Tearing Down A Ford 6.4L Powerstroke Diesel "Core" Engine. A Pricey Core, But How Did I Fare?

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Жыл бұрын

I KNOW. It took a while, but FINALLY, a Powerstroke! You would think with as notoriously unreliable as these engines are they would be everywhere but it took a bit of effort to get one. This was the one to have too!
If you're new to the channel, my name is Eric and I own and run a full service auto salvage business called Importapart. If you're looking to buy parts you can visit www.Importapart.com and fill out the part request page if you don't see what you need, or you can shoot us an email at Importapartsales@gmail.com.
Part of our model is parting out core or blown engines. A core engine by definition is a bad engine, or someones old engine that they have replaced. We cycle through hundreds of these every year and I teardown one on camera every week! There are over 80 teardowns on this channel, everything from Viper engines to a subaru boxer, Cummins to Duramax, and lots more.
As always, I appreciate all of the comments, feedback and even the criticism.
Catch you on the next one!
-Eric

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@michaelbolton1090
@michaelbolton1090 9 ай бұрын
As a powerstroke tech maybe I can shed some light. The 6.4 has a bad reputation because of the emissions. The process of regeneration kills the engines. Regeneration isn't done through a 9th injector like the duramax motors so it is done as a "controlled" over fueling. The problem is the trucks never completed regen because of city stop and go driving, or a bad air filter, or a sensor bias, derate etc etc. So the trucks stay in regen constantly which is hard on the motor. Eventually that fuel works its way into the motor and then you're lubricating the engine with diesel fuel. They typically burn piston rings (because of the overfueling) and throw lifters because of the poor lubrication. It isn't uncommon to drain twice as much oil out of them because the oil is diluted by fuel. Deleting them increases their lifespan substantially. If that isn't an option, then use quality filters, fix your check engine lights, look out for black tail pipes (means the dpf is cracked), and check your oil regularly to ensure it isn't over full.
@Randy.E.R
@Randy.E.R Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this with me. I am a fleet mechanic for a public utility in California. My service area is the high desert in San Bernardino and Inyo counties to the Nevada border. This includes Death Valley. This blistering hot, dusty terrain can put any vehicle to the test. Most of the fleet I deal with are larger Navistar trucks with manlifts and digger derricks. But I also service about eight F550s. In 2009, they replaced the older F450s that had the 7.3 with the new F550 with a 6.4. I was told this was a much better engine. That was odd because I didn't have many problems with the 7.3. Almost immediately two of the trucks hand-grenaded the engine. Ford covered the engine under warranty but I had to do the work because they couldn't take off the cab. The trucks had a boom hanging over the cab. Since the truck couldn't start and run the PTO, the boom couldn't be rotated out of the way. I replaced both engines with the cab on. After that, Ford refused to cover the engines under warranty. They argued the trucks were too heavy for that engine. The trucks weighed about 17,000 pounds. Over the next 10 years we had the F550s, I replaced seven engines, about a dozen turbos, High Pressure Pumps, Injectors, all with the cab on. I can't begin to tell you how much money that cost the company. And I am only one of 43 garages in the company. With the exception of the DPFs, Ford refused to warranty almost any other failures. When the cab and chassis were purchased, I am wondering if Ford knew ahead of time how heavy the finished trucks would be. Nonetheless, we no longer have any 6.4s. I always wanted to take one apart. I always replaced the engine for the sake of time. A truck out of service leaves a crew unable to work. I wanted to take apart a core to see what happened but I simply didn't have the time or space. I would have gladly given them to you if I had known you. I am glad you made this video. Now I finally get to see what one looks like inside.
@patriciareynolds2729
@patriciareynolds2729 Жыл бұрын
bought a deleted 6.4 with 170k miles. looks like new turbos, has check engine light now. have $16k in truck. would u keep or sell it? cant tell about fuel/ water pump replacement.
@pkt1213
@pkt1213 Жыл бұрын
Laying down with my 2 year old and watching this. She got very excited when you mentioned glitter. 😆
@sonicnofadz
@sonicnofadz Жыл бұрын
I am somewhat of a 6.4 mechanic, once "built" properly these are actually marvelous engines. There are quite a number of factory "flaws", especially with the valvetrain and heads. The factory cam is designed for EGR, swapping to aftermarket, is known to make the valvetrain survive longer. Premature rocker and lifter wear is very common on a factory motor. Emissions delete is a must if you want the engine to survive. Factory cast pistons are known to crack on some engines as well. Properly built, these engines are a true monsters
@jellyfrosh9102
@jellyfrosh9102 Жыл бұрын
yeah they're a great engine, you just have to completely re-engineer them and spend ~10k to fix all the shit Ford/Navistar/Renault didn't do correctly from the factory. or you could just buy anything else.
@rogerhirsch3910
@rogerhirsch3910 Жыл бұрын
You I think are the one to ask about rebuilding one with intention of making it good better best possible. It is possible?
@sirdeuces968
@sirdeuces968 Жыл бұрын
So we still don't know where the metal came from?
@metalted6128
@metalted6128 Жыл бұрын
@@jellyfrosh9102 international engine though!!! Put the blame on them.
@metalted6128
@metalted6128 Жыл бұрын
@@jellyfrosh9102 still better than a cumapart, or Isuzu Engine. As a 6.0 ps owner! With 250 k non deleted 6.0 owner.
@frankz5864
@frankz5864 Жыл бұрын
This channel is great. It’s like a mechanical murder mystery.
@lethaldiezel8839
@lethaldiezel8839 Жыл бұрын
Right 😂😂
@tywheeler7131
@tywheeler7131 Жыл бұрын
Nice analogy!
@Paulitorocks
@Paulitorocks Жыл бұрын
Facts
@MrR6guy
@MrR6guy Жыл бұрын
Its like Adam Sandler does SVU
@ryburnsjr
@ryburnsjr Жыл бұрын
Agree wholeheartedly
@solskengroupllp2758
@solskengroupllp2758 Жыл бұрын
Your narration is half the fun. That being said, years ago at the design room: "We'll use plastic. It's cheaper and no one will every know. It will save us $4 per engine!"
