Tech That Needs To Be Left In 2024! | GMBN Tech Show 365

[@gmbntech]

What tech would you leave in 2024?

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

Nothing against high pivots in general but we don't need them on trailbikes, neither mass dampers, headset cable routing and finally batteries! Have EMTBs power all the gadgets but a normal mtb shouldn't need any power.

[@DNDinitials]

Headset cable routing for sure and dedicated mullet bikes since I like full 29

[@uldi1s]

Short cranks, high rise bars and ultra low Bb's

[@mitch_smith]

Solo Air rear shocks on mid to high end bikes. C'mon folks, let them go!

[@digital.olimon]

Overpriced bikes

[@Marionetax]

@@digital.olimon and this depends only on us….

[@erictrelz3519]

Amen!

[@andersonsridebikes]

“2 trends that need to stay in 2024. High pivots and low power bikes. Now check out this awesome high pivot, lightweight E bike from deviate.” -GMBN Tech 😂

[@InitialP_Photography]

Haha, it was a bit like "Doh!"

[@IdrisFashan]

So funny!

[@KevinT3141]

Right?

[@jaysee2213]

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ haha

[@AnnaOnTheBike]

Hahahaha you got me there ;)

[@MTMXBL]

Cables routed through headset needs to go...

[@FIGHTTHECABLE]

Naah I like that. Bikes look so much cleaner. Does your car have its brake lines routed on the outside?

[@john_john_john]

How does it look so much cleaner? The cables enter the frame a few cms higher than they otherwise would and it makes mundane maintenance tasks require brake bleeding. Massive downside with an upside nobody notices nor asked for, basically another instance of the industry pushing more complexity to justify the absurd prices.

[@shanehunt595]

@@FIGHTTHECABLE technically the brake lines on a car are outside albeit under the wheel arches and they definitely aren't routed through the damn steering rack are they

[@setransou]

100%

[@mtbboy1993]

Absolutely. If not at least there's other brands to opt from, thus these brands make people go for different brands which is good for those brands. I got Nicolai/Geometron, only has internal dropper routing. but shifting and brakes is external as it sohuld be. It doesn't even make it look that clean. Not worth the hassle .

[@setransou]

Wireless only frames

[@mtbboy1993]

Which brand did that? I've never seen that.

[@Meatballs.933]

Specialized with the new stumpy 15 carbon frames, and the new Bronson cc frame has no wired compatibility

[@YetAnotherShadowBannedAccount]

@@mtbboy1993 Specialized - all their stumpy 15 carbon models they first released were wireless only.

[@mtbboy1993]

@YetAnotherShadowBannedAccount nah, internal routing. Wireless is different it means no wires at all.

[@YetAnotherShadowBannedAccount]

@@mtbboy1993 The carbon frame was made exclusively for wireless. Might want to google if you don't believe me.

[@grongrod]

Ridiculous prices can stay in 2024.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Only if governments stop borrowing trillions from the Fed.

[@InitialP_Photography]

I hope 2025 brings an end to people saying an old 90's mtb with curly bars is a "GrAvEl BiKe bUiLd".

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Amen to that.

[@robbchastain3036]

@@InitialP_Photography For sure, full-rigid '90s MTBs must have flat bars and grip shifters to qualify as OG gravel bikes. 😀

[@RichardMaguire110]

The upgraded rear derailleur was done in the 80's. I am with Anna on removing complexity.

[@BlackFlag94]

Instant thumbs up when I see you two together!! Fun.. just fun.. I love it!

[@markappleyard8467]

Never moved away from single pivot. First was Marin then onto Orange 🍊. Simple and works.

[@frankharradence732]

My 2023 Atherton AM.130 six-bar design works so very well and has needed nil attention during this time. No play in the linkages and all as smooth as the day I collected the bike. Based on my personal experience 6 bar gets my vote...the ride quality uphiil, downhill and everywhere else is brilliant 😃

[@Velo1010]

I still can’t believe we are already in 2025. God, time flies. This year I hope to ride more than in 2024.

[@rottieshepcalibre9156]

Great show guys. My favorite pairing ❤ I’d leave carbon mtb frames behind. In my eyes they’re for the pro’s, the rich and the sponsored.

[@rusty2222]

Frames with no cable ports. Lousy development.

[@fen2453]

Electric only frames.

[@ralphcrosby4051]

Thank you lady and gentleman enjoy the tech .The both of you are definitely my tech support and go to site .looking forward to more and what the new year brings in the sport of mountain biking

[@nigelrandtoul8646]

Headset routing.... solving a problem that doesn't exist and creating more problems

[@ChrisCapoccia]

not that interested in edible wrapper. one real benefit from the wrapper is keeping what you eat clean. if you eat the wrapper, then you're eating the outside dirty bit too :P

[@joedesimone1444]

Agreed. Nothing like a tuft of pocket lint to add flavor and fiber to the energy bar. A fully biodegradable wrapper would make more sense vs. edible.

