Team caught CHEATING in TOURNAMENT And Still LOST!

I just wanted to explain what happened in the current Rome 2 Tournament and that it still is up and running! A team cheated and tarnished their reputation and tried to take advantage of me and the community.
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[@ubersneak]

2020: Cheat in a 6 year old game that does not have a cash prize in front of hundreds of people. Priorities.

[@cowboy1772]

Ikr...?

[@koreancowboy42]

Cuz their the stupid type of ppl. Cheating over a "fun tournament match" and u get only a "Title" wow....... Good job. That's why I hate playing competitive games cuz they just think they are above everyone in game. When there's better teams out there and everyone has "bad games" that doesn't mean anyone sucks. It just means they need a better opportunity. Everytime I play total war, I usually friend ppl who I go against, win or lose. I give advice and receive advice. Actually.... Not usually? But it's kinda meh lol, tho I do like playing against ppl regardless I lose cuz I can learn from my mistakes (always watching my replays) and or trying new strategy.

[@emperorlokire7648]

I imagine they thought that it being such low stakes would make it very unlikely for them to get caught.

[@koreancowboy42]

@@emperorlokire7648 probably thought so. The tournament was just for a title and for fun.

[@hunterz2453]

How is this a six-year-old game?

[@Shane-bosh]

The fact that they cheated and still lost and got exposed by Apollo is for cheating is rough

[@thefalloutphoenix]

Its hilarious

[@issakonfourou7586]

Mercz Apollo didn't expose them it was the community Edit 1: thanks for likes Edit: OMG thanks for 31 likes holy shit

[@AgentWillP]

It's deserved

[@issakonfourou7586]

@@jordanbautista5874 who?

[@Shane-bosh]

@@jordanbautista5874 he kinda did, some people didn't know about them cheating so he kinda did expose them with uploading a video explaining it

[@firefox3977]

Anyone else just go, "JUST TELL US PLEASE." Halfway through the video? 😂 just me?

[@dking6021]

For fuck sake yes, its really late, but like, I don't care at all about all the caveats....

[@someaussieguy140]

“I’m gonna approach this video like a journalist, not really show any bias” I don’t know what journalists your talking about.

[@jaro551]

@@raptornugget5385 maybe in America

[@tristanbernek631]

Journalists are all bias little shits who like to cause trouble in any nation

[@mountainman1728]

sports journalist

[@oddgerman3775]

@@jaro551 In Britian too you ever seen BBC news lmao

[@Pt_Lacky]

@@jaro551 The news is biased everywhere, whether it is run by business or government. It will be to push the relevant agenda, whether that be for money or votes.

[@williamguan6735]

Honestly, Apollo handled this situation so maturely and appropriately. I don't think I would have done what he did if I was in his position.

[@aidanbazarnic9246]

I would have gotten REALLY mad. Honestly

[@realone4993]

True lol

[@pradyutbhattacharjee3636]

True indeed.

[@janhruby190]

Think for yourself. Do not believe everything you hear. This is subjective as hell and events circumstancial at best are explained as hard evidence. I haven't been part of the tournament, but besides the pull through it is just a wild tale from Apollo. Cheap and shameful

[@jeffthemercenary]

nice

[@SirEnglishBatman]

So they were the team in the last tournament that DC'd when they were about to get rekt by the cav that sallied out? I remember the chat, EVERYBODY knew the timing was too convenient.

[@seamussmyth1928]

What does DC mean?

[@SunnyGoodbye]

@@seamussmyth1928 Disconnect, such as when your internet suddenly stops working.

[@michaelbiri6676]

@@seamussmyth1928 You Switch off your Router, instead of Alt +F4

[@seamussmyth1928]

@@SunnyGoodbye ab, thank you Øyvind

[@timgo197]

Yeap. I remember that. That was so dumb.

[@antitroller101]

So to list the cheating tricks: - Used broken mechanics of TW to break the enemy - Tried to get as much powers as possible to make rules beneficial to their tactics and play-style - Played against their own teammates in the 1st round so said teammates can throw the match and move forward in the Tourny - Planted a friend as ref so the illegal moves are not called out - (Possible) Purposeful disconnecting when losing to restart the match Am I missing anything else to how a team can sink so low (in a COMMUNITY TORNY of all things)

[@TheGraham217]

And then still lost!!! Lol

[@antitroller101]

@@TheGraham217 How does one fail that hard despite so many advantages? One has to try to do that.

[@pjishomo]

And after losing calling themselves legends

[@worlore1651]

Drag and dropped 5 times

[@EmporerAaron]

Thank you for listing what they did since no one else did in the comments when I wanted to know exactly what they did. I was like did they use a cheat code or something? And looking at your list I can understand and find it funny they still lost. Lesson here obviously is cheaters don't win for long.

[@tdh2044]

Imagine cheating in a total war game, you really must have no life 😂😂😂

[@koreancowboy42]

Agreed

[@FranciscoFariasHeatProductions]

Chill man its the new strategy on Warhammer

[@donallen5798]

FUCKIN LOSERS

[@Somebody_greek]

Stop it

[@anerexicpig720]

These people actually exist sadly

[@514YulJag]

Immortalized because of a video game? What a bunch of neck beards.