@JamesSterling
@JamesSterling Жыл бұрын
At Ford Quality is Job 37.
@rideon6839
@rideon6839 Жыл бұрын
@@JamesSterling At Chrysler and GM its non existent.
@stevenrice47
@stevenrice47 Жыл бұрын
@@rideon6839 Not true! Quality at Chrysler is a carefully calculated derivative of maximizing the bottom line verse staying in business. Only when they are about to go under does quality improve. See 1980 & 2010.
@andrewholdaway813
@andrewholdaway813 Жыл бұрын
$4 per engine, probably $1,000,000 over it's production life - damn right we'll use plastic.
@cammykakes5420
@cammykakes5420 Жыл бұрын
@@Krobear Doesn't work like that. They told Navistar how to build it. It is Fords fault
@The3chordwonder
@The3chordwonder Жыл бұрын
The copious use of plastic is a design feature. When the engine gets too hot from not enough oil, the plastic melts into a rudimentary oil! Genius!
@12345.......
@12345....... Жыл бұрын
There is a logic to all of it
@Dirtymaxhdt
@Dirtymaxhdt Жыл бұрын
That's Ford for ya.
@TheDesertRat31
@TheDesertRat31 Жыл бұрын
@@rydplrs71 yum!!
@harrywalker5836
@harrywalker5836 Жыл бұрын
built in safety, do the wrong thing, limp mode. such a waste of tech..
@areitu
@areitu Жыл бұрын
@Retired Bore and the plastic part was maybe a few cents cheaper…
@michaelchan8915
@michaelchan8915 Жыл бұрын
That was a walk through memory lane for me. Back when trucks with these engines were coming to dealership for work while they were still within warranty, I had LOTS of these garbage 6.4 engines apart. The failed roller lifter and damaged cam lobe is exactly why that engine ended up in your hands. Just the cost of the labour, along with the cost of all the gaskets needed to cam and lifter that engine would have either matched or exceeded the cost to outright long block the truck it came. Of course, given choice between the two, it would have been a no brainer to go with the latter of the two. As you already mentioned from the beginning of the video, cam and lifter failure were very common on these engines. On the ones coming in still within warranty, with this exact failure would have resulted in a long block replacement as already mentioned. Other common items on these engines were prematurely worn out rocker arm tips, cracked pistons from overfueling injectors as well as cavitated water pump housings on the engine front cover. A replacement front cover will have a divot in the six o'clock location of the water pump housing to mitigate a repeat of this type of failure, so it's probably not worth trying salvage and resell that front cover. BTW, the method you removed the cam from this engine is incorrect. The adapter you removed from the rear of crank to gain access to the cam gear is not supposed to be removed. This is why I used to call those six bolts the "DO NOT F*** WITH" bolts. The crank is machined from factory with that adapter bolted to it. By removing that adapter, you've essentially junked that crank, not that it matters. To access and remove the cam requires piston and rod removal, along with crank removal. So as you can imagine, the labour cost along with all the gaskets, along with the cam and lifters themselves is what made long block replacement the more cost effective route.
@BrennonCorbitt6.7
@BrennonCorbitt6.7 Жыл бұрын
I can tell you’ve had your fair share of warranty time with 6.4s back then. Must’ve been a bitch and a half. Some Great knowledge man👍🏻
@michaelchan8915
@michaelchan8915 Жыл бұрын
@@BrennonCorbitt6.7 YUP. And I don't miss working on them one bit. Trucks equipped with those engines were so bad, you couldn't GIVE me one! Ditto for E-Series vans with the 6.0L diesel. I don't miss working on them one bit! Just changing out a set of EGR and oil coolers on an E-Series van would get me coming home with my chest all bruised and scratched up.
@keithcannon3682
@keithcannon3682 Жыл бұрын
I am doing a build with the "bad 6.4" we shall see. I am pretty sure doing a full delete and tune will make all the difference. Studs and an upgraded cam...I expect it will make good power and run strong as long as a 7.3. I think the problem is all the emissions crap ,you know..egr,dpf etc .I know Ford has to put these things on for legal reasons but it just kills them and makes them completely unreliable.
@harrywalker5836
@harrywalker5836 Жыл бұрын
i dont understand, in this ??,day & age,,they still produce crap,,all manufacturers. engines these days should be bullit proof. ill keep my 351c. thrashed for 14 yrs, on lpg, with 302c heads. still starts first go. i think the oil pump is bad, running o.k, 40 ps, idle, crickets. nearly.. so much tech, goes in the bin, what happened to ''being green'',, being green is bs, as is all the climate bs,ev,s, solar wind ect. its money, nothing else..& sucker sheep..
@lostinspace699
@lostinspace699 Жыл бұрын
@@keithcannon3682 Hopefully it will go like Lesbian in a Hardware Shop ...
@thomasperina2990
@thomasperina2990 Жыл бұрын
Your indepth explanation is terrific. What I love about your channel is that you don't BS your way through a disassembly. I respect you when you say you don't know about something or how it works. Great job, TMP from N.J.
@f688xt6
@f688xt6 Жыл бұрын
That "Premium Guard" oil filter was a warning right there.
@brunowilimek2046
@brunowilimek2046 Жыл бұрын
One of my fellow Ford technicians said it best, “They made this engine 3 years too long”.
@michaelchan8915
@michaelchan8915 Жыл бұрын
That was ME Bruno.
@brunowilimek2046
@brunowilimek2046 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelchan8915 Yes it was. Chris Brady credited you with that and I love it!
@patrickmorrissey2271
@patrickmorrissey2271 Жыл бұрын
"That's a massive shaft...." Now that you have satisfied the mandatory "that's what she said" moment in the video, we can continue... Well done!
@mikeworkman3593
@mikeworkman3593 Жыл бұрын
Thats a baby engine. Last time I was at the training facility in Detroit, they had an MTU 8000 there for training. each cylinder is 8 liters. I think it was a 16 cylinder. There were 3 levels of scaffolding to get up to the top of the rocker covers.
