IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs of Dover Blitz desert war expansion - All flyable desert aircraft Beta images

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Team Fusion Simulations

Team Fusion Simulations

4 жыл бұрын

Latest Beta images of all confirmed flyable desert war aircraft, coming to the highly anticipated expansion to IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs of Dover Blitz.
Not all aircraft shown are complete, with cockpits, external components, special effects and sounds to be finalised by release.
At the end of the video, we have included a full list of all flyable aircraft, including all variants, available in both IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs of Dover Blitz, which you will need to own in order to play the expansion, along with the outstanding channel and desert war types and variants.
Let us know which of the new aircraft will be the first you will fly when the game is released!

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@henryluebberstedt7819
@henryluebberstedt7819 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, it smells like these thrilling good old CloD-Times when a wild bunch of guys made a diamond out of a total messed up simulation. This one is a completly new level. An incredible work. I can't wait!
@PauloHirth
@PauloHirth 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I remenber how many years we waiting...
@Jim5988
@Jim5988 4 жыл бұрын
i‘ve been with IL-2 since the first days, what a magical time! it was when cliffs of dover finally came out and was a complete feckin waste after so many years of anticipation i was disappointed beyond words and also life happened and i just never touched the joystick again. this though makes me want to build a new one and get the feck goin again 😍
@alfredodallolio2599
@alfredodallolio2599 4 жыл бұрын
There can't be torpedo war in North Africa without the Savoia-Marchetti S.79
@ChuckOwl
@ChuckOwl 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my god the Wellington looks phenomenal!
@crazylegoarmy
@crazylegoarmy 4 жыл бұрын
cant wait for it!
@bordias5922
@bordias5922 4 жыл бұрын
D.520 It's nice to see a french aircraft. Everybody tend to forget them.
@taccntb4345
@taccntb4345 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent set of skins guys.
@WalrusWinking
@WalrusWinking 4 жыл бұрын
Because they kinda got annexed
@jwg72
@jwg72 4 жыл бұрын
We tend to underestimate the number of casualties the luftwaffe took during the Battle of France... Vichy French aircraft (and some Free French aircraft) served in North Africa and Italy as well... but we tend to forget those theatres... less of an American presence perhaps, but also the fact that we are forgetting generally.
@Juubelimies
@Juubelimies 4 жыл бұрын
@@WalrusWinking So? Still not worth forgetting...
@JorgeHFJ
@JorgeHFJ 4 жыл бұрын
Wow... There are so many of them!! Look at those shadows dancing on the cockpits... and the water at 1:39!!! Great show, Pattle!! =D
@AdamWalkLikeSuicide
@AdamWalkLikeSuicide 4 жыл бұрын
You what?!?! Cliffs of Dover getting stuff? My god! It's beautiful!
@RawPower7
@RawPower7 4 жыл бұрын
Wow!! So many planes and so much to learn! Great work TF! This sim is the one i have waited for the most the last years.
@derbaerfm
@derbaerfm 4 жыл бұрын
I am really looking forward to the Martlet.. short and chubby ☺
@fenny1578
@fenny1578 4 жыл бұрын
Wildcat gang assemble!
@derbaerfm
@derbaerfm 4 жыл бұрын
@@fenny1578 Chubby little kitten next to all the sleek Spits and F-Series Schmidts and the Macchis.. Our kitten has to show its 4x.50 claws.
@fenny1578
@fenny1578 4 жыл бұрын
@@derbaerfm Its a package deal for me. No modern sims have a place for her yet. In BoX the Pacific is unrepresented. In dcs she's be duking it out with Kurfursts n Dora's. I guess I could go play Aces High early war server, but I'd rather not pay 15$/month to fly in an empty early war arena. This will be Wildcats in the rough, facing off against mostly comparable aircraft. Wildkitty gonna remind people she may not have been one to one with Zeroes but that doesnt mean she ain't beyond dangerous if you fly your silly Fritzscherschimdt like a donkey. Navy game stronk.
@TheSound0fLegends
@TheSound0fLegends 4 жыл бұрын
It's my favourite sounding ww2 aircraft. Check out my channel to listen to her in all her glory !
