I stopped by Toby Keith’s grave and his estate while passing through Norman, OK. FOLLOW ME ON IG FOR MORE adam_was_here_83 #tobykeith #tobykeithgrave #norman #normanok #dreamwalkin
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@AdamWasHereАй бұрын
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@emilydaleakersgilliland20306 күн бұрын
Have you been to toby Keith’s mansion yet?
@AdamWasHere6 күн бұрын
@@emilydaleakersgilliland2030 yes, its in this original video kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3SXmpaNrN-BhLcsi=8PJ2zwFXREHrqVv4
@toniwalker53454 ай бұрын
My gosh…still can not believe he is gone. You are missed and loved. Thank you Mr. Keith for your amazing contribution to country music. You are the salt of the earth. 😢
@Corgi4pack4 ай бұрын
Me too 😢
@Susan-z4pАй бұрын
@@toniwalker5345 yes Mr.Elliot thank you for responding I am a friend of his. We texted I never met him. He encouraged me to walk after covid. He is a special person. Thank you for your kind words I will surely miss him. God bless you 🙏
@jessicacoley87454 ай бұрын
Big Toby fan here, RIP. Thank you for sharing this. it still hurts knowing hes gone. its gonna look beautiful when its done.
@Amy-r4r4b4 ай бұрын
😢Still makes me so sad Toby is gone. RIP you will be forever missed!!!
@user-kl4tj5xy3mАй бұрын
When I found out he passed it broke my heart he left us beautiful memories his beautiful music 🎵🎶 rest easy Toby Keith 🙏❤️🙏
@BeckyBabcock-w8s3 ай бұрын
My mother died of stomach cancer. RIP Toby . You'll always be missed.
@Mszahnclass954 ай бұрын
Rip Toby Keith ,truly missed 😢he died the same way my dad did , stomach cancer .I had a hard time watching him in his last interview s .God bless America Toby Keith ❤❤thank you for sharing a truly patriotic man.Toby an I share the same birthday July 8 th
@derrickcarter64004 ай бұрын
❤
@scottlambert29494 ай бұрын
So so for the loss of your dad sending prayers to you 🙏🙏🙏
@DebbieBerrey4 ай бұрын
So sorry
@gerriivie6104 ай бұрын
My husband passed from Stomach Cancer and every time I saw pictures of Toby it was like reliving my husband’s fight, the weight loss, how he moved and sat talking with his leg crossed and his arms folded. I guess I knew from the beginning that he wasn’t going to beat it. RIP TOBY 🙏🙏😢😢
@mandybradley30794 ай бұрын
Treatment can take you out before cancer. I have seen more people pass after a week of chemo, and radiation. It’s just wrong.
@diningroomfish54704 ай бұрын
Toby passing is like Elvis Presley passing, really hurts and so hard to believe 💔 😢 RIP BIG BROTHER 🙏
@violetnewcomb11953 ай бұрын
Toby passing is like Elvis Hewas always be alegend that is loved by so many Ilove Toby so much miss him more each day
@John-bq2lw3 ай бұрын
I feel you 😪
@user-mv8ub1nr6d3 ай бұрын
Toby was my all time favorite and I will always love him for all he did ? RIP Toby Keith ❤🙏💔❤🙏💔🙏
@amywantland53594 ай бұрын
RIP Mr. Keith. Angels are gonna be standing in line to sing with you. ❤
@gailcurl86632 ай бұрын
I Doubt "GODS ANGELS" are going to be singing Hard Core Country!! Be Realistic!!
@amywantland53592 ай бұрын
@@gailcurl8663 Always has to be a Hateful troll, GFYS
@MysticalMe1312 ай бұрын
Wow I had no idea. Omg. I just can't believe it. He was such an Awesome Singer. I loved his country music May he rest in peace 🙏
@drrichardvalentine4 ай бұрын
Toby Keith Was and is my Favorite Country Singer He will be Missed May He Rest In Peace😢
@vickyhohn51034 ай бұрын
When he first started singing I was there on his first concert in in rapid city South Dakota excellent singer
@ysidrotorres6934 ай бұрын
Ready peacefully Toby Keith. Spent many nights having a cold beer and listening To your music. Mostly by myself but your music kept me company. Thank you. 🙏🏼
@dianehail11504 ай бұрын
Will be so glad when his resting place is beautifully finished. So niçe he is with his Dad in the same cemetery. When all through we will be able to set and share. God bless Tricia and the whole family. If you need anything please do not hesitate to ask.💔💔💔
@garrettelliott25654 ай бұрын
Toby had a mansion in Norman, OK but now he has a mansion in Heaven where he walks with Jesus.
