I've been watching your vids on youtube for a coule of days now, and being a 74 year old retired remodeler, I really enjoy your vids because it makes me feel like I'm back at work again..... Thanks, Tim Clements
@bondobuilt38611 ай бұрын
Thanks Tim I am glad you are enjoying the videos brother.
@JamesMCrutchley11 ай бұрын
I am enjoying the video. 18 minutes in. I have no idea what you are doing. I have zero knowledge of this stuff. So watching what you do is like seeing a puzzle and you are putting the pieces together.
@bondobuilt38611 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. Glad you enjoyed it.
@rickallen9382 Жыл бұрын
I am amazed at th comments. Most of the remarks are from someone in different states, with different codes. Some are from people with no clue about building. It all looks good to me and your job was inspected and passed. So anyone saying its not proper, lives in a bubble.
@lindamastropietro442911 ай бұрын
You certainly can’t depend on the inspector
@stich1960 Жыл бұрын
Im proud of biscuit wearing a respirator, we all need to collectively take better care of ourselves in construction, I am slowly unlearning all the terrible safety practices old timers have taught me lol.
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
I bought all the guys respirators. My buddy dad was a mason and died from lung issues.
@RHEC1776 Жыл бұрын
@bondobuilt386 where's tuna
@gmjent5671 Жыл бұрын
Safety third
@gargar8196 Жыл бұрын
Most of the old timers didn’t have too many choices. Either they did the job or they were fired and replaced. There was hardly any safety. Most learned to do what they were told or find another job. And a lot of the time construction jobs were far and few between. But there is always a boss under pressure to complete the job that will look the other way to get the job done . So it’s a two sided coin
@markB40 Жыл бұрын
Bit of water would have stopped most of that dust
@russellgilson4072 Жыл бұрын
Bondo you're a good mason, I followed my father in law a master mason for 30 years. He was a expert mason, your movements and laying block remind me of him!
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment buddy. I love this work.
@gjones5153 Жыл бұрын
I use 1/4” hardboard to cover the block holes that way the slab can shrink without grabbing the blocks or cracking the floor
@nbco5516 күн бұрын
Yep, or expansion foam.
@NAMCBEO Жыл бұрын
I am so glad we do not have to deal with frost lines down here on the Gulf coast ! We just scratch out a 16 x15 slot for single story, 20 w x 24 d for a 2 story and call it good. You guys do beautiful work that no one will see in the end.
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ya it does suck sometimes to bury all our nice work but at least now I can show you guys on KZbin. LOL
@Happyfeet3 Жыл бұрын
Great job bondo, love the step by step explaining 👍🏾
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Glad to help.
@jimanderson4495 Жыл бұрын
Good job Ron. It’s a Saturday night here in suburban Philly. The wife is watching a chick-flick and I’m watching Bondo content. Life is good. Thanks.
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Thanks uncle Jim. I am in Misouri hunting deer so been a little slow getting the videos out but glad you enjoyed it my friend. 😀
@alphonseroy421 Жыл бұрын
When we use to core fill we would always use a large orange road cone as a funnel ,making sure that we cut the top of the cone so it was just a bit smaller then the core of the block so not to restrict the flow of the concrete into the core of the block 👍 , it worked great as a time saver for sure 👍 !
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Thanks I am going to try that.
@bigpaddy836311 ай бұрын
You man Biscuit looks like good worker 👍
@mrtechie681010 ай бұрын
So that's who took the traffic cones!😂
@dogpatch7511 ай бұрын
Its good to see Bondo documenting the reason we have building regs and inspectors. Whoever built this house is long gone, but the house they put on that skimpy foundation is likely full of cracked walls, sloping floors, and doors that don't work properly. Buildings usually outlive the folks who build them. At least here, future generations of owners will be purchasing a well built structure for their cars! Progressive thinkers support sensible community building standards. Libertarian thinking would bring us half the population living in shanties with their sewage straight piped into the creek!
@daviddesilva4971 Жыл бұрын
Great job by the Bondo crew. Thxs for the vids!