[@fen2453]

A proper axle path requires either 6 bar and extra bearings and pivots, or single pivot and an idler. Pick one. I prefer high pivot with an idler over 18 bearings.

[@foztex]

Owen XT: I agree, it`s the lever not the dérailleur that makes the difference. Did a new budget build with Deore 11spd and was never happy with it compared to my XT11 daily rider, less fluid shifting and sometimes felt not quite aligned, changed just the selector to XT and it became buttery smooth

[@tygastfield613]

I LOVE my high pivot bike!

[@Velo1010]

Yea they do look killer. I think they should stay.

[@h4tm4z]

We all want to see realistic pricing, but I agree with Owen especially on the mixed groupsets. If anything, label a bike as NX/Deore and surprise me with a GX/SLX shifter!

[@bionic909]

Why would you eat a wrap? Might aswell not have any wrapping.

[@KevinT3141]

And how clean is the inside of your pocket or backpack?!?

[@RowlandtheBastard]

@@KevinT3141exactly

[@payneridesbikes]

Still riding my now 10 year old 2015 specialized enduro. I would actually enjoy an emtb, but I doubt that's in the cards this year

[@tim__sadler]

Happy New Year Crew

[@gmbntech]

Happy new year Tim!

[@elrictdb]

I've encountered the SRAM brakes swapping which side advances unevenly before and after a bleed. I was at a loss for ages til I came across a video where a Racing Team tech (sorry can't remember which one) would use a screwdriver to push the pad backplate (thus the pistons) back, re-align and repeat until the rotor was nicely aligned in the center of the caliper. I see this as a quick and dirty (literally if you use a dirty screwdriver or accidentally scratch the braking surface) way of achieving the same as the pad advancement technique on a freshly bled system and with new pads. Pad advancement with wheel out, I feel, works best with part worn pads as you have to get both left and right pistons to advance very slightly overcoming what feels like some initial stiction (spelling?). Same feel on G2, elixirs and juicys to date.

[@markappleyard8467]

Internal routing without inner sleeves

[@Laurie-Kirk]

Merry Xmas 🎄

[@ltrtg13]

I answer to Owen's Question. "Which was you favorite hardtail? Steel vs carbon edition." As I never owned a full carbon hardtail. I'll go with aluminium. Headset cable routing must go. The number of bikes. I seen that I've liked and would buy. Until I see the headset cable routing, then I loose interest in the bike. Merida seem the be big on the stupid design. The headset routing SHOULD only be on pro road bikes as used in TdF. Never on bikes sold to the public.

[@hellojrod]

I second the elimination of the headset cable routing. totally sucks

[@robbchastain3036]

We need an EMTB brand to step up and call their latest line The Moped, totally own it, everything from The Moped Commuter to The Moped Speedster. And total disclosure, my 26" alloy MTB commuter has a conversion kit and I know it's a moped, lol, a regular moped, not a mod moped for the jet set. 😀

[@GHinWI]

They’ll never do it. The whole point of these MTB mopeds is to poach existing trail systems. The people who ride them want to pretend they’re pedaling a bicycle.

[@robbchastain3036]

@GHinWI I cheer all of it but I get your point, e-bikes do fly under the radar in the guise of bicycles, not mopeds. And I can't speak about any MTB v. EMTB friction on dirt, but I do see the problem on city streets, e-bikes are more sport mini-moto than bicycle and their riders would freak out if they ever had to pedal one of those tanks. Not all, of course, but mostly, from what I've seen in a small town in the States.

[@jaysee2213]

Shocks and forks that want servicing if you wheel your bike across the garage. It's not happening, non of us do it so stop telling us we need to

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

Boycotting battery powered stuff on MTBs, perfect for emtbs but not needed or wanted on a MTB.

[@SilverShamrock71]

Rainbow coloured anodized bolts?

[@burnmedina]

Happy new year from the Philippines....🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@gmbntech]

Happy new year!!

[@mtbboy1993]

13:54 That might work, but it might also not, but lubing seems to work better, but I've not tried to do it on DOT brakes only mineral, but once none of this helps or it helps only temporarily and then pistons lock up it's time for new seals. 15:05 I will never get DOT fluid, not as safe for me nor the paint job, but Mineral oil not attracting water is a nice thing.

[@su1raM]

Agree with all stays in 2024 + headset cable routing needs to be stopped.

[@JeffMTBinVA]

I agree with Anna on the high pivot and Owen on the mixed groupsets.

