Teardown part 2: Harbor Freight Hercules and DeWalt angle grinder comparison review

[@Lanninglongarmmowing]

Chuckee2009 put the link to this video in one of his videos. Congrats!!!!

[@ToolTeardowns]

Thanks

[@Lanninglongarmmowing]

Tool Teardowns You are welcome.

[@Lanninglongarmmowing]

Turbo Nissan That's good. I actually subscribed to tool tear down a good while ago. It's a great channel.

[@411NOW]

Checking out your video's because Chucke2009 said so, so far I like what im seeing.

[@darthvader4hire]

Me Too!!!

[@tonyhuynh11]

Same. Even tho I've been subscribed for a while lol

[@chaytonruijsenaars3971]

i use this grinder daily and its definitely worth the money, its a tool from an unlikely source that can stand on its merits and do its job effortlessly, even reefin down on it half stalling it out it doesnt overheat in my hand like our dewalt does, stays cool and maintains power, i bought it cause the teardown looked so good but it exceeded all expectations

[@USNJackman]

Disclaimer: My dad raised me to be a DeWalt fan boy, and I got the brushless DWE402(11000 RPM 11 amp), but my buddy I served with has the equivalent 11 amp Hercules. I'll be visiting him again soon, and we're going to cut up a leaf spring assembly (for repurposing not just to ruin good spring steel). He swears by his grinder, and knowing him he's right. I still love dewalt though, and I caught it on a decent sale, day after I put my order in the price jumped up 25 bucks! The comparable Herc grinder is HE61P, and at least on the outside they're nearly identical in shape. Current HF price near me is $75, where as I paid $85.70 for my DeWalt. Haven't gotten to hog out material on either, but frankly I'd go with whichever you find on a good sale first 😂 the price on HF's website for the DeWalt is 99.99, but again, if you want the longer warranty you're paying close enough to the same, if neither is on sale. The cheapest (4.3 amp) warrior grinders run about 10-15 bucks, but that's the value of them. Hercules and DeWalt seem very comparable, harbor freight doesn't seem to be blowing smoke with this line.

[@HeadphoneHarvey]

Very fair video covering the practical aspects of these grinders. I'm a hobbyist and just got the Hercules. Very impressed with the build quality compared to other HFT grinders I've bought. I'd expect tradespeople and contractors will eventually adopt the HFT if the tools hold up under use. Time will tell. Thanks very much for your comparison.

[@bluemantom77]

I got a supera-one 4 1/2 angle grinder 11 amps 12,000 RPM rat's tail type I'm pretty surprised with it of course I repacked it with as much grease as I could possibly add inside so that probably helped it run a lot better

[@WhySheSoDope]

@ToolTeardowns Harbor Freight has the best warranties in all of retail, they do not take it for repair, inspect it, or even test it even is broken in any fashion. You bring it in you get a brand new one on the spot! You do not need the receipt they can pull it with your phone number. I do not know what DeWalt does but I can almost promise you they send it out for repair.

[@johnhandcock3242]

Parts and labor are only 1 year, not 3 years, you have to pay for shipping, and they will give you the usual run around. Most people don't even bother. If something breaks on the job site, unless it's brand new, they throw it in the trash and get a new one.

[@TheKurtTribute]

Great and informative video. You and AVE are neck and neck, however his videos are becoming too drawn out for me. I use Metabo grinders so I’m not in the market for any currently, but if I was I would be sure to keep your videos in mind!

[@ToolTeardowns]

I just picked up a lightly used Metabo grinder that I'm going to tear down in a future video. I found it at a garage sale, of all places. That was a surprising place to find a German grinder.

[@TheKurtTribute]

I love them. I'm not any brand fanboy by any means, I spend my hard earned money on things that will last, it's not my fault all of those things happen to either be Japanese or German!!! HAHA. At work we use pneumatic grinders, 6-9", Cleco brand. They used Metabos there around 6 years ago but traded them out for two reasons, even though they are tough, the nylon housings couldn't stand up to the abuse of a industry shop, and also they did not (maybe did? Can't rember which is dead man) have a dead man switch which is a must as far as OSHA is concerned.