@olivermolteno7876
@olivermolteno7876 Жыл бұрын
Blessed day when we get a 50 minute video teardown
@nathanielriedy1975
@nathanielriedy1975 Жыл бұрын
Arkansas here... Man you should do a small airplane engine that would be awesome!!
@ronald6138
@ronald6138 Жыл бұрын
See that's what i said cept not in arknsas ,
@bartonkj
@bartonkj Жыл бұрын
Would he have the patience to remove all the safety wire if he did get an aircraft engine?
@scottmillican7000
@scottmillican7000 Жыл бұрын
Someone had to have mentioned this already, but the water pump housings are prone to cavitation pitting and break-through. For the next engine teardown I vote for a Nissan VG30DETT or a VQ (any). Still love this channel!
@Jamk14
@Jamk14 Жыл бұрын
He did a vr30 I believe
@davidtappe5337
@davidtappe5337 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, I drive a Nissan Frontier.
@skimbeeble6143
@skimbeeble6143 Жыл бұрын
He did a VR30 Twin Turbo
@bryanstuart5393
@bryanstuart5393 Жыл бұрын
I'd love a VQ40 for sure
@Ninja9996
@Ninja9996 Жыл бұрын
Vg30dett would be interesting
@JT-qf4it
@JT-qf4it Жыл бұрын
I have a 08 6.4 and the lifter/ cam issue along with a blown head gasket caused me to do a rebuild. All the rocker arm tips were worn to nothing. The parts alone cost me $6500.00 with me doing all the labor. A long block cost was $13,000 at the time so I had to fix what I had. Your engine has been torn down before. The blue head gaskets are Felpro and the front crank seal is new. My truck has been running great since the rebuild and I only use synthetic oil in it.
@bobbyt3358
@bobbyt3358 Жыл бұрын
Wow 7 1/2 hours. I appreciate your time and energy to keep putting out great content.
@fredricktechsontwitter5987
@fredricktechsontwitter5987 Жыл бұрын
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@CorkySandpiper
@CorkySandpiper Жыл бұрын
There are aftermarket camshafts available that have a much smoother ramp profile on the cam lobes vs OEM. The smother ramp profiles makes them much friendlier to the lifters and rocker arms. Contrary to much of what you hear, out of fear, I tore down my 6.4 after 340,000 miles. Before it had a chance to come apart. Only 2 cylinders measured out of factory tolerances and most of the bearings and engine internals looked great. 340,000 miles, with all original internals and original injectors/ pump. This motor had regular 5k oil changes and was EGR / DPF deleted since around 60k. I installed a new smooth profile camshaft and de-lipped MaxForce pistons for assurance. Looking for another 300k.
@recker_7630
@recker_7630 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe you made it to 340000 miles before tearing into it
@honestreviews9107
@honestreviews9107 Жыл бұрын
"This motor had regular 5k oil changes and was EGR / DPF deleted since around 60K" This would be the reason yours made it as far as it did, the emissions systems are the main cause of major failure in these engines. The engine without emissions is surprisingly good.
@OffTheBeatenPath_
@OffTheBeatenPath_ Жыл бұрын
Hope you replaced the like 200 o rings. Any of which fail could nuke the whole engine.
@mike-xb9qn
@mike-xb9qn 10 ай бұрын
I rebuilt one too, I like the 6.4 people think that I'm crazy.
@benjaminderousse3297
@benjaminderousse3297 6 ай бұрын
Factory tolerance on an engine that absolutely sucked from the factory? It's not a Ford motor anyway.
@warrenb8228
@warrenb8228 Жыл бұрын
My hernia hurts just watching this tear down.
@billjenkins1416
@billjenkins1416 Жыл бұрын
I’m just going to say there was a slight “clench” when it almost rolled over while loosening the head bolts lol
@mikeworkman3593
@mikeworkman3593 Жыл бұрын
Why, it's an old core. We used to roll them around with a forklift tearing them down as an apprentice(90s). Not this engine, I never work on something that tiny.
@truckinNloving
@truckinNloving Жыл бұрын
7 minutes in and less than 1/5 of y'all have liked the video. Come on guys! This guy deserves it!
@allisonelkins1662
@allisonelkins1662 Жыл бұрын
Hey man it's difficult to like a video when it's full screen. Cut us a little slack
@antoniovillanueva308
@antoniovillanueva308 Жыл бұрын
Amen brother.
@akripper6248
@akripper6248 Жыл бұрын
I was just waiting for the 1/2 breaker bar to snap at the prongs. Good call switching to 3/4. 51 minutes of my life gone and i have no regerts.
@photoofstuff1932
@photoofstuff1932 Жыл бұрын
The water pump housing on the front cover has issues where cavitation (tiny bubbles exploding due to impeller speed) erodes the pump housing. Ford released a coolant additive that helps to reduce or eliminate it, but if you never knew about it, doesn't do ya much good.
@jeffreygoss8109
@jeffreygoss8109 Жыл бұрын
Is this how cavitation looks?
@stunessa1
@stunessa1 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreygoss8109 not really, this looks like the pump was coming apart and ate a partial vane or had a lot of bearing play and was scraping the housing, cavitation looks more like shot blasting or sandblasting but not as even and deeper, like little cavities, water is a powerful mistress under the rite conditions, it be easier to tell if cleaner with a better closeup
@keithcannon3682
@keithcannon3682 Жыл бұрын
My understanding is the factory clearances for the back of the water pump to rear wall was off. Most of the early 6.4's were like this. No...it is not rare or unusual. If you get ahold of an early water pump and do a rebuild you better check to see if the impeller even moves. I have heard tell of builders having to pull an engine back out for this very thing. The water pump on there is not oem for an early 6.4. Wondering how much you want for that studded 6.4 you have. I was going to do a build on mine but if the price is right....
@mikeworkman3593
@mikeworkman3593 Жыл бұрын
Everyone knows what cavitation is. If they don't then they have know business asking what is means. All diesels are prone to it, due to the high compression, the liners(wet liner blocks) can flex and cause pitting and failure. Yes you need to put a Nalcool type product in the coolant and check for nitrate levels during maintenance.