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Thanks David.
@joet4806 Жыл бұрын
You are a True Professional! You have a great Team too! Wish more Contractors follow you.
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe.
@johnpyle8027 Жыл бұрын
When I was still laboring for my dad back in the 80s we would have had the mixer running and using Portland to fill all the cavities with wheelbarrows! It's interesting seeing how things are done in other parts of the country, we are in Missouri. We didn't do many jobs like this, noone would and if we did we were well paid. You have carved out a nice niche I imagine. Keep your guys happy, noone want's to work this hard anymore.
@chrisjackson910211 ай бұрын
Very informative video, thank you for taking the time to film and post. I always wondered how, sequence wise, a block wall tied into a footer.
@wf7183 Жыл бұрын
Ron I love the fact you go the extra mile to save some money....👍 Bill on Oneida Lake and spring will be here soon
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill. I'm in Misouri hunting. We will get a plan for you when I get back. I'm off all winter. LOL
@erikpound528511 ай бұрын
Thanks Bondo, I really enjoy watching your videos.
@tcb069 Жыл бұрын
been watching a few years now, another great job by the bondo boys , always interesting , like the way you explain the steps of the job , beer thirty 🍺🍺🍻🍻 you deserve it
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment and staying with us for a couple years that makes name smile.
@TheChaztor Жыл бұрын
Makes me proud to see some quality work coming out of Oswego county. : )
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Thanks we try and do our best job possible.
@anthonypowless Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your videos, my brother's did cement forming/finishing for 40-50 years in Vancouver...one still works at it, the other's knees are shot...and life goeth on...
@stillraven9415 Жыл бұрын
It's a beautiful thing watching professionals that work well together. Everyone dose whatever needs to be done like a dance 🕺
@darrelwilson2875 Жыл бұрын
You folks do an outstanding job. I always learn something new.
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Thanks I am glad you guys are enjoying it. It is satisfying to know that.
@davidrehaluk862010 ай бұрын
Except for the dry cutting cement n beating the ahit out of the bucket it’s mint 😊
@bondobuilt38610 ай бұрын
Ya we usually spray water on the blade. I think we got in a hurry to get it demo on this one. @@davidrehaluk8620
@StanleyRusso-eg7dr11 ай бұрын
As an old concrete guy, you did a very good job.
@bondobuilt38611 ай бұрын
Thanks 😀
@hhhhh-bz5ue10 ай бұрын
Very nice work guys! Clean, accurate, and professional!
@e.s.l.1083 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed every minute! gorgeous... to observe guys creating STUFF Personal Story: this morning 🌄 i noticed a new door (with frame attached) proped against my neighbors house - in awe i looked at that THING - 😳 This thought filled my brain: 'My God, i love MEN - because, i sure couldnt move THAT door.' With the absense of strength, if i had to move that door, i would be met with my height of incompetence. That said, your gas powered dinosaurs 🦕 were SUPER fun to watch. Great Job - Great heart felt attention to detail! Your crews always seem to be 'generous of spirit'. Its life affirming. Thanks for warming my heart... Take Care!
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words. I am glad you and others are enjoying the content. 😄
@Jayday707 Жыл бұрын
I watch Victory Rick Thomas Odell all of the guys but Ron is the best most informative concrete videos out. And you can see hes going through the same issues regualar foundation guys are with the cost of nudura vs block. I just like to see guys who have to role with the punches and still win without having 400k subs. Seems like Ron would thrive with our without youtube but he still puts out these amazing videos.
@PelicanIslandLabs Жыл бұрын
Seeing that heritage block wall makes me feel not so bad about how I built mine. 🤣
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
The old walls were a bit rough. LOL
@aday1637 Жыл бұрын
I bought a house where the builder had left a brick ledge on the foundation then never installed the brick. Then came back and poured a slab in front including the brick ledge. Over time the slab settled and pulled the block wall foundation out on an angle In the basement the wall was tilted out about halfway up where the mortor broke straight across. I had to have it excavated on the outside, slab removed, sured up the structure and removed and replaced the block. All this because they poured into the brick ledge. So I can attest to what you said about covering the block holes before pouring the slab.
