Super super super super underrated, same as his 3rd Piano Concerto, soooo soo sooo underrated
@marckaram1233 жыл бұрын
Superbly written. But can you compare the musical value of the first to this one??? Then no both are very well rated. But Tchaikovsky himself is underrated then.
@FreakieFan3 жыл бұрын
@@marckaram123 I think this one is much better than the first concerto. The First is rightfully iconic, but it's not nearly as consistently captivating as this one IMO. And the second movement in this concerto is one of Tchaikovsky's most remarkable pieces.
@marckaram1233 жыл бұрын
@@FreakieFan there's a difference between understanding a piece and being captivated by it and that's the case of the first piano concerto. When you understand the piece, mostly of all the theme that doesn't repeat, you become elevated cognitively as a person, but the captivating factor is still there the because it's a human thing. Isn't it the same idea with many others? Take Verdi's La forza del destino overture. You'd say what beautiful music. But talking about it in a philosophical way doesn't mean it's not captivating for the ears. Now this concerto I find is more à la française kind of music. I like to compare it to other pieces like Bach overture à la française for clavicembalo. Kind of the same repetition patterns. This sounds more like a joke lololzzz
@ritabustamante84472 жыл бұрын
@@marckaram123 The only reason the second concert is underrated is because is extremely hard to play and you need to be extremely talented to play it. If one wanted to make a comparison between the first and the second concert, the only thing than can be added to the second is that even the best pianists cannot play it.
@FreakieFan2 жыл бұрын
The 2nd movement is a masterpiece. Amongst the top 10 greatest Tchaikovsky pieces as far as I'm concerned.
@musicalperson173 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad someone finally made a score video for this piece, shamefully underperformed if you ask me. The first movement is so cinematic and expansive, the second movement needs no description, and the finale is almost a rock concert!
@fabianfrankenstein72942 жыл бұрын
1st movement 0:07 [orchestral introduction] 1:04 [interplay between piano and orchestra] / 1:28 [piano solo I] 2:14 [theme 2] 4:21 [agitated and urgent] 5:37 [theme 3] 6:55 8:29 8:58 [quasi cadenza] 10:30 [piano solo III] 11:50 [cadenza] 2nd movement 19:54
@jeanparke93734 жыл бұрын
15:39 This is like tears. Tears of joy!
@mr-wx3lv4 жыл бұрын
I agree with another comment here, that Tschaikovsky PC2 is way more interesting than the 1st. I'm not a great advocate of pieces of music being cut, to make it more convenient for the audience to listen to. I love that second movement. And the most complete version of it should be played IMO. Btw this is certainly a brisk rendition of the work (compared to my recording). Thanks for uploading...
@McGenji6 ай бұрын
*Часть I* Сонатная форма Главная партия - 0:06 Побочная партия - 2:12 Заключительная партия - 4:20 Разработка - 5:37 Реприза, Главная партия - 15:38 Реприза, Побочная партия - 16:22 Реприза, Заключительная партия - 17:36 Кода - 18:53 *Часть II* Сложная трехчастная форма Первая часть А - 19:54 Разработка - 26:13 Реприза А - 28:50 Кода - 32:32 *Часть III* Свободная форма АВСAB1C1К Часть А - 34:21 Часть В - 35:11 Часть С - 35:48 Реприза А(1) - 37:19 Реприза В1 - 38:26 Реприза С1 - 39:01 Кода - 40:16
@plumayray26565 ай бұрын
Спасибо огромное!!! Очень спасают такие анализы
@kmk82843 жыл бұрын
The first movement is pure bliss. I love it
@rikuheroes974 жыл бұрын
I think this second movement is one of the most interesting part in other piano concertos.
@PM_ME_MESSIAEN_PICS Жыл бұрын
the second movement is my favorite piano trio
@joshuaslater78582 жыл бұрын
so so much better than the first in my opinion. captivates me so much more… unlike the first where the first few bars have my complete interest then i lose interest quickly. not saying it’s poor by any means… it’s genius and i’m sure it will be even more astonishing if i were to study it in detail. but this seems so much more fulfilling to me. Although i guess why this is performed less than the first is because it’s less accessible and the first is better known.