[@matmuffin1]

I've been abusing my hurcules for 2 months now and it's great. I had a problem at the beginning with the gear box getting hot so I got a new one same thing... I de greased everything, added a oring under the spring for the lock and put gear oil in it.. Stays much cooler and spins more freely

[@mattbechberger3298]

Matt Drew i have this same issue with a cheap grinder, got extremely hot and took it apart and the grease had turned into a frothy foam. Zero left on the gears all just in the corners. No leaking oil issues?

[@robswrenches9501]

Good mod Matt!

[@matmuffin1]

Matt Bechberger no oil issues since I "sealed" the lock button I abused this grinder for a month constantly giving her all my weight and when I went to change the oil I didn't since it still looks new (75w 140). The gear box still gets pretty warm but the gears will definitely last given that it's now soaked in oil.

[@kb9oak749]

It's the grease. Use a good quality grease.

[@loveofthegrainworkshop2891]

Well I just bought one of the Hercules without knowing anything about it. Mainly because it was cheaper than the Dewalt and yet looked just as good. After watching both of your videos (which are awesome by the way), I feel I made a good choice for sure. Yes it’s $20 difference, but I live pay check to pay check and have a family of 7. I work for myself using my tools part time. So any $$$ I can save makes a difference. That does sometimes means buying a cheaper $$ and cheaper built tool. But sometimes that has to do. Thankfully this tool seams to do the same job as the more expensive one. Thanks so much for the video. Subscribed and will continue to watch. Keep up the good work. How the heck did you manage to get a free tool from dewalt? I’m a fairly new KZbinr. I have a few videos with one that has taken off.

[@Dennis-bs5jz]

Chuckee sent me, and it was informative to say the least. Thank you for a good video

[@markbeiser]

People make a big deal about the warranty, but if you have ever need to use the warranty a broken DeWalt product, you will likely be in for an eye opening experience, especially if you are not near a repair center. You pay shipping, both ways...

[@johnhandcock3242]

exactly. Their 3 year warranty is really at best 1 year, and even getting that is an expensive chore. You can buy the 2 year warranty from HF for the price it will cost to ship your grinder back to dewalt.

[@HeatR216]

Really glad to have watched both parts. Thanks!

[@Joeak74]

Once again...Harbor Freight Hercules for the WIN!

[@TrentPierceProjects]

Came here from ChuckE2009's video. Nice teardown.

[@meanodustino9563]

Dude your video is awesome! Not too indepth. I don't need to know what kind of plastic the tool has or bearing make or anything like that just basic differences in and out and you provide it perfect!👌

[@aserta]

Brushes these days should always be softer type for 2 reasons: 1. because they are cheap as cheap comes 2. because nobody puts proper contacts anymore, just the cheaper ones. I'm perfectly ok with changing brushes every year vs having to go to the corner market to buy someone else's discarded armature.

[@ksong1496]

Just wondering... Can you buy brushes separately from HF? I threw away old $40 corded impact wrench because I couldn't buy the brushes separately. Since then, I don't buy HF power tools, but if I can buy that, I might reconsider.

[@TheDragonfriday]

@@ksong1496 I would like to know this where can you buy brush from?

[@SillyOmega]

@@ksong1496 I belive Harbor and fraight has a number you can call for parts.

[@bsimpson639]

FWIW, the HF coupons exclude Hercules brand products. Maybe some of you can still squeak a 20% through, but the cashier who rang me out informed me of the exclusion. Bummer.

[@johnhandcock3242]

You can't. Though the items still go on sale. You can't use the normal 20% and 25% off coupons though.

[@speedydry]

I can get parts for Dewalt. Prices are now more reasonable on new models. Better resale value for Dewalt, too. Review is based a lot on opinion more than real testing,

[@SHAKA38]

Thanks for the update. 👍

[@chrisjones6165]

SHAKA38 I still haven't killed my Hercules bro. Really tried this week as today was last day of 30 days to return and she still chooches. Worked better than I expected. Just don't like the fact it has a 90 day warranty.

[@robswrenches9501]

chris jones It was like Jason, you just couldn't kill it.😁 That's actually good to hear. I love the blue Chicago Electric version. 👍👍👍

[@dwaynecarlin]

I would really like to see you tear-down Hitachi G12SR4 6.2-Amp 4-1/2-Inch Angle Grinder. I went to Lowe's with the intent of purchasing one but it felt just like my $10 HF Grinder so I passed.

