Teachers are Quiet Quitting

[@etacude]

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[@commonsense8334]

They are not quitting. They are just not allowing themselves to get abused which most workers are now. Most do many many jobs. I don’t blame them

[@frankorozco7715]

true!

[@littlesongbird1]

Agreed. I am lucky that my principal understands. Sometimes if she sees me at the school late doing something she will tell me, "That can wait till tomorrow. Go home and rest!"

[@mrs.stocky2445]

Agreed! I did this and got fired because boundaries were not allowed at my school. I went to work at a bank in an entry level position, made more money, had better benefits, had solid, predictable hours, never asked to work outside of work hours…no degree required….it blew my mind.

[@algae_]

I support this for teachers! So many of my teachers were such bright, wonderful mentors for me, so many of them never gave up on me no matter how horrible I was. They need to be appreciated much more. I truly thank all of our teachers and especially mine, who went above and beyond for me and my peers 💛

[@txspacemom765]

I loudly quit but I stand with my quiet quitters. I was making $53K, with a Masters Degree and holding multiple area certifications, paying for my own additional education REQUIREMENTS and CEU's, and working an average of 14 hours a day. And before anyone says it, even during those supposed "summers off" time. Summer "vacation" has been cut down to around 6 weeks, on average, in the US. People need to understand contract hours, as I am hired for X amount of hours, yet I am "expected" by the people in charge to put in an average of 20-25 hours a week- unpaid, outside of contract. I went into another industry, still as an educator. I make $96K now and my job ends at 5, everyday, M-F. They value me for my input, work ethic, degrees and oh, for being human. I occasionally work additional hours, when we put on an educational event, but I am compensated with shorter work week hours or day. Yep. Imagine that!

[@DaughterofDiogenes]

Can I ask what you pivoted to? I am starting a consulting business this year as I work well with kids with adhd and autism and hope to be a consultant for districts as they realize the increasing numbers of neurodivergent children in their classrooms.

[@txspacemom765]

@@DaughterofDiogenes Aerospace, it's a private company. Training, education, I also dabble in marketing and design. You would be surprised at how excited they get about educators.

[@DaughterofDiogenes]

@ yes that’s what I’ve heard. They know how hard we work. I have my degree in philosophy and my masters in education and my previous work experience was as a paralegal for 12 years. I’m trying to use every single bit of my professional background to move forward. I really want to get into corporate education and/or training. I’ve always been told that once you get consultant after your name you will be swimming in dough.

[@txspacemom765]

@@DaughterofDiogenes You WILL do it! I have faith in it!

[@blah914]

where do u work 😭😭 I'll move wherever for a workplace like that

[@TheKnallkorper]

They want us to constantly do more and more trainings too. It literally NEVER ends

[@disgruntledtoons]

The first step teachers can do to preserve their sanity is to stop caring whether the students actually learn anything.

[@dawnofthedelts]

Honestly, this is the best advice. Be kind, helpful, fun, and reliable. Let the chips fall where they may.

[@DaughterofDiogenes]

I have also had several teacher friends pass away over the last couple years from heart failure. And a friend of mine was working at a school over the summer where one of the teachers died of heart failure in the bathroom. The week I quit one of my coworker told me how he had had a heart attack in the middle of class during the summer program that past summer. It was like everything in the universe was telling me to quit that job.

[@1928House_Washington]

I "quiet quit" this year. I'm a special education teacher and im over capacity which means additional paperwork i CANNOT IGNORE without breaking the law. I'm also missing planning time most days to deal with behaviors. I fill out the union approved forms for EVERY SINGLE MINUTE

[@mariaradulovic3203]

Teaching kids to behave in class and respecting teachers is the parents' job.

[@DaughterofDiogenes]

Thank you! Now a days kids are coming in not even knowing their own legal name. I had first graders running around the room with scissors screaming “big back big back” and when I call home you never answer and don’t respond to any messages. Like no thank you. I’m done.

[@alexedgar6539]

I'm just trying not to burn out. I want to be able to keep my job long enough to save up some money for my future.