@gailcurl86632 ай бұрын
Only if He was a "Born Again" Converted Spiritually and Walked in The Spirit of GOD!!
@Susan-z4pАй бұрын
Please if you have nothing good to say just don't say a thing. He was my friend and a great man🙏🌹
@garrettelliott2565Ай бұрын
@@Susan-z4p Toby was a friend to millions and he'll live in our hearts for generations to come. His music is a timeless gift to us. 🎸
@woody85779 күн бұрын
@@gailcurl8663”Born again” refers to a backsled Christian who finds salvation once more. How do you know he lost his faith in the first place? It’s almost like you’re insinuating that he went to Hell. Don’t comment shit like that.
@gamblester4 ай бұрын
Toby Keith is always missed by many others. May he rest in peace, RIP, big dog I’ve always enjoyed his music.
@TrishMcCullochCummings2 ай бұрын
Toby Keith's music will always be around!!!! It's sad he's gone though!!
@wandarainey64333 ай бұрын
Toby Keith was a one of kind great artist singer song writer . I seen him when he first got started . When he was a newby . His music is great ! U almost tear up when he comes on the radio . He’s highly missed n country music but memories is still here for his fans.
@Horselovet874 ай бұрын
I miss toby Keith. His music got me though a lot . He was gone too soon .
@andrewshaffer96854 ай бұрын
Gone to soon. Rest In Peace suffer no more. Miss you and your music
@seanprice97012 ай бұрын
Rest in peace Toby! I love your music. Thank you for sharing your talent with us. You are missed!
@gman243104 ай бұрын
I live about 45 minutes away from there. I think I might go and visit him this weekend to pay my respects.
@violetnewcomb11954 ай бұрын
Ihave so mtch love for Toby hope yot tellus back here real bi.urial pjace for himIhave to come from virginia there thank you fans
@DebbieBerrey3 ай бұрын
Tell him I love him .I avebad panic attacks and he would text me everyday the past year to calm me down. I am disabled arthritis so lonely want love. So much. I hope u good thanks for post. Let me know how ur visit goes. 💘debbie
@kenh7333 ай бұрын
Its about 20 minutes from where I live, I just found out where it was but didnt know where at, now I do
@richardbrewer83012 ай бұрын
I was so glad that I had a chance to meet Toby back when he was just starting out. He was a really great guy who loved his fans !! RIP 🙏
@AdamWasHere4 ай бұрын
For those wondering or interested, I plan to go back and visit once the memorial is completed. I’m going to call the cemetery and see if they know of any type of ETA on completion. Once I know, I will plan another drive up there to make a follow up video for you all. *I will also be mindful of and protect against wind noise this time 😉 Thanks again to all for watching. Rest easy Toby
@dashcan84793 ай бұрын
Do that Adam. I will subscribe
@SherrieB-rc4sz3 ай бұрын
Toby's grave site looks just like his home in OK. Thank you for sharing! Miss Toby! 💔💔💔
@carlanippert4293 ай бұрын
Beautiful just like he was he was a beautiful person inside and out sure do miss you TK may you rest in peace our friend
@Stacy-pz9rr4 ай бұрын
I liked to his music a little, but after 9/11 , we saw what a huge patriot he was also Allen Jackson, I think through their music they brought Americans together and gave our military troops a boost in morale and the courage they needed , especially when our government does NOT . The wound warrior programs and the children with cancer , he gave them the will to keep fighting. I’m sure his family is devastated he’s gone , I know I am ❤from Tx
@Pearl-m3x3 ай бұрын
Love You. and miss You l cry every time l think of You. And your family❤❤❤❤❤
@Susan-z4pАй бұрын
Me too he was a friend I miss him so.much😢😢
@ginaposa45062 ай бұрын
Always love Toby keith still cant believe hes gone when i come back to Amercia will come to visit his Resting place Toby you will always be forever loved by me and all legend Forever Rest in peace.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@lindaparker71993 ай бұрын
A genuinely good human being. God bless him.