@II-jq2rd8 ай бұрын
Agree
@elmiramuradova561Ай бұрын
And what about the third concert?
@jagp1353 жыл бұрын
26:56 such a beautiful moment
@kerencanelo85803 жыл бұрын
So Tchaikovskian... So i love it so
@thesilvershining3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. It’s haunting ♥️
@ytyt39224 жыл бұрын
There are some diabolically difficult passages in this work (that prestissimo section in the first movement...jeezus). Not hard to see why pianists shy away from this. It requires a super-virtuoso like Pletnev.
@ritabustamante84472 жыл бұрын
You are in the key of the problem. The second concert is only for extremely talented pianist like Igor Zhukov ( to me the best second Tchaikovsky concert )
@steveegallo338411 ай бұрын
@@ritabustamante8447 -- Yes.....Zhukov AND Pletnev RUUUUUUUULE for the Second Concerto.....BRAVO from Mexico City!
@rednax99 Жыл бұрын
I just saw this yesterday as a accompaniment to Dvorak's new world symphony in concert. It was awesome
@ChrisBreemer Жыл бұрын
Wow, somebody played this in a concert ? That does not happen too often. Who was the pianist ?
@rednax99 Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisBreemer Alexandre Kantorow
@ytyt39224 жыл бұрын
Under-appreciated concerto. I prefer it over the 1st. I never really warmed to the 1st concerto. The opening chords are fantastic, but the rest of it is just ok. But as far as Tchaikovsky concerti go, the violin concerto is the real masterpiece.
@bartjebartmans4 жыл бұрын
But the first is fun to play, not for nothing a favorite for pianists, much more accessible and technically not as demanding.
@ytyt39224 жыл бұрын
Bartje Bartmans very true. This concerto is more for super virtuosos like Pletnev or Hamelin.
@NFStopsnuf4 жыл бұрын
I agree, his second is a real concerto, both in form and in musicality. My main gripe with the first is the disappearance of the opening theme of the first movement. It's never expanded on whatsoever throughout the whole concerto. Other critics have expressed this same opinion, which is unfortunate. Obviously it's still a good piece in the literature, but it's perceived worth is far too great.
@thesilvershining3 жыл бұрын
I believe the 2nd piano concerto is superior in some ways, that 2nd movement is definitely a masterpiece on its own. Overall though, I just can’t help but love the 1st concerto with my entire being. Tchaikovsky’s heart is on his sleeve for a lot of his music and it’s just so life-affirming, beautiful, and human. And yes, I do understand the criticisms, but from beginning to end the 1st just makes me unexplainably happy. That said, Tchaikovsky’s violin concerto is my favorite piece of music ever written. Bury me with a copy of the score so it’s with me for eternity!
@ritabustamante84472 жыл бұрын
@@bartjebartmans Agree with you. Only extremely talented pianists can play the second concert. That’s why is underrated.
@nimrodshefer36494 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for uploading this!
@yp34244 жыл бұрын
Bravi, for posting this masterpiece! Apart from the big 1st part & its long cadenzas, this concerto has another peculiarity: its 2nd part,"andante non troppo" is a brilliant lyric dialogue between the piano,concertino violin, the principal cello & the orchestra. Although the composer had strictly prohibited not to cut even a single note, posthumously,(1897), his pupil & soloist Alex. Siloti had arranged a shorter,less demanding version, considering that, the 2nd p.c would be more "attractive". The editor was Jurgenson. The most charming is that this part is a little "conundrum": it was based on the famous tune of Bach/Gounod's "Ave Maria". The 3rd part, allegro con fuoco, is a pure "joie de vivre".