[@DaughterofDiogenes]

Omg the paperwork. Since they are all data obsessed now, they have trackers for every single part of the lesson. Just before I quit I counted and they really asked me to have 5 separate trackers that I complete every day. Like I had to have them on a clipboard and use them all every day for every student while also somehow teaching and to not have the clipboard in my hand was to get a write up. Then I had to turn in all those trackers every week. And some of them were tracking the grades that were already in the system. They took my 5th grade class and moved me to a first grade class with all the worst kids pulled from the other first grade classes. Ok so you replaced a certified teacher in a tested grade with a sub and moved the certified teacher to the u tested class. Ok makes no sense but definitely had me thinking about quitting. But then they walked into my room on the second day with a big ole pile of papers. This woman looked me in my face and told me that this pile of papers was all the grades from the new students they gave me for the whole first quarter (we were in the second quarter). This lady looks at me with a straight face and tells me it’s my job to go through all of this and RE ENTER the grades for each student. Like they really thought I was born yesterday. Nowhere in my contract does it say I will be doing office work. I didn’t change my class, admin did against my will. And then you come in and tell me I have 14 weeks for the grades to enter for reasons. Hell no. I resigned the next day.

[@Ravenelvenlady]

Quiet quitting is just DOING YOUR FREAKING JOB! Don't let these corporate trolls and demons gaslight you for a single second. If they don't like it, they can go kick rocks without socks!

[@calvojdog]

Your videos have outlined so many important ideas. I appreciate you speaking up for teachers. I was starting to think I was going mad about the burnout, but you've tied it together so eloquently. Your videos help me feel sensible about the circumstances we are in. You're doing amazing work 🙏🏽

[@tjMooMoo]

If us, as teachers, are educating the next generations of the world, why are we paid so low? Seems like a bad return on investment.

[@stevenshelton6772]

It isn’t Quite Quitting. It is taking care of yourself and family. Not letting a dysfunctional school system take advantage of them. This abusive system needs to stop.

[@creepycrespi8180]

quiet quitting = not killing yourself for a paycheck if you dont have too. wish i had realized this 30 years ago.

[@demonica6887]

Students are more disrespectful and violent toward teachers.

[@DaughterofDiogenes]

It’s because they’ve been raised by the internet and have no self regulation, attention span, or ability to regulate their emotions. Teaching the general population of internet kids is hell on earth these days. I will continue to teach because I love kids, but unfortunately I will no longer be working with the kids that need me the most. I just can’t deal with them anymore.

[@CostaMalini]

I think as a less experienced teacher the pressure is on to show you are just as worthy as experienced teachers and worthy for your position. So yeah, I do feel pressure from myself and employers to do the most and it's overwhelming. I want to quiet quit but I'm also scared of losing my job...

[@nice1stuOnline]

In my day and we are talking a few years ago now, we had "Working to Rule" as a way to prptest promoted by the unions. You work exactly, to the letter to the rules of the contract, employment law, etc... Literally you would put down something you are ½ way through if it is time for you break and come back after you break and start again. The moment it is time for break, lunch, home, you go. You don't clean the kitchen area, etc etc... This often lead to productivity falling and costs rising, indicating how much extra people did

[@DaughterofDiogenes]

I quit out loud. I tried just keeping my head down and teaching and I swear I got targeted this year. It was so insane. I’ve never experienced anything so toxic and demoralizing that what I went through this year. I resigned from the school I was at last week and this week for reclassified as a sub. I love teaching but there are far too many toxic admin running teachers into the ground.

[@VolundMush]

I hear horror stories from my step-mom, who is a teacher in the 3rd-5th grade range... and I seriously do not think she is paid enough for all of the work she does and how much care she puts out for her students, who desperately need the help in the wake of COVID. The whole public education system needs serious reforms and much more funding attention if it's gonna get anything good done...

[@TeamRampageWX]

When teachers, the content and pedagogy experts, stop being treated like students is when we'll be allowed back into our classrooms. Until then, peace out. Was a fun 7 years with the students. Call me when they remember teachers are the professionals that should be running schools.