@KevinBerryhill3 ай бұрын
R.I.P Toby God Has Called To Come Home And He Is Proud Of You All Of Your Fans Are Missing You Terribly And Someday We Will See You Again Your Music Will Live On
@aarondavidson6704 ай бұрын
Rest in peace brother 🙏 you will never be forgetting your music will live on forever thank you ❤️ whiskey for my man beer for My horses😊
@MissMausoleum4 ай бұрын
I love that song! I'm still sad about his passing, but I'm happy that he's not suffering anymore pain and discomfort. He was such an amazing man and artist... And him on TNA... Iconic😂❤
@DestinyPowers-rz4lf4 ай бұрын
Ty so much for sharing. Love Toby forever and still cant believe he's gone. RIP Toby love you always. Heaven is blessed to have you as we were too. Prayers for family, friends fans
@Angela-LaLa3 ай бұрын
Toby was in a class of few. He was honest, caring, humble, proud and above all else a man who loved his family deeply. My heart aches just by the mention of his name. Thank you for sharing this video. I can hear in your voice the respect you have not only for Toby but for all who surround you.
@debbiebrockway47683 ай бұрын
I found Toby Keith’s CD Blue Moon at a store today and keep it in my car so Toby goes everywhere with me. Still can’t believe you were taken from us way too soon! You are missed so much Toby! You’re in our ❤️ forever.❤️🙏🏻🎸
@davidkeith70873 ай бұрын
I'm proud we share same last name- Enjoyed your music, patriotism & down to earth personality. I'm sure you're playing music w/ Angels in Heaven now 😊 ❤
@AdamWasHere4 ай бұрын
For those doubting this being his burial spot..before I would make and post this publicly, I would of course confirm this information. With that said, I did speak to TWO different cemetery staff workers that confirmed Toby was indeed at that spot and that his memorial is still a work in progress. It will look like the gates of his home in Norman, shown at the end of this video. You can actually see that with what’s already built. They also confirmed his father is buried there too, I just didn’t find his grave as I was pressed for time and didn’t walk around enough to seek it out.
@DebbieBerrey4 ай бұрын
Appreciate the post love toby so ❤debbie
@violetnewcomb11954 ай бұрын
E Toby Keith One great artist with aloving caring heart for all Family Fans Veterans Kids Korraj and all ,rest in peace legend cow boy❤❤❤
@Michael_Anthony744 ай бұрын
I'm not doubting you at all. Thanks for taking the time to make this video brother. REST IN PEACE, TOBY KEITH....
@SladeBling4 ай бұрын
Hey Adam, for awhile I read that Toby would be buried on his property but yesterday I read on find-a-grave that he's at Sunset near his dad, just like what you've posted here. And even before that I read he was going to be buried in a cemetary up in OKC. Thanks for your video!
@o13244 ай бұрын
Adam thank you for videoing this. Your a giver not a taker.
@SeboltLawnLandscape3 ай бұрын
Toby was an outstanding song writer, man, and great patriot! He will be truly missed.
@trinagarcia59054 ай бұрын
R.I.P Toby❤ Thank you for posting.
@barbarasevick88343 ай бұрын
You are greatly missed, Toby. Still praying for Trish and family to get through this tough time.
@MichaelAllan-mh9fh4 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing, still hurts, so very sad!
@rosefunk20883 ай бұрын
RIP TOBY 🙏. NEVER FORGOTTEN WILL ALWAYS PLAY AND LISTEN TO BEAUTIFUL AND PATRIOTIC SONGS.
@wolfandhoundh.a.e4 ай бұрын
R.I.P Toby Keith. Your legendary music will be missed
@ladyjane30704 ай бұрын
The sadness that I felt at your passing was unbelievable. It was like I had lost a family member. You were not only a great singer/songwriter but a true Red White and Blue American. You will be forever remembered a hero for your love of our military. R.I.P. Toby. 💔🙏🏻
@vanessahaywood60494 ай бұрын
Rest big guy , you made a hugh impact on this earth , from your amazing music to the OK kids Corral and our military. You were a true American man , and you will live on through your music and the lives of all you touched. 💔😢
@TrishMcCullochCummings2 ай бұрын
Very well said!!!