[@GCraigmile]

I have the HF’ one,,, So fare it’s been great and I do tell people about how good it’s been.. Thanks for the videos Bro’ ...And HF’ Thanks for making your tools better and better!!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@thegreatfixer]

how about weight length width and sparks from the brushes and about the spindle lock can you remove an old wheel without the key can you put on a wheel without the key thank you ....thegreatfixer

[@hambone4402]

Thanks for the unbiased review. I just watched another review in which the guy couldn’t stop saying how great the Hercules was and then at the end said he still wouldn’t buy it. Guess it didn’t have the Dewalt name on it. What a snob.

[@syedjavedahmad9719]

Hambone Ok

[@SirMo]

Great video, just a quick safety note: You are cutting the wrong way at 5:07 . The sparks are shooting up, which means that the grinder is pulling towards you. That's unsafe and you don't have good leverage cutting like that. You should cut so that the sparks hit the ground and the grinder pulls away from you. It is much safer and it's easier to hold the grinder that way (basically screw the handle to the other side and flip the grinder around). If you bind up between the cutting pieces the grinder will fly away from you, and not come back to hurt you.

[@ToolTeardowns]

Yes, you are correct. I set it up this way for the shot, but if you check out my later grinder videos you'll see I did it the safer way.

[@SirMo]

@@ToolTeardowns Yup, just watched your Bauer review. You got it! Thanks for the great channel!

[@boosted2.4_sky]

A lot of times quality is in line with price and that is usually in line with use.. if you're only going to use it a handful of times a year buy the less expensive one.. if you need to use it at your job/ home frequently.. then buy the more expensive one.. With slightly better quality.. and that is where you need to weigh the price difference and level of said slight quality... Harbor Freight has done a very good job of bringing their new lines in and showing that they are quite capable around the house and on the job site without breaking the bank

[@stupidass4567able]

Craig Cundiff pennis and dicke abd balls

[@johnhandcock3242]

$ -> Quality is a really really bad assumption.

[@zafaradil3548]

Win win "situation' for both ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !you r very clever guy ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

[@darthvader4hire]

I do have one question and love the vid by the way...DeWalt NOW vs DeWalt pre owned by Stanley...at my work place there is a CLEAR difference between the two. the old is clearly better than the new DeWalt. we stopped buying them and switched to Mikita what are your thoughts Sir?

[@ofrimashiah2]

Cutting tiles is consider hard work for a grinder? I belive the hardest is cutting metal. After that cutting concrete and the lightest duty is tiles. Do you think the 10 dollar h f grinder would make it worth buying for lots of tiles? Or it wouldn't keep up?

[@SirMo]

Tile is very tough on the grinders. Ceramic material in tiles is very hard.

[@mrregular8067]

Hardness test on the shaft or on the casing?

[@tjm3900]

New subscriber here. Would love you to do a tear down on a Tacklife power tool. They are all over Amazon and priced on a par with the low end brand name tools, but suggest their product is better.

[@elchibacuatro4092]

buen video . saludos desde mexico

[@tvbox6955]

What do the brushes do?

[@syedjavedahmad9719]

Did you favor DeWalt, for any reason.

[@TRYtoHELPyou]

Dude.. good job

[@throttlebottle5906]

there's a reason cheaper tools include spare brushes, the same reason why you'll likely need them. I'll just behave and leave off at that :))

[@spencer1244]

Not having a “dead man” switch makes using these grinders scary as fu*k

[@zdcvingz]

sent by chucke2009, awesome video!

[@waynewicks6814]

I'll take the Hercules I can just walk in harbor freight and get a brand new one that I like

[@Mexicanmike87]

I get the 2 year extended warranty on all my power tools, not because I don't think they'll last, but because i can just trade them in after 27 months even if they're perfectly fine

[@pollydor07]

THANK YOU SO MUCH , GOOD VIDEO

[@JoeCnNd]

I just the Klein CL800.

[@Markomyt1]

Good Job. Subscribed and shared. Hey, how about a intro video on your channel?