@57thStIncident
@57thStIncident 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully (along with P40 variants) a gateway to a future Pac theater
@TopperPenquin
@TopperPenquin 3 жыл бұрын
That is the best IL-2 video I ever seen. I was kinda hoping for the a slight music change and the Landspeeder x-34 towards the end.
@henryball7556
@henryball7556 4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Thanks for putting so much work into it. Can't wait for the release!
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles 4 жыл бұрын
This looks incredible
@momotheelder7124
@momotheelder7124 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! The Taifun is so lovely. I bet it is a blast to fly
@alastairpalm8150
@alastairpalm8150 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Truly mind bending array. Super Impressed Team Fusion. Feel like a kid in a candy store. Well Done. I can't wait!
@sbd1102
@sbd1102 4 жыл бұрын
This is amazing! Now I can imagine a multiplayer night fighting event with player-flown Wellingtons and Blenheims vs player-flown Ju-88s and Bf-110s. It would be a great game of cat and mouse!
@PorcoRossoPorcorosso86
@PorcoRossoPorcorosso86 4 жыл бұрын
Well, that could bring me back to Clod, impressive list of flyable planes, if you kept the same level of realism, damage model and stuff of Clod, but improved, that could be the new milestone for the prop ww2 simulators. Well done
@davidfreitas3992
@davidfreitas3992 4 жыл бұрын
Can't Wait~Great Choice for Theater!!! I usually wait for sales to buy my flight sim games but will pay full price when this comes out to show these guys some support.
@TeamFusionMod
@TeamFusionMod 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks David.
@perengkjr9623
@perengkjr9623 4 жыл бұрын
Really looking fwd to flying that Wellington!!! Great looking!
@RealDarko
@RealDarko 4 жыл бұрын
Great list of airplanes! I miss the Mc.200 tough, it was such a little nice plane!
@NemetskyCzar
@NemetskyCzar 4 жыл бұрын
Glorious! Thank you TFS, bravo!
@nantarg
@nantarg 4 жыл бұрын
The BF108 looks magnificent. Probably the firt plane to try out.
@fazer8653
@fazer8653 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant job! Top work TFS
@ErdenizS
@ErdenizS 4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to this a lot!
@57thStIncident
@57thStIncident 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else think the Spitfire Trop (8:56) looks kind of like Disney's Tigger (from Pooh)?
@K1eaner
@K1eaner 4 жыл бұрын
This is going to be so freaking good. I can't wait.
@preystalker1350
@preystalker1350 4 жыл бұрын
WOW ! Makes me want to throw sand in my pants in preparation. Great work !
@TCK71
@TCK71 4 жыл бұрын
Holy mother of God! That is a work of art....... stunning!
@PauloHirth
@PauloHirth 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to congratulate each one of the participants of this simulator, it is really a perfectionist job and many new planes, it is excellent news to relax us from this world! I look forward to flying this simulator! I reiterate the suggestion to open a space, a folder for modders to have the limited possibility to contribute sounds, effects, would increase the popularity even more.
@brianbriggs3553
@brianbriggs3553 4 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed by the amount of planes! Looks amazing! I think I'll try the Dewoitine. The gunsight looks like a lantern.
@jwg72
@jwg72 4 жыл бұрын
I was blown away by the gunsight too
@Gattobuono
@Gattobuono 4 жыл бұрын
It's not a gunsight, it's actually a coffee percolator. The French believed that their pilots should have every comfort in the cockpit.
@eldarguardian6485
@eldarguardian6485 4 жыл бұрын
4:06 yep, there is our mysterious "kleiner emil" user :P The amount and quality of planes You guys have delivered is just awesome. Too bad that I will only fly bf110 XD
@JohnnyFaber
@JohnnyFaber 4 жыл бұрын
This looks unbelievably beautiful
@rpm1796
@rpm1796 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant work.
@Claudio-ponterosso
@Claudio-ponterosso 4 жыл бұрын
Great! really great!, I can't wait for his release day, in the meantime a big thank you to the fantastic SAS team for believing in the project.