@KarenFlanagan-s7z3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this with me and his fans ❤️ and very respectful looking like it will be beautiful. It's proof that tomorrow is not guaranteed to anyone.
@jameseyer53174 ай бұрын
Still doesn't seem real to lose our heros..Toby you are greatly missed
@rosarycasiello1674 ай бұрын
I wish I could visit his grave. I'm tearing up again. He is so missed.
@Sherry-q7j4 ай бұрын
Still hurts, losing him.feels like,a very bad dream.
@GayCole-ci8ic4 ай бұрын
RIP Toby! Love ya! Miss ya so much! You meant the world to me! I love your music & I love my songs you wrote for me. I love them! ❤I love ya! I miss ya!
@carmairby27144 ай бұрын
Toby Keith was a hell of a man and musician! He was very genuine when it came to his family, military and his fans.. I actually thought he would get thru this.. I am very happy he got the publicity that he deserved! Rip Toby! U were one of the best!! Prayers to his family and close friends ❤ still can't believe that he is gone
@Bigone8184 ай бұрын
There will never be another man like him.i listen to his songs all the time
@gabrieladickson28264 ай бұрын
We miss you Toby Keith ❤️
@DollyTrees-do8zu4 ай бұрын
This is Jeanette nail ,my heart felt prayers goes to Toby Keith family I'm so thankful that God let me live .I'm a 9yr colon cancer survivor Toby was one of. My favorite singers and I still. Love his music y sister dolly trees sings his songs.
@krowbar234 ай бұрын
Toby has a great place there with a fishing pole in his hand, catching the big ones. 😊😊
@AdamWasHere4 ай бұрын
I realize the audio came out poorly with the wind and all. I plan to reupload a cleaned up version this week, that can be better heard and also a little of Toby’s singing voice in the Dream Walkin outro :) Thanks everyone for watching.
@CrystalCannady-ep1nf3 ай бұрын
Being a 40 year old woman raised in South Carolina n born in 1983 I literally grew up listening to him so heartbreaking
@melaniesmith37952 ай бұрын
R I P Toby We your Fans & Family You was a Great Man ❤ Hope your songs will play on 🥹❤️
@melaniesmith37952 ай бұрын
I meant to say RIP to Toby Keith 🙏And prayers for his Family ,And I hope they will continue to play his Songs & Videos 🥹🙏🇺🇸
@DebbieBerrey4 ай бұрын
Ohh my toby i miss u so bad
@1f5sda4 ай бұрын
Toby was one of those singers that I grew up with since I was 10. I am now 33 and he sadly died during my birth month in February.
@SharonMecca4 ай бұрын
Thank you. He is missed. I listen to his music every day.
@marlenepearson39364 ай бұрын
RIP Toby 🙏 😢The monument will be beautiful. 👍
@sharonkriskovich59114 ай бұрын
Toby's family has stated publicly he has been buried on his property for privacey
@Fearlesslyobedient2 ай бұрын
He was such an amazing gift to the world 🌎 but I know he's on streets of gold. God bless his family. 😔❤
@karenmulloy10854 ай бұрын
Such a beautiful video, for Toby Keith , thank you for sharing this with us ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😢😢
@sheilagable4482 ай бұрын
from my heart to toby keith is god of the skies right now and my own words i love you 😍
@TammyGoodman-s2h3 ай бұрын
Amazing man and singer loved his music 🎵🎵 Will be missed...
@brendanoyse38904 ай бұрын
Rip toddy you are missed so much bro keep singing with the angles
@scottlambert29494 ай бұрын
So sad to hear about a country music singer taken so soon rest in peace Toby Keith
@shawneezelis95663 ай бұрын
I’m going to miss Toby Keith forever because I know how his family feels because I lost my mom of stomach cancer too and it hurt me a lot and my mom was there when I have open heart surgery when I was 8mos old and she miss her alot
@violetdooley25473 ай бұрын
Toby Keith may be gone but will never be forgotten. Love you Big Dog Daddy❤
@williamouart41084 ай бұрын
You done an awesome Job,He woulda been proud!You cleared up all the rumors,took find s grave awhile to get it right!Thank you for stopping for Toby n Us !Looks like it's ginz be a place for us all to come !Safe travels, keep up the great work !
