Smash But Attacks Do Canon Damage

[@TCNick3]

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[@sussyimposterfromamogus]

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[@amoongus6930]

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[@fangzgaming5510]

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[@ethernasia]

I'm not normally one for Turn-based combat games, there's only a few fire emblem games that I've actually enjoyed. But Star Rail has been so much fun for me since the very start. I highly recommend it

[@Prideium9001]

Oh god, i just imagined Sepiroth’s final attack absolutely destroying everyone, but mario reflects it with a cape while luigi tanks

[@kdlsimondistefan47]

The only problem is that iirc it does 90% of current HP or something like that

[@LoyaLPikmin]

HAVE YOU SEEN MARIO AND LUIGI RPG’S STATS AT LEVEL 50?!?!?!?!

[@kdlsimondistefan47]

@@LoyaLPikmin i'm just saying that it doesn't kill either way

[@adrianschaeuffler7513]

​@@LoyaLPikmin i'm pretty sure stats don't matter, sephiroth's supernova never kills no matter how low or high your level is, but it does deal 90% damage and inflicts ailments no mattet what you do

[@letsplaytodayusa]

Supernova is actually just a terrible attack that I hate; it's so long, so drawn out, takes forever...and never kills, it literally does a percentage of the HP remaining.

[@aquarios7851]

The fun thing about the way Pokémon damage is dealt, is there are min roll and max rolls for how much damage an attack can do. So one turn a move can deal 20% HP, and next move can deal 25%, not to mention crits

[@blazekicknchicken]

Video released: 4 minutes ago Comment : 1 day ago *Visible Confusion*

[@salamder1270]

Yeah my brain is wondering of how this happened too

[@terminawarfrance6104]

me too

[@SRInfern0]

@@salamder1270 early releases for patreon supporters

[@connormcnulty6377]

Oh just wait until the Fire Emblem crits get added. 12% chance for 3x the damage.

[@clioneclione1897]

fun fact, a lot of kirby's moves actually have canonical damage numbers. In Return to Dreamland, there's a boss called Metal General who displays how much damage they take when they get hit. The damage shown is multiplied by ten and assigned a random number for the final digit (ie. an attack that does 40 damage, such as Kirby's down B, would show as dealing anywhere from 401 to 409 damage.) His up B does 50 damage across 3 hits. (7, 8 and 35) Even some of his normals have canonical damage, like his dash attack (20), up throw (50!) and rapid jab. (4 per hit)

[@ultlifeform]

This can also be seen in Kirby Super Star, with the RPG boss.

[@AzumarillConGafasBv]

@@ultlifeform Computer Virus displays weak numbers compared to Metal General

[@ultlifeform]

@@AzumarillConGafasBv that maybe true, but it’s still another source, which could be useful for moves taken from copy abilities that aren’t in Return to Dreamland, but are in Super Star, like forward throw and down throw (Suplex), and his trip recovery attack (Yo-yo). Plus, it’s just another example to refute the video’s claim that their are no canon numerical values for Kirby.

[@burtieeee9827]

I read that as 50 factorial

[@Coolmar15]

It's the same thing for the Security Force midboss in Planet Robobot (cause they're based on Metal General), so useful for abilities that are in PR but not in RtD.

[@neondouble_]

Mythra's Lightning Buster? I NEED to see that canonically. In post game each hit does a consistent 150,000 against normal enemies

[@namelessusername4267]

I was actually waiting for the Shulk vs Aegis match

[@marigoldzephyrnio3647]

ray of punishment and chroma dust on their way to one shot

[@Gamer-g2v1r]

They put them at lvl 50 tho

[@BiscuitisCool]

I’m a pokemon guy you guys speak gibberish to me.

[@anthonynguyen1289]

Thing is they would do it based on an unmodified Mythra meaning no aux cores or chips. As well as probably no investment in the skill trees. This will be a very unoptimal Mythra at level 50. Should still do enough damage to ko consistently in Smash on the first or second hit, but I’m not sure how strong it is since I’ve never seen how damage is calculated in Xenoblade 2. Also I don’t know if Mythra deals a different amount of damage between Rex using her and Mythra being playable in Torna.

[@cheese_vviz]

Fun fact: Since every move in MegaMan's moveset is named and was in a past game, he would have been the perfect character for this mod. But. He's MegaMan.

[@Movin2DBiit]

In what few Collections or Manuals that DO talk about his Damage or ATK, his stronger moves when shot by their respective Robomasters do, like. 5-7 damage on average, his stronger ones probably capping out at 14 if you're lucky.

[@ASNS117Zero]

Wild when you think about the fact that those lemons are actually balls of plasma flying faster than bullets from real guns. But, you know, game mechanics. lol

[@boa_firebrand]

@@ASNS117Zero aren't they described as compressed solar energy? which sounds like plasma but all the descriptions don't quite treat it as such.