[@jesspayne5548]

note importa ye sorta

[@ma_name_is_jaff4119]

note importa you good dude?

[@SIRMMA]

Was that a micro-aggression?

[@ma_name_is_jaff4119]

note importa you really gonna bash someone in for saying something about neck beards?

[@thejboy5596]

Ma_Name_ Is_Jaff Damn straight we are! Neck beard lives matter!

[@finnjoseph8855]

Apollo: I’m not mad I’m just disappointed Me: *laughing* it’s papa Apollo

[@cowmanmooing6624]

Lol

[@dmt_useless2254]

I am so sorry for apollo but i think they got what they deserved they were very egotistical and they thought that they were better than everyone but what really disapoints me is that becouse of the total winners the tournament was altered heavily even in the first one someone else could have won if the total winners did not cheat and dc like the ducks could have made it further or any other team and now in this one they replaced one or more normal total war rome 2 players who just wanted to have fun in these tournaments batteling it out with other players they definitely got what they deserved they didn play the tournament for fun they played it because they wanted to be known as the best but that i think is normal for people who are egotistical to cheat just for attention but they also manipulated apollo who trusted them deeply and ruined the fun tournament and i hope nothing pike this happens again and by cheating they didnt get immortalized as the best no no no they ruined their name and killed by killed i mean utterly destroyed their reputation ( i am very sorry for the long comment and wrong grammer and stuff if you read this appolo I really like your videos keep up the good work and keep on doing fun stuuf like this tournament and this is not your fault love your vids keep posting them) (please do a total war rome 2 campaining)

[@raypluswatpent6823]

Nobody Jones You are getting to excited and angry about their cheating.

[@levimurdoch3918]

Big Papa

[@klyk69]

@Nobody Jones no need for homophobic slurs mate

[@felixche4375]

Total Virgins: "We have been Immortalized in the minds of thousands" Apollo: Ai so we gonna treat them like Carthage and just salt the earth n forget about them.

[@sadok6066]

savage 😂😂😂

[@BluEclipse94]

Except Carthage was never forgotten lol.

[@DoctorChained]

@@BluEclipse94 The average person doesn't know what Carthage is. They've heard of the Roman Empire though.

[@BluEclipse94]

@@DoctorChained In a lot of countries, even elementary school history classes teach about Rome and Carthage, so it is pretty basic stuff, same like ancient Greece.

[@kristiansantosa2997]

Summary about Total Losers: 5:15 They tried to bend the rule in their favor 14:10 Private referee to help them 17:16 Their 1st opponent was their own members 20:38 Convenient disconnects (I assume to restart the match when things go wrong?) Additional reason not to be such person: 19:33 Narcissistic Thanks for explaining this Apollo. I have feedback for the video: Might want to get a script before recording. For an outsider like me (who's not familiar with this game, just clicked because its on my recommendation), I had difficulty seeing the big picture (how they cheated) because there are so many distractions in the narrative. "So here's how they cheat. By the way, I am trying to be objective and you know what, let me tell you more background story before we get to the point." (5 minutes later) "Ok, let's get to the point. Again, I don't want to sound biased but let me tell you the context that I am about to tell you..." (Another 5 minutes) C'mon man tell me how they cheat already lol I suggest to put a summary of what they did in the first 5 minutes of the video and then you can elaborate on each points and add your personal opinion on the next 20 minutes of the video. 23:47 You could have said this 15 minutes earlier lol

[@marcomahardika5133]

Thank you

[@bva0]

Good comment. The actual way they cheated could have been explained in 10 minutes or less "in an unbiased way". The opinions/rant (which are more than 70% of the video) could have been extra/optional after that.

[@oEQjet]

Honestly I hit minute 13 of this video I was convinced this was a prank. You just had to laugh really. I said to myself "haha, Ok you got me, who made this video?... doesn't seem like the kind of channel to do a prank like this. He's so deadpan in his delivery... All the comments are serious..." THEN he actually says something of substance. That was crazy. THAT WAS CRAZY. I've never seen someone speak so slowly while speaking so quickly.

[@legatusmaximus7432]

bva it’s not a rant he’s explaining the gameplay along with it, he would get ridiculed for not explaining it properly sooooo.

[@ellismccoy]

I'm actually confused. Just watched and they cheated by having a fake team and DCing? It was like 25 minutes of just ranting with no actual information. This could have been 3 minutes long...

[@vickgalan6763]

Man the Honey Badgers (the non-cheating team) look like Spartans to my eyes right now. But better, since they won. They must be really good players.

[@ewout2763]

vick galan they also have a killer name. I mean: Honey Badgers. That just sounds cool!

[@ulfr5873]

They are really good! The Hungry Wolves has made some fine warriors out of them lol.

[@ewout2763]

@@ulfr5873 What do they have to do with the hungry wolves?

[@AcornSmokes420]

Ewout faced them in the last tournament

[@dejack_13]

sparta sucks

[@LTGRAVES]

Wtf, “We’ve been immortalized.” Someone is extremely full of themselves.

[@eclipsexfade9522]

Hamish Newton Shut up you're bad

[@ethancarlson1973]

Agreed.