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
I try to tell everybody not to do that.
@josephrottina1901 Жыл бұрын
Nice work brother.👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy 😃
@CrookedSkew11 ай бұрын
01:22 is a genius way of getting that slab into the bucket without having your fella lift it - chapeau! I like your Pythagoras Theorem triangles - 6-8-10 or 3-4-5. This is a really educational vldeo, thanks.
@garybarkley2286 Жыл бұрын
Looking good as always guys can’t wait to see it all done
@hebrewhomesteadupdatewalee83035 ай бұрын
Learn a lot watching your videos
@majorpayne5289 Жыл бұрын
👍Awesome work. It’s good to see professionals doing their job. I suspect you pros don’t think something like this is cool as it comes together. Myself, now, just being a regular dude looking in and seeing how the puzzle comes together… well, I think you guys are awesome in seeing the end project. VISION & Experience! My industrial-commercial refrigeration big jobs were same but long retired now. Kudos to the working man 👍🇺🇸Blessings to you all!
@Gman2930 Жыл бұрын
That old block wall looks like a Ray Charles/Stevie Wonder special!! Unbelievable
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
You can't make this shit up when its on video. LMAO
@samcooke2742 Жыл бұрын
Biscuit is the American working man.
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Yes he is. He loves this work as I do as well
@ronaldcrowder40411 ай бұрын
Love how all you guys work together like a fine oiled machine !
@alanclark63911 ай бұрын
That's much better! I was very critical of American standards on another of your videos - so take some praise for this job. Still think the "footer" or footings as we'd say wouldn't pass our Regs for a chicken coup - not in that sand! Our minimum depth is FOUR FEET - my last job before retiring was eleven - yep, you read it right eleven feet down and three wide completely filled with concrete - just on £9000 worth, all for a free standing brick built garage. We have auger type mixed on site wagons for most domestic jobs now - so called Dail-a-Mix lorries -the idea of which came from America - bit ironic if you don't have them. Depending on requirement, the concrete is roughly £230 per metre cube and going up by the day, price of cement has doubled since Brexit! You are a First Class block layer but you didn't need me to say that - credit where it's due - most people couldn't so much as pick that number up in a day. However: again - our Regs would insist all those voids filled. Our P.V.C. D.P.C. has to be 1000 gauge all edges have to be turned up and tape sealed at corners. Reinforcing mats have to be supported on wire chairs at a specific height and the rod size in the mats are much weightier. If you think this is rather over the top - so do we!
@bondobuilt38611 ай бұрын
Wow thats crazy. Hard to make money building to those specs. Thanks for the comments.
@alanclark63911 ай бұрын
Well, I've not done so bad😜😜😜 Judging by a few of your asides about "the householder" I reckon you have to do the same - be choosey whom you work for and I'm very fortunate in geography - I live very close to very expensive real estate. Mind you - some of these guys need watching the most! I do have a collection of bounced cheques ( yes we spell funny, I know) And for much of my life - I've been the specifier and only sold on the finished product - if you wannit - that's the price! I'm going to work my way through all your videos - so keep up the content!
@edwardbloom3899 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see ya Billy, keep your chin up.
@joehrlein84710 ай бұрын
Nice job on the cinder blocks.
@GTL779 ай бұрын
See you fill them barrels remind me of this time i did a foundation on a island and had to barge all the barrels across 😂 that was the toughest foundation i have ever done 😂
@bondobuilt3869 ай бұрын
Oh that had to suck. What a hard job that must have been. But satisfying.
@Praterphil Жыл бұрын
All us Pro's watch you Bondo!
@chriskennedy7262 Жыл бұрын
i love learning this stuf bondo :)
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
So glad to teach you guys. Thanks for the comment.
@macmac1022 Жыл бұрын
Sand is so awesome to work with though, pounding pegs is soo much easier even if they need to be longer. Pounding pegs into clay with rocks in it is a nightmare.