[@LeoYoshi54321]

i mean, even assuming that every weapon is dealing their max damage, his most powerful move would be Metal Blade, dealing 28%. Every other move is doing like 3-6%

[@calebhoward6775]

What’s funny is that Kirby does have number values on his Smash moveset in Robobot. For example, up throw would’ve done 49% and stone 38%. Even changing back from stone would do 19%

[@icykuikinu300]

Yeah like, I think kirby only has like 5 or 6 moves that wouldn't get changed, and they're all his tilts, his dair, his dsmash and potentially his Bair Inhale - every kirby game Up b - Final Cutter (Cutter) from super star Side b - Hammer Flip (Hammer) from super star (though it'd probably function how it does in star allies and Forgotten Land) Down b - Stone from adventure Jab - Vulcan Jab and Smash Punch (Fighter) from super star Dash attack - Burning from adventure Fsmash - Spin Kick (Fighter) from super star USmash & Uair - Moon Somersault Kick (Fighter) from deturn to dreamland Fair - Spin Kick (Fighter) from return to dreamland Bair - *potentially* Double Kick (Fighter) from return to dreamland Up throw - Air Drop (Ninja) from super star Forward, Back, Down throws - Pile Driver, Big Suplex, Fury Stomp respectively (Suplex) from super star To my knowledge, his up, down, and side tilts, Down smash, and down air don't have clear references, I think

[@anthonyrogers2185]

Though isn’t that technically using copy abilities? So technically doesn’t count unless you suck someone?

[@bedoop3870]

there's also the Computer Virus boss fight in superstar/ultra so you could get the numbers for a lot of kirby's melee hits too since they're mostly derived from Fighter and Suplex (ontop of Fighter being in robobot too)

[@calebhoward6775]

@@bedoop3870 right Suplex hits like a truck. F-throw and B-throw does 70 damage. D-throw does 50 *per hit*

[@CurlyChop]

@@calebhoward6775 we have canon truck Kirby to also see how much damage "being hit by a truck" should do!

[@Fierce_Paladin]

Bro the editing on this video is so clean! Mad Respect to the editor.

[@Fierce_Paladin]

@Chikin nugit The editor's name is actually in the description, Its FadedShade!

[@wywy29092]

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[@nocontext400]

there is such a thing as OVER editing tho, not saying this video did that but it came close to it lol

[@indigo_sirgaming]

I was gonna say that too, I love the editing on this

[@ashleighnolle5753]

Yeah

[@SydwasheretheIII]

Why did Kirby only have 1 “canonical” move, when a ton of its moves are canonical? And you can absolutely tell what their power is in-game. I’m sure the health value of bosses in Kirby are known

[@axl256gamesx7]

Literally they made a smash form in some games, so kirby can have the smash moveset in some of his games Take the damage that that form deals on each attack and just copy paste it lol

[@sanstheskeelaton3337]

the special attacks are hard coded into the game so they couldn't be changed

[@mohawkmaster5728]

​@@axl256gamesx7Yeah, I don't see why they completely ignored his literal Smash ability when it has all the data for 70% of his attacks

[@Net_Roamer]

I am aware I'm 5 month late for this but here are the abilities that I'm sure should have been amplified or nerfed for kirby (yes I looked at the Kirby abilities) Dash attack- Burning ability Foward B- Hammer ability Down B- Rock ability (technically) Possibly but probably not: Down/Side A- kick (if crouched in some Kirby games, Kirby will do a slide kick). And for those who talked about the Smash ability in a Kirby game, yes there is one in Kirby and the land of mirrors (I know it has mirror in it or smtn) if you inhale master hand or two of the sleepy bois at the same time you get that smash ability and with that you get: Kirby basic attack, Up B, Air neutral, Hammer, and Down B (I think he dose have down B?)

[@VestedUTuber]

@@Net_Roamer You missed a couple. Jab - Fighter (Vulcan Jab) Forward Throw - Suplex (Rock Drop) Back Throw - Backdrop Up Throw - Ninja (Air Drop) Down Throw - Suplex (Fury Stomp), Beetle (Fury Stomp) Floor Attack (Trip) - Yoyo (Breakdance Spin) Final Smash - Should be obvious what this is.

