MHR Sunbreak: The 5 Best Endgame GreatSword Builds

[@Magmyte]

Context: I was replying to someone asking about elemental GS being meta-worthy. The following is my response. It isn't enough to only look at raw and element, you also have to take into consideration the sharpness (with and without Handicraft) and deco slots. Take Garangolm, for example. 360 raw with no element and 4-2-1 deco slots. But with no Handicraft, it has blue sharpness (a 1.20x raw multiplier) and it looks like you need Handicraft 3 to get a smidgen of white sharpness (a 1.32x raw multiplier, 10% more than blue). When you compare the modified raw values (360 x 1.20 = 432, 360 x 1.32 = 475.2) to those of the ones shown in the video (350 x 1.39 = 486.5), it becomes evident why Garangolm wasn't chosen, and this raw differential increases the more attack increases you have (Attack Boost, Demondrug, etc.) You can extend that logic to any GS that can't hit purple sharpness. Another example, Tigrex. 350 raw, no element, innate purple sharpness, -15% affinity. But it also only has a 1 deco slot, so you have to ask yourself if you're willing to "waste" the Handicraft levels shown in the above armor sets and give up a level of something like Attack Boost for this weapon. That being said, if you're running a set that does not run Handicraft, this is honestly a fine weapon to choose if you sharpen it frequently enough. Looking at the MVs for GS in MHR, if the patch notes aren't lying to me, the elemental multipliers are not changed from base game. For the sake of making the math a little simpler, let's say you have 500 raw after sharpness and also 30 element. A fully charged TCS (power) has an MV of 264 on its second hit and the element multiplier is 1.80. Let's also be generous with the HZs and say it's 60 sever and 25 element. The amount of physical damage you'll do, after a 1.40x crit, is 500 x 2.64 x 1.40 x 0.60 = 1108.8 sever. The elemental damage will be 30 x 1.80 x 0.25 = 13.5 element. As you can see, that 13.5 element makes up barely over 1.2% of the 1122.3 damage you just dealt to the monster. Element GS builds are for Surge Combo/Leaping Wide Slash builds, since those are multiple fast hits with better element/status multipliers in their MVs. But when you can Strongarm Stance to get a 35% bonus damage buff on your next Charged Slash, it totally blows element and status GS builds out of the water in terms of raw performance (pun unintended). It just so happens that the weapons TDS chose here have element on them because the weapons they're attached to have good raw, sharpness, deco slots, and manageable affinity.

[@smurphy55656]

I mean even if elemental greatsword is still not viable imma still make one for the memes because of surge slash combo

[@mhveteranex4303]

What is the best gs in sunbreak raw gs?

[@mhveteranex4303]

With the Qurio skill

[@wazukyan3058]

@@mhveteranex4303 Here is a build I came up with with the Dereliction Skill...: I runned the numbers and its possible to get around 956,54 Raw Dammage... Weapon: "Fine Kamura Cleaver" Head: "Archfiend Armor Cerato" Torso: "Archfiend Armor Baulo" Arms: "Archfiend Armor Epine" Waist: "Rathalos Coil X" Legs: "Archfiend Armor Sceros" And a 2-2-0 Talisman with either a lvl 2 or 3 Slot Skill (just lvl 1) Talismans (I have it in case you have a Crit eye 1 Talis with 2-2-0): 5x Attack Boost, 1x Weakness Exploit, 2x Critical Boost, 3x Offensive Guard, 1x Critical Eye, 1x Wirebug Whispererer this will net you: Attack Boost Level 7 Resentment Level 5 Weaknes Exploint Level 3 Offensive Guard Level 3 Critical Boost Level 3 Dereliction Level 3 Windproof Level 3 Crit Eye Level 3 Chain Crit Level 1 AND 4 Level 4 Slots to mess around with in the future! But now lets run the numbers: 330 (On Weapon) +10 (Attack Boost) +25 (Resentment) +5 (Chain Crit) +30 (Dereliction) =400 Boosters: x1.1 (Attack) x1.15 (Offensive Guard) x1.39 (Purple Sharpness) x1.36 (90% Affinity w/ 3 Boost) (90% due to Rousing roar, I put it in because its basically always up with 2 cats and still good with only 1 cat) and... 956.54 RAW Dammage. Hope you guys like it. I didnt bother with the speedrunner boosts like Demon Drug etc. Maybe go over it and change stuff if you want but im confident that its one of the higher damage builds Right now :3

[@mhveteranex4303]

@@wazukyan3058 amazing thank you but my crit eye charms are so trash rip I have a charm with 2 weakness exploit but only one level 1 slot

[@thomasfowler13]

Can we have something like this for every weapon, I know that would take a long time to do but it would be really helpful. Thanks :)

[@Rose-85]

Would be real handy for me with SnS and Gunlance

[@sticklyboi]

would be nice

[@qwsxedcrfv]

Please! It’s so hard to find perfect builds for gunlance out there, and having a comprehensive damage calculation for it would be great!