@Melanie16040
@Melanie16040 Жыл бұрын
@@mikeworkman3593 Gatekeeping the secret knowledge of cavitation? Seriously? Anyone who doesn't know and wants to learn should ask.
@JB-mk4ry
@JB-mk4ry Жыл бұрын
I don't have a lot to live for. For many reasons. But this situation, with an awesome teardown is a hilight of my week. Thank you.
@life_of_riley88
@life_of_riley88 Жыл бұрын
Geezus J B, I hope everything is ok, you wanna talk about it?
@johnelliott7375
@johnelliott7375 7 ай бұрын
God bless you 🙏 JB! I hope you get well soon.
@weedmakemehappy
@weedmakemehappy Жыл бұрын
Common problem of the 6.4 front cover is cavitation from the water pump that lead to filling the block with coolant
@johncoops6897
@johncoops6897 Жыл бұрын
You realise that the whole idea is to have the engine block full of coolant?
@cjm5161
@cjm5161 Жыл бұрын
@@johncoops6897 not in the timing set or the oil pan 🤡
@danielcgomez
@danielcgomez Жыл бұрын
@@johncoops6897 I think he meant to say Crankcase ...where the Oil Lubrication dwells.
@josepeixoto3384
@josepeixoto3384 Жыл бұрын
cut them a break, it is probably the first water pump the recently hired engineer designed
@budlanctot3060
@budlanctot3060 Жыл бұрын
I don't claim to be a furd 6.4 mechanic, but I used to work on marine propellers. We'd see cavitation and it ERODES metal. It does not score metal. That water pump housing looked to me like a previous water pump failed somehow and the impeller walked backwards and contacted that housing grinding/scoring that water pump housing.
@fredricktechsontwitter5987
@fredricktechsontwitter5987 Жыл бұрын
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@thomassmith4148
@thomassmith4148 Жыл бұрын
I’m sure you already know this well, but to add that for others, cavitation is kinda nuts. The fluid essentially experiences low enough pressures that bubbles form, but then experience high pressure that causes the bubbles to burst and this fucks shit up.
@gavinkeller183
@gavinkeller183 Жыл бұрын
@@thomassmith4148 yes it is. I explain it to people as tiny explosions that remove metal when they pop
@gavinkeller183
@gavinkeller183 Жыл бұрын
Yes the 6.4 suffered majorly from cavitation. The 6.0 did too. And your correct about the water pump walking. When one needs a water pump just go ahead and count on front cover replacement. 6.4 makes great power but they are time bombs.
@evangelicalsnever-lie9792
@evangelicalsnever-lie9792 Жыл бұрын
@@gavinkeller183 Do you think guys were better off sticking with their old but well maintained 7.3's or going with 6.7 and skipping 6.0 & 6.4? Of course nobody who got hosed with those two 7.3 replacements had a crystal ball. A lot of small businesses went under when those then new 6.0/6.4 trucks crapped out.
@ovaca16
@ovaca16 Жыл бұрын
When i worked at the dealership and we had the 6.0 first come in, they came in with check engine lights on, fresh off the trucks. But with 6.4s we had to push them off the truck brand new. Later revisions are great and built 6.4s are amazing but yeah, problem child.
@Bacongrease00
@Bacongrease00 Жыл бұрын
6.4 has a beefy bottom end, sometimes the pistons crack, the lifter failure on 6.0 and 6.4 is fairly common. The lifter is used in other engines but on 6.0/6.4 one lifter gets the load of two valves. Always replace lifters if you pull the engine. After 250-300k it’s a gamble. I think it was under engineered. 7.3 did not have 4 valve per cylinder. Check the oil pump section of the cover. They get scored up pretty bad due to tight tolerances.
@thatkyledude1093
@thatkyledude1093 Жыл бұрын
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR MORE DIESEL ENGINES! Also, obligatory first comment. Love the videos, and love learning what can be learned.
@ouch1011
@ouch1011 Жыл бұрын
Former diesel tech here. Most of the catastrophic failures that the 6.0 and 6.4 have are a direct result of the owner. Either from lack of maintenance or "tuning" (I use that work VERY loosely, just turning up the boost and fuel for maximum smoke production doesn't really qualify as tuning, but that is what most diesel owners do). That said, the "small" failures that these engines have (or really any modern diesel) cost literally thousands of dollars. All of the common-rail truck diesels have really common and expensive issues (and they're usually the same between all the engines), the 6.0/6.4 just had them the most often.
@justinpeterson6839
@justinpeterson6839 Жыл бұрын
6.0>6.4 any day
@harveylong5878
@harveylong5878 Жыл бұрын
rolling coal is mandatory in the hillbilly and poser community
@jamesleaty7308
@jamesleaty7308 Жыл бұрын
@@justinpeterson6839 yup. mine 375000 mi..06..6.0. 3 egr filters. A few injectors. Oil still runs clean. Gas it to keep it clean. 300 hp , can't really hurt it. No def.. The 6.0s are actually the ones to get. Just keep up with the parts. Good oil, and coolant. The only reason Ford moved out of it, was EPA beating them about emissions. AND the customers howling for more hp and torque. For me The fact that it is a high mileage diesel , the previous business did recalls , and upgraded replacement from Ford.
@buckchase1
@buckchase1 Жыл бұрын
Looking at all of this exquisite engineering, it is hard to believe that they are going to throw all of it on to the trash pile for "electric vehicle". Blows my mind...........(I am sincere. Disregard the previos two comments by other posters) Internal combustion engines are a 7th wonder of the world.
@RMosher11
@RMosher11 Жыл бұрын
Electric vehicles are a scam and a fad.
@austincjett
@austincjett Жыл бұрын
When I saw the engine of the day was going to be a 6.4 powerstroke my back started to hurt. Thanks for taking one for the team, I'm glad you had so many resaleable parts.
@yeahitskimmel
@yeahitskimmel Жыл бұрын
These are why those engine bay ladders with a platform to lay on exist
@gokartmadness3047
@gokartmadness3047 Жыл бұрын
Yes ive been waiting for a 6.0/6.4 forever
@jamesplotkin4674
@jamesplotkin4674 Жыл бұрын
Observing the wear and the grinding of metal, I'd have to assume the oil wasn't changed nearly often enough. The oil pump is shot, too. No way it can pump all that debris and not be worn. Keeping in mind oil filter by-pass happens well below operating pressure, so the trash that isn't caught, will circulate.