[@squiddler7731]

14:57 was confused for a sec, but then I remembered how ARMs elemental damage worked. Each arm had an elemental effect accociated with it when charged, and the fire element ram ram came with was just extra damage and knockback. But Megawatt meanwhile had electric, which basically left you completely disabled and wide open to any follow-up attack the opponent chooses. So if you want it to have it's true canon power, just make it stun for 1.5 seconds instead of having knockback and there you go

[@claudevonrunningman]

Kirby actually does have huge numerical damage on his special moves in his games. You can only see it against one boss in Return to Dreamland, though

[@AzumarillConGafasBv]

In Planet Robobot and Super Star/Super Star Ultra you can see numerical damage too

[@N12015]

@@AzumarillConGafasBv And Luckily for everyone the damage output in Super Star and the 2.5D Kirby trilogy is mostly consistent, so no necessity of fancy mechanics, just paper, pencil and a boss who shows damage to the player.

[@plebulus]

How much is it?

[@PeDIRL]

metal general actually modifies the correct numerical damage, wikirby should have more info

[@GamingEelektross]

iirc Metal General takes the actual damage number, multiplies it by 10, then makes the last digit a random number.

[@SuperSobos]

Why does the editing go so insane in this video?!?! Editor did an amazing job!

[@amircooljac5053]

Fr

[@Priincipal-pe9mp]

The editing is actually godlike

[@silvergrim5298]

100%

[@squidkid6442]

I KNOW I was just about to comment that

[@hioman]

It says faded shade in the description

[@derachpitchal9000]

Fun fact: Shulk’s side smash and Cloud’s F-air, while not named in Smash, are noticeably similar to Slit Edge and Braver in their respective games

[@hubbleworks7872]

Fr that’s what I was gonna say, in this mod it should do like 1700-ish damage and also inflict some sort of poison effect bc it inflicts bleed in xc

[@itsmwambintime4254]

@@hubbleworks7872 Slit edge inflicts phys def down in xc1 and bleed in xc3 fr

[@toomayps214]

@@hubbleworks7872 you might be thinking of gale slash, which is used by Dunban

[@hubbleworks7872]

@@itsmwambintime4254 oh Fr I forgot my b

[@RotaAbyssian]

In terms of Cloud, they fused Climhazzard and Braver together. His up B is Climhazzard on the way up, and Braver on the way down.

[@calvinball8]

I think the reason psychic can grab from anywhere is because it has 100% accuracy

[@KaizerHuter]

I didn't see Shadow Ball auto-hitting anyone though...

[@yamatanooroshikirin4001]

@@KaizerHuter Yeah, I don't see why Psychic hits you from anywhere either when taking this into consideration. In Pokemon, "guaranteed to hit" and "100% accuracy" are two different things (100% accuracy means that the move can still miss if accuracy is debuffed or the target's evasion is boosted, and technically in gen 1 every 100% accuracy move had a 1/256 chance to miss because of spaghetti code)

[@Sylvainjose-satoyumiyato]

Mewtwo's neutral B "Shadow Ball" was introduced in Gen 2​@@yamatanooroshikirin4001

[@fiendfi7119]

17:10 inklings have 100 health in splatoon, which is close to what you'd expect in smash. however, most weapons are made to kill in one interaction so I expect most attacks to kill at 0. edit: yep

[@Megapig9001]

I realized immediately what Kirby's "one changed move" was and was just waiting to see it. Did not disappoint lmao

[@fangzgaming5510]

Same my guy and laughed when Poppt1 didn't know

[@kirimusse]

I'm disappointed in myself that I thought of Hammer first; I guess that's what True Arena grinding does to a person.

[@CurlyChop]

@@kirimusse I honestly thought that hammer was going to be busted too...

[@spgettiboi3370]

@@kirimusse i thought it was going to be slide for some reason

[@ThundagaT2]

@@CurlyChop Honestly it should have been crazy too considering charged Hammer Flip is one of the strongest moves in every Kirby game

[@gustypartizanne5123]

17:30 You know, when I saw Kirby, I thought he would have his damage up to how much damage he dealt to those like Computer Virus from Super Star or Metal General in Return to Dreamland sense that shows how much damage each does, not just inhale, feels like a missed opportunity

[@therealchaosguy]

Yea since his Smash moveset IS in Robobot/RTD

[@NewSoupWiiHii]

@@therealchaosguy its not in RTD...

[@therealchaosguy]

@@NewSoupWiiHii Do you not know what “/“ means? It’s and *or* that second thing, as in, it’s either in both or one

[@connorburris4846]

@@NewSoupWiiHii Man never found the Hal Rooms

[@FectoStyle4433]

in kirby clash it goes to the 100ks so it doesnt matter

[@braidonsaelens5174]

The editing here went CRAZY. Whoever did this should be proud af

[@dolphin-studio]

proud? bro how can you say this is good, when I can barely watch the match with all that zoom in ?