[@princefriedman3025]

Sounds like a troll to me. No one in their right mind would ever say something like that

[@williamhaines7876]

its a fucking total war community tournament OMEGALUL

[@raeaugustus586]

@@hamishnewtonimsorryimsosca2171 Sore.... LOSER!

[@violatorut2003]

“We will be immortalized.” Yup, immortalized in shame.

[@stalhandske9649]

_Damnatio memoriae_ immaright?

[@The6Foot4Asian]

“We’ve been immortalized and now live rent free in the heads of thousands” is pretty representative of the mind-set of school shooters.

[@koreancowboy42]

More like a sad day at their funeral.

[@pyroparagon8945]

Yeah, that's true.

[@xBurzurkurx]

This whole thing that happened has probably fucked with their heads pretty hard ironically. Stay safe cause there are some actual fucking weirdo's out there and video games have shown me a lot

[@fishnujish1511]

"Treat them like Rome did to Carthage!" said Apollo. OK. YOU HEARD TOBIAS. GATHER THE LEGIONS, WE BURN THEM DOWN TO ASHES.

[@MrChopstsicks]

SALT THE LAND

[@vincentthendean7713]

CARTHAGO DELENDA EST

[@Nordique777]

Scipio....get the salt

[@panzerschliffehohenzollern4863]

@@Nordique777 What do we do with all these greek fire pots catching dust in the warehouses?

[@huntclanhunt9697]

I'LL GET THE SALT!!!!

[@Matt-rd5oy]

How to waste your team : 1: cheat 2: lose 3: getting caught You guys are indeed Total winners... Ah you poor things. Edit : "being immortalized as the best" ok this one pisses me off. Who the hell they think they are ? God I hate people who think they're superior to others, and above all, they cheated so that they could call themeselves like that. I'm sorry to be that pissed but that's the kind of human being I dispise IRL and in games as well... I kinda am sorry to say that but damn it son.

[@bloo6639]

Plo Koon they did.. nobody knows if they cheated or not but they had the crown stripped and the new winner is hungry wolves

[@bloo6639]

Hamish Newton ill stop by to dislike all of them

[@aidanbazarnic9246]

I am on the same page as you. Definitely.

[@514YulJag]

Hamish Newton nobody want to watch your midlife crisis videos.

[@hyperion3145]

@@hamishnewtonimsorryimsosca2171 You're really going to advertise on the comments of someone else's channel? At least make noteworthy content if you want people to notice you.

[@killswitchgaming8048]

As someone who fought them in the first tournament in the first round where me and my friends tried to get them punished in that tournament I am happy to see them finally get what they deserve which is losing and now no longer being “ immortalized as the best” because in my eyes and in many other they were only cheaters nothing more.

[@emmetpbyrne]

You guys played amazingly in that tournament!

[@caledonhockley883]

I think my team played them too

[@ali.warraich8248]

QjccltqVj

[@wamesdjatson7398]

Man more than 10 bloody minutes in and still haven't heard what they actually did, I love you Apollo but GET TO THE POINT. I understand your frustration and everything else you say does need to be said but please next time you need to do something like this tell us about the actual cheating first then go and say what this means for the community etc. If you want to remain unbiased give us the events first and then talk about what they mean to you, so we may draw our own conclusions first before hearing yours.

[@marcomahardika5133]

Man i was so curious abt what cheat did they use because i didn't even know we can cheat in TW, but then apollo just like saying the same thing over and over again everytime i thought he is gonna start explaining, lol

[@mwshiftytoo]

total winners burner account

[@FluffyKittye]

like fuck man get on with it haha

[@HvacHeathen]

let him do his thing g

[@executor5588]

Yes please, I support his message. GET TO THE POINT!

[@curtiswatson4192]

Tobias Bennet will be IMMORTALISED as the BEST and will live rent free in the heads of THOUSANDS

[@JokerFey]

underated Comments

[@Nyx-pf2qb]

And Apollo Constantine will be immortalized WITH the heads of thousands

[@orkinho1]

ON TOP OF THE HEADS Of THOUSANDS YOU MEAN¡¡ oh shit my bad, I confused Tobbias with Apollo the mighty headtaker.

[@ethancarlson1973]

The guy who said that is nothing more than a idiot.

[@pendragon7785]

That's so sad and pathetic. Maybe if they spent more time practicing they would have had a better chance. Totally treat them like Carthage

[@rancor4513]

BURN THEM DOWN?

[@sir_muttonchops7963]

CARTHAGO DELENDA EST!!!!!

[@jasonreagan3904]

@@sir_muttonchops7963 :)

[@pergys6991]

Salt em bois

[@koreancowboy42]

Very pathetic indeed. If I was the team fighting against them, I would've whipped their asses with my two buddies. Baktria, Carthage, Rome, Macedon, Sparta. (Idk what other factions I play, I haven't in awhile). Also these total winners are now total losers. The community atleast took the liberty to expose them. Gaming community needs to up their standards especially not to have garbage peeps like "total winners".

[@SKAM424]

This is handled with so much humility, I would of been far more aggressive so respect to you Apollo. I can't believe the level that real people have gone too. This whole situation is stupid and just outright pathetic. The community comes together to enjoy the tournament and fair play to those who entered and tested there skills and I get you don't want to cover this battle but these guys won a battle against cheaters, that's pretty impressive.