@melvingibson4525
@melvingibson4525 Жыл бұрын
These get really really bad oil dilution via fuel. One of the main causes for these to blow up actually. Considering the oil still in the filter housing was soupy and pungent, that's probably what blew it up.
@JJthejetplane-in7ii
@JJthejetplane-in7ii Жыл бұрын
I’m a huge fan of the light duty diesel tear downs! Keep up the great work!
@imabebebebe2496
@imabebebebe2496 Жыл бұрын
Medium duty?
@The_Fitz
@The_Fitz Жыл бұрын
Super dooty *
@capt.graybeard
@capt.graybeard Жыл бұрын
Eric you are indeed a man of your word and I greatly appreciate you bringing the Ford on and if you remember I'm a Ford man blue and blue, and I only wish you could have brought on an engine that I respected, however you brought a Ford in there and I enjoyed your quips about Ford and their engines. Keep up the good word you're a blessing to me and my wife we always enjoy watching this on Saturday night or Sunday after church!
@allenl9031
@allenl9031 Жыл бұрын
"Time for a larger hose, and a bigger impact." TWSS.
@allenl9031
@allenl9031 Жыл бұрын
Forbidden glitter, what the gf finds on your shirt after you visit the gentlemen's club. 😬
@JimmieBrown-sg8fq
@JimmieBrown-sg8fq 11 ай бұрын
Along with the smell of cheap perfume….😂😂😂😂
@HaulTrashGetCash
@HaulTrashGetCash Жыл бұрын
I like this guy, seems like down to earth straight shooter
@torresalxndr
@torresalxndr Жыл бұрын
This channel is awesome. I love watching these teardowns. I hope your channel keeps growing.
@matthewb8229
@matthewb8229 Жыл бұрын
You are correct, there IS a more techical term for the what you called the 'injector hold down brackets'. It's "Brakcet, Hold Down (Injector)". The more you know *wierd music and a star
@kingsmooth1234
@kingsmooth1234 Жыл бұрын
I’m thinking this was abuse by the owner. Looooong oil change interval and didn’t take care of it. Another great video!
@user-rn3rn6nl3h
@user-rn3rn6nl3h Жыл бұрын
They are good engines, just don't tolerate lack of maintenance.
@BudMasta
@BudMasta Жыл бұрын
@@user-rn3rn6nl3h These were deleting themselves with under 80k miles, its not a good engine at all. Did you see all the plastic?
@user-rn3rn6nl3h
@user-rn3rn6nl3h Жыл бұрын
@@BudMasta mine has 177k
@joshkey8930
@joshkey8930 Жыл бұрын
281k on mine. With many well into the 300k range on original engines. Not saying they don’t have issues, just saying there plenty high mileage 6.4s out there too.
@maxwedge5683
@maxwedge5683 Жыл бұрын
Erosion of the pump impeller from cavitation is technically due to insufficient "net positive suction head". The pressure at the inlet of the pump falls so low that the fluid will flash into vapor (steam). This can occur at room temperature and will happen more easily at higher temperatures and with changes in specific gravity of the fluid used. Of course this means virtually nothing to you but the terminology sounds so dirty I couldn't resist writing a comment.
@wallacegrommet9343
@wallacegrommet9343 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I now understand that phenomenon!
@ghostrider-be9ek
@ghostrider-be9ek Жыл бұрын
this is why I am looking at a cavitation heater for my house
@vinny143
@vinny143 Жыл бұрын
In the service , we used a coolant that was not pressurized , along with a rust prevention additive , 0% boil , no cavitation. Engine could hit 250° and wouldn't blow a hose or head gasket.
@jasonmorris2813
@jasonmorris2813 Жыл бұрын
Possibly just not correct antifreeze
@twinturbocoyoteftw
@twinturbocoyoteftw Жыл бұрын
Yes sir as a powerstroke tech for years i can say i have made a ton on these engines. Especially timing cover replacements.
@randywiltshire9708
@randywiltshire9708 Жыл бұрын
Loved this teardown! I recently bought a low mileage 6.4 Superduty and so far it's been great! It's amazing how many guys I've heard criticize this engine but then say they own one and like it? Keep tearing engines down please! I really enjoy your channel!
@4wdiesels
@4wdiesels Жыл бұрын
How many miles does it have?
@joshuaquilliam2887
@joshuaquilliam2887 Жыл бұрын
They are absolute monsters and great until they break. If you have a lift in your garage to pull the cab, and love fixing broken chit then they are great. The main issue with them is they were such a short run 08-10 that it cost a fortune to fix them. Never mind all the crap you gotta do to even reach the motor.
@jeremynapoleonkicmooperwe7601
@jeremynapoleonkicmooperwe7601 Жыл бұрын
I've heard they seem to last longer if used for work and not tuned....not being driving as a car every day
@glennk1931
@glennk1931 Жыл бұрын
Another excellent video Eric. Look forward to your new ones every weekend.
@johnelliott7375
@johnelliott7375 Жыл бұрын
They are great motors if you have the emissions and head work done. As long as you don't tune it to death and fix the short comings, as you say they run great and will last if taken care of. Thanks for sharing your work again! Great evening and weekend to you and your family.
@gorak9000
@gorak9000 Жыл бұрын
I think it's shortcomings (one word), or in this case, is it actually short-cummins?? Ok, yeah, I get it, it's not a cummins, but in this case is less (short) than a cummins
@alecchamberlain4231
@alecchamberlain4231 Жыл бұрын
Yeah except for a cp3 failure that causes 12-15k in damage.