[@braidonsaelens5174]

@@dolphin-studio Damn that’s crazy watch someone else bozo

[@nguyen5762]

@@dolphin-studio Oh shut it

[@SchnookieC]

Jigglypuff with healing rest would be an interesting change for the character but honestly she deserves some actual fairy stuff

[@RazielSoulshadow]

I'm just saddened they never used Rollout

[@galewin8942]

@@RazielSoulshadow Imagine trying to land Rollout 5 times in a row, though

[@ultlifeform]

I don't know it's in any of the Smash tips or whatever in the game, but Shulk's forward smash is a clear reference to his Art "Slit Edge," and should be doing similarly insane damage. It's the exact same animation.

[@xmgaming2444]

I don't know how much of the mario & luigi RPG moves could've been translated, but it would've been funny if you did like 6 damage off of a footstool since the basic "jump on an enemy's head" is the default attack in those games

[@N12015]

Or made Mario's F-Smash the fire hand. Still don't have Idea how damage works in Mario& Luigi though despite having played 3 of those, only noticed that level affects way more than in Pokemon.

[@potatoe972]

Nah a footstool would do a solid 200

[@VestedUTuber]

It'd be difficult to actually work that out, as each Mario & Luigi game has completely different stat calculations - even the remakes. Those games had power creep issues.

[@xmgaming2444]

@@VestedUTuber Never even thought of that lol, I only played the earlier ones

[@WarrenValion]

Finishing Touch only does 3.125 damage to enemies that are immune to the instant death status that it inflicts. Cross Slash also inflicts paralysis, so it would've been cool to see that in the mod too.

[@anintendolover8416]

The editing as you showcase the certain moves like quick attack was so good!

[@claywilliams7579]

Actually, thunder jolt was not made up by Sakurai, but rather is a move in pokmon TCG, so you PROBABLY could've figured out its power and ran it through the damage calculator

[@evernewb2073]

nice "um, Actually" there.

[@phantomblue2798]

Wasn't it like a translation error or something like that?

[@Velvetfr0g]

Wait...DOES THIS MEAN LINK'S FINAL SMASH IS AN INSTA KILL?

[@danknados]

should be yes as ancient arrows 1 shot all enemies who aren't bosses, including link.

[@GodlyCito]

@@danknadosso browser, ganon, browser jr etc. will not die do ancient arrow? (Edit) calling bowser browser was intentional bc funny

[@danknados]

@GodlyCito considering how none of them are bosses in botw then it should one shot them too.

[@GodlyCito]

@@danknados true

[@danknados]

@GodlyCito also yes, calling bowser browser is funny XD

[@galaxyfam6471]

I’m actually really impressed with how good the editing is in this video. Give your editor a raise Nick.

[@blackquillx]

Facts

[@BowlOSoup6661]

Honestly I didn't like it that much. It just looks like all the other videos on KZbin

[@AngryBones69]

If Ness' PK flash did it's canon power, it would almost always instakill, and if it doesn't do that, it will stun.

[@RighteousBisonEnjoyer]

Nah rockin omega and paralyses would destroy

[@Goleafmealone]

He doesnt have rockin in smash

[@turtlefalcon5546]

@@GoleafmealoneHonestly, they should have given him rockin as one of his specials. Idk which one they would get rid of but it feels weird that he doesn’t have his signature attack

[@Goleafmealone]

@@turtlefalcon5546 well im pretty sure rockin is the airal specials but i dont think those count

[@definitelydoctorproctor]

if it was psi flash omega, it would have a 20% chance of one shotting. more likely, though, it would add an annoying side effect

[@TheFadedShade]

Been an absolute joy seeing this project come to life, thank you for the opportunity to work on it! ❤

[@Raddkann]

you are a god, this editing is crazy good

[@geoffreyrama]

Such a good video!!!

[@Agefonduge]

Nick's face when Poppt isn't realizing which Kirby's move is changed is awesome

[@raisylvaine8398]

11:38 I will argue that Shulk’s side smash is based on his Art Slit Edge, based purely on the animation. It’s not very powerful compared to Back or Air Slash but it reduces enemy defense.

[@Fenrisviivii04]

11:58 technically that should of only done 1 damage since in Xenoblade, Monado shield makes it so any signature move only does 1 damage to Shulk. Since Finishing touch is Cloud's signature move, that should of only done 1 damage to Shulk lmao

[@GeorgeDCowley]

Have.

[@christopherdangelo1292]

Tbh Kirby could have had this apply to all of his moves, since his series DOES have a spin off game where numbers can be sufficiently calculated

[@airam1721]

Which one?

[@christopherdangelo1292]

Kirby battle Royale, or super Kirby clash, depends on accuracy

[@N12015]

@@christopherdangelo1292 I'm sure there's 3 mini-Bosses who actually show damage. The Virus in Super star, a guard in Return to Dreamland and another guard in Planet Robobot, all using roughly the same damage formula.