[@anikalee9012]

I was a teacher last year. I really quit. Never going back to the job again.

[@christinecrow4251]

The entire funding system of education is built around the expectation that teachers will do hours of unpaid labor. For decades schools were able to get by with this because there were so many young teachers graduating from college every year. In the past, 25 teachers or more applied for each open position. But even in the so called glory days, we lost almost 50% of our teachers within the first five year as the reality of the job and unpaid labor really set in. That statistic is getting worse every year as more and more teachers are quitting or retiring early. Now you are lucky if you get 2 or 3 qualified candidates for a position. Way too many positions were left unfilled at the beginning of the school year, or the school makes due with an unlicensed person or a licensed teacher, but one licensed in a totally different area. Colleges are graduating fewer and fewer teachers. Several states graduated fewer teachers than the number who had left the profession that year. Each years the number of new teachers is dwindling. The thing is the US does not have a teacher shortage, we have a shortage of teachers willing to work under the current conditions. Cracks are showing in the foundation of how we financed our schools. It was based on unpaid labor, teachers buying spending their own money for student supplies, and burn and churn of new hire teachers.

[@haneenghabeish4776]

This is amazing I really appreciate it

[@kathleengoldsbury95]

Teaching was definitely demanding so much extra work outside of work hours and the pay absolutely does not match at all. Anywhere:

[@BarryBrandon-mz7gb]

Stop working for free. Until teachers stop they will continue to expect it. Haven't taken anything home in 20 years of my 30-year career.

[@louiskucinski5016]

Yes the system does not care . so what do they expect teachers to do ??

[@Carriel5547]

It’s hard to quite quit because in order to engage a diverse set of students you have to do extensive planning and preparation. I spend at least 10 hours a week above and beyond my contract just for the extra planning I need to cover some of my high school classes that are all on different levels. Some would say to just keep lesson and re-use them over and over every year, but no two years look the same in my case.

[@BarryBrandon-mz7gb]

You're working approx. 3,800 "extra" unpaid hours a year? That's exactly what districts are counting on.

[@TorianTammas]

You work the amount of hours you get paid for and thrn you go home. This is called doing your job

[@Ordinary_mee]

I think before deciding to leave a job, it’s good to consider changing your workplace or taking a break for self-improvement.

[@frankorozco7715]

Hello, I spent all the video analyzing your viewpoints with a mix of feelings because I felt related with all of them, in some moments I felt you agreed with teachers and quiet quitting phenomenon, but sometimes I felt you disagreed and tried to motivate them, but one thing I can tell you, is not the teachers you need to convince, its the private sector which uses teachers to accumulate their wealth and not letting the teachers participate in that wealth. Education is a profitable business, and owners treat teachers as any other low class workers.

[@FlyingDwarfman]

I and roughly 20% of the teachers at my last school have quit -- note: by early November! -- because we were attempting to set healthy work-home boundaries and management refused to allow us. Most of us tried 'quiet quitting' and management violated our contracts in order to punish and/ or force us out.

[@BarryBrandon-mz7gb]

Didn't do it quietly enough.

[@haneenghabeish4776]

This amazing I want to summarize every and each point..

[@MikeB32280]

This has been done in the past and "quiet quitting" is a new corporate term that at face value sounds bad on the worker. This is called "work to rule" and it's a form of protest that is meant to put pressure on upper management while still continuing to do the job. In this case it's meant to draw attention to poor pay and working conditions without the complete disruption of a strike. This is why The Daily Show managed to hit the nail on the head so well but still failed to address why this term is being used, there isn't quitting happening but calling it that sure makes it easier to villainize.

[@asan1050]

Thanks for posting this video.

[@WakkerWordWoord]

One fully understands the mental fatigue and emotions of overworked teachers.

[@davidnelson2204]

Can parents volunteer for substitute teachers? As someone who is about to be a dad I would happily use a day of paid vacation to teach a science class for a day. Admin is responsible for background checks and ensuring sub quality for the lesson for said day. Would at least make my biochemistry degree worth something…. I dream of taking a class through the rollercoaster that is the periodic table (ignoring the transition metals of course other than mercury and noble metals of course).