@tylergolden8663
@tylergolden8663 Жыл бұрын
@@alecchamberlain4231 6.4s don't run a cp3
@benjaminturpin2749
@benjaminturpin2749 Жыл бұрын
@@tylergolden8663 I'm pretty sure they run a cp3. Unless they run a cp4? Which was not out at that time
@tylergolden8663
@tylergolden8663 Жыл бұрын
They run a k16 pump
@javierzamora1816
@javierzamora1816 8 ай бұрын
Had a 6.4L for 14 years and 34,500 miles, deleted at 10K. Sold it for $27,500 in 2022. It was spotless inside and out and it never saw the dealer. It was a good truck for me and pulled like a freight train. 🤷🏽‍♂️
@BigBaddaBoom
@BigBaddaBoom Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. You put a lot of time into this one, for sure.
@randygreene5977
@randygreene5977 Жыл бұрын
I worked on very large diesel generators in a past life back in the 70's, All of the diesel trucks I own all have the 7.3 power-stroke in them. I have not had any of them fail. We have had to replace the under the valve cover wiring harness on a few. The 7.3 is a International T444 with some changes made for Ford. I was disappointed to see all the failed plastic parts in this engine. I enjoy seeing the tear downs each week. Keep doing them the way you are. I like the no BS way you do them.
@randr10
@randr10 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this among other things was why Mulally (former aerospace engineer) had to come in and save Ford. These failures happened while he was there but the 6.4 was developed before he got there. His contribution was the 6.7 and we all know how that went. We can also give him credit for the 5.0 Coyote and the whole Ecoboost line. I know some people really hate the Ecoboost motors and they had some reliability issues especially early on, but overall they were a hit. Dude really knew what he was doing.
@brody4886
@brody4886 Жыл бұрын
All of internationals motors took a major downturn in the early 2000s after the 7.3 (my main truck has one) was fantastic after that the reliability only went down fast, same with the Maxxforce series
@FixItStupid
@FixItStupid Жыл бұрын
@@brody4886 EPA Dam EPA
@poubs_entertainment
@poubs_entertainment Жыл бұрын
those inter engine where crap 6.0 replace it later lol and the 6.4 after all deception in ford diesel
@brody4886
@brody4886 Жыл бұрын
@@poubs_entertainment the 7.3 was a great engine I've seen them with almost a million kilometers and the only problem with the trucks iss they are rusted right out international engines didn't turn to crap until the 6.0 then they never came back from that
@antoniovillanueva308
@antoniovillanueva308 Жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this. I do not really have a life.
@chatrkat
@chatrkat Жыл бұрын
Great tear down. I’ve wanted to see a 6.4 inside. Looks a lot different than my 7.3 for sure.
@Nostradamus_Order33
@Nostradamus_Order33 Жыл бұрын
It is an anchor compared to the 7.3
@broberts1505
@broberts1505 Жыл бұрын
My favorite saturday night viewing! I was a little bummed that there was no catastrophic damage, but still enjoyed this one! Still hoping you get any kind of VW or Audi W block.
@brendans1156
@brendans1156 Жыл бұрын
I look forward to your videos every weekend. If you can find a W11 out of a R53 Mini Cooper I’d love to see a tear down
@JamesYoung99811
@JamesYoung99811 Жыл бұрын
You put so much work and time into theses videos and are by far one of my favorite KZbinrs. Keep up the great work! Deserve so much more publicity!
@korn111685
@korn111685 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the effort you put in to produce videos like this. I really love taking things apart to understand how they work. I’ll never buy a 6.4 powerstroke for any reason! Thanks again!
@rayshutsa6690
@rayshutsa6690 Жыл бұрын
This is the first for me to see one of these engines tore down. There does not look like there is any major damage. Aĺways learning something every video. thank you for another great teardown. ❤🇨🇦
@BillWrightabc
@BillWrightabc Жыл бұрын
As always, a "great escape" for the weekend. Love the wry humor and the "impact" analysis. Learn something every week. BTW--I used to have "pet names" for some of my tools, back in the day.
@StreuB1
@StreuB1 Жыл бұрын
Wow...plastic rocker retainers. You'd think that the entire world would have learned with the old early 90's Buick 3.8L V6 that this was a bad idea. Apparently not.
@dwayneelders9523
@dwayneelders9523 Жыл бұрын
The rockers pivot on a large ball bearing. The retainers hold the assembly together when installing it. Really don’t need them once installed and the push rod is holding pressure against them. But when the lifter ground and became shorter, the ball probably fell out and the plastic broke. Just fyi. Later.
@3UZFE
@3UZFE Жыл бұрын
Designed to fail vibes.
@186scott
@186scott Жыл бұрын
@@3UZFE it is called pre programmed obsolescence and was invented but the lightbulb company osram as they realised if they knew when the lightbulb would fail they could make money from it
@Dave-dh7rt
@Dave-dh7rt Жыл бұрын
@@186scott pre programmed? Its planned lol
@186scott
@186scott Жыл бұрын
@@Dave-dh7rt yep but for some reason that is what they decided to name it pre programmed obsolescence when today we would called it planned
@CathyInBlue
@CathyInBlue Жыл бұрын
The 6.4 PowerStork is the reason when I window shop for F-250s, F-350s and Excursions, I only go from 2007 and older.
@earlscheib7754
@earlscheib7754 Жыл бұрын
Lol the 6.0 is a piece of crap too ...
@CathyInBlue
@CathyInBlue Жыл бұрын
@@earlscheib7754 But the 6.0 and 7.3 have the virtue of being bullet-proof-able. I don't think anyone tries to make the 6.4 bullet-proof when it's more like bullet-riddled.
@Stealth86651
@Stealth86651 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again for the content and teardowns, it's greatly appreciated. Especially for someone who doesn't have the time/ability to do this themself, great way to learn.
@fredricktechsontwitter5987
@fredricktechsontwitter5987 Жыл бұрын
Kindly text the number above to support the channel ^^^^^^^^^
@allenbeaulieu7077
@allenbeaulieu7077 Жыл бұрын
Hey Eric. I find you to be one smart dude. You pull stuff apart that you’ve never tackled before and bam, it’s apart clean. Great job with the Power Stroke engine bro. Excellent video. Big Al.
@allq7138
@allq7138 Жыл бұрын
I look forward to your videos every Saturday
@jamesogara2219
@jamesogara2219 Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic teardown, well done.