[@EmporerAaron]

Of all the things to do...cheat in a tournament of a game yes you play to win in the campaign but its all fun. You play to have fun and theres the old saying "even in defeat you win" because you learn why you lost and grow from it. I admit I cheat in the campaign in Rome Total War and Medieval 2 Total War just using the money cheat to make big armies and building cheat just to make better units. I just enjoy watching big armies fight it out all for fun. This, this is just disappointing because what was the point of cheating when the tournament is all for fun.

[@ellingtonGaming]

Yup guys. That's pretty much the gist of things. The pull throughs in the match i covered in my video are what led us down this deep dark rabbit hole.sad day :/

[@Naeron66]

Funnily enough when PA said it I thought it was "Dragon Drop" and I was "What? There are Dragon's in R2?".

[@ellingtonGaming]

@@Naeron66 thatd be awesome..... lol

[@jameswg13]

The ref thing was pretty obvious once explained but was the an actual previous ref with that name and they impersonated them or

[@joeonitproductions]

It sucks you had to make a video about this type of behavior in a tournament. Thanks to Ellington for originally finding this information out and passing it around to Apollo and other KZbinrs so the TW will be fully shown as the cheaters and bad sports they are. I feel the community will be better now that they are gone and have been shown with proof to be cheaters and liars.

[@koreancowboy42]

I'm glad they are gone. Ppl like that are the lowest of shits. I don't know when I'll be buying a computer to play total war. Since I want a good running one so I might get a custom built but I really am not good at making my own lol cuz I'll get mind blown if Idk what I'm doing. So I might get just some computer that's good and able to handle steam games. Overall atleast I'm glad Apollo posted this video. Respect to ppl that helped solved this cheating problem. Tournament for "Fun", cheaters thinking they earn something out of it. Me: so they wasted their time just for a title? I rather lose in a good battle struggle than lose to cheating and had planned everything so u win (so embarrassing really).

[@aucklandid4937]

I agree

[@curtiswatson4192]

can we please make 'immortalized as the best living rent free in the heads of thousands' into a meme lmao

[@celticfan3585]

We could make it the name of the next tourney?

[@kubelkampferin1245]

Who would win? Self acclaimed gods among the tournament's, living rent free in the heads of thousands... or some Newbie bois

[@richyhu2042]

If you could have custom unit names, some one should totally make like a "Rent Free Immortals" or "Forever Remembered Headsmen"

[@EliteJax4180]

@@richyhu2042 If we could do that, i'd give them sticks. Better than nothing, right?

[@benjaminmcclelland2464]

So the total winners were immortalized as the biggest scandal in the Rome 2 scene. And the Hungry Wolves are now the best team.

[@Lordchippingtonreal]

"We've been immortalised" OK this guy thinks hes Thanos or some shit.

[@darthbuzz1]

It is inevitable.

[@koreancowboy42]

Sounds stupid. And cringe. Not even epic. "We've been immortalised" Yeah? So? U can't lose or die right?

[@finj3636]

Of COURSE people into R2 would have an immortality-complex ;) Some clowns will do anything to try to achieve something noteworthy, its happened throughout history, like the guy who destroyed the mausoleum at Halicarnassus.

[@Lordchippingtonreal]

Thanks for the replies and im glad for your agreements

[@Lordchippingtonreal]

@@finj3636 i totally agree like these guys think there gods

[@wagusteakfillets3329]

And I would have got away with it to, if it weren’t for those meddling kids! Oh wait, I wouldn’t have anyway

[@ewout2763]

Hamish Newton why are you advertising your channel here? It is completly unrelated....

[@ryanhinrichs7353]

Oogway: “there are no accidents”

[@cosmoantoine4914]

Hiiii

[@comradekenobi6908]

U got that

[@Wildboy789789]

So wise turtle

[@realone4993]

My time has come

[@ryanhinrichs7353]

Panakin Skywalker total winners be like

[@Blueqoose]

Apollo: "I'm trying to be unbiased as possible towards the cheaters." Also Apollo: Completely smashes on the cheaters. Lmao I love you dude.

[@tortureddesert3453]

He didn't actually smash he literally just described what they did in the truest light

[@Blueqoose]

@@tortureddesert3453 And I loved it.

[@niki8280]

You've always been such a nice and trusting guy, apollo. I remember thinking what a kind guy you are during the previous tournament when the rest of us were (in retrospect, rightfully) suspicious of total winners. May you stay equally nice but not as trusting in the future. :)

[@rancor4513]

Appolo: We need to treat the total *losers* like Rome treats carthage Me: *Wait? U want to burn them?*

[@ewout2763]

Rainer Tristan And put salt on their corpses!

[@rubenstaalduinen1765]

throw salt on their fields so they can never harvest again😂

[@racoonnylord4343]

and "Drive salt" into the ground, because that definitely happened and totally wasn't just some medieval guy trying to make Rome look cooler

[@ewout2763]

@@racoonnylord4343 yes. I translated those very sentences myself at school.

[@joshleski4631]

salt their houses!