[@IdrisFashan]

Having the same type of mech is a crazy issue. My Gasgas has GX rear mech and came with… an SX shifter. Bro…. Before my first big ride, I had to deal with that. 😅

[@lsugimoto8361]

High pivots with idlers. Lightweight mid powered eMTBs for me but I can see it's place for those that can only have one bike to do everything.

[@yoondaman316]

I agree with the comment below that headset cable routing needs to stay in 2024. Forever. As for SL eMTBs, I feel like they’re evolving, as opposed to going away. I’m seeing bigger batteries (Slash+) and/or more powerful motors (Orbea Rise, Cannondale Motera SL, and Amflow). I have a feeling this trend will continue.

[@yoondaman316]

Forgot to mention the Sklar Tall Tale. It’s simply beautiful! Bikes like this is the reason why Hardtails will not go away. My $.02 worth. Hope to see a test ride review soon.

[@emonty62]

Happy 2025!

[@nukedathlonman]

Happy New Year!!!

[@gmbntech]

Happy new year!

[@Hiefi97]

I am currently planing on building myself a wooden bike too. But i would not trust it to ride in heavy terrain. I build mine for riding long tours

[@Cookie-Dough-Dynamo]

Europeans paying HALF what Americans pay for tires, drivetrain, wheels...

[@TivonSanders]

I think I have a good one for #AskGMBNTech Haven't seen an episode of it in a long time and honestly do miss seeing them! Now to my question: I have a budget suspension fork on my bike, an SR Suntour XCR32 LO-R Air. The fork has been (just about) flawless and very solid it's 3 years of operation, but I've had to go without any rebound dampening for a couple years or so because of a peculiar issue the rebound cartridge has; the adjustment knob has stopped working and cannot change the dampening. I have tried a suggestion found online where one would have to remove the knob, small hex key in the knob, and fixing bolt the knob snaps into, and then use a 3mm hex key to thread another small bolt inside the cartridge closer to the opening, and then reassemble the knob and bolt. That doesn't work. Would you happen to know any other reasons?

[@YetAnotherShadowBannedAccount]

Owen the voice of reason 👍

[@mikeburgh3956]

Does Anna still have her Nukeproofs? If so, does she ride them? Happy New Year GMBN🎉

[@TheSarcasticEngineer]

Get shut of the hype. We don't need new designs yearly. The tweaks don't justify the industry behind it. There's been a boom, lots of dev, sweet. Now, let it taper back a bit, lower the prices.

[@robhaskins3068]

Unnecessary extra sprockets .Hopefully they have all been patented to stop others from making the same mistakes.

[@SDdirtdog]

leave the internal headset cable routing ! I mean really. Does anyone really want that on their bike ???

[@HenriG-i6g]

#AskGMBNTech does fork stanchion thickness matter??

[@GHinWI]

Thickness or diameter?

[@HenriG-i6g]

@@GHinWI Thickness, like how the Fox 40 has 40mm of thickness you know?

[@GHinWI]

@ 40mm is the diameter

[@Mugtree]

Oooh interesting I have a Deviate (on my second Highlander) and I love it and the high pivot and I'm a trail rider and love long rides and for me it is the perfect bike🥰

[@clarencekuna6760]

Happy New Year all E-Bikes - They should have their own trail that corresponds to their dificulty level of riding We need TheOne Bike tu rule them all (with the exception to DH and CC). the rest can be left behind

[@natanaeltzul1-248]

#ASKGMBNTECH I'm looking forward to upgrading my tires from cheap stock tires to some Maxxis Crossmark ones since i hear they are ideal for the surfaces i ride on. However, i see that there are two versions. What are the differences? Does one model last longer, is one tubeless ready? I cant find any useful info. Thanks in advance and happy new year.

[@luizcarloszimmermann5505]

Feliz ano novo ; muita bicicleta e saúde à todos dos USA

[@GHinWI]

@1:30…what’s he on about?? What are sold as e-bikes are EXACTLY mopeds-a pedal-assisted motorized two-wheeled bike.

[@Alex-uh1mj]

Cant think for himself

[@mitrovarr]

People don't want to use the word motor with e-bikes because we already had a nice system of rules in place to say where motorized cycles were allowed to go, and not go. Your dirt bike is not special because you left the pedals on.

[@tybronder172]

I want more high pivots in 2025. I want an xc bike with a high pivot tbh

[@slick-riq]

Get rid of: - high pivot, added complexity and cost with no benefit - dentist bikes (bikes >$6000) Continue: - SL e-bikes, I’d prefer even smaller batteries, and smaller motor… I mind working hard, but improving the return on effort to give me 20%-25% boost my unpowered speed.