@jeffryblackmon4846
@jeffryblackmon4846 Жыл бұрын
This is an interesting tear-down. Thanks for the video. When I saw your 1/2 inch breaker bar start to bend, I knew those were some very tight bolts. Why don't you use an engine hoist or that fork truck to pick up those heavy parts? Take it from someone who's had back surgery and now has titanium bars on my spine, your spine isn't meant for heavy lifting. I learned the hard way.
@nigelalderman9178
@nigelalderman9178 Жыл бұрын
so did I doing lead roofing. i had to be stupid and learn the hard way. two operations and it's not bad. Eric just don't lift stuff that's too heavy, you won't get away with it.
@arpschneider
@arpschneider Жыл бұрын
Stay safe!!!
@vicferrari9380
@vicferrari9380 Жыл бұрын
We were all to tough ( read.stupid ) in our youth to listen to the old mentors that were trying to do there job and protect us from ourselves. I understand now, being that mentor that it doesn't mater what you tell the young ones. If you save a few from themselves you've done your job the best you can.
@nbrowser
@nbrowser Жыл бұрын
YAY Another episode of Eric's bad decision! Nice way to spend a Saturday night...looking for carnage!
@randr10
@randr10 Жыл бұрын
Other than that cam and lifter this was a solid core. If it was mine it would've gotten a new cam and lifters when it failed and then put back into service. He probably made out well on this one honestly.
@brody4886
@brody4886 Жыл бұрын
Generally the problem with these is not the oil pickup clogging they dilute the oil with diesel to the point where they begin to take out top end components and eat the rocker arms
@brody4886
@brody4886 Жыл бұрын
They have lots more issues than that basically all the issues that the 6.0 had they just replaced the problematic HEUI system with an even more problematic common rail system and added an oil dilution issue
@GoodBoiStuff
@GoodBoiStuff Жыл бұрын
Really doing gods work. This kind of passionate education could come in handy to somebody in a way we can’t predict
@darylmorse
@darylmorse Жыл бұрын
Great teardown! Thanks for sharing it.
@4wdiesels
@4wdiesels Жыл бұрын
Finally! I'm so excited. I don't even own one but I'll enjoy this. I've driven them all...7.3, 6.0, 6.4 and 6.7. I should've known that the "six four" would be the easiest core to find. Anyways I'm comfortable now and pressing ▶️! 🍿
@robm3357
@robm3357 Жыл бұрын
I have herd the 6.4 horror stories also. But looking at you take it apart it looks well built. The failed lifter roller was an unfortunate issue for that engine.
@magnusbrachat6256
@magnusbrachat6256 Ай бұрын
im maybe the most far away viewer (germany) of your videos and i really like them. they are based on facts, great to see the tear down, and your logic on the reasons for failure make most of the time a lot of sense to me, and im not a engine or car guy. I learn a lot here and really appriceate the time to take for this taredowns and analysis of this interesting engines. Thanks a lot. Grat achivements.
@davidbuechler6172
@davidbuechler6172 Жыл бұрын
Hello Eric from central valley CA. New to your comment section. Watched almost all of the teardown videos. I really do enjoy them. Being an old school gearhead with all the tools to do mechanical work. But also the old body that has the wear like the engines you pull apart. Can't say I'm ready for the body farm. Brings me to why I'm sending this. Lifting the crank of the 6.4 power stroke diesel the way you did. You will have a back like one of them 3 angle rods you have found. ( Those are very impressive by the way ). If you keep one on the wall or counter at the yard. Look at it to get a reference of the future!! Mine is getting a maintenence job in the very near future. The powerstroke water pump housing has same markings as a pool pump. Replaced impellers on mine but never a housing. Unless the housing cracked or melted. Again, I enjoy the chanmel.
@noahpelletier3871
@noahpelletier3871 Жыл бұрын
Pretty insane how much plastic is present in this engine. Also four bolts per cylinder is surprising too.
@Nostradamus_Order33
@Nostradamus_Order33 Жыл бұрын
Weak four bolt design
@joshmanis9860
@joshmanis9860 6 ай бұрын
My Briggs and Stratton vtwin uses 6 bolt per cylinder
@majorwedgie8166
@majorwedgie8166 Жыл бұрын
That particular lifter was made on Friday
@Mars741
@Mars741 Жыл бұрын
My wife and I love you're channel. Definitely make it easier to convince her to us good fluids and top quality parts in are vehicles.
@jeremymcauliff8485
@jeremymcauliff8485 Жыл бұрын
My parents had a 6.4 in their F450. Constant problems while they owned it with overheating and going into limp mode. It went to different shops but never got figured out. Driving empty or lightly loaded was fine. Hook it up to a 14k travel trailer and it would go into limp mode after about 1 hour of drive time. Limp mode and a 14k travel trailer is no fun.
@dannywhisnant8845
@dannywhisnant8845 Жыл бұрын
Fifteen years ago I was given a 95 Escort (1.8L manual). It had a bad knock/rattle. Lifter roller had turned sideways and broke the retainer. Lifter looked just like the failed one here, flat on the roller. Cam was scratched but serviceable. After replacing the lifter and retainer, I drove the car for 50k miles before selling it. Lifter failure happened when previous owner over-revved the engine by going into 1st gear instead of 3rd on a freeway exit. Love your content!
@DarthContinent
@DarthContinent Жыл бұрын
@33:35 I'm an IT guy, and back in the day a buddy of mine in our computer technical support shop managed to plug one of those allegedly "idiot proof" D-shaped power plugs BACKWARDS into a 250 GB hard drive, which back then was worth $250, 1:1 dollar to gig. (Mostly) he and I (suppressing laughter) watched in horror as the core of the Texas Instruments DSP chip on the drive's circuitboard turned a starry bright white as the magic smoke fled from its circuitry bonds into the ether.
@45AMT
@45AMT Жыл бұрын
These videos are awesome! Thanks for paying up for this core. Glad this one wasn't a complete disaster. although it would have made a great video. Hey look a WRX in the background!!