[@modageddon2742]

Doubt it tbh i dont think the whole team spans every weapon

[@Hekk.]

That would be awesome ngl

[@SissypheanCatboy]

I can't be the only one who finds it so funny that the jyuratodus greatsword, of anything, is one of the best pure damage greatsword options in the entire game? That is amazing.

[@Iniwid]

I complained /so/ much to my friends about how a lot of interesting, unique, or funny weapons in base Rise were sadly lackluster because they stopped at like Rare 5 or 6, so I was absolutely pogged out of my gourd when I saw that pretty much all trees get to Rare 10 in Sunbreak

[@kylele23]

Ye, it’s the same mind blowing revelation back in base world when the great jagras gs was the best by a slight amount mathematically.

[@KingDick4711]

I wouldn't be caught dead using something so hideous though lol.

[@spinomania1921]

@@Iniwid rampage tree cries in the corner

[@IDONTKNOW-s7b]

@@spinomania1921 GOOD

[@Jubbinn]

the addition to strongarm stance to GS is the best thing ever. i love seeing the huge numbers and pulling off hunts in short amount of time is satisfying.

[@DavDav2233_]

Yeah kinda reminds me of valor gs from mhgu. Was my favorite Version of gs till sunbreak

[@Bnoopy]

I made some timestamps because I think this is a fantastic video that I'll be coming back to quite a few times. Feel free to add them to the description if you want. 0:00 Introduction 0:50 Switch Skills for GS 1:31 The Three Max Damage Builds (Anja/Jyu/Goss GS) 4:39 Comfy Damage Build (Furious Rajang GS) 5:55 Full Comfy Build 6:55 Comparison of All Five Builds 7:47 Conclusion

[@literalidiotiguess5688]

Person who hasnt finished sunbreak here. I love your thumbnails for weapon builds because it has absolutely zero spoilers for newer players yet interests veterans so much. Also obligatory “a GREATSWORD build that ISN’T raw damage?”

[@17deluxe51]

Team Darkside: Elemental Greatsword is viable now? Garangolm: Always has been.

[@maggie6152]

Yup. I had to block RageGamingVideos because their thumbnails of late game content they had access to early were so filled with spoilers.

[@notadrawer7261]

@@maggie6152 Well they ain't called RAGEGAMINGVideos for nothing. Hehe, alright I'll leave.

[@sticklyboi]

why do people care about spoilers so much

[@bizarrelygreen5177]

@@sticklyboi Because they want to experience the game fully for themselves first? Watching how the game unfolds for the first time is a very worthwhile experience. I don't usually mind spoilers myself, but for games that I actually look forward to, I don't like spoilers. Honkai Impact is one example of this for me. I love the game and the story, but since KZbin is filled with content creators giving spoilers in their title or thumbnail, when I get to a certain part in the story it feels lacking.

[@afloatcashew6828]

Just tried the goss set out and my first hunt I tried against an astalos and got sub 6 minutes, I'm a pretty casual player so that's actually insane for me. Thanks TDS!

[@ravekidd69]

How are you getting all the skills on the goss set? Theres one one slot missing for a brace jewel so you lose flinch free. Or another one slot skill.

[@gabgalla7403]

Nice job dude!

[@KeshavKrishnan]

@@ravekidd69 they added a note in the description, without a 221 charm it isn;t possible to have flinch free

[@jumpkicking]

Regarding the Squire's Belt, the "squire" set is unlocked specifically with the two quests: "An Audience With The Queen" and "Flicker In The Night". Chichae: Follower Collab Quests > Follower Quests. The two quests are unlocked by talking to Dame beside the admiral. This guide does a good job telling us that two follower quests are required, both we are accompanied by Dame and even hovers over the specific two. I've still had friends ask me after I linked them this for their GS builds and I figured it's a few details not super clarified, although I will say this video did a good enough job and was apt. I'm not going to say people are stupid ect... that's not truly fair, but these details are hard to miss unless you care about these quests ect or are glossing over the video. Funnily enough it can be hard to get a good answer on some niche info regarding any game, even in 2022 when the internet is at an all time peak. Maybe other people posted the exact same thing, that's fine, I'm not doing it for likes ect. I just felt a bit compelled to say this in case people get stuck.

[@darksavior1187]

Love it, this is great! Thank you for making such a variety of builds. 3 optimal damage with elemental options, a hybrid comfy-damage, and a full comfy. This is so good and exactly what I was looking for, because the difference in EFR sometimes isn't so much higher that its worth sacrificing the comfort.