[@Dman25]

I don't think it's named as such, but Shulk's side smash is also a move reference. It's slit edge, which funnily enough is one of his weakest arts, but it deals increased damage from the side and reduces enemy defense (which because enemies in xc1 don't have a defense stat actually just increases the damage your party does).

[@devonkeyt6457]

Editing has been getting progressively better in the past few months a lot faster than I expected. Kudos to the editor, they are about to get you a much larger audience. Man/woman deserves a pay raise!!

[@Da_FB]

17:24 as a splatoon mod guy, correction to be made, even through gameplay shows 100 damage, the files say 1000

[@ethanodell8044]

Can’t wait to see Steve only do 10% on his strongest attacks

[@ethanherzing652]

You actually missed one of Shulk’s canon moves. His forward smash is based on slit edge, an art that lowers defense if you hit the enemy on its side

[@WildFox-h1u]

And N-air’s animation is the same as Monado Purge

[@hyperstar7252]

you could also argue that down smash could be a variation of Stream Edge

[@starnight139]

Interesting... Never crossed my mind!

[@rtg_onefourtwoeightfiveseven]

@@hyperstar7252 I've always thought his dash attack looked more like Stream Edge. His ftilt also looks a lot like his auto-attack.

[@GeorgeDCowley]

That might not be applicable to Smash, though.

[@facundodenegri9846]

Fun fact mewtwo is at level 100 since his final smash uses psystrike which he use to learn at level 100 in x and y (the last pokemon game before smash 4)

[@driftin_soul1312]

I feel like applying that sort of logic gets a little wonky when you consider combinations like Pikachu having Skull Bash or Submission (legal moves on it in gen 1 only, which gets extra weird considering Pichu also has those moves in Smash despite debuting in gen 2) and also Volt Tackle (introduced in gen 3); Mewtwo hasn't ever had Tail Whip or Shadow Blast as a legal move; nor has Greninja ever had Rolling Kick, Triple Kick, or Slam I approve of Nick's setting a consistent level for all of the Pokemon (especially since L50 is the standard in official competitive play)

[@Dirakiaa]

As a Xenoblade Nerd, Shulk FSmash absolutely is Slit Edge

[@splgk6204]

I yhink he explained that it was the buster that made it no more powerful, since no characters are mekons, the buster monado art applies no changes

[@GumshoeClassic]

​@@splgk6204That wouldn't matter though. Slit Edge would still get its own ratios, and besides, Buster is kinda scuffed in this scenario anyways, because it works completely different in Xenoblade. It's not a buff, it's a big swing with the *bonus* effect of dealing extra damage against Mechon. That's why I'm still adamant it should've been Enchant instead, it's literally the first Monado Art you use and its entire purpose is being a damage buff. (Shield is also completely misrepresented, it should be Monado Armour)

[@splgk6204]

@@GumshoeClassic yeah I get what you mean. I believe that for the shield/armour situation, it might have to do with pronunciation (shield is nicer to the ear) and also, accessibility (it might be more intuitive for children) For buster, maybe they had another initial project and decided to only make it a buff in the end, though this is no excuse cause they had 8 years to check with the source material but oh well At least Shulk is in smash (In swimsuit :D )

[@GumshoeClassic]

@@splgk6204 I don't really think armor would be harder to get than shield to be honest, it's such a ubiquitous concept and word all throughout media. If anything, Shield is misleading since it doesn't act like a shield at all and has nothing to do with the in-game mechanic of the same name.

[@ninkstheultimate3376]

@@splgk6204 Monado Art Shield completely blocks an Art of the same level or less in Xenoblade, and theres not really a good way to quantify that in Smash. Armor would've been better, since it actually reduces damage in Xenoblade, all the way up to 95% damage reduction (i think, it might be 85%).

[@supergamer1388]

For the Pokemon, it would have been amazing if you were able to account for Final Smashes. I'd like to see the ridiculous damage done by Volt Tackle, Malicious Moonsault, and the combination of Hydro Pump, Solar Beam, and Fire Blast (Triple Finish).

[@gabewhite9193]

Hold on. Kirby uses his special moves in one of the games when he takes the power from master hand. He literally gets his full special moveset

[@charposting]

The editing in this video is crazy good! So clean and always moving!

[@andreasobermuller3044]

Shulk´s f-smash is based on the art „slit edge“ from Xenoblade, so it should have a damage change as well.

[@calvietunion3588]

The Attack info scenes did not need to go that hard. Really great back to back videos!

[@ZTimeGamingYT]

The editing on this video is actually amazing. Props to the editor for making visually appealing content and Nick for making humor!