@gr0g88
@gr0g88 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind seeing a ford 460 or a 4.0L v6 SOHC. Really though, all videos are entertaining. Thank you
@paulschab8152
@paulschab8152 Жыл бұрын
I know we threw a 6.4 Powerstroke at our shop/trucking company in our recycling/steel roll off box. I was going to try to save and send it to you but I couldn't.
@samuelgoodman2825
@samuelgoodman2825 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for being honest and showing warts and all.
@EATSLEEPDRIVE2002
@EATSLEEPDRIVE2002 Жыл бұрын
Awesome vid as always dude 🤘 I’m glad to see the Diesel Trifecta finally complete.
@tedheierman1181
@tedheierman1181 Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine trying to remove those head bolts while the engine is still installed in a vehicle?
@calholli
@calholli Жыл бұрын
The cleaner pistons can be from a small head gasket leak--- the coolant will steam clean the piston.
@MAINTMAN73
@MAINTMAN73 Жыл бұрын
Yes, that's what happens on the 6.oh when the EGR cooler fails.
@31dknight
@31dknight Жыл бұрын
Another great teardown video. Thanks
@mysock351C
@mysock351C Жыл бұрын
Nice! Its Bill @ PSH's favorite Ford/Navistar diesel engine! Liked them so much he had to quit working on them.
@elGamiReal
@elGamiReal Жыл бұрын
Ive been waiting for a bad diesel engine. I cant wait till you get a variable compression engine especially the nissan 2.0 those are dropping like flies supposedly
@CaptainSpadaro
@CaptainSpadaro Жыл бұрын
Lemme guess, people aren't changing the oil on a regular basis...
@derekfriday7931
@derekfriday7931 Жыл бұрын
A Nissan customer not properly maintaining a vehicle? Say it ain't so
@elGamiReal
@elGamiReal Жыл бұрын
Most neglected nissans are the volume cars and the 2.5s. the 2.0 vc turbo are in Infinitis and the altima vc turbo which are pretty rare. ive also witnessed one lock up in under 30k miles and it was the elderly couple's second engine.
@elGamiReal
@elGamiReal Жыл бұрын
Given how new they are and high failure rates i doubt he'll have easy access to one since the dealers might get them first
@g1channel
@g1channel Жыл бұрын
Use a razor or a wire wheel to get the carbon off the cylinder walls at the too of the bores. Helps out alot with getting pistons out.
@gregoryweber7408
@gregoryweber7408 Жыл бұрын
thanks again for investing that much time in a tear down, it always amazes me how filthy diesel engines get after being used, and thank you again for the lesson in component failure and the carnage it causes
@Duken4evr29
@Duken4evr29 Жыл бұрын
Remove EGR from the equation and diesels are much cleaner running than what we have here.
@davekimbler2308
@davekimbler2308 11 ай бұрын
my 2 cents worth .... i own a 6.4 and its truly a beast ( nothing on the road can beat it around here ! i deleted the DPF and EGR and installed a S and S tuner , i have driven diesels all my life and this one feels like a sports car that weights 4 ton. i intend on rebuilding it at or around the 250,000 area !
@Thedoug369
@Thedoug369 5 ай бұрын
Only problem is that 6.4s really can't be rebuilt. Once you get it apart you'll quickly see that not much is good and parts super expensive for these engines. They were basically designed to be 150k throw away engines. You can buy a complete replacement crate engine from Ford for around $17k, but the kicker is that if you delete it which is the only way they will last, Ford won't warranty it if it breaks ( which it probably won't actually if you're good on the fluid changes.)
@fascistpedant758
@fascistpedant758 Жыл бұрын
I recommend that you get a second pry bar and pry both sides of what you're trying to remove. Most of what you spend time moving from side to side on would come out much faster if you would pull them out straight. Great videos! Thanks.
@fredricktechsontwitter5987
@fredricktechsontwitter5987 Жыл бұрын
Kindly text the number above to support the channel ^^^^^^^^
@NousagiMechanic
@NousagiMechanic Жыл бұрын
Uhhhhh did anyone else notice that the last person to do an oil change combined the single-use style cap with the replaceable-element style filter? I'm about 99% those don't seal together properly.
@brianjay692
@brianjay692 Жыл бұрын
Sending 1% vibes your way ⬆️
@ziplokk1453
@ziplokk1453 6 ай бұрын
When you tapped that back plate with the hammer on each side, it sounded like the beginning of the ZZ Top song, Rough Boy. Very cool video.
@matthewkelleyhotmail
@matthewkelleyhotmail 3 ай бұрын
I call this the Adam Sandler channel. Thank you so much for the time and effort to bring this video to us. Great video!!
@intimidatorno3ca
@intimidatorno3ca Жыл бұрын
Need to get your hands on a FA24D. These things have been making headlines. Especially if they have a clogged oil pickup from the factory.
@jeramiahgainey3177
@jeramiahgainey3177 Жыл бұрын
Another cool tear down, if you get a chance how about a 3 liter duramax. I have one in my 2020 Silverado, runs great with good torque. Would love to see one like it taken apart. Keep the Saturday night videos coming Eric and I'll keep watching.
@MowerModdin
@MowerModdin Жыл бұрын
I want to see one of those too. I'm scared for you about the oil pump belts on your 3.0L diesel though...my dad has a Ford 1.0L EcoBoom with the same problem. Hopefully there's a retrofit from somewhere that allows you to put a chain on there or something
@jamesgeorge4874
@jamesgeorge4874 Жыл бұрын
Considering the move to a rubber belt, submerged in engine oil, to drive the literal pump that supplies the life blood of all ICE's , I'm sure the oppourtunity is coming.
@StillShatter
@StillShatter Жыл бұрын
"I, I...that was totally perfect.........just perfect" 🤣 You always manage to make me laugh in everyone of you're videos even on really bad days, I appreciate all the effort you put in making these vids!!!
@stephentreadwell8436
@stephentreadwell8436 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Great job making engine disassembly entertaining
@BAJARACER43X
@BAJARACER43X Жыл бұрын
The egr system ends up turning the oil into soot, so the oil quits being oil and turns into a soot / oil mixture and doesnt lubricate very well
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