[@ToolTeardowns]

That's a good suggestion. I have been thinking about an intro video.

[@SmallTownGuy-]

I bought the same model Dewalt grinder today at the local hardware store & it's made in USA with global materials.

[@j.a.1785]

Assembled in the USA, not made.

[@JD-jc2is]

global materials = Chinese

[@SmallTownGuy-]

The box did say Made in USA with global materials but I agree. It should've said assembled in the USA & J D, I believe you. It don't surprise me that it's still Chinese made.

[@chrisjones6165]

Tried to kill my Hercules in 30days.. no luck. Even used it to bevel 6in schedule 80 pipe and it did get warm but wouldn't quit. Pretty skookium just don't like the warranty

[@TheKurtTribute]

chris jones use a sanding disc (sungold abrasives makes good ones) when beveling the pipe. Push down with high pressure, the motor will be under extreme load, if anything will get it hot enough to burn out it’s that.

[@chrisjones6165]

GambleFabrications I use camel grinding wheels. Had a 40 grit on with good pressure and she wouldn't smoke. Killed 3 of the blue harbor freight grinders this way but the hurcules seems better but considering the 90day warranty I'd go milwaukee or DeWalt if I were to buy again. Own 2 milwaukee fuel grinders so this is soley my beater grinder

[@misterhat5823]

Keep in mind that HFT will sell you an extended warranty. If they really thought it would crap out before two years, they wouldn't sell that warranty. The 90 day warranty is a gimmick to get you to hand over an extra $20 to feel safe.

[@chrisjones6165]

Mister Hat I've killed 3 of the blue harbor freight grinders prior to getting this one. Did get warranty on them and that's how I got the Hercules since they didnt wanna refund $ till I killed Hercules. I couldn't but that's nothibg for long term use. I know the milwaukee will last and is guaranteed for 5 years the hercules is now a best guess scenario at this point, I do hope it lasts though

[@doppelganger310]

the Hercules is better then the bauer brand they have .. harbor is improving their affordable quality and the lifetime on the hand tools .. they still need improvements in other product categories. be realistic buy pricey tools when its required and ball out harbor when possible

[@Battle-Fab]

Sub’d from chucke2009 video. Not to bad. But I still like my AVE videos.

[@Shade_tree_garage01]

You like AVE Becuase he bashed harbor freight nonstop, js

[@omgnogod666]

Hello Belo, 5:35

[@oldowl4290]

Any angle grinder with a locking on/off thumb switch is definitely one to not own. Only the paddle type, or better yet, the trigger grip type.

[@elpaisa1]

Chucky sent me here

[@TMS5100]

brushes are cheap to replace. better than trying to replace the rotor.

[@mikefinto4048]

Talking about brushes?? They're super cheap

[@damarei]

Hahaha, nice job calling out the nerds

[@robertrada1660]

The one is overpriced,and one is cheaper

[@randomguy93984]

It's literally 20 bucks more get the dewalt

[@misterhat5823]

Why? There's no real improvement. Get the Herc and throw $20 in the trash if you must unload a total of $60.

[@boosted2.4_sky]

Mister Hat absolutely right that's really the point of Harbor Freights new lines Why Pay people $150 for a drill and $60 for a grinder when you can buy a drill for $99 and a grinder for under $40?.. and get the same work out of them ... this s*** really starts to add up when you buy their tool line because you've dedicated yourself to a particular battery and when you spend $1,000 on DeWalt tools and five to six hundred dollars for Hercules tools and still get the job done then you definitely notice the difference in your wallet

[@An_Urban_monk]

Another reason to buy Hercules even though $20 doesn’t seem like is you can buy 3 Hercules for the price of two DEWALT. Put a flap disk one one, cutoff on another, and grinder on the third and you are more productive and save time of jobs. Plus wear and tear is spread across three tools instead of just two.

[@loveofthegrainworkshop2891]

Being a newer smaller business, along with living pay check to pay check with a family of 7. Every $20 I can save is a plus! Especially if the tool is just as good as the high end brand. I just bought one of these and it is definitely worth the $$$

[@johnhandcock3242]

$20 is 33% less than the Dewalt, and it's the same quality. If dewalt had a 33% off sale, you'd shit yourself.