glory shot" me lowkey having that as my laptop screen before looking at this video
@lagartoloco94
@lagartoloco94 6 жыл бұрын
That’s the magic of league of legends. Taking the days when you were 5 and would dump the contents of your toy box into the living room for nonsense adventures and somehow making it into a cohesive, sensate and amazing universe 🖤
@theresagalvosXD
@theresagalvosXD 6 жыл бұрын
can we also talk about how the people at riot love the violin part in jhin's theme so much, that even after using jhin's main theme as a base for vayne, vi, and his project skin theme, they inserted it AGAIN in this cinematic. and i fcking love it
@AlexisDagger23
@AlexisDagger23 6 жыл бұрын
Ive been waiting for this since I first saw the video
@abdullahnaim10
@abdullahnaim10 6 жыл бұрын
This analysis just showed me things i never even noticed myself and never would have seen it as deep as this. AMAZING analysis! Learned a lot and make me appreciate it even more. Thank you!
@shent1059
@shent1059 6 жыл бұрын
What really grinds my gears are the odd, unnecessary pauses in action in the Ionia segments - first Akali just.. stops for a moment on Sion's arm like it's normal instead of running up, stabbing, and bouncing off in one fluid motion and then - the more pronounced example - Kennen, after finishing his lightning run trough the noxian troops just pauses for a second, lifts his hand up and gather lightning and lowers in in a werid, semi-fluid motion. To me, this seems like they wanted to have him be fast and fluid and have a dramatic pause where he holds the charged ball for a second before the explosion, bud couldn't quite decide which way to go and ended up with this both too short and not long enough break in the action, halting of pace that really brings down the scene.
@ljmax8693
@ljmax8693 6 жыл бұрын
I think those pauses where great. The whole action is going fast and making this pauses gives the watcher time to realise what is actually happening.
@axelpetersson5787
@axelpetersson5787 6 жыл бұрын
Shent I agree with above reply. The kennen one was not only necessary to show off kennen, but also gave more impact to the ult. (IMO) the Akali one was her deploying the smoke bomb. That scene was a tad off-taste for me as well tho, it would’ve flowed better if she jumped up, dropped the bomb, then sliced sions face followed by a jump to behind him. It would’ve carried her momentum much more smoothly than jumping back the way she came from imo
@ZacharyArneson
@ZacharyArneson 6 жыл бұрын
"I think I've said all I need to say about this animated short" *video has 16 minutes left* !!! TB Skyen icon of lemgthy videos
@Fellefan
@Fellefan 6 жыл бұрын
I seriously love you going into detail about these, you point out things I never would had thought about! I totally wouldn't mind another hour, or two haha.
@NaYeongB
@NaYeongB 5 жыл бұрын
Best commentary on awaken I’ve seen so far, I’ve just watched almost an hour long video and I’d have watched even more, great work!
@HowardAltEisen
@HowardAltEisen 6 жыл бұрын
So... What you're saying is that even in Riot's cinematics, Yasuo is still off playing his own game? Sasuga Yasuo mains
@stevesprod
@stevesprod 6 жыл бұрын
Dude, i just wanna thank you for this hell of a lesson, when i watched the animation i felt overwhelmed with emotions of joy, and now watching you just dissecting the beauty of this 3 minute long ride in a full hour, just completes the experience like a cherry on top of a cake.
@Yasser-op3nf
@Yasser-op3nf 6 жыл бұрын
About the Irelia animation, I'm thinking maybe it was intentional to make her movements look more "rigid". I mean if you think about it she's basically committing a mass-suicide, she's sending farmers and civil with no experience in fighting against one of - if not THE best army in Runeterra, so it's safe to say that she's not feeling confident, and her anxiety/fear is what making her body tighten up. In game after she dies she says "My form was off...", so this is basically what is happening, her form is off, and the "stiff" movements were intentional. That's just my opinion, I would like to hear what do you think about it.
@finfen9730
@finfen9730 6 жыл бұрын
I subscribed to you because of that Yasuo pun. Also, you're attention to detail was impressive. You're the ONLY content maker I've seen so far that mentioned Draven spinning the knife! I was getting so flustered that no one was appreciating it. I felt like a strung out nerd. Good stuff my man.