[@jojostwin2492]

Cheating team: **cheats** Other team: *”omae wa mou shinderu”* Cheating team: *”NANI?”*

[@wendemekrishu293]

Nice horukuto no Ken content

[@comradekenobi6908]

Oh shit it's King Crimson

[@rancor4513]

Total winners bakka

[@rancor4513]

Total winners pendego Éstupido

[@solall-a1409]

You're the best Apollo, dealing with this situation so professionnally, so honestly. Really, that's an honor to be a little part of your community !

[@siaszirthe3334]

What makes this situation even worst is the possibility that some of the members of Total Winners may not have been in the know about the cheating (a very small possibility but is still possible) and as a result, will have their reputations destroyed because of the actions of greedy and selfish people. Also, do not put yourself down Apollo. You and the rest of the TWR2 community had their trust destroyed because of a couple of bad eggs.

[@constantinecondor3470]

Apollo: *explains new way the Total Winners cheated* Me: *Gasp* The plot thickens!

[@ewout2763]

Hamish Newton huh?

[@rancor4513]

@@hamishnewtonimsorryimsosca2171 Nani? Weirdo

[@ellingtonGaming]

Imagine being myself and the other admins as we peeled back layer after layer of this plot >.

[@ellingtonGaming]

Imagine being myself, apollo and the other admins as we peeled back layer after layer of this plot >.

[@gengarpokemon7731]

they cheated the same way as last time and everyone knew it lol

[@johntheknight3062]

Looser starterpack: 1. Name yourself by the most cringe and egoistic name possible. 2. Cheat. 3. Loose with cheats. 4. Act like some kind of legend. I mean how poor soul you must be to do this? Cheating in for fun tournament and acting like some kind fo hero. These guys must be some really sad individuals with no life whatsoever... But their ego is just on the Moon.

[@rancor4513]

Hhhmmmm it's either they just want to win or they have clinical dapression

[@mynamejeb8743]

probably some spoiled 8 y.os

[@johntheknight3062]

@@mynamejeb8743 The sad thing about this is at least their leader is actually adult.

[@johntheknight3062]

@@rancor4513 Or they are just bunch of sad idiots.

[@koreancowboy42]

@@johntheknight3062 ur kidding right?? Teenagers cheating yeah believable but fucking adult? I'm sorry but to play a 6 year old fking game with a large community still playing those games. Really? Ppl have to cheat in a fking total war game??? That's so garbage. They didn't even win which is so fking funny. 1. Using ppl from their own group on the first round. 2. Cheat by having them lose and they advance next round. 3. Cheat by having an admin and another wannabe admin after a miscommunication. 4. They break the rules that's set in a matter of afew mins. 5. Just embarrassing lost their match or matches (also the disconnects) 6. Apollo did his job! :) Posting this video to explain.

[@maddawg9636]

Start watching from 5:00, that's when he starts explaining how they cheated.

[@TokenWhiteGuyAGR]

Try 12:00 instead. Jesus what a long winded intro.

[@maddawg9636]

@@TokenWhiteGuyAGR Yeah i know hahha

[@Euan_Miller43]

Token White Guy it’s an Apollo thing

[@Samuel-xu1jr]

Did i just watch 15 min of this video thinking that it was some type of heavy cheat when it was just pulling a unit thru? Yes i did

[@DeadPxlTV]

Tsk tsk imagine cheating and still lose in a community tournament.

[@koreancowboy42]

Especially cheating on a community event "Tournament for fun"

[@luisalbertosolisvillagomez6986]

You should just ban everything Total cheaters related, they used everything they could to rig the tournament, none of its members should be allowed anywhere near of the community again, disavow them, but also let know the whole community of this team immortalize them as the Total Cheaters they are.

[@ewout2763]

Hamish Newton what?

[@stupidbot7447]

Apollo is too lenient and they took advantage of that.

[@koreancowboy42]

@Mr Culec agreed, I didn't have to watch, I just looked at them.

[@flotnar2512]

They can just come back with different usernames tho. Likely they already have.

[@maning04]

I love how Apollo is so passionate when it comes to the Total War community and all his contents to make his fans happy. That's why I've got a huge respect for this guy! A man who is humble and at the same time very nice to his fans! Something that you rarely see from youtubers

[@ericjustice5742]

Apollo: I don't want to milk this. Twenty minutes later In all seriousness though, some people thrive on power no matter how minuscule that power can be.

[@iclapuyt5582]

Bruh I havent finished the video but who would cheat on a tournament? Imagine having no Honor

[@comradekenobi6908]

*SHAMEFUL DISPLAY*

[@taidsj5631]

It’s another nightmare of tobias’

[@cowmanmooing6624]

⁰

[@realone4993]

SHAMEFUL

[@hyperion3145]

*DEEZ ONA ON YO FAMIRI*

[@quimble2177]

“Live rent free in the heads of thousands” I mean...I guess? I personally don’t even remember their names

[@jackk.7452]

@@hamishnewtonimsorryimsosca2171 no

[@gryphon0468]

Hamish Newton no ones visiting your channel fuckwit.