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Agreed but the only pain is the cave ins if you don't dig it wide and shelf it.
@macmac1022 Жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386 >>Agreed but the only pain is the cave ins if you don't dig it wide and shelf it."" For sure. I hardly ever got to work in sandy conditions, like maybe 5 times. Most times it was stupid blue clay with some rocks in it, GRRRRRRRR. Makes it hard to get the peg nice and flat to the forms and in my cousins words, squared to the world LOL.
@paulgilliland2992 Жыл бұрын
Exceptional work there Bondo . Wish you were in California.
@nathang.1561 Жыл бұрын
i setup and strip with the same dewalt 90 degree attachment. for driveways it saves about six inches on either side from having to be excavated
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Love it. Big Biscuit bought it for my birthday.
@davidfletcher5669 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you drive past Caughdenoy VFD Westside station!
@donaldmendes18411 ай бұрын
In California and Nevada you put verdict and horizon rebar , plus if tie into existing foundation you have drill , epoxy rebar on tie on existing structures., ever cell in block get concrete also.
@papagator700711 ай бұрын
I've been doing this type of work for a long time and you fellas do great work plus you all seem so easy going 👍 I could totally work with you guys 😁
@GraemeCoulter Жыл бұрын
Chopped off traffic cones make good funnels for filling blocks.
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Good tip. Thanks
@stevenpringle7813 Жыл бұрын
I never liked block walls. I have seen so many that fall apart. I had to do one under an existing addition and I put rebar in every cell and filled every one with concrete.
@johnkayak10 Жыл бұрын
Nice work!
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Thanks John.
@TheStevedie Жыл бұрын
Great job guys! I had no idea people still used CMU's for foundations. I thought everyone did solid pours. Learn something new everyday lol
@buildingparadisePH11 ай бұрын
Solid pours are stronger
@oldtimefarmboy61711 ай бұрын
Sandy soil, like clay soil, always results in more settling than people would like. Good to see that you are installing footers wider than what was installed on the house. But has anyone there ever tried installing helical piers and then building footers on top of the piers? They would definitely do a great deal to prevent buildings from from settling more than even the widest footers. But what would the cost of doing that be there? Would it be worth the cost?
@rayjackson454711 ай бұрын
nice job and explanation. I was surprised you did not seal the outside walls. I know its crawl space but the tar will keep moisture out of the block
@SIE44TAR11 ай бұрын
Not a crawlspace, a garage floor. Watch it to the end. It all gets backfilled. The footer is that deep because of frost line requirements. He talks about the free-draining sandy soil so maybe has something to do with not sealing it. Here in East Tennessee I've pulled 40 yr-old CMUs out of clay soil that were pretty degraded, so I've sealed the last few foundation walls I've built.
@jameswebb3867 ай бұрын
Great content! Why no drain tile around outside of footing?
@meadowsirl10 ай бұрын
Holy crap, that looks like overkill to me.
@davidevans474 Жыл бұрын
Looks good you guys do good work
@wilson245510 ай бұрын
were the home owners not expecting you or just simply couldn't be bothered tidying the site? Disgusting !
@markplaton84 Жыл бұрын
We learn from the best perfecto work :)👍
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😃
@whatsfordinner21 Жыл бұрын
just a tip to keep dust down is a pump sprayer. Up here in Canada we are mandated to not create dust like that, its a pretty simple cheap solution. you guys rock
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip. I actually have a Dewalt Backpack sprayer I could use for that.
@IcelanderUSer Жыл бұрын
All that sand must have come from an ancient glacial lake when an ice sheet blocked the St Lawrence River.
@tracymankey9314 Жыл бұрын
Biscuit is a hard worker the other man is too
@stevestillplaysgames5732 Жыл бұрын
I think the guy who laid that block had at least a couple of 12 packs before he got started for the day that is the worst block laying job I have ever seen lol but your work looks great
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Thanks bud. Made me LOL when I dug that shit up. Thats why I had to say he was drinking. LMAO
@mark7719311 ай бұрын
Or it was someone's first attempt at block laying.@@bondobuilt386
@PaulTasillo10 ай бұрын
Great job building the block foundation wall. Upstate NY is cold in the winter. You say you will place 6 mil poly under the poured garage floor. Why no insulated blue board, under the floor? If the owner install future heating, he'll always have a COLD floor.