@ericb4127
@ericb4127 4 жыл бұрын
Looks absolutely amazing.
@hellcat611
@hellcat611 4 жыл бұрын
This looks awesome!
@flyingbull8411
@flyingbull8411 4 жыл бұрын
It's satisfying to be able to fly the biplanes
@Centauro-jcm
@Centauro-jcm 4 жыл бұрын
Good job! Thanks
@RobertMolders
@RobertMolders 4 жыл бұрын
IMHO, This is simply amazing and mesmerising! ( Erpr.Gr.210_Belial )
@danperin
@danperin 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, mate :D
@d.o.e.r
@d.o.e.r 4 жыл бұрын
Good mr.TF. Gooood...
@HawkerMkIII
@HawkerMkIII 4 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward for the Hurricane IIc Trop!
@johnsmithjr.9321
@johnsmithjr.9321 4 жыл бұрын
Jeez I remember playing the original IL-2 in full real campaigns with people a decade ago. Its interesting to see what the new IL-2 game is like.
@cortomaltese9101
@cortomaltese9101 4 жыл бұрын
So much different planes. Cant wait for the Tomahawk and the F2. The BF108 looks also very nice. Thx TF.
@SUP_Bigans
@SUP_Bigans 4 жыл бұрын
The 108 is unsense plane...they should employ the time to make the Macchi 200.
@jwg72
@jwg72 4 жыл бұрын
I'm actually most excited about the Bf-108 (after the Wellington anyway)
@EpicJoshua314
@EpicJoshua314 4 жыл бұрын
114 planes. Impressive
@deathmisser85
@deathmisser85 4 жыл бұрын
On top of BLITZ too
@nexus888
@nexus888 4 жыл бұрын
If DCS made this this the module would cost $2000 :) Will you do any video on the vehicles that are included?
@Hotdognzz
@Hotdognzz 4 жыл бұрын
And it would take them 100 years :)
@Gattobuono
@Gattobuono 4 жыл бұрын
$2000 on the Steam summer sale!
@Air-Striegler
@Air-Striegler 4 жыл бұрын
....and it would stay in pre-purchase, unfinished and buggy state for 8 years.
@schmiddy8433
@schmiddy8433 4 жыл бұрын
comparing a DCS module to an IL-2 module is dumb, they aim to achieve very different things. A good comparison would be flaming cliffs and il-2, those are very similar. Meanwhile full DCS modules are painstakingly crafted over years to be a digital replica in all functions from ground startup to takeoff, navigation, combat, landing and shutdown.
@1invag
@1invag 4 жыл бұрын
@@schmiddy8433 and take 5 years to leave early access. If ever lol also they arent even truly accurate simulations even then. Put a pilot of the actual plane in the dcs sim and watch them say this is different this is different this is different and on and on. And theyre the 'finished' modules
@fenny1578
@fenny1578 4 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to put these birds thru their paces. Ponied up for a throttle quadrant a few days ago. Are you guys gonna get with Chuck to do guides?
@trumps1973
@trumps1973 4 жыл бұрын
Superb, can’t wait! Hopefully it is a great success, and over time you can add more variants used such as Boston, Baltimore, Maryland, SM79, P-36/H75, ect! Magnificent job though, and I will be grabbing it as soon as possible. Thanks for sticking with it.
@TyroneSayWTF
@TyroneSayWTF 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding! I'm guessing the end (release date) is pretty close at hand (within a month to 6 weeks?) - given the ongoing Beta status.
@ivanstrydom8417
@ivanstrydom8417 4 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to fly training missions in the Superb Tiger Moth, ground support sorties with the Hurricane , combat air patrol with the Marlet over the vast sands ... And to fly high octane intercept sorties across the beautiful ancient deserts with my favorite aircraft of all time, the Spitfire MK V (chinless)
@thathumanhayden2979
@thathumanhayden2979 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to set up a hotas axis, like a slider, for FOV change (zoom)? I hope this is added.
@manupod71
@manupod71 4 жыл бұрын
Flight Simulator 2020 , polychop OH-58D for DCS , Team Fusion Simulations' Tobrouk ... a good year for simmers , thanks a lot !