[@koreancowboy42]

@@hamishnewtonimsorryimsosca2171 ur videos lame. I just looked thru what u have. It looks boring

[@Naeron66]

Exactly. They will live on as "remember those desperate losers who tried to cheat a friendly R2 tournament and lost anyway, it is to laugh"

[@Stinger913]

“We gotta salt the fields”. 😂😂😂

[@Gnoe1337]

12 mins in and I still barely know how they cheated, Christ for someone who doesn't wanna milk it you do seem to be milking it.

[@kubajcz]

@old school gaming thats not an argument against fact that he make the video so long and not explained anything well

[@podomuss]

@@kubajcz I prefer the way he made this video, instead of making it a 10-15 minute one

[@lolbenz]

Total cheaters?? Wasnt that the same in the last tourny?

[@lucacharpagne2067]

It was...

[@lukemadison4550]

I’m so glad they got caught I watched the lat tournament and hungry wolves seemed to play better and those disconnects were just to conveniently timed to be something other than intentional

[@lukemadison4550]

*last

[@roguepotato0559]

Gotta say man, that was a great way to deal with the situation. As least bias as possible and still giving the people info about the situation. Great job and great vid!

[@Justlikeit22]

Never in my life would I expect drama in this channel. Honestly thanks for sharing the dishonest stuff that they did. You learnt and decided to share and in turn we all learned as well. This was decent entertainment to me. Like learning how deep it went. Crazy.

[@Dangelboyd]

I knew there was something fishy about the last tournament! A big thank you to all who got involved in the investigation. A smashing well done to Honey Badgers for winning that game and a round of applause for Apollo for keeping us all in the loop and calling out bullshit. They're living in the heads of thousands alright, but not for the reason they hoped. Onward and upwards!

[@Dangelboyd]

@@deadronin9958 Top man! ;)

[@koreancowboy42]

I wouldve loved to kick their asses.

[@madcow1326]

This tournament is still my favourite event ever on KZbin despite this!

[@madcow1326]

Oof total winners as well!! I thought they were cool

[@stuartastley7549]

bravo to the people of the community who highlighted these issues......Apollo you cant hear and see everything, you handled the situation with maturity and composure, ............so many great players and teams who play with honor .... win or lose ....respect to you all

[@marshaloftheussr8239]

Hi Apollo if your interested we have a 24 team tournament going right now with a lot of new faces and a strong core of teams who quit the original competition due to this and other problems that were present. We have lots of small youtubers that have promised to make videos but your coverage would be much appreciated. The ruleset is almost exactly the same but admins can't play and community votes help solve issues.

[@user-fo5ds1yv2w]

Im sad to hear that this happened i hope in the next tournament it will never happen again

[@avalonnnnnnnnnnnn]

Damn, Total War multiplayer is more complicated than I thought. This is why I enjoy single player.

[@mynamejeb8743]

same 😂

[@AcornSmokes420]

A lot of online games are toxic now I miss 2005 where online was awesome and cool now it’s blah 😒

[@anthonybarnes1903]

@@AcornSmokes420 hell, even gta 5 is kinda annoying, to be honest.

[@xBurzurkurx]

@@AcornSmokes420 I remember seeing 'ONLINE' at the bottom of a PS2 game back in the day and i was blown away

[@AcornSmokes420]

xBurzurkurx I been online since 2002, Xbox live until days gone release and never went back

[@Octavius145]

Man Apollo you are auch a decent guy. Pointing our your own bias, giving everyone the benefit of a doubt, telling the story as objectively as possible, not giving any names and telling everyone to not harass the cheaters. Big thumbs up to you!

[@AshBhang2010]

Im very sorry for you Apollo and others who were adversely affected by this. I know your love and passion for these types of games. Thank you for all your post and passion of history that comes through in your commentaries. Its shocking and disappointing im sure . Human nature can be disgusting when it warps to its ego. Keep your head up my friend. and know that you have so many loyal and loving supporters. Ash . .

[@frenchmonk94]

I'm sorry to hear this happened Apollo. Drama is such a recurring trend, however you want to look at it. I dealt with it plenty of times in M&B community. I'm just glad to see you're dealing with it in a very constructive way.

[@madcow1326]

Your channel has really grown since I last checked it out!

[@frenchmonk94]

@@madcow1326 Apollo's or mine? I'm assuming mine :P Resonant gave me a bunch of shoutouts this year alone. Without him my channel would not have grown much I think xD

[@Wildboy789789]

Total winners is such a troll name too... they r bad people, period, ill say it, they dont care about the community or other players

[@koreancowboy42]

They even use ppl from their group to win the first round. And use ppl on the inside. How fucking sad, that they planned it all out and lost. That's some very extensive cheating I ever seen on a fking TOTAL WAR GAME!?!? Shooter community be like "These idiots suck!"

[@99IronDuke]

I remember a great many people calling 'Total Winners' total cheaters in the last tournament. Seems it was well deserved. @Pixelated Apollo all the teams related to 'Total Winners' should be banned.

[@draydenhill2558]

Were the Total Winners the siege tower glitch guys? Cuz I remember that, and when Apollo put it up to a poll there was this huge boom in the poll that everybody was pretty sure was bots.

[@caledonhockley883]

Drayden Hill my team played them and they done that in the first round. We lost because of it🙁

[@pcbros8671]

Apollo, thank you SO MUCH for uploading new Rome 2 content. Rome 2 is my favorite total war, and I feel like it deserves more attention...

