Team Associated DR10M first thoughts tips weight and step by step build brief side-by-side with DR10

[@micahjared8082]

RC dude since the mid 80s. Drag cars were not huge back then. Infact they were non existent > Unless you were eccentric with big bucks. Flash forward 35yrs and we have a no prep group brewing in Upstate NY. Picked up the Losi No prep (on sale for 199) for stock class but deep down inside I need something better for outlaw/mod class. Got my Dr10m today. Literally 40mns ago. I dont really need your help but Im gonna build it with you just for fun. The reason I subscribed and the reason that WE are DEF building this rig together came @23:45. Your my kinda dude Bro. 😂 A well oiled machine is everything... See you in the morning with bag #1. My wife is down too! For all you upcoming future Rc'ers TelecomandoRC knows whats up so follow and subscribe! Goodnight

[@telecomandorc]

Enjoy your builds. Thank you kindly and good night. P.S. Stay safe. Air is not so good there right now due to the Canadian fires I hear. My sister-in-law was going to go to a baseball game and had to take a raincheck... kind of ended her trip early.

[@islandrc-duke1972]

great build,can't wait to see it run

[@telecomandorc]

Thanks. I will have a running update at some point. 😎 Once I get the Bittydesign body ready. Or I may use the old one.

[@jamesweeks4152]

did the kit come with shock limiters?

[@telecomandorc]

6mm front.

[@ConditionZero76]

Bro you just said that fiberglass chassis is stronger than "Carbon Fiber" 😆 your not serious right ? You do realize Carbon fiber is five-times stronger than steel and twice as stiff right ? Not only is it stronger and stiffer than steel, it's also lighter than steel; making it the ideal manufacturing material for many many parts.

[@telecomandorc]

I did say that. It is a glass fiber or glass composite. It is called G10 composite. It is stronger than carbon fiber but heavier. That is the downside. Carbon fiber has a better strength to weight ration but G10 is less expensive. Although, it all depends of the epoxy used. Side note, carbon fiber absorbs energy better than steel. It is stronger than steel initially (many up to 5 times stronger... depends on the epoxy used). "Initially" is key as it depends on the application. Steel does not have a "life" but carbon fiber does have a "life". So steel engine rods will cycle "forever" as long as they operate below their threshold (yeold point)... and have good bearing, lubed, etc. Carbon fiber will eventually fail as it gets weaker over time through cycles (it has a cycle life un like steel). When new, the strength of cf is massively greater and a great choice for static things (don't cycle or expirience forces in multiple directions) like high pressure tanks. Therefore, carbon fiber is really only stronger 2D. Once a force is applied in a 3D (or perpendicular) it tears appart which is why metal fastners are inbeded... such as steel fastners or aluminum (by the way aluminum also has a cycle life). So cf is not the best for mass produced engine rods with current methods of fabrication because it is weaker than steel when experiencing forces in multiple direction. I think cf rods, for example, are only used in single run drag engines.

[@ConditionZero76]

@@telecomandorc I appreciate all your information but your still saying G-10 fiberglass is stronger than Carbon fiber and it's not ,not in any form or fasion. CF is used to make, among other things, airframe components for fighter jets, high end exotic super car chassis, guitar necks, precision rifle barrel wraps etc etc on and on. Carbon fiber is also sometimes known as graphite fiber. It’s made from thin, strong micro-fine threads or “filaments” of almost 100% pure carbon. The filaments are twisted together in much the same way yarn is twisted, then woven into a sort of badass super-cloth. Carbon fiber cloth is 5 times stronger than steel (the cloth alone ), twice as rigid and much lighter. This cloth is then saturated with a special resin, layered and compressed under high pressure to make the woven carbon fiber. Though either material is substantially stronger than steel, industrial carbon fiber is more than 20 -30 percent stronger than the 'best' fiberglass. Carbon fiber boasts a strength to weight ratio roughly twice that of fiberglass I understandwhat your saying as far as pushrods I'm talking basically CF vs Fiberglass G10..... 👍🏽💯

[@telecomandorc]

@@ConditionZero76 I guess the dispute is the generalization the cf is always stronger 🙂 It really is application based and based on the forces that are applied and I address this at the end of this post. But Cf is weak or not durable in many applications. Not sure if you follow F1 and how the cf halo gave out and just tore off. Now in a headon crash, if I had to choose... 🤔😅 I would rather not be in a crash... but if I were, let it be a cf chassis. But all cf will eventually have to be straped. It will just get weak over cycle use. I am also not disputing the fact that cf is a great material used for aircraft, ect. It is initially stronger than steel... initially. But cf has a cycle life... a very long one, yes... but has a life. Eventually it will need to be scrapped just like helicopter blades. Steel does not have a life as long as the application does not excess the yield point. But steel is so heavy it makes no sence to use in this application. Just replace cf blades every 20 years or what every the cycle life it. At some point of use cf will become weaker than steel. Just in case others read this... steel does not replace cf and should not in most applications because of the strength to weight ration. Cf simply out performs in certain application. Now, cf is the best oprion for aircraft, top race cars, ect. I agree with you. The reason is strength to weight. Look at copmtetition bicicles. No one will make a steel frame... too heavy. Performance demands Al and cf... but both have a life and will need to be scrapped after their cycle life. Now G10 vs. cf... my point is that G10 is stronger than cf but heavier. G10 will not split like cf will. It will not chip like cf will. Now, would I perfer a chassis made of G10 or cf? Cf for sure. It is lighter and for this aplication I will just add CA glue every time it splits. As long as I am not crashing, it should not split. In the direction of force that causes cf to give, G10 is stronger. I appreciate your post. I let's me know how I need to improve in the details I give or explanations rather than just making a statment and assuming my mind can be read thereafter.

[@ConditionZero76]

@@telecomandorc good information you have some very valid points,I tend to over react sometimes to generalized statements lol maybe I need to leave well enough alone, at the end of the day both CF and G10 are very strong dependant upon the application at hand w/ G10 on the heavier side....Thanks Buddy, had a nice time conversing 👍🏽

[@telecomandorc]

@@ConditionZero76 On the contrary, thank you. You see, my goal is to provide quality information. Conversations such as these make me analyze what I say and do and try to make a video better in the future. I have Al chassis, cf chassic, and G10. You gave be a fabulous idea for a comparison video. It will take me a while as I have a list of things to cover, but at some point I will have a video based on our conversation. 😁 and you gave me great leads as to what to cover and focus on. So, thank you very much.