@robertwilder442510 ай бұрын
I like your job man , I subscribed in your Chanel, happy new year, today is 12/31/23
@alirE2904 Жыл бұрын
I havent seen work this good since 1962. You would be appalled at the way footings are made in san antonio texas. Builders there are an embarrassment
@mmiller1188 Жыл бұрын
Is that house on a slab too? Or is that just some sort of addition in the front? I'd hope the whole house isn't as sketchy as that back entry room thing.
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Its all on a stem wall.
@arnoldromppai5395 Жыл бұрын
Man it blows me away the lack of building code. In usa You back filled the footings. No 4" drain tile an 1/2" washed stone. Here in north western Ont.. any footing below grade or on grain must have 4" black drain tile. Some require with sock an some not. And set at bottom of footer an back filled 16" deep 1/2 washed crushed stone with fabric over top stone. Even were its a garage were the center is compacted gravel to the top of block or sold wall and drain out or to a sump.. even drain tile under cement floor in an X hooked to outer drain tile an 16" stove washed over floor drain tile over whole floor area. Weather shop pad basement floor attached garage. We're I live no building permits needed but I still did all the drainage tile. What no parging an tar on out side wall. All back fill with in 3 feet of basement walls below grade walls is back fill clean sand up on the walls. Camp off with clay or road graval . You can't put native dirt with in 3 feet of wall. Native dirt like a big Jake an pushes walls in
@willicat4411 ай бұрын
When did you drill the footing for rebar? After the block was laid with a 4 foot drill bit? I missed that part...
@bondobuilt38611 ай бұрын
No we drill them after we lay the second course.
@tpep1693 Жыл бұрын
Put's some water on that saw, it's a lot nicer.
@mattwirtanen887211 ай бұрын
Trick that works well…instead of chipping a hole and looping a chain on the concrete, drill 1/2” holes and spin in hilti bolts( screws) through the chain links and lift out the chunks with you machine. Bolts can be used again and again.
@prazgzs-etagnroht500511 ай бұрын
What about the waterproofing of the exterior block before back filling? Water is just gunna soak those bricks and cause major issues for the home owners... unless, of course, it's not required... but why not go the extra mile.. .you already see how the house was built...make your foundation and building last forever, even after the house rots away! Just asking for a friend 😊
@scotthultin7769 Жыл бұрын
106 👍's up BB thank you for sharing 😊
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott 😃
@MikeDodds Жыл бұрын
Dude is driving the shiz out of that Kubota!!! 😂
@mcurtis60011 ай бұрын
It’s funny how many comments about no rebar and other crap. Maybe if you actually listened and watched more of the video you’d get it.
@Pablo-nw8cy10 ай бұрын
Just asking didnt see video of footing drain
@bondobuilt38610 ай бұрын
No drain here it was like 8 feet deep sand and nowhere to take a drain to daylight. It is real dry at this job.
@terryhawkins429510 ай бұрын
Is a bond beam with rebar at the top of the wall not common in your area? It's a must here in iowa with our crazy winters. Just curious
@claytonsimplot9554 Жыл бұрын
When you said he wasn't quite ready you were being nice.
@jc438811 ай бұрын
Right there damn, pour the driveway too!
@ChristianWagner888 Жыл бұрын
That old "footer" you dug up was just 4 to 6 inches without rebar. Was that previously holding up a doghouse? 😉 The new footer looks more solid than the one for the main house. But was there no need to vibrate the concrete?
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Yes that old footer was a joke and no we do not vibrate footers. You could if you wanted to. We build out footers bigger than code requires.
@Kushert Жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386 Yup. Got to be careful vibrating all that aggregate to the bottom.