[@robwisniewski7490]

Well this is very upsetting. I heard the rumor about TW Academy last night by Ellington. So now what? My team is Veni, Vedi, Vici and we played TW Academy in the first round. And I'm sure as you know what it was the same ref. Cause he threatened to end the match for nonsense several times. I know we can't go back in time. But I think we, at least, deserve a spot in the next tourney.

[@DraconisSmith]

All we can do is either restart, or wait for the next time bud. Sorry for the inconvenience.

[@robwisniewski7490]

@@DraconisSmith My team deserves a fair match

[@braydenjames4419]

@@DraconisSmith I've never played TW but I've watched enough of Apollo's videos to know that if you are a part of Apollo's tourney admins you should let this team into the next tournament, that is absolutely what Apollo would do. I know there is no prize for winning the tourney but the team was robbed of a good time, that is as long as the Total Winners Academy was in fact also cheating. Please keep this in mind

[@robwisniewski7490]

@@braydenjames4419 Thanks! Just want a fair one for my boys.

[@koreancowboy42]

Which is why u never do matches with those losers. TW academy for cheaters. They only care about winning and their reputation (which is now Academy of cheats) that's the name I'd give them

[@madcow1326]

I want the honey Badgers to win now

[@Idontknow-yj8ps]

Mee to

[@madcow1326]

@@deadronin9958 np you also have a cool team name

[@Idontknow-yj8ps]

When are you playeing the next Time

[@Idontknow-yj8ps]

I would love to watch it

[@Idontknow-yj8ps]

Ok nice good luck to you and yor team of course

[@yeoldegunporn]

Awesome video. Thank you for being transparent. Why i've been watching your vids for years.

[@010Flappie]

I lost my intrest after a few minutes. Still didnt had a clue what happened

[@antred11]

He really needs to stop babbling on and on and just get to the frickin' point already!

[@scariestrobin8647]

I can’t believe the Total Winners did that.

[@marshaloftheussr8239]

You obviously haven't been on the discord server, these people were being toxic and changing rules during the first 2 rounds of the tournament. The cheating actually annoyed me less than their attitude towards the community.

[@jacquesmouton1339]

@@marshaloftheussr8239 Don't lump the actions of a few toxic individuals with an entire community.

[@niki8280]

I can. They already did cheat in the previous one.

[@marshaloftheussr8239]

@@jacquesmouton1339 I'm not, I'm saying they had an awful attitude towards the community, I'm one of the team leaders I know a lot of people who quit because them.

[@jacquesmouton1339]

@@marshaloftheussr8239 You should see how many of them quit because of it as well.

[@MarioFlores-ni3kj]

DC’ing means to disconnect.

[@jorgeantelo1351]

Thank u, 9/10 I dont get those references

[@UchronianKing]

I understand Apollo's reason for uploading this video: it's a lesson to all would-be cheaters. How very sad that gamers feel the need to cheat and gain false attainment. For one thing, it isn't nearly as fulfilling as gaining a true victory, by verve of skill and hours of effort and self-discipline to improve strategies. We all like to win, of course, in any academic or sporting event. But I'd sooner enjoy the game itself, whether the outcome is to win honestly, or to lose graciously, and in whichever result there's a certain nobility. I've been in multiplayer matches where obviously some gamers used cheats to 'hide' in the scenery, God-mode, or whatever annoying tech trickery they employ - and all just to get high kill scores. Admittedly, I'm not the best of gamers, but still enjoy the experience, win or lose. There have been times when my own incompetence during gaming gets the better of my temper (you know, we've all done the exasperated 'GRRRR!'), a recent example is when I was playing GTA IV and got killed half a dozen times during certain missions. Reloading from Niko's mobile phone meant losing money I had to pay at the hospital, $3000 to $4000 dollars worth! But I persevered and, in the end, patted myself on the back for doing so without losing too much money. This is one reason why I prefer to go back and save at the safehouse (excuse the pun) between missions, so I don't lose money by reloading from the actual menu. Back to the issue on cheating, a teacher at school once said: 'If you cheat, you cheat yourself'. He meant that cheaters, during an exam or a test, don't earn their result by hard work and learning from mistakes, which is a very important part of life, and to try again, another important lesson in life. I'm in complete agreement with the banishment process. We don't need dishonest fans of Rome 2 to spoil what should be casual, honest fun.

[@charleniumsarcade3825]

It's very unfortunate that this was occurring. I was involved in the round 1 incident that started the speculation that foul play was involved. Teams just gave up and dropped out of tourn due to the non sense that said player of Total Winners and their impact cost many teams away from the community.

[@akashghosh7068]

Apollo for President. Nice to see the transparency.

[@adriannazaruk9572]

Apollo must feel so let down by these guys. Love the totalwar tornements keep going apollo it's not your bad. some people are just wired wrong.

[@realone4993]

@@hamishnewtonimsorryimsosca2171 dude stop

[@hyperion3145]

@@realone4993 Report his comments as spam, because that's what they are

[@TheHardCore89]

Please make a parallel video where you go: “Ha!.. this guy.. and, you know.. ha! And this crazy guy..”🤣🤣🤣

[@andreytishechkin4533]

Beginning of video: Apollo says he won't make drama. End of Video: Apollo just made a ton of drama !