[@ryancurtis5425]

I feel like Kirby could have been modded more because there's a way to gauge the damage. In Kirby Super Star's Great Cave Offensive, there's a boss called Computer Virus, which looks like an old RPG menu system. One of the features of the boss fight is a text box that says stuff that happens duting the fight. One of the things it says is how much damage Kirby deals to the boss.

[@xraenon1664]

Kinda surprised Pyra/Mythra, Joker, Hero, Terry, and quite a few others didn’t get anything, but you gotta leave something for a part 2 I guess

[@AnActuallyUsefulGoddess]

I was watching until 13:24 and as Ryu did Hadouken, i got a street fighter duel ad and Ryu finished the Hadouken in the ad lol. Not a bad transition

[@nerddwarf]

You do NOT use the pokémon's base stat in damage calculation You use the pokémon's actual, in-game stat At level 50, Pikachu's Base 50 Sp.Atk can be anywhere inbetween 49 and 112 At Level 50, Mewtwo's Base 154 Sp.Atk can be anywhere inbetween 143 and 226 (although, in a competitive setting, it's not going to be lower than 174, with a very high chance of it being 206)

[@silverrath]

Yeah I noticed that too, though that would also ideally apply to the defense stat calculations and I assume they didn't want to go through the trouble of putting EVs and IVs into consideration while also getting the average defense stats for each mon at level 50

[@xinf3ctdx]

Probably easier to use the base stat than picking a number between 49 and 112 and having someone like you get upset no matter which one they pick.

[@nerddwarf]

@xinf3ctdx Pretty simple to just pick 70 This would be a Pikachu with Perfect IV's, 0 EV's and a Neutral/Non-affecting Nature Or 81 (Perfect IV's, EV's perfectly split between every stat, Neutral Nature) Or 102 (Perfect IV's and EV's. Neutral Nature) Or 80(.5) (Halfway between 49 and 112) Or 49 (the worst possible Pikachu) Or 112 (the best possible Pikachu) Personally, I'd have gone with either 70, or 81

[@xinf3ctdx]

@@nerddwarf And even more simple to not do what you said and pick a single number that’s already right in front of you instead. Personally, no one cares what you would’ve gone with because you couldn’t pick a more asinine hill to die on if you tried.

[@nerddwarf]

@@xinf3ctdx It's been 2 months

[@YasEmisDaBus]

Shulk's Side Smash is clearly intended to be his Slit Edge

[@danknados]

bruh that's what I'm saying

[@Dude5375]

The editing in this video is on another lvl, wth. Great stuff

[@breadtrd]

Shulk's Monado Buster hits hard though, even if it's not mechon. Maybe it got confused with Enchant. I think it should make your next attack stronger then disapper or something like that, or it just should have been left untouched.

[@yambo10]

I have absolutely no idea about anything Xenoblade, but to my understanding of it, I'm wondering if it would do more damage against R.O.B?

[@ninkstheultimate3376]

Oh yeah, especially with a XII Buster doing base damage of 10,000+ damage (double on Mechon).

[@sp0td0g]

@@yambo10 highly recommend the series, honestly the best games i've ever played

[@paultramell5427]

Little fun fact there is a way to figure out some of the damages for links attacks. By using the champion’s tunic it will enable you to see the health of your enemies which can help you calculate.

[@TheEmperorGulcasa]

I'd like to see Mythra with this, just because she's in no way just the fast weak one in XC2. She's still fast, but...

[@badashe1364]

As a Xenoblade 2 enjoyer. Y E S. Mythra is stupidly powerful as much as you would assume otherwise with Smash.

[@cryonictaco9948]

I'm surprised Kirby wasn't modified any further than he was. Unless, of course, his abilities are hard-coded, like most of Link's. Kirby's arsenal is almost entirely references to the game, with Hammer Flip, Final Cutter, Stone, his jab being a Fighter move and his grabs refrencing Suplex and Ninja. The stats can be found relatively easily online, such as Kirby's Hammer Flip doing 80 damage pretty consistently over the games. I wonder if there was a reason why the changes weren't made.

[@LilMickey584]

I’d love to see this again with Sora! He has lots of canonical moves in his game and he’d have some really cool interactions

[@inkkles]

you shouldve also gotten their canonical health and presumed 999% to equal 100% of their health, so that the character's defensive abilities carry over as well (interestingly, ryu and ken would have stayed the same here lol)

[@RazielSoulshadow]

The problem with that is that you can't change the damage of a move to do different amounts based on what character it hits, making that pretty much impossible. That said, I WOULD be interested in seeing what it'd be like if they used that method to balance each character's moves based on their own games. It'd actually make the pokemon STRONGER hilariously. And the RPGs would often still do nuts damage

[@kirbdabirb5627]

17:23 this match made me realise Nick doesnt know about the existence of Kirby Fighters Deluxe/2

[@GumshoeClassic]

The fact that these numbers are still a drop in the bucket compared to what Shulk can do in practice in XC1, let alone his guest appearance in XC2, got quite the chuckle out of me.