@idranksomuchjuice4061
@idranksomuchjuice4061 6 жыл бұрын
I agree the irelia animations were so stiff... ugh. Reminded me of the fighting scenes from avatar the last airbender, just lifeless and not dynamic. Edit: meant the live adaptation of avatar the last airbender
@danyelalvarez8024
@danyelalvarez8024 3 жыл бұрын
“Jhin is a dramatic asshole” .... omg that can’t be simpler and more correct hahaha, totally right
@mikitanas
@mikitanas 6 жыл бұрын
irelia looks like boxbox im going to die
@TheRhetoricGamer
@TheRhetoricGamer 6 жыл бұрын
9:30 The camera movement and positions also convey a viewpoint that we're trying to hide from Jhin while watching him. This suggests he might be someone strange or dangerous enough that we don't want him to know we're watching him despite the fact he clearly wants to be seen.
@KagamineNachy
@KagamineNachy 6 жыл бұрын
personally I didn’t blame Irelia’s uncanny valley face on the size of her eyes, Riven has big eyes too and she doesn’t look as strange. To me, it was their color/brightness. It seemed like she was wearing some really saturated blue contacts she got who knows where. I think maybe if they’d made the color a bit darker it wouldn’t have stood out so much against her pale face and dark hair. Or ethnic features, but this is a fantasy world, so that’s just me.
@zayaweight9579
@zayaweight9579 6 жыл бұрын
I like the long videos personally. I like your voice & the way you explain things. I often listen to your videos wile I'm drawing or playing games. I don't even play league but I watch your content regularly because I like what you have to say & how you say it. Keep it up dude! You're pretty cool!
@darkyte5323
@darkyte5323 6 жыл бұрын
Draven has a knife fidget toy ;p
@tristanvillaflor2565
@tristanvillaflor2565 6 жыл бұрын
I love how your personality shines when making these points.
@KneeCaps
@KneeCaps 6 жыл бұрын
Why does riven look like the girl from the alita movie trailer? The proportions are so strange. Realistic but still cartoony, everyone else looks so realistic and proportionate.
@KneeCaps
@KneeCaps 6 жыл бұрын
oh wait I just got to 15:27 the reference was already used on irelia. I guess I'm unoriginal now :(
@chrom0xide123
@chrom0xide123 6 жыл бұрын
Compared to the hollywood-Alita, I thinks they still got an "acceptable" eye-size. I just watched the Alita trailer but it seemed the eyes sometimes where just bigger and sometimes smaller
@Vektorien545
@Vektorien545 6 жыл бұрын
@@KneeCaps That's the internet for ya. And i'm pretty sure this comment isn't original either.
@ReiHino555
@ReiHino555 6 жыл бұрын
I really don't know why but her face looks reaaaally off...
@fasterthanyouthink9723
@fasterthanyouthink9723 6 жыл бұрын
I thought the same when I saw her
@ZayliusVT
@ZayliusVT 6 жыл бұрын
I never realized how ridiculously hilarious the "Swat Team" part of the video was until you pointed it out. It is funny how technologically(?) advanced(?) Piltover is, but I love it all the more for it because you get steampunk swat teams out of it. xD Anyway love your videos TB. Always love learning nuances and character design/film-making stuff with you.
@flamingjockeys
@flamingjockeys 6 жыл бұрын
I really like this animation, but the way they did Riven is kinda offputting to me. She's got a really realistic looking face, but also massive almost anime-sized eyes. I feel like no one else in the animation has eyes the same size as hers. But honestly who cares because the Jhin vs Camille segment was the coolest fucking thing. Imma go play Jhin and end up feeding right now.
@shent1059
@shent1059 6 жыл бұрын
Also, aside from the moneyshot at like 2:09 of the oficial vid Riven's make-up looks really, really, *REALLY* stupid
@LycanDreams9159
@LycanDreams9159 6 жыл бұрын
Riven ? Do you mean irelia?
@saints_villains
@saints_villains 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I did. Expected to be a kda god after seeing that fight but I ended feeding my ass off to a damn Brand-Jinx lane :( Sad.