[@VincentJ73]

As a long time GS main i am so happy it got so much love in sunbreak

[@jamestdfm]

It got the counter love, and that is the best kind of love in mh, take a look at switch axe and that juicy wirebug counter, ls and the one billion counters, gs now of course with a multifunctional counter that can do both lvl 3 regular and lvl 3 trucharge slash immediately, as a hammer main I wish we got a better counter follow up to water strike

[@Miguelpulga]

This is a great video, really apreciate how you guys explaing the build and the graphics you show are really useful! Hope you can do a similar video but with the different elemental Long Sword builds!

[@abel_36]

I was hoping for a Surge Slash GS build for a hit second there haha I really love a vid on that, even if it's just for fun

[@t1r1g0n]

Would love that too. I play MH since 2005 and I never liked GS. I get that Strongarm Stance is more optimal and better damage, but I still don't like it. But with Surge Slash I have a blast and it's really fun to play imho. So some builds for this play style would be cool. I mean the skills are probably mostly the same (Expert, WEX, Crit boost), but I wonder for exampley if focus is worth it for Surge Slash or if you hit fast enough for Chain Crit to be used, etc.

[@NoxMonstrum]

@@t1r1g0n Yeah the Strongarm playstyle is really fucking boring. Surge Slash allows you to keep DPS up instead of just sitting there charging constantly so you feel more active and you're still cranking out damage.

[@Siturba]

Just can't imagine how godlike we will be with the next endgame builds with title updates

[@folkerputt3781]

I am LS Main … now i will try GS… This Video help me very much!!

[@mrdonkeyy1149]

I’ve never used great sword at all before so I decided to make Anjanath, Goss, and Jyuratodus set and oh my gosh I can say it’s the best thing I’ve ever used same goes for my friend. We went from Long sword mains to GS mains due to the high DPS and now we get around sub 4 to 5 minutes each hunt thank you TDS!

[@oblividude123]

Surprised you didn't mention the Kamura sword for being a comfy build option too. Decent raw, good amount of purple...plus a 4 slot and 2 slot...and a 2 slot rampage.

[@artival22]

I also really like the Chameleos one. I haven’t unlocked the last one yet but the rarity 9 one has 310 raw, purple sharpness, a 4 slot and two 1 slots plus a 2 rampage slot And the 78 poison on top are nice as well for some monsters

[@joserene-t5z]

We can now have multiple greatsword builds with different elements. I feel like I just fell to an alternate reality

[@andri7037]

couldn't you do that before too though?

[@KaijuCouture]

I really love you guys. You have done so much for monster hunter and it's fans, i seriously am grateful for a consistent and accurate info source

[@RudeSaiyan]

been working on getting full malzeno for my greatsword build. super happy to see it listed here as "full comfy" because that's exactly how I like to play solo.

[@DonKarasuYT]

I was wondering about the Fine Kamura Cleaver which was mentioned in RGV's Video as the quote on quote mathematically best GS for Sunbreak.

[@Logank192]

Fantastic video, thank you for the detailed explanation with multiple options. It's also kind of funny that focus is no longer a mandatory skill and is actually detrimental if you want to go pure Strongarm.

[@hoov67]

Rise was my first MH game and I exclusively played longsword. For sunbreak I wanted to try something new and started using Greatsword. I have not touched longsword since.

[@iAmMuu]

I think the diablos greatsword should get a mention, being the strongest GS in the game (at white shrpness its beats out the 350 GSes at purple) assuming equal affinity 370*1.32 > 350*1.39 and the same stays true after we account for power talon+charm; 385*1.32 > 365*1.39 now the diablos GS has -25 affinity and no decoration slots, which is worse than all of the listed candidates - but we can make up for this with maximum might (MM). I haven't done any testing to see how viable MM is with shoulder bash -> TCS, but Hysteria/Strongarm Stance does not consume any stamina to use. taking this into account the following set is possible to get the diablos GS up to 100 affinity in rousing roar: (with the same 2/2/- charm used in the video) Critical EyeLv7 Attack BoostLv4 Weakness ExploitLv3 Critical BoostLv3 Offensive GuardLv3 Stun ResistanceLv3 Maximum MightLv2 Flinch FreeLv1 Wirebug WhispererLv1 Quick SheatheLv1 With 2 points of MM we are left at 85 affinity this will out-EFR both AB4 sets slightly (both in and out of rousing roar), but will fall short of the Goss' AB5 set. However, at AB5, the diablos GS will be stronger than the Goss GS. The point I am trying to make is that affinity can only scale up to 100, which means higher raw*sharpness values become more important. Sure you can build a set with more EFR fiending skills for the other weapons since the 350 raw GSes have slots, but I think the humble horn on a stick deserves some love too :)