[@christianramirez3754]

His final smash in this mod should do like 999 million damage lol

[@SylvisNuvara]

he has nothing on sephiroth though, gigaflare doing like 7000 damage

[@christianramirez3754]

@@SylvisNuvara nah those are baby numbers in xenoblade lol.

[@GumshoeClassic]

@@SylvisNuvara Shull can easily churn out hundreds of thousands of damage.

[@DanialTarki]

Wait a minute. Wouldn’t Kirby and Sora hit so goddamn hard that their physical damage reaches *_into other fucking dimensions?_*

[@toyota86s]

Steve is simultaneously the most powerful character in existance as he's capable of carrying millions of tons of materials, but he's also the weakest character ever since, even with his diamond sword, he deals a maximum of 8 damage

[@magicball3201]

Shulk's Monado talent art, Buster, does extra damage against *all* enemies. The Monado, before it is upgraded, cannot heart "homs", which are almost human, but crucially are not. So either a.) The monado does no damage always because youre judt ruling homs=humans, or b.)buster does bonus damage. Not that an extra 50k damage on top of 2000 damage would matter, but

[@danknados]

homs are separate to humans as homs are born of the bionis, while humans are not. therefore meaning the monado can hurt everyone in smash

[@GeorgeDCowley]

@@danknados Even other Shulk?

[@danknados]

@@GeorgeDCowley wdym 'even other shulk'? There is only 1 shulk, and he is a homs, so the monado cannot hurt him in its' base state. On the other hand, everyone else in smash are not homs or high entia so can be harmed by the monado in its' base state, even pyra and mythra, as they are from the world of alrest, not bionis.

[@TheUltimateGooner]

2:54 little fact with the formulas. For the base stat total. An evolution (if it dosnt completely change the stats) will multiply by 1.5x if they are a middle evo. And 2x if it's a final evo or the only evo. This bonus also applies to mons with no evos.

[@Chckster]

Scizor:

[@GeorgeDCowley]

A little less, and there are cases like Mismagius (most later-generation evolutions, actually) and the Nincada line.

[@fangzgaming5510]

12:57 When he said "editor do you know what d to play" I said "Oh yeah we're bringing out the best theme in the world, Guile's theme!"

[@fangzgaming5510]

Edit: "editor you know what to play"

[@Am_Cookie2436]

"You may not have heard of it" I've seen over a hundred goddamn ads about it just because I have honkai impact 3 installed even though I still haven't touched it for over 3 months

[@GeorgeDCowley]

1:49 That's incredibly cursed, especially since MC isn't just called "Mitsuki Nanoka" in every language. 7:00 Why can't you just go deeper? 13:24 To be fair, you can go up to 999.9 in Smash, you're just expected to win much sooner.

[@KazuNEET]

Only problem with this mod is that this isn't "canon" damage. It just does the damage that it normally would in the original game. Canon damage would be how powerful they would be story wise, for example even if the move seemed simple, like most Pokemon moves, and did little damage in-game, it would still cause huge damage to the surroundings according to lore.

[@crawlinggoose]

Since all of Roy's overhead swing moves are based on his standard attack when he uses the Sealed Sword in FE6, they should all do 18-32 damage, and the fire attacks based on his crit animation should do triple that.

[@AzumarillConGafasBv]

Wait, you mean Roy dealing ACTUAL significant damage is a thing?, Roy suck ass on his game lol the only thing that makes him any good is the Biding Blade and still sucks

[@crawlinggoose]

@@AzumarillConGafasBv A few hours in the arena, and Roy becomes a pretty good dodge tank, and gets a decent crit chance. Plus, once he promotes, he actually becomes pretty good, even without the Sealed Sword, but he still is nowhere nears as good as Rutoga or Percival.

[@crawlinggoose]

@@AzumarillConGafasBv Also, Project Ember Roy basically solos the game.

[@AzumarillConGafasBv]

@@crawlinggoose not original FE6

[@crawlinggoose]

@@AzumarillConGafasBv Even in the original, his crit chance becomes pretty good if you're willing to risk leveling him, especially if you use the rapier.