[@christinecrow4251]

Most schools are desperate for subs. We have a shortage of them. You do not need to volunteer, they will pay you and then beg you to come back.

[@davidnelson2204]

@ I’d rather donate it to the school… unfortunately the pay wouldn’t be a draw. Frame it as a tax write off and I think you’d get much more participation.

[@DaughterofDiogenes]

16:12 I had this in my class. 😂😂. I would just respond well you can do what you want but if you don’t do this you get a zero so…but I worked with 5th grade. And if he could spell all those words then he didn’t need to write them again. He needed more rigorous work OR just let the kid draw the Pokémon 😂😂

[@ssjlkrillin]

"Quiet quitting" is a management term. There's no such thing as quitting when you're still working. People are protecting themselves from exploitation and burnout.

[@912deborah]

Teaching is a thankless profession. Do you know school bus drivers make more? Like $8 more per hour. Smfh

[@DerekRitli-wh1xw]

Not in my district. They make almost exactly half per hour as a starting teacher. You should always caveat statements to accommodate your limited scope.

[@BarryBrandon-mz7gb]

In no county in America do school bus drivers make more than teachers with bachelor and masters degrees. Where do ya'll live where adults are making $8hr. and believe they make more than teachers??

[@kcc879]

As a single mum it helped me to NOT volunteer anything because I couldn't do it. I'll never do camps, sports days, swimming days, fundraisers etc. It has been a really good lesson. I've seen so many new first year teachers putting their hands up for EVERYTHING and come to school burned out and crying and leadership won't support them. Focus only on your teaching - that's it! Only contact parents if assessments haven't been handed in and is late, that's it! Also schools need to pay teachers for the hours we're at school that'll help contain work at work. Also teachers consider going on a part time load, I've dropped down to four days a week, as a single mum, to help me manage myself, health and workload :) happy days.

[@scienceteacher2027]

Yeah, we are actually third down on teachers where I teach

[@green_eye_gossip]

Teachers can’t quiet quit. They have to loud quit

[@kenza.teaches]

Hi thank you very much for helping! I just want to ask you about the password of most pdfs you have shared with us before

[@parimazi3595]

And here I am thinking that conditions in the USA were better for teachers, but it seems I was mistaken. Well here in Greece are so much worse. No wonder teachers in the public sector no longer care and do the minimum. For those of us in the private sector things are tragic. Not only are we paid peanuts but we are never paid on time.

[@learnamericanenglish222]

There you have it.

[@marmeedoll]

Leaving? Why would anyone stay? Teaching has become unbearable.

[@BarryBrandon-mz7gb]

Because I have learned to detach and our district pays 138k.

[@marcmeinzer8859]

I taught for 7 years originally, then tried being a Benedictine brother for an eighth year before quitting for good in 1994. My rule of thumb was do absolutely everything at work and take virtually nothing home. In other words fake it till you make it. That’s all they’re paying for and that’s all that they are entitled to in consequence. If they don’t like it then you can always quit and go ship out with the merchant marine if there’s nothing else going on for you.

[@katybug1966]

She described exactly what I did in our last PD day. LOL

[@Automage45]

What you’re describing are boundaries not quite quitting. Boundaries are great! It’s when you show up and you don’t want to your do your job, complain about everything, constantly call in sick and you try to push your work on to your other co workers. I have my job to do and I’m not doing your work and watching you get paid for work you didn’t do

[@DavidB.Fischer]

Popular trend in the modern time.

[@luanneoneill]

I quiet quit about 3 years before I really quit.

[@cindywelna686]

Sir, quiet quitting is about not doing all the extras outside of classroom teaching. No one said that they are not going to try to do a good job teaching. It's unbelievable how much extra work they want you to do without any extra compensation. How do you do a good job teaching when you're overworked with all the unpaid extras?

[@bikwah90]

I prefer the phrase "acting your wage"

[@lastmonkstanding5717]

No work outside contract hours. Ironclad rule. Extra homework? Buy a paper shredder.