[@Magmyte]

You absolutely want purple sharpness. Comparing 370 white with 350 purple, the two break even just above +27 raw (397 x 1.32 = 524.04, 377 x 1.39 = 524.03), and that's genuinely not a difficult number to reach. If we combine Powercharm +6, Powertalon +9, Demondrug +5, and Attack Boost 4 +7, that's already +27 raw, and if we add anything like Dango Booster, Might Seed, Demon Powder, Spiribirds, Resentment, Chain Crit, etc., 350 with purple sharpness comes out ahead in pure raw attack.

[@coolgabe555]

@@Magmyte takes a bit of work to get handicraft to the point it gets purple sharpness and decent affinity. It can work but you need a really good charm to make it 100% effective. Blade of Tartarus might be an easier alternative though same handicraft issue but the affinity is better and you don't lose much raw.

[@coolgabe555]

Forgot tigrex sword existed for a second with the free purple and high raw.

[@Magmyte]

@@coolgabe555 When you slot in five levels of Handicraft to get a comfortable amount of purple, you're also paying the opportunity cost of other skills that could've been slotted in instead. Also, 3 slots don't come easy, especially when Offensive Guard is also competing for them. As an addendum, -25% affinity is really not optimal. The magic number here is 70% affinity, and Critical Eye 7 + WEX 3 brings -25% to 65% affinity, which is just short, which costs another deco slot. So yes, I'd much more readily recommend the Tigrex and bone GSs before I recommend Diablos.

[@coolgabe555]

@@Magmyte yea it has some problems and it's not really worth the opportunity cost If your playing optimally. I could see some funny builds going max atk for the fun of it though with any skill that boosts atk just to see how high the number goes though.

[@aaronkiwifruit]

Cool armour sets, one thing that I think could make these armor set videos even better would be a brief mention of which skills are "mandatory" "nice to have" "unexpectedly useful" or something like that, so it's easier to go about making our own custom armour sets

[@lpeter722]

The beauty and majesty of greatsword masters in perfect synchronicity

[@huntersnyder4358]

The beauty of being able to customize this as much as you can is that you can accommodate many playstyles. This video shows a few different types of builds that compliment vastly different playstyles, and that’s why I enjoy it.

[@kmmja]

あなた達の動画で大剣を凄く使ってみたくなりました。一撃のダメージが大きい武器は魅力があっていいですね✨

[@bellystraw]

Great to see the Anja greatsword be meta. The design is just so good

[@wazukyan3058]

Here is a build I came up with with the Dereliction Skill...: I runned the numbers and its possible to get around 956,54 Raw Dammage... Weapon: "Fine Kamura Cleaver" Head: "Archfiend Armor Cerato" Torso: "Archfiend Armor Baulo" Arms: "Archfiend Armor Epine" Waist: "Rathalos Coil X" Legs: "Archfiend Armor Sceros" And a 2-2-0 Talisman with either a lvl 2 or 3 Slot Skill (just lvl 1) Talismans (I have it in case you have a Crit eye 1 Talis with 2-2-0): 5x Attack Boost, 1x Weakness Exploit, 2x Critical Boost, 3x Offensive Guard, 1x Critical Eye, 1x Wirebug Whispererer this will net you: Attack Boost Level 7 Resentment Level 5 Weaknes Exploint Level 3 Offensive Guard Level 3 Critical Boost Level 3 Dereliction Level 3 Windproof Level 3 Crit Eye Level 3 Chain Crit Level 1 AND 4 Level 4 Slots to mess around with in the future! But now lets run the numbers: 330 (On Weapon) +10 (Attack Boost) +25 (Resentment) +5 (Chain Crit) +30 (Dereliction) =400 Boosters: x1.1 (Attack) x1.15 (Offensive Guard) x1.39 (Purple Sharpness) x1.36 (90% Affinity w/ 3 Boost) (90% due to Rousing roar, I put it in because its basically always up with 2 cats and still good with only 1 cat) and... 956.54 RAW Dammage. Hope you guys like it. I didnt bother with the speedrunner boosts like Demon Drug etc. Maybe go over it and change stuff if you want but im confident that its one of the higher damage builds Right now :3

[@Womeï744]

I follow you since MG Gen, i watched every video since then.... And i wasn't subscribe ! So here a little word , you guys are absolute madman on this game, your video are arguably the best quality you can find on monster hunter game. You get me into "speedrunning" , and in the end , i got fairly good time on several monster in MH word and MH rise. The only things i could ask , is some speedrunning on least used weapon , like deus used to do on HH in iceborn. Love you guys, keep the good work , like you always do!