@toonsis
@toonsis 4 жыл бұрын
love that BF-109-F
@bernardthefourth
@bernardthefourth 4 жыл бұрын
Looks cool. Hey! We should implement VR!
@one_pang
@one_pang 4 жыл бұрын
I'm just hyped for the torpedoes honestly
@Freedomlander_101
@Freedomlander_101 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to know the name of the soundtrack you guys used in this video. Thanks!
@larshaas2658
@larshaas2658 4 жыл бұрын
Will you also add the Stuvi dive bombing sight for the ju 88 and ju 87 for the Africa front?
@bozo5982
@bozo5982 4 жыл бұрын
I never knew of 108, it looks super weird. I like it.
@stefanobilotto3281
@stefanobilotto3281 4 жыл бұрын
Surely the first fighter that will fly will be the "Macchi MC-200" ... Ah and anyway the possibility to eliminate that annoying serrated effect of the graphics? Thanks again for the hard work guys ;)
@akm6156
@akm6156 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Wellington will be the first plane I fly at 5.0. Google Translate.
@bcbruno1974
@bcbruno1974 4 жыл бұрын
El mejor simulador WWII
@thewildsimon1418
@thewildsimon1418 4 жыл бұрын
Will there be livery’s first the Battle of Britain map?
@leemichaels406
@leemichaels406 3 жыл бұрын
Also may I ask what you have your smoothness and speed setting are on you track IR or what ever you are using in cockpit?
@TeamFusionMod
@TeamFusionMod 3 жыл бұрын
HI Lee, Send me an email at teamfusionmodders@gmail.com, and I will send through my Track IR profile. Cheers, Pattle
@grimreaper5230
@grimreaper5230 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like a winner
@marcelodt9291
@marcelodt9291 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, awesome images, do you have the release date ?
@luftwaffe6521
@luftwaffe6521 2 жыл бұрын
Yellow nose is eastern front? No? 109 would have white marking for the desert. Am I wrong?
@johnclarke2553
@johnclarke2553 4 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable!
@Siddich
@Siddich 4 жыл бұрын
Guys from ACG anywhere? Siddich will be back in a few weeks. I will finally have a PC again. :-)
@MikeHalk100
@MikeHalk100 3 жыл бұрын
The Hurricane Mk II C's can carry 250 lb or 500 lb bombs, correct?
@emerald1541
@emerald1541 4 жыл бұрын
I hope we will have to pay for this, you guys need something back from this work !!
@thewildsimon1418
@thewildsimon1418 4 жыл бұрын
I hope not they should put a donation button on the side because some people might not be able to afford it but I do see where your coming from and 100% agree they need something back
@emerald1541
@emerald1541 4 жыл бұрын
@@thewildsimon1418 Yeah it probably would be another way to do it !
@jwg72
@jwg72 4 жыл бұрын
When they obtained official sanction to work on this, it included that Tobruk would be an official product sold by the publisher. So we will pay (and hopefully doing so will fund further development)
@durandil
@durandil 4 жыл бұрын
Wildcat/Martlet. Will we see the Ark Royal and the Illustrious someday ?
@craigdavies4682
@craigdavies4682 4 жыл бұрын
1st thing I'll fly will most likely be something from Supermarine
@kevcall
@kevcall 4 жыл бұрын
Very impressive work. No idea what this has to do with 'Cliffs of Dover' but hey-ho..
@kevcall
@kevcall 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, maybe - I think I'd still prefer the european theatre and looking forward to game engine improvements in that regard. This will be interesting to try though; hjopefully the desert environment wont be too bland.. Time will tell :)
@dakota2166
@dakota2166 4 жыл бұрын
le Dewoitine, oh la la, cant wait
@kakitakenzo5013
@kakitakenzo5013 4 жыл бұрын
Please add Tunisia and Sicily campaign and : Spitfire MK IXc, P-40F and P-40L Warhawk, P-40 Kittyhawk Mk III and Mk IV, P-39 Airacobra, A-36 Apache, Mustang Mk 1, Bf 109 G-2/Trop and G-6/Trop FW 190 A-4, FW 190 F, Macchi Mc. 205, Savoia-Marchetti SM.79, Hs 129 !!! :D
@HawkerMkIII
@HawkerMkIII 4 жыл бұрын
You would also like 1 million dollars?