[@Alexander050101]

The animations showcasing the moves that have their canon damage was so clean keep up the sick work :) The TC nation budget going up 💪

[@zombeef3074]

“Splatoon is a game that revolves around getting high on paint, and killing anyone who tries to prevent that”

[@andrewroes7942]

I absolutely cannot hold it against you cause this is some turbo nerd stuff but I was really hoping that Shulk Fsmash would do canon damage since the animation is directly pulled from Slit Edge in Xenoblade 1. He also has some other moves that are potentially references (dash attack being shaker edge, ftilt being autoattack), but Slit Edge is the only one that is pretty much inarguable. Turbo nerd stuff aside banger video love to see it. Also very unfortunate for Ryu and Ken for this video to happen just before SF6 since average health there is 10k instead of 1k lmao

[@lelobelo1044]

18:17 that makes sense because in the games kirby eats someone or something and takes it out it turns into a star and your just dead

[@Livus]

Loving this new style of video you've been doing. The production is incredible

[@june9914]

Shoulda made status moves do the appropriate status, like agility doubling pichus speed and tail whip making the opponent more vulnerable

[@fluffygoatzie3578]

Kirby cannonically can hit back a giant meteor 9999 light years away in 22 seconds with a baseball bat. Imagine if he used his side B/special in Smash since it's a hammer.

[@idoshanintendo]

You literally turned the shotos into their level 8, 5 star handicaped versions of themselvs from street fighter 6. And I thought they are going to stay the same, I love it.

[@lavestahuntail8495]

Nice to see canonical Shulk in smash bros

[@contant820]

Hey nick I just wanted to say I would love to see lulling with every pyra and mythra move. The easy ones will be like phrased down air, but what about Mythras back throw 🤔

[@MineNAdventurer]

11:50 That's technically not true. Monado Buster does get 2x dmg against Mechon but it also has an art Power of 2.5 to 7 (or 8 in DE) so the dmg multiplier for Monado Buster should apply. If you wanted this to be more accurate you'd need to update Monado Buster's name to Monado Enchant too.

[@HarmonicVector]

"Rest heals you to 0%" Hungrybox would be undisputed winner.

[@Chaud31423]

For Mewtwo's Tail Whip, it should apply a coating of Inkling's Ink

[@kumicables]

fun fact, since mewtwo's final smash is psystrike, and mewtwo doesnt learn that move until level 100, we can assume that the smash bros mewtwo is level 100

[@Noxzu_BH]

the editing is so goodddd props to the editor

[@dominicgilmore3844]

I haven't seen a video of yours in a minute, but this editing is insanely different and so much more impressive, it's fantastic

[@Rat_the_Renegade]

Thunder Jolt actually is a real Pokemon move, in the card game. It wasn't made up for Smash.

[@keysgaming6830]

"Pick the strongest character that we played today" Mewtwo sat in the corner using psychic:

[@BlueEyes274]

And every time Pokemon are picked, Lucario is constantly avoided. I'd imagine in this mod he'd be actually insane.

[@silverwalker2934]

11:52 Well it does double the damage agaisnt mechon but in the game itself buster is a suoer strong art in general agaisnt regular enemies anyways. In smash they made it work more like monado enchant where his attacks do more damage and is purple cause in Xenoblade Monado Buster is more of a Bluish White then Purple.

[@lloydaran]

Samus' Screw Attack and Speed Booster (upB and dash attack) let you literally blow up most enemies in one shot in her games, it would have been cool to see that

[@narwhalking1203]

If you think about it canonically that is the starting monado in the game and since it couldn’t hurt humans at the start it shouldn’t do any damage to human characters

[@Overtied_Studios]

Nick: Air slash only does 2022.18 damage.

[@jayhoangdang]

the editing in this vid is crisp god damn 11/10

[@arcticfluffyfoxy]

2:29 Mewtwo is actually level 100 due to what move their final smash is so actually it's safe to say all of the Pokémon are level 100

[@kittykake44]

Shoutout to the editor not only for the epic edits this vid but for the based Gladion theme usage

[@CoolManSwag.]

Now do all the characters with ALL their cononical stats, jump, speed, health, defense, damage, EVERYTHING

[@Jsuelieta]

Mewtwo's "tail whip" should probably have been Slam instead since that's actually more reflective of the move description. Tail Whip is a move where the pokemon is meant to wag its tail to make it seem more unassuming to make opponents lower their guard, while Slam is actually smashing into a target with a large tail or similar.

[@GeorgeDCowley]

Mewtwo doesn't learn that, but they don't learn Tail Whip, either.

[@chiya703]

The editor killed it! Kudos! Oh and the two guys are cool too I guess

[@diabeticman2194]

I'm really curious in how a Min Min/Shulk match would go, those two seemed to be the most busted with canonical damage

[@subbys9920]

the editing on this video is nice af, props to the editor.

[@Lil_Squink]

Kirby moves have a set amount of damage, and there’s literally a “Smash” Copy Ability in Star Allies you could’ve used for reference. Neutral B shouldn’t have been the only move changed.