[@ultraguardiansev465]

I made a shagaru gs crit build. It gets me through all the hunts that I go on. I’ve tried making other builds, but I love crit builds and always end up using them.

[@prohanta9360]

i'm greatsword player and currently using insect glaive for the first time, i wish you can make guide for insect glaive since it's kinda rare to find optimal build for it since the weapon imo is fun to use and probably the ony aerial weapon we have

[@nagilull]

これから大剣を使い始めようと思っていたので、こういう動画はありがたいです！すごく分かりやすかったです。

[@tylerthomas9113]

TDS using 4 true charge slash at the same time hitting the same monster in the same location, I'm just in awe.

[@MrYuske1985]

Yes it would be very helpful on what you can give and very thankful for your efforts and hard work. Very top notch elite content.

[@sanrok2]

I just watched the first GS video. Talk about perfect timing!

[@Marlixart]

It's awesome that we have so much build variaty in SB. I personally will use the Scorned Mangna GS bc it looks awesome and a high damage build with Bloodrite 2.

[@felixfestering]

Thankyou for this video! I just grinded for the shagaru greatsword because my ape brain just saw OH OOGA BOOGA 45% AFFINITY and wanted it, then didn't have a good build for it and was disappointed. Now I can put this really cool looking weapon to good use.

[@veliamomo6561]

These element great sword are actually OP

[@ncrypted1690]

I went for full Malzeno, maximum Comfy(low dmg) build. Decoration for Quick sheath 3, stun resist 3, free meal 3, wide range 5, Defense up 5 and quick eating 3 on the charm(with decoration). Quick sheath for longsword so there is adaption possible.

[@fishnutz5196]

Iv been loving the full set builds like Malzeno, Shagaru, Giasmagorm and Valstrax

[@gangaloosii4046]

Please do Hammer Builds, looking high and low and there’s no love for such a great weapon 🥲

[@goosenoosegaming3868]

I’ve been running a pretty solid and optimized build with the Kamura GS. I’ll definitely have to give these a try!

[@n4n196]

Kamura is so good tho.

[@DoortoTwilight777]

"Always be nice to others online" But what if they ruin my wake up hit? "Don't worry, there's a special place in Hell for them!"

[@seandomalaon4538]

surprised that this got released before the ls builds

[@Daedricsoulslayer]

May the Gods bless y'all daily! This is an amazing break down

[@superhyperultramegaxplus]

haha i was just called out for wanting to play optimally with some new friends i met in town. most def sending them this video

[@chrono_s9699]

Can't wait for the longsword builds

[@ヤミ-n7w]

いつもわかりやすい説明ありがとうございます！参考にしてみようと思います！

[@BetaNights]

So if I'm new to GS (been dabbling with it in Generations recently, but otherwise only ever for hit-and-run cheese in older games like 4U), how much of a difference is there between the last two builds, particularly if I'm not using Rousing Roar? (I tend to bring Gathering Cats, or a Gathering + Palamute.) I like the idea of the Max Comfy build (and the Shagaru GS looks really slick), but I'm also pretty sure BR1 will be just fine once I start getting the hang of the weapon. I feel like Dragon is a better general use element, but this is GS we're talking about, so... yeah lol ;; But I also don't know if I wanna farm for a Furious Mantle xD

[@MrMTJensen]

Please do a breakdown like this for the other weapons!! This has helped me drastically with Greatsword!

[@aidenmatsumoto-anderson4104]

Love the comfy-damage build! Rlly fun to play with :)

[@gosucab944]

went for the Vadel Frostedge on my Comfy Damage build instead. I feel like the single lv 2 slot and the added sharpness from the Rajang GS isn't worth considering you are losing the Rampage Deco slot for the anti-X decorations. GS Isn't that Sharpness hungry that would make me consider needing more sharpness. Not even for a comfy set.

[@tikurai4970]

So.. is this only for DB and GS or is Elemental Dmg "meta-worthy" again? (Maybe its just "random", that those best weapons have elemental dmg too, so I am just dumb - but would like to know, if ele-dmg is good in sb or not) Since in my experiences in World/Iceborne elemental damage was simply not good at all, not worth it to go with it, since pure raw dmg was the better choice. And in base Rise that was the same or even "worse", so that raw dmg (again) was the best choice by far. Does that got changed that much? Hoping for good answers :)

[@allenzou5590]

I have the same question

[@Magmyte]