@firedrap
@firedrap 4 жыл бұрын
Hope for a future Savoia-Marchetti SM.79!
@voidwalker9223
@voidwalker9223 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what exact time frame the campaign will take place? Im assuming late 1941 to mid 1942? and will battle of malta also be added?
@jwg72
@jwg72 4 жыл бұрын
I suspect that Malta will be in a future product if sales are high enough - but I haven't seen anything official about it.
@smellyfella5077
@smellyfella5077 4 жыл бұрын
I bought my copy of Cliffs of Dover through Steam; please tell me this will work with it!? Absolutely amazing work you guys are doing....I'm just itching to fly one of those new Macchis!!!
@TeamFusionMod
@TeamFusionMod 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it will. You need cliffs to play the expansion.
@BringTheRain
@BringTheRain 4 жыл бұрын
Are these aircraft going to use the new Il2 damage model that was introduced a few months back?
@daverils4882
@daverils4882 4 жыл бұрын
This is a totally different game engine from IL2 Battles. You will find the damage modelling of Cliffs of Dover extremely detailed and complex.
@BringTheRain
@BringTheRain 4 жыл бұрын
@@daverils4882 Thank you, very much looking forward to this project! Cheers!
@Salguine
@Salguine 3 жыл бұрын
I can't help wondering when they're going to come out with a version of this game for the Pacific theater.
@TheGhostrider9667
@TheGhostrider9667 3 жыл бұрын
@Salguine No frikking doubt! PLEASE!
@hockeywarrior
@hockeywarrior 4 жыл бұрын
Will all of these planes' cockpits be clickable like planes in Cliffs of Dover?
@TeamFusionMod
@TeamFusionMod 4 жыл бұрын
Not totally clickable, however each has a number of clickable components.
@fontaholic
@fontaholic 4 жыл бұрын
mega!
@SuperDonk1980
@SuperDonk1980 4 жыл бұрын
What's the single play content like?
@TeamFusionMod
@TeamFusionMod 4 жыл бұрын
New campaigns and many new single missions will be included. The mission editor, which has been improved, allows players the ability to recreate many battles, real or fictional.
@Zebred2001
@Zebred2001 4 жыл бұрын
I wish flight sims would spend more time creating detailed ground targets etc. I want to se the dust clouds rising above massive advancing/retreating armies!
@TeamFusionMod
@TeamFusionMod 4 жыл бұрын
There will be plenty of targets and dust.
@darbz2k
@darbz2k 4 жыл бұрын
Going to be VR compatible?
@monikafatek6597
@monikafatek6597 4 жыл бұрын
Premiere 06-08-2020 - 12 days yet... Longest 12 days in my life...
@user-vp5uk4tm1d
@user-vp5uk4tm1d 3 жыл бұрын
Это прекрасно спасибо вам большое за такие видео по больше бы таких видео и как по мне все таки эти машины времен 1 мировой войны 2 мировой войны самые лучшие и прекрасные машины очень жаль что их осталось так мало
@Ewan_Gaming
@Ewan_Gaming 4 жыл бұрын
133 aircrafts. Am I right? Share!
@paulowinter5733
@paulowinter5733 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Job!!! The number of flyable aircraft is amazing. Is it already available??
@TeamFusionMod
@TeamFusionMod 4 жыл бұрын
Not yet Paulo.
@paulowinter5733
@paulowinter5733 4 жыл бұрын
Do you guys have a target release date?
@shakespeade8899
@shakespeade8899 4 жыл бұрын
Dewoitine! So excited!
@jantybicz9290
@jantybicz9290 4 жыл бұрын
Ju-88 C - like a Targaryen"s dragon... Wonderfull...
@SB-cf3xt
@SB-cf3xt 4 жыл бұрын
great job congratulations, too bad the Macchi 200 Saetta is missing, a protagonist of the air war in North Africa, will there be in the future?