@user-nq7rz4do3g10 ай бұрын
What size rebar did you use in the foundation...#4 or #5? Also, you may in the future consider buying a small line pump or grout hog. Do you guys ever run a reinforced bond beam course on the CMU foundation walls?
@christophereverett5695 Жыл бұрын
if your building a garage i hope you plan on taking out all the dirt with roots in it or otherwise it will just grow back thru
@MrKevinfogo10 ай бұрын
Question. Why no rebar sticking up from the foundation into the blocks? Wouldn’t that help keep the wall from “moving”?
@eduardfrazao3506 Жыл бұрын
Good job
@hhhhh-bz5ue10 ай бұрын
I just noticed in the video, you were on caughdenoy Rd. I live in camillus, not too far away.
@ditherdather Жыл бұрын
I'm curious. It looked at a glance like the siding currently sits a little lower than the new floor presumably will. Will you or the homeowner remove the bottom row of siding before pouring the floor, or is that not an issue? I used to pour basement walls when I was young, but I have no experience doing flatwork.
@songwriteroneill10 ай бұрын
Termites can come up through open block, but I’m on the coast in a moist area.
@bondobuilt38610 ай бұрын
We do not have termites here in upstate New York.
@butopiatoo Жыл бұрын
LOVE YOU ALL!!!!
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🤩
@JohnWatets11 ай бұрын
I live just north of oneida lake what would the cost of a 30x60 mono slab with pex piping for radiant floors?
@bondobuilt38611 ай бұрын
Hi. It's impossible to throw out a number on a project. There are too many variables. The biggest being access to pour the slab. Also no telling how the dirt guys will leave the rough grade. Sometimes we have to completely redo the gravel work because it is such a mess. I always go look at projects before giving out a price. You could send me an email if you want us to look at the job. If you are not to far from me
@robertnash24462 ай бұрын
When you cut that concrete you should find a way to water it down while cutting....so you dont dust out the whole house and everything.
@Mike-o4u2g5 ай бұрын
How do you pull a random square? You didn’t just pick a piece of the house to go off of?
@justme-2711 ай бұрын
Beer 30 is my favorite time of day
@bobsuranus Жыл бұрын
Dusty Rhodes is workin concrete!
@Grendelbc Жыл бұрын
Curious. Why not build up your footer to put concrete under the jutting end of the house foundation wall instead of using a block there? No wire mesh in the block wall?
@briankulp9597 Жыл бұрын
house looks like it leaning front to back
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
The house was a mess. Whoever built it did not have a clue.
@frankgrant4784 Жыл бұрын
No vert rebar in the concrete block or keyway?
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
WE put verticals in every 4 feet as shown and they were drilled into footer and solid core filled.
@frankgrant4784 Жыл бұрын
Here in California perhaps because of the earthquake code they require the rebar placed with the footing pour every other cell. When using concrete blocks every cell gets filled with grout mix, with additional rebar placed horz usually every 4'-0".
@hermanheine329111 ай бұрын
every part of the US has different specs for the terrain and weather. Less in Florida and more in California. Every place does it differently and they get the same result. Great job! I have been a mason for 30-plus years. You guys are very hard workers
@SirHarryHardOn10 ай бұрын
Why not use a dust suppression pump? Good work though guys.
@bondobuilt38610 ай бұрын
Thanks I do not have one. Never heard of it either.
@rossnolan2883 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations 🎉 😅
@strykerv1620 Жыл бұрын
buy a re-useable concrete block form. 2*2*6. takes 1 yard. on jobs your going to short load order extra and make a block. use jt at shop or sell it.
@terrydougherty707811 ай бұрын
😊no vibration of the core fill. Premature backfilled
@nickwalters347811 ай бұрын
Hacks. When cutting concrete you need to use water or have a contained breathing apparatus. Per osha. You never heard of siliconoisos.
@wskripka110 ай бұрын
How long from poring g the footing to laying blocks?
@bondobuilt38610 ай бұрын
We started the same day. Maybe 5 hours after the pour. It was a little soft though. The next day is always good.