@MurIocMage
@MurIocMage 6 жыл бұрын
No one Can handle playing jhin with off sound
@Shiroiki43
@Shiroiki43 6 жыл бұрын
​@@shent1059 what? that makeup isn't for looks, those are for reducing the sun's glare on the arena in a battle type setting
@takabekkali3408
@takabekkali3408 6 жыл бұрын
u ar a mad man each second u speak in u keep on amazing me with howdetailed u see things no matter how simple it is u find depth in it
@Kevinpeteronline
@Kevinpeteronline 6 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda surprised how almost universally great your opinion on the cimematic is. While it certainly is really well done in many aspects, some of the animations really felt off to me. They didn't really communicate any weight imo. From as far as I can tell mostly because they are too smoothed out. One of the more extreme examples is when Sion hits Irelia with his axe. The camera drifts away from Irelia, but it's blended very smoothly into the previous axe tracking shot and even starts before the impact and therefore feels disconnected to what's happening on the screen. Or when Akali jumps onto Sion and slashes him. There's no impact, the camera just sorta stops and she jumps off again that's it. I'm not saying the cinematic is bad by any means, I just wanted to point it out since to me the occasional drop in animation quality was really offputting and with all the praise it's receiving I'm starting to feel a little like I'm the only one feeling this way
@jankozak2984
@jankozak2984 6 жыл бұрын
Some of it is probably because it’s PG (at least it feels like it) and so they can’t really show blood or wounds
@bjarkebt
@bjarkebt 6 жыл бұрын
Definitely not the only one feeling that. Some of the movement and fight scenes feels, "meh"
@mybossismybaby728
@mybossismybaby728 6 жыл бұрын
In general I thought Irelias bit was super tame. Definitely agree. However when Draven catches his axes in the Riven fight you can tell there is a lot of weight. Also when Riven head butts Draven you can see the power super clear. But yeah I agree it felt off at times.
@sweginator1084
@sweginator1084 6 жыл бұрын
This is because of the rating, I'm sure the animators have the ability to show off the fight better but I guess they were careful not to show too much violence.
@mangosdangoes6144
@mangosdangoes6144 6 жыл бұрын
Ján Kozák You dont have to have gore to make a good fight scene. Just look at Jackie chan's films. Oh yeah, 'A New Dawn' had blood in it, just wanna point that out.
@walkingchopsticks6731
@walkingchopsticks6731 6 жыл бұрын
i got goosebumps when Camille walked in. That posh as walk tho
@bxela9691
@bxela9691 6 жыл бұрын
i think that war of Ionia in this cinematic was way after the first war... and i like the fact that everyone from Ionia forgave Yasuo and he's fighting with em , Akali even toh she left the Kinkou, she's still fighting with all to defend her land with Kennen too, like he has been sent by Shen to protect her :D
@Official_Proxy
@Official_Proxy 6 жыл бұрын
Incorrect. These events are told to be in the future, as confirmed by one of the rioters. It also would make no sense to be the first Ionian war, just for the sole fact that Sion has not been an awakened undead juggernaut back then.
@davidshadow1019
@davidshadow1019 6 жыл бұрын
Omg I missed those animation breakdowns SO MUCH, I just couldn't feel the time going while watching it, I'm glad I could watch it all, just LOVED IT ♡
@MrDasbinich123
@MrDasbinich123 6 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of things about the movement that other people already mentioned, and I'll add to that the fight scenes of riven. It looks like they wanted to give her attacks a aense of weight by giving them aome anticipation here and there, but at the same time she just throws one of the gladiators like he's made of paper. Those inconsistencies keep popping up throughout the whole cinematic trailer.
@andrewf2453
@andrewf2453 Жыл бұрын
One thing I noticed about Dravens spinning once you alluded to it is a bit of mini-setup when he rams his dagger into his seat right before jumping in. Not only is that a sudden motion we're used to seeing before action, its also a cessation of the Spin, which sort of primes us to expect something else to start spinning, which it does when he throws rivens sword, and shortly after when he's fighting
@danial121212
@danial121212 6 жыл бұрын
almost 1 hour and not talking about how sion looks now i am sad
@doomdoot6731
@doomdoot6731 6 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate how much love Riot is giving my tanky juggernaut bois in their cinematics.
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