@manueljoseblancamolinos858211 ай бұрын
Incluso en este video hay un pequeño corte al final del segundo movimiento (la sección de acordes repetidos alternando entre la cuerda y los instrumentos de viento). Curiosamente estos compases aparecen en la partitura en el video pero no aparecen en el audio. El corte en la versión de Siloti es mucho más grande aunque incluye también el pequeño corte que aparece en la interpretación del video.
@yp342411 ай бұрын
@@manueljoseblancamolinos8582 ¡De verdad 100%!
@joseapontecana60538 ай бұрын
Hermosísimo. Maravilloso, que variedad y riqueza melódica.
@robertcohn88583 жыл бұрын
Bravo is too insignificant a word for this magnificent performance by Mr. Pletnev and PHO. Wow!
@jamiesantiago23474 жыл бұрын
I love Tchaikovsky music.. also the piano concerto.. I always listening it. So beautiful and relaxing..
@Dylonely42 Жыл бұрын
It’s an underrated concerto, I would say as good as the first piano concerto because of the sublime second movement.
@maniak17683 жыл бұрын
Stunnningly beautiful concerto. I'm wondering though if it is just a funny coincidence that both Brahms and Tchaikowsky wrote their second piano concertos around the same time and both included extensive use of string soloists in the slow movements.
@jean-jacquessimon67038 ай бұрын
Comment expliquer que ce magnifique concerto, subtil, éblouissant et profond ait été si négligé ? Je suppose qu'on n'a jamais poussé la curiosité après le choc du premier qui demeure l'un des plus estimés.
@Dekko-chan3 жыл бұрын
I love this one The first 17 minutes are glorious
@YhonyAlbertoAranibarCastro4 жыл бұрын
Aún no logro entender por qué esta obra no es tan conocida. ¡Es magnífica!
@daph03074 жыл бұрын
Estaba pensando que probablemente debido a la muerte de Rubinstein. Si hubiera vivido para interpretar esto, quizá fuera más conocido.
@ritabustamante84472 жыл бұрын
Este concierto es menos conocido porque aun siendo un magnifico pianista no todos se atreven a tocarlo. Es extremadamente difícil y le tienen miedo. El primer movimiento te deja sin aliento.Me extraña Martha Argerich no lo toque, y tampoco Zimmerman. No porque no lo puedan tocar ampliamente pero no lo tienen en sus repertorios.Solo lo he escuchado dignamente tocado por Pletnev y por obviamente el mejor de todos sin duda alguna Igor Zhukov.
@thestratford512 жыл бұрын
Mikhail Pletnev, piano and the Philharmonia Orchestra conducted by Vladimir Fedoseyev (1991)
@joellepodwysocki95582 жыл бұрын
Sublime!!💝 Quel dommage que je ne sache pas lire une partition.
@kassaipiano8 ай бұрын
This is a wonderful work, brillantly played. It is more difficult than any Rachmaninov concerto - therefore it remains a rarity in the concert halls.
@aramkhachaturian80434 жыл бұрын
very triumphant in the beginning
@nicosuarez69624 жыл бұрын
14:06 Rachmaninoff Essence... 🤣
@sultansnark55222 жыл бұрын
It's always been a mystery to me why Van Cliburn apparently never even made an attempt at this gem. Maybe he was satisfied being the "owner" of the 1st for his entire career, but one can't help wonder what he might have done with the 2nd, especially with Kondrashin wielding the baton again. ( made it MUCH more popular than it is, that's for certain )
@farazhaiderpiano Жыл бұрын
Van Cliburn mostly just played standard repertoire! The MAIN exception would be Edward MacDowell’s second piano concerto, which he learnt at a young age. There is actually a recording of Cliburn playing that concerto two years after the Tchaikovsky Competition, with Chicago Symphony and Walter Hendl conducting. It was a legendary recording for two reasons - One, the musical rhetoric of MacDowell perfectly suited Cliburn - and Two, he revived the work and kept it in the repertoire for 55 extra years. (André Watts and Earl Wild recorded it shortly after Cliburn’s 1960 recording.) As for the Tchaikovsky second piano concerto, its very possible he would’ve learnt it, if he had a closer relationship w/ the work. The reason he had a relationship with MacDowell’s work was because his mother used to play it.