[@user-rn5yp9lm5c]

Hey Apollo. Even though I don't have a PC nor total war you make me feel part of the community. :)

[@amjadtiseker1481]

you are part of the community :)

[@user-rn5yp9lm5c]

Thanks :)

[@JaehaerysTheConciliator]

“Hail Apollo the wise.”

[@matthewmcquistion8639]

Love your content man

[@samreynolds2880]

Appreciate the transparency Apollo! Clap for you sir.

[@ecthelionnoldo876]

When the next shield wall episode the added a new really hard battle and it is so much fun

[@realone4993]

Honestly this is shameful to hear. It is disgraceful that someone would cheat like this.

[@Chris-hq7mb]

You are such a nice guy apollo. I like that you are always trying to see the best in others.

[@wdxawwacawc6910]

I’ve never played on any of Apollo’s teams or in any of the discord’s other anything but this seems insane right, like the knights of Apollo seem like a really nice gaming community and like understanding that people have outside lives aswell.

[@ritaDas-xl4kz]

I like the tournament and cheating is something they did but still lost just means that if you do cheating the tournament hates you and god does too....

[@delanovanraalte3186]

I dont think god exist

[@ritaDas-xl4kz]

@@delanovanraalte3186 But in mine god does..

[@koreancowboy42]

More like community just kicked their ass. Which shows ppl actually care about the community and Apollo.

[@Jordan-cs6bn]

You created a fun event for the community to enjoy and they pretty much pissed on it because they wanted to boost their ego

[@patricksmall3413]

So I don’t know how old this video is, I started watching Apollo because I love military history and I don’t have this game. But I am very impressed by the way he handles this. Well done sir!

[@997ET]

"salt the fields and erase their history" damn that's powerful

[@josephverlander8067]

Your videos are amazing keep up the Good work also might be nice to get some more third age total war reforged

[@misterd5159]

Hey, I’m pretty new in the tournament thing But through the whole video I got 2 questions in my mind : 1. what are these rules that they wanted in their favor ? You mention it multiple times but won’t tell us ( like specific strategies not allowed ? Or this or that unit banned ? ) 2. How many refs are there in a game like this in a tournament ? Because for me having a ref in a game like this for the purpose of overlooking the game has no real influence in the game or am I wrong ?

[@erenrager6679]

Well, I dunno about your first question. But the second about the referee is quite important. Even if they don't have a direct influence in the game, it is useful to have things be witnessed in realtime just in case.

[@draydenhill2558]

Well spoken, Apollo. If they want to live rent free in the heads of thousands, they're welcome to-- as cheaters and sore losers. This reminds me of the last tournament with the siege tower glitch, I can't remember who it was. Thank you for staying honorable and always giving new life to such old and beloved games

[@xBurzurkurx]

"Why would he do this for such a small little tournament thats supposed to be for fun" Ohhhh boy I'm glad you got your answer to that cause I know I have from people in my life. Its never too small if the person is smaller.

[@Firemanboth]

Appears a lot of people dont know what "DC"/Deecee stands for. It means "Disconnected". Term is usually used when your internet connection gets messy and you are forcefully Disconnected from whatever it is that you are doing. Normally, people dont have control over that. But, some people can pretend to DC, so that they are removed from a game (like this situation). When you DC in a tournament, it is generally in good faith and both teams can restart the match. If one team DC's, it ends the match (more or less) and it will be an auto win for the otherside. Seems like when Total Winners was getting their asses kicked in the tournament and in previous tournaments, they would intentionally "DC" and say "oops, looks like we gotta restart the match". Sore losers do that, and that is called cheating.

[@koreancowboy42]

It is cheating. unless for example both teams are holding choke points and then someone DCs. (No one's losing) and they say "my internet got shut down or my computer just disconnected me cuz of lag or so? For me and my team we would've called it a draw or lost for us cuz it depends on how honest the teams are gonna be. If me and my team is losing and we actually (actually) get dc then we might call it a lost, but if we are still in a fighting struggle and not losing and we dc, we can probably see if the other team wants to call it a draw til next time? Idk how tournaments work when it's a draw .... Or something?

[@tusvideossonvergonzosos8824]

I love the drama haha... I missed total war you seem to stop uploading it.. for me I just don't like the other game your playing...but who am I to say what you should upload.. wish you the best man..

[@yogiromba6516]

i'm not a player of total war but i just love it to watch you guys played and then i got to this video

[@Alientcp]

So, in order to join tournaments, aside from the base game and team (which i dont have), do i need specific dlcs? I just play the campaign from time to time.

[@ARMOREDSCARUB]

22:00 actually, funny enough, i think all the teams with admins in them (except total winners) were outed in the first round.

[@Dangelboyd]

@@deadronin9958 We can still make a cheeky casual game ;)

[@ryanbarron5696]

This is just sad....

[@Sozick_]

You are very quickly becoming my all time favourite youtuber!

[@crazehcakes]

"We have been immortalized" Bro I can't even remember half the teams I played football against. You really think these people are going to remember one team from a video game?