It isn't enough to only look at raw and element, you also have to take into consideration the sharpness (with and without Handicraft) and deco slots. Take Garangolm, for example. 360 raw with no element and 4-2-1 deco slots. But with no Handicraft, it has blue sharpness (a 1.20x raw multiplier) and it looks like you need Handicraft 3 to get a smidgen of white sharpness (a 1.32x raw multiplier, 10% more than blue). When you compare the modified raw values (360 x 1.20 = 432, 360 x 1.32 = 475.2) to those of the ones shown in the video (350 x 1.39 = 486.5), it becomes evident why Garangolm wasn't chosen, and this raw differential increases the more attack increases you have (Attack Boost, Demondrug, etc.) You can extend that logic to any GS that can't hit purple sharpness. Another example, Tigrex. 350 raw, no element, innate purple sharpness, -15% affinity. But it also only has a 1 deco slot, so you have to ask yourself if you're willing to "waste" the Handicraft levels shown in the above armor sets and give up a level of something like Attack Boost for this weapon. That being said, if you're running a set that does not run Handicraft, this is honestly a fine weapon to choose if you sharpen it frequently enough. Looking at the MVs for GS in MHR, if the patch notes aren't lying to me, the elemental multipliers are not changed from base game. For the sake of making the math a little simpler, let's say you have 500 raw after sharpness and also 30 element. A fully charged TCS (power) has an MV of 264 on its second hit and the element multiplier is 1.80. Let's also be generous with the HZs and say it's 60 sever and 25 element. The amount of physical damage you'll do, after a 1.40x crit, is 500 x 2.64 x 1.40 x 0.60 = 1108.8 sever. The elemental damage will be 30 x 1.80 x 0.25 = 13.5 element. As you can see, that 13.5 element makes up barely over 1.2% of the 1122.3 damage you just dealt to the monster. Element GS builds are for Surge Combo/Leaping Wide Slash builds, since those are multiple fast hits with better element/status multipliers in their MVs. But when you can Strongarm Stance to get a 35% bonus damage buff on your next Charged Slash, it totally blows element and status GS builds out of the water in terms of raw performance (pun unintended). It just so happens that the weapons TDS chose here have element on them because the weapons they're attached to have good raw, sharpness, deco slots, and manageable affinity.

[@tikurai4970]

@@Magmyte Sorry for not being clear enough there. My question wasn't only about GS. It was more like "is elemental worth it now (at some weapons) where it was not before. since with sunbreak elemental dmg got buffed at least a little bit. I know its more useful, if the weapon does many and fast hits, like DB for example. So maybe its ok or good for LS now but for my Hammer as example not? xd But thanks for that really good answer!

[@Magmyte]

@@tikurai4970 Mild disclaimer: Of the ~1000 hunts I have in World, about 666 of them are with GS, and every single one of the 400+ hunts I have in Rise is with the GS. I don't know what the MVs and element multipliers are like for other weapons, but it's reasonable enough to assume that with the way elements/statuses are applied to weapon hits (a flat amount times the element multiplier on every hit), weapons that hit fast or many times will naturally want more element than weapons that are slower. That's why raw DB and Bow builds in World/IB were severely outclassed by elemental weakness builds, and building for element on something like Hammer or GS only gave tiny returns, and I don't think that's changed much in Rise/SB. If Sacred Sheath is the way to play LS at the moment, with the three hit high damage attack, it's likely LS will also be dominated by raw. For other weapons that are in between, I believe it's a case-by-case basis. I recall Kjarr Ice CB SAED style being insane against a monster like Diablos with high ice HZs across the body, because the phials did ice damage, but even though Zinogre had a "three star" weakness to ice, it had much poorer and smaller ice HZs, so the better option against Zinogre was Savage Axe style with impact phials and a raw CB. The same philosophy likely applies to Rise/SB.

[@TeamDarkside]

@Monika: perfectly put into words! if you post that first reply as a neutral comment and not as a reply we can pin it at the top!

[@AlexSolaire]

Amazing Video, thank you so much for the variety of builds and the calculation at the end. I'll definitely craft all 5 different sets

[@Lee-od3dw]

Lol the 75 joke was funny. Great video!

[@zom-be-gone3964]

Ok now I’m confused after ragegaming’s GS build which is very potent, who’s actually done the math on this one right? cause one’s saying it’s the kamura cleaver for max dmg then theres this vid which is between 3 of them. looks like I got some messing around to do to figure out which I get more damage out of. Then again I could say screw it and have a load of different build cause why not.

[@arachbae4777]

These guys are using a template build and charm. IF Rage did their math right (don't watch their stuff anyways so Idk) then it's very possible they are using a min maxed set with a god charm which allows you to replace xxx sets in this build.