@roberthaizlip40574 ай бұрын
He didn't because it's all false. He's buried on family property in a family cemetery
@lornaeldridgepike58854 ай бұрын
We will miss Toby Keith at all his fantastic concert that he performed on. His fans will definitely miss him deeply . He was a great country singer ever ❤️
@susancrouthamel7604 ай бұрын
He never called his home a mansion. He always refered to it as his Ranch. He had several hundred horses at his thoroughbred racing stables on the ranch. He was racing, buying,breeding n selling thoroughbred horses. He started buying horses in late1990s n then started breeding. He also was a Breeders Cup Ambassador. He went to as many horse races he could. Toby said" Music is something that can last longer than a sports career if you can stay successful, but if a guy decidesto hang it up he really has to find something else that thrills him. And the horse racing business has always thrilled me that much"
@wieragajdzinska17534 ай бұрын
Thanks for shering this for us..please do back when everything will be dane so we can see. Im big fan of Toby..his dead effects me so deeply😢..i still can't belive you're gone forever..RIP dear Toby🙏 i miss and love you ❤💔💔❤️ You was my favorite contry singer ever...👍👍👍 Thank You for your amazing music🎼🎵🎶🎧🎤🎸🤠
@AdamWasHere4 ай бұрын
Of course. I plan on revisiting once it’s all completed.
@debroahisaacs24524 ай бұрын
It still and will always hurt. You're with Jesus and your dad. 😢😊❤
@ebonykids99914 ай бұрын
Toby's family repeatedly stated he would be buried privately on his ranch.
@jimmyabbott75384 ай бұрын
That’s what I am saying
@MagdalynnRoses4 ай бұрын
I hate these videos that lie to people. Yes, Toby Keith was buried on his ranch. His funeral was a private affair. This video is nothing but lies. Someone trying to cash in on Toby Keith's notoriety.
@belindascott8714 ай бұрын
We own plots at the same cemetary and was told a couple years ago, by cemetary staff, that Toby Keith was funding the development of a new section at the cemetary. Was there a few weeks ago decorating family graves and noticed this fresh grave site and highly suspect it is Toby's.
@linbennett52914 ай бұрын
Wherever you are whether Norman or Rose Hill, RIP, think of you often. Norman is beautiful❤
@teresanash40904 ай бұрын
Miss ya!!!! Toby. U r a true " icon"....... praying for ur. Family..... God bless u. 😢
@dashcan84793 ай бұрын
We will never forget him. God bless his family and the band.
@dolliemaesone3 ай бұрын
Toby man I known it’s just the body you used here on earth .I can’t wait to listen to the angel choir with you leading them ! Rest easy brother ❤Close to home comforting for your family !
@paulgrimm4 ай бұрын
Good Man ❤
@roberthaizlip40574 ай бұрын
While news reports have circulated that he was buried at Rose Hill Burial Park in Oklahoma City, his widow has confirmed that he will not be buried in a public cemetery but instead will be buried privately in a family cemetery near his residence for privacy and protection.
@ChasityGlenn20144 ай бұрын
That’s probably what she said to keep people from going up there before the gates were put up.
@roberthaizlip40574 ай бұрын
@@ChasityGlenn2014 I doubt it. Doesn't make sense
@roberthaizlip40574 ай бұрын
@@ChasityGlenn2014 They're plenty rich enough to bury him on private property and avoid the hassle
@ChasityGlenn20143 ай бұрын
@@roberthaizlip4057 I never said they weren’t rich enough to bury him privately. But Elvis Presley was originally buried in a public cemetery and so was Ronnie Van Zant from Lynyrd Skynyrd. Both had to be relocated due to threats that vandals presented and tried to get away with at each gravesite. Ronnie had to be moved more than once. But both the Presley‘s and Ronnie’s family were both plenty rich enough to bury them in private originally as well.
@roberthaizlip40573 ай бұрын
@@ChasityGlenn2014 But this is not even close to the same. Those examples were of different times when it wasn't common. Now even regular folk get buried on private land. There was never an issue for Toby. It was decided long ago where he'd be buried and there was never a legitimate source to say he was going to any commercial cemetery.