@74MikeBike
@74MikeBike 4 жыл бұрын
We hope to add the C.200 and also the SM.79 in the future... but depends on the success of TF 5.0 1C will have news in the near future re. the release.
@TyroneSayWTF
@TyroneSayWTF 4 жыл бұрын
@@74MikeBike Hope the same is true for the Spitfire Mk VC trop (with 4 x 20mm)
@leemichaels406
@leemichaels406 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to design missions?
@TeamFusionMod
@TeamFusionMod 3 жыл бұрын
Sure can Lee. Full Mission Builder - FMB in game.
@leemichaels406
@leemichaels406 3 жыл бұрын
@@TeamFusionMod One of my issues with the game so far was The missions to learn with on the original game were not so hot... I want to be able to design some nice training missions for those of us who can't spend enough time in the seat.
@tonyslight826
@tonyslight826 3 жыл бұрын
where's the Bristol Beaufort .
@googleisshittoss
@googleisshittoss 4 жыл бұрын
amazing...will it run alonside Blitz?
@TeamFusionMod
@TeamFusionMod 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. You need to own Blitz to play the expansion. Blitz will also be upgraded with this purchase.
@drakepirate
@drakepirate 4 жыл бұрын
Any idea how much is gonna cost this new CoD version?
@TeamFusionMod
@TeamFusionMod 4 жыл бұрын
Check Steam for your currency price point. It will be $69US with a 15% discount for first week of release.
@tomcat2395
@tomcat2395 4 жыл бұрын
I only wish that this was a mission pack for il2
@martinplanes2053
@martinplanes2053 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes all looks fantastic.....but when????
@matteog4474
@matteog4474 4 жыл бұрын
great job, I will buy it on day one! I wanted to know ... will it be possible to use the Fiat G50 and the BR 20M in the new map in the quick missions for example with their marks? Because currently the game does not allow me to use the Italian marks on these two planes but I am forced to play them with the German marks ... I don't know why, I don't know if it's a bug.... thanks if you find time to answer me
@Bedgie01
@Bedgie01 4 жыл бұрын
Flyable 4 engine bombers in Il-2 is what we need like the b17 and landcasters ans so on
@tsisqua
@tsisqua 4 жыл бұрын
What is the expected release date? How much will it cost? I have been looking at the only map in the game for almost a decade, now. Take my money.
@TeamFusionMod
@TeamFusionMod 4 жыл бұрын
Check Steam for your currency price point. It will be $69US with a 15% discount for first week of release. Actual release date yet to be announced.
@Ewan_Gaming
@Ewan_Gaming 4 жыл бұрын
When the game is released?
@kosmos224
@kosmos224 4 жыл бұрын
In Two Weeks®️ of course!
@antonioiozzi291
@antonioiozzi291 4 жыл бұрын
You have firgotten the Macchi C200....
@SUP_Bigans
@SUP_Bigans 4 жыл бұрын
Anche SM 79!!!
@jwg72
@jwg72 4 жыл бұрын
What other Italian aircraft were numerically important in this period? The MC200 and the Trimotor bombers seem important as do the Caproni 309\310\311... are there any others? I'm curious.
@EpicJoshua314
@EpicJoshua314 4 жыл бұрын
J WG I recall them saying that the MC 200 was only marginally better than the existing G.50 in the game, so they went for the MC 202 as more people would like it than the MC 200; they also said that the SM.79 would be too large to complete for 5.0 and hope to include it in the future. I really want to see some more Italian planes in future modules.
@jwg72
@jwg72 4 жыл бұрын
@@EpicJoshua314 Interesting! That makes a lot of sense from a design perspective. It would seem to be the next logical Italian fighter (if they do any more). I thought a Ca.310 would be an interesting counterpart to the Blenheim (and they were produced in large numbers)... so that'd be my pick after those two. :)
@antonioiozzi291
@antonioiozzi291 4 жыл бұрын
@@EpicJoshua314 italian aircraft numerically oft were more important than germans, even if british pilots wery oft mistaked them for germans (expecially the Mc202). There are several version of Ju88 but .. SM79? The Mc200 was much more used than the G50 on African front, and was considered better then the Fiat.
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