[@darkwolf9637]

@@arachbae4777 rage gaming's build was done specifically with no charm so its set is much more focused on gear pieces with good deco slots it also had a focus on " a comfortable amount of purple without handicraft" which according to the video was considered 20-30 hits the kamura cleaver has both better purple and good deco slots. I'd like some damage numbers in the video. For rage gamings video they hit a 7,000 and something on a bazel and so far using the same build but with an attack boost 3 talisman the highest I've hit is 6,021

[@panini15]

Not sure who's right but i would be more inclined to believe tds is as they are a speed running channel vs rage whose videos are more casual.

[@ayyayyron]

From the calcs I've ran the build from rage is better when rousing roar isn't active, but the tds builds pull ahead when roar is on.

[@tru0nyx]

I was lucky crafting my Goss GS, but its worth mentioning the part needed is rare. Without breaking his back, its a tiny % chance. I made a Good Luck + Capture Master set and finally got it.

[@SanityPotion776]

Thank you for this video. Loving the build.

[@Flexolf]

Pls release a sns build guide like that, I would be really thankful (I mean if you can I don't want to be pushy or anything) Love your content

[@failix4936]

very nice ! would be cool if you guys can make a dual blades video for endgame.

[@skulphire3679]

Great video. Ty for this. I think I will go with the comfy, dmg build for now.

[@seijurohikko6382]

8:53 as a longsword player, being often screwed by the hit box even if the sword went directly through the monster, i am jealous...

[@Polopollo75]

Hold on, 4:53 spirit birds? Don't they get super obsolete with the higher attack and defense we reach now in MR armors/weapons? Do you have advice about routes for them? I also saw a dango for the spirit birds, is it worth it?

[@valaquenta2106]

tried the build.. it's amazing thank you for this video

[@scrimmage9391]

I saw someone with the max comfy build already and while it shows that this is good it did upset me when they stole the woke up with an uncharged draw attack

[@HunDev_PL]

I use full gaismagorm set with heroics. It literally destroys. Dereliction helps you to keep heroics boost, and they paired together give insane boost to your attack. I do also have fortify on, so fainting is kinda in my benefit. Also, sleeptoads are my bff's

[@shadox666z5]

Can we expect a video like this for all weapon types or...? (Love the content guys keep it up!)

[@evol_x_lillygaming4740]

Nice video! Definitely gonna try this build. Also are you working on a Switch Axe build by any chance?

[@monstahanto457]

I Will use the most comfy for sure, safety is the most important for a newbie. Thanks for the great vid👍

[@streepfire]

Good job guys ! And what do you think about the hunting horn ?

[@derbface1]

I would love to see a Rage Slash build guide out there. I know everyone is nutso about Strong Arm into TCS, but man... Some of us just wanna unga-bunga. Comfy build? Or Resentment?

[@CJD87]

I second this! I still enjoy ACS with Rage Slash as playstyle

[@freddoesvox9033]

I know Deus said he was branching out from hh by using GS but it honestly looks like he has switched mains

[@ShadowNinjaMaster93]

The only thing I don't like about Blood Rite and why I probably wont use it is I tend to gravitate towards parts I haven't already broken in order to break them and get more mats. this means I'm not going to be getting the most out of the skill unless I'm exclusively speed running and breaking probably just the head, in which case I'd rather just go for damage skills than survival skills.

[@alliceazure5389]

This video motivated me to learn greatsword and be a Max Comfy hunter

[@Wasabs]

Wouldnt it be better to use the fine kamura cleaver for the comf-dmg build since it has 330 damage, decent purple sharpness (enough until the monster flees usually) and its got a level 4, 2, 2 deco slot?

[@Aretepolitic]

Ty guess I will go build a GS setup. Are you planning on covering other weapons?

[@niclasweichert8985]

I play dereliction, with blood rite, part breaker, healing boost lvl 3, the ability that boost your dmg when you have red life, and the fish. Pretty good, especially for duals where you can use the combo chain ability

[@NotTaane]

@Team DarkSide How did you end up with Offensive Guard 3 with the build shown for Fire/Water/Ice? The Squire's Belt only gives one level of Offensive Guard, and you say to slot in 1 Guardian (Offensive Guard) decoration, which brings it to level 2. Any help is very much appreciated.

[@raptoraurion]

Full Malzeno it is. Great video, thanks for considering comfy builds

[@t1r1g0n]

Aren't theoretically 2 parts Malzeno enough? Mail and Coil have all three points of Blood Rite on them.

[@raptoraurion]

@@t1r1g0n For blood rite yes, i'm sure they picked the other pieces for a good reason tho

[@t1r1g0n]

@@raptoraurion Probability. But if you just want bloodrite those 2 are enough. I. personally will aim for a mixture of the comfy and the dps one. Because for me Bloodrite is enough.