@sultansnark5522 Жыл бұрын
@@farazhaiderpiano Thank you for that thoughtful analysis. One can't help but wish he'd given it his attention and made it iconic along with the 1st.
@stevefoley40734 жыл бұрын
Fantastic performance by Pletnev. And I agree - should be played unabridged.
@fulviopolce97854 жыл бұрын
Capolavoro concertistico paragonabile al primo,se non superiore ,soprattutto il grandioso e memorabile primo movimento. Peccato per le interferenze di Soliti che lo hanno un po' condizionato .Questa registrazione con Pletnev è ineccepibile , però personalmente preferisco la versione originale, senza alcun taglio. Una registrazione con Donhoe propone questa versione.
@snowcarriagechengcheng-hun34544 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading!
@slateflash4 жыл бұрын
The best of the three
@kerencanelo85803 жыл бұрын
I think i m agree
@PieInTheSky92 жыл бұрын
13:40 gave me chills
@op-th1yx2 жыл бұрын
8:32 sounds much like the opening to the 2nd movement of Schumanns fantasie in c major
@djsuia12654 жыл бұрын
8:32 best part
@kerencanelo85803 жыл бұрын
Cool but not best... It is impossible for me to pick one or two best parts of this perfect piece
@ritabustamante84472 жыл бұрын
@@kerencanelo8580 I cannot say which part is better. I love it from de begging to the end.
This is not the original version 😢. The original version is 50 minutes at least .😮
@SCRIABINIST Жыл бұрын
Cadenza is kinda like Rach 3, maybe Rach was influenced?
@Dylonely42 Жыл бұрын
Rachmaninoff has obviously been inspired by Tchaikovsky.
@slateflash4 жыл бұрын
He plays the urtext version here but he plays the Siloti version in his live performance. I'm not sure which one is harder though
@ssb2012 жыл бұрын
I was lucky to attend a live performance of this concerto yesterday and the second movement is just amazing. Thank you for uploading this. Can I have a copy of the sheet music you used for this by any chance?
@bartjebartmans2 жыл бұрын
You can find all sheet music on IMSLP.
@ssb2012 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'll look into it.
@kofiLjunggren2 жыл бұрын
Rach 3 inspiration
@theflipeechestthefunbob535 Жыл бұрын
8:27 the octaves
@calebhu638310 ай бұрын
5:28
@nilskroehl5 ай бұрын
New video???
@elmiramuradova561Ай бұрын
Pletnev❤ Bravo
@AIPlaying2 жыл бұрын
1:52 Rachmaninoff vibes
@Mennito.31 Жыл бұрын
May I ask who is performing here?
@bartjebartmans Жыл бұрын
Click on the tab "show more" and you will see the info.
@vaslav4171 Жыл бұрын
Cositas que den sueño.
@musik3504 жыл бұрын
I prefer cpc
@dacoconutnut95034 жыл бұрын
What is cpc
@jeanparke93734 жыл бұрын
@@dacoconutnut9503 Chopin Piano Concertos
@kingdartz74053 жыл бұрын
@@dacoconutnut9503 I prefer ppc
@MrInterestingthings4 жыл бұрын
The second concerto's finale is not without interest but this 1st movement is forgettable . I can't believe shura Cherkassky and now even Yuja Wang whose memories defies description has bothered with this . It wont become a staple. Milhaud or Bolocolm or Roger Sessions or the doavens if not hundreds of concerti written since . The 3rd minute is better than the opening then the bravura 4th minute just gets cheap and unimaginative again . Was this a commision ? Why did he bother even piublishing it .Arensky so many otheres did this better .Skryabin 's concerto is pretty awful . Richter took time and he more than once played the Dvorak ?