[@astrinymris9953]

Conservative legislators who make cushy salaries with lots of benefits expect teachers to work hours they aren't paid for and even to put part of their own money into buying classroom supplies instead of funding education like they should. In short, they're demanding the poor to sacrifice their paychecks, health, and sanity to keep taxes on the wealthy low... *and for 40+ years teachers accepted that!* The really surprising thing is that it took teachers so long to recognize they were being taken advantage of. Altruism is a powerful thing, and it's easily exploited by the users.

[@saxmanash]

Just working like we do here in Europe then............

[@ref3871]

Doing what's in your contract is not quiet quitting? It's just working? And doing extra MUST come at extra price? Like, what?? Quiet quitting is just showing up and pretending to do bare minimum to not get fired, but not an actual doing everything that's in your contract, like wtf.

[@Claudialupper]

That is NOT quiet quitting. That is just working the contract amount instead of giving overpaid administration and belligerent parents control of every second of your life. STOP CALLING IT QUIET QUITTING. They are still working way harder than most people.

[@ClarkMcK-fj7fm]

I wish there really was a hotline.

[@MSmith-ib1du]

"quietly quitting." Sigh, no wonder they're quitting.

[@rollosinternet1853]

It shouldn't be called "quiet quitting", it has nothing to do with quitting, just a fairer relationship with work so we are not exploited by our employers and end sick and poor. They shouldn't expect us to put so many unpaid hours and being attacked by students, parents and admin. No wonder we have to protect ourselves and so many end up properly quitting a highly demanding but low paid job. Improve the conditions or nobody will take care of the children so parents won't be able to be exploited themselves and the system ends. Maybe that wouldn't be so bad, we need a change.

[@marko112kg]

Um, that is called working.

[@trinstonmichaels7062]

Yes this is why the school system needs to be reworked.

[@bryanmartinjakarta]

Quietly quitting, looks like we need them after all

[@gabeo9474]

Never negotiate. It's highly counterproductive and will ultimately only make your job vastly more difficult. If a student refuses to do what's expected of them, then they must face the repercussions, and it's not your fault. When students feel that they can simply negotiate their way out of trouble, they no longer fear the repercussions of failure, so they do not put in their best effort. Allowing one student to negotiate their way out of trouble infects the entire class (and likely future classes) with this attitude. Consistently maintaining a position of authority will make your job easier and - most importantly - create better students.

[@nicholemenard1274]

Teachers should bane together and everyone simply do their job and nothing extra.

[@jaydel3]

quiet quitting has such negative connotations for people who don’t know anything about teaching. Surely, they could have worded it better.

[@soblessed4844]

DO NOT TRY THIS IF YOU ARE NOT TENURED!

[@soblessed4844]

Another hint…use your sick days!

[@babotond]

doing what you're paid for and not doing what you're not paid for? how very dare you?!

[@dng6121]

teachers quit now.

[@johnrencheck2283]

CORPORATE AMERICA DOES THIS IN ANY JOB THE MORE U DO THE MORE THEY HEAP ON U I LEARNED THIS NO VOLUNTEERING BARE MINIMUM WAS MUCH HAPPIER AFTER...HAVE A LIFE

[@survivingthetimes]

Just a euphemism for being a slacker, an underacheiver, a nowhere man. People been doing that forever. Nothing new like you think that it is.

[@nakahara_v5687]

Are you teacher? How many hours do your spend in the evening to prepare the lesson?

[@guyincognito9698]

How’s that boot leather taste?

[@wandamarkle2642]

All of what i experienced and more, so the year i quit so did many teachers at the school. Kids were horrible, ad min had unrealistic expectations and bartered with each other for supplies stashed away.😢

[@emilyann4549]

Parents are slacking on raising their kids, leaving educators to not only educate but also parent. They aren't paid to make kids behave. Parents teach their kids to behave and value their education. Educators should not be expected to raise other peoples kids. Period, end of story!

[@91pinklipstick]

Then quit? You weren't meant to be am educator then. Everyone's entitled these days & want easy money. Good riddance.