[@gumball6445]

Element greatsword baby I WILL MAKE IT HAPPEN TO SPITE THE WORLD

[@KarnageReigns]

Please do something like this for every weapon! If you guys did daggers next that be so cool!

[@DeMause]

I definitely agree with your take on Dereliction. I feel like I could pull off using with Dereliction in multiplayer is Sword and Shield with evade extender 3 since you are evasive enough to just keep legging it to chug potions until a part is broken, but even then the risk of carting in a bad situation is too high for it to make sense to include it in recommended builds for general use.

[@jamesmaleedy5017]

You can do some serious shenanigans with bloodlust for 20 affinity + coalesance and also use deriliction with GS as long as you and your buds don't mind being a bit of a cart terrorist or you just get good enough at the Mons it's not too much of an issue.

[@DeMause]

@@jamesmaleedy5017 Sadly I have no buds who play or I would be constantly attempting such shenanigans on hunts with them. As things are I just keep it to solo play and run something safer for join requests.

[@LordShonji]

Hmm I wonder how this will compare to Josh's GS video on the same thing using the MR Kamura GS

[@notSusNugget]

GOSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. I’m glad the game expanded on the gigant Ice cleaver even further

[@Raven3557]

Wouldn't royal or kamura GS be better than Rajang with the rampage deco? Also what about bloodlust for affinity with 1 point ?

[@JanusHoW]

Any thoughts on the Ibushi GS for Dragon? You don't need Handicraft for it - in fact, it's a BAD idea to use it, since the Ibushi weapons all benefit greatly from the Grinder (S) skill. They not only has natural purple, but DON'T have white, so as soon as it drops to blue, you can sharpen it to get a boost to your raw for 30, 60 or 90 seconds depending on ranks.

[@tylerridgeway8596]

You guys should make a build centered around surging slash combo!

[@FoldingTeaLeaves]

Does the EFR in your table assume that offensive guard is active?

[@TeamDarkside]

Without offensive guard

[@FoldingTeaLeaves]

@@TeamDarkside Okay, thank you for the reply; good to know!

[@lionmaindgaming1027]

How much damage input does the new charge elemental attack skill does? Not enough to be worth it? I mean if we are using an element GS might as well work? The one from the first lord armor set forgot the name sorry

[@TheLuggi84]

It's not the element that is important here. The chosen swords just have good raw, sharpness and/or slots. It's just that they also got an element. They weren't picked BECAUSE of the element.

[@lionmaindgaming1027]

@@TheLuggi84 yeah I know that, the question is not why they where choosed as best GS, the question was if that skill that rise element/status attack on charged attacks would be relevant for the damage input of a GS since it has an element to it, pretty sure it doesn't honestly but was curious.

[@phiavir5594]

I never go into the numbers much but I'm pretty sure those weapons using handicraft are offset by wasting slots you'd otherwise get attack 7 on, say, the furious rajang GS. Half decent charms with it can get att 7, and probably 4 resentment which boosts strongarm damage even further

[@arshadzaidi4667]

Most of the handicraft comes from the Kushala chest piece. You're right that a half decent charm could get attack 7, but in the video they said they were using charms that only had 2 lvl 2 slots. If they were using actual charms, they'd also be at 100% affinity via max might and they'd have 5-7 lvls of attack depending on how good the charm is.

[@smitty7326]

Yo, your 75% unsubscribed thing made me laugh, then I went to check and I wasn't subscribed yet! I watch your videos so often that KZbin just naturally throws them at me. Anyhow, I'm subscribed now. Maybe it's 74.9% now

[@Zenderstrife]

Amazing guide. For futher optimisation ,what could be the BiS charm ever for those GS build ?

[@sir1603]

7:59 WAIT. SO NO DERELICTION?! 🤯

[@truetree39]

日本語でのコメントでごめんなさい。2：30あたりの字幕が間違っていました。腕装備がボロスXではなくベリオXになってしまっています。いつも動画楽しく拝見させてもらっています。これからも頑張ってください。

[@DanielSantos-ym8vd]

got to make my case for the kamura cleaver which bring the affinity to 90% and gives you 4-2 gem slot very powerful imo (slot in lvl3 wirebug)

[@gabrielcordovez]

I would have liked to see the best in slot charms, anyways this video helped me a lot

[@duskairable]

It would be good if you show the palico and palamute setup too, nice vid.

[@anthonyroberts7486]

Hope they do this for Switch Axe. I just and to know the best power and element phial Switch Axe for each element.

[@wumi7313]

fine kamura cleaver instead of demolord goldord = more slots = antidragon jewel = %5 more damage isnt it better?

[@wumi7313]

yes it is, dont waste your rajang heart!!!!