@carolgale4 ай бұрын
I heard he was being buried on the grounds of his property at a grave yard due to privacy and protection . Kinda what they did to Presley. Maybe his dad is in that private graveyard since you couldn’t find it.
@roberthaizlip40574 ай бұрын
Correct. This video is false
@vanessahaywood60494 ай бұрын
I read that to
@roberthaizlip40574 ай бұрын
@@vanessahaywood6049 It's ture he's not here at all
@KathyHenry-q7c3 ай бұрын
You are right. They are making a monument for him at the public cemetery but he is buried at his ranch.
@roberthaizlip40573 ай бұрын
@@KathyHenry-q7c That maybe..I'm not even so sure about that. Those pillars have been there forever
@sheilagable4484 ай бұрын
toby keith is great man and my heart is broken 💔 i believe he's going i was very upset about july 8th
@christianhanson7173 ай бұрын
I went and saw it this weekend and there is so much more done to it
@AdamWasHere3 ай бұрын
I’m going back end of August. Would you mind sending me pics if you have any? find me on IG @adam_was_here_83
@tracianderson98234 ай бұрын
He was one of a kind ❤ Rest in Heaven Toby Keith
@Yourbestfriend1262 ай бұрын
According to his widow he isn’t buried there. He will be buried in a private family cemetery near his home for privacy and protection
@lauraparker18354 ай бұрын
His resting place is very befitting for the life he lived! We all miss you Toby ❤
@joannedouglasАй бұрын
Thank you....usually takes 12 months before things settle and head stone place.....please post update.....Aussie Fan x
@ChrisHenrich-y5i4 ай бұрын
Rest in peace Toby Keith I miss and love u
@jonathanpebley1493 ай бұрын
He was an awesome singer and person your missed Toby
@randyking33614 ай бұрын
The sound is great!!
@joanne56113 ай бұрын
Will always miss my dearest friend. He was unique in the world.
@sheilagable4482 ай бұрын
I'm close friends with toby keith 2 years ago and saved my daughter from flooding arroyo grande
@DadbehindThecamera43 ай бұрын
Rest East 🕊️ Toby we all love and miss you brother!
@carrier9284 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this😇
@amandaself94373 ай бұрын
will you go back to visit in few months after it all done im still in shock that he passed love his music
@maureenwilson52474 ай бұрын
Thank You for sharing ❤️
@peggetennant4 ай бұрын
Praise God Toby is in Heaven. Only his body remains buried here until that great and glorious day when our Saviour Jesus Christ returns for our bodies. Victory in Jesus.
@dixie30864 ай бұрын
It's a beautiful cemetery. My in-laws are buried there. I will look at it when I visit them this month.
@roberthaizlip40574 ай бұрын
He's not really there
@dixie30864 ай бұрын
@@roberthaizlip4057 Does it really matter? I guess we could just all go to Hollywood Corners and pay our respects there.
@roberthaizlip40574 ай бұрын
@@dixie3086 Really!? Does it matter if people go to the wrong place thinking it's him? U kidding me?
@dixie30864 ай бұрын
@@roberthaizlip4057 If his remains are not there then that's the way the family wants it. I respect that.
@roberthaizlip40574 ай бұрын
@@dixie3086 That's fine but who makes a video lying about him being there for clicks???? And it's not a matter of if they aren't there....they AREN'T
@sheilagable4482 ай бұрын
I always love to you to toby keith ❤️ can believe he's is gone tells two daughters and my stepchild and my sons is their father is gone
@CatherineShaw-yq5ek3 ай бұрын
Made me cry. Not really sure where Toby’s final resting place is, I had heard it was in a private location on his sprawling property but for security reasons would not be disclosed which is just fine. He was a family man first and foremost and regardless of his celebrity status, both he and his family are due the upmost respect of privacy at all times. I know his final resting place is in the heavens, free from pain and sorrow, using his musical gifted talents to please our Heavenly Father with which he had a lifelong relationship with and he trusted to bring him home. My heart will always ache with his passing, I pray for his wife Tricia and those of his children, his mother, his brother and sister that they will find peace, comfort, love and even joy in the years ahead.
@gloriap50503 ай бұрын
Very well said. I agree with everything you said. My thoughts as well.