[@parkinkevin]

High pivot done right by Pivot 👍

[@tim__sadler]

#askgmbntech - with all this talk about high pivot, twin chain, mixing groupsets, carbon versus steel and wooden bike tech... where is the quiz?

[@Davem19835]

Sorry, that brake piston thing, is there no one who understands engineeing any more, over 20yrs of ride and used to race DH and never had an issue with a sticky piston, non of th8s is hard and just needs a few mins about about 4 tools

[@okamisan3642]

E bikes are great in an emergency. Or maybe you just wanna backtrack for a buddy that got left behind. That’s what happened to us and I got the ride to downhill twice. Not a fad.

[@mikeyorath8361]

The EU speed limits, can't see why it can't be the same as the US ebikes

[@MariusSeemann]

high pivot is the best

[@jblecoz]

Putting 32T chainring on enduro bike.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

-Cables through the headstock has got to go. -High pivot chain routing has got to go. We are not all downhill slayers. -Stupidly loud ratchet hubs, what's that all about? Like being trapped in a small box with a dozen angry cicadas. -Press fit bottom brackets. Seriously, I know the point is less weight, but at what cost? Everything should be threaded! -The trend to electrify and digitize absolutely everything. Stop it. -Three trim levels is PLENTY with bike models. -Sticking your rear shock through the middle of the frame window, eliminating any place for a decent water bottle. Just stop.

[@fransenfiets]

Sklar bike is a babeeeee

[@chaotictattoo]

Scott's stem system.

[@57boomer44]

I'll get an e-bike when i get old. I'm 67.

[@anthonylloyd6094]

Leave tan wall tyres in 2024.

[@CJGrand1]

Making up bike categories.

[@Alex-uh1mj]

Wish we could leave thes two in 2024 and have them replaced with a couple of engineers

[@gbshreds]

Any of Anna's opinions...

[@erictrelz3519]

I agree with Anna about high pivot and complex suspension systems. High pivot should be used mainly on downhill bikes where the design has real advantages. However on trail bikes like the Norco Optic, they are unnecessary. They are too complex, noisey, require too much maintenance and negatively affect the climbing aspects of the trail bikes. No one really climbs with a downhill bike, so who cares if the downhill bike has a high pivot? As for suspension design, what the heck is going on? Santa Cruz's VPP is simply problems waiting to happen. Yeti's Switch Infinity has similar issues. The best suspension I have used, and I have used almost all designs, is Kona's Beamer Suspension which is a single pivot linkage driven system. It does everything well, is simple, easy to maintain and lightweight. Way to go Kona!

[@anotherider2]

I would like to see an end to idiotic comments from luddites who do not know the difference between a pedal assist e-bike and a motorcycle. Most haters would love e-bikes if they actually tried them and knew how they work, (cos if you don't do some work, nor do they). Stupid prejudice due to ignorance is cure-able and you can't uninvent the tech.

[@dyslo9216]

Probably not a popular opinion I’d say lose the gravel bikes. There’s too many trends these days in MTB’s.

[@jackiegammon2065]

Ebikes would be my choice to get rid of... can we get back to earning our down hill rides? Can we think about getting some exercise here as well, other than the effort to pick them up and load/unload them? I know many of you love them, but do you remember how proud you were when you made it to the top of the hill without getting off or clearing a technical spot that you haven't been able to? Either way... On another note, I will admit though that steel hardtails are something I may need to think about !

[@CJGrand1]

That stuff is not important to people anymore. It's sad, really. It's all about the "convenience: now.

[@TheRicardoSanchez]

It’s about bang for time/effort. Aging riders are battling diminishing physical resources, deteriorating joints and longer recovery/healing period. And there’s only so much time. And the pedal up is just the means to the desired end. F that journey. I want to get in more laps with focus on the fun, not the effort. Stay out of my pocket.

[@JamesGoddardftw]

You’ve missed the point of e bikes. We aint looking for downs we’re looking for climbs that mtb’s simply are not capable of. Sure theres the lazy brigade riding shuttle runs but a serious ebiker really isnt bothered about the downhill its just something we have to do so we can climb back up. If you’re gunna hate on e bikes for not earning their decents i hope you give the same to the boys using land rovers to get their “real bikes” to the top

[@jackiegammon2065]

It seems to me that most mtn bikes are geared quite low, 51/52 tooth on the lower end of your cassette... with options to change your chainring as well..

[@mitrovarr]

​@TheRicardoSanchez No offense but it sounds like what you really want is a dirt bike. No pedaling at all!

[@danielcobb8886]

Electronic shifting, suspension and dropper posts.

[@thegreatseprano9918]

You don't have to buy it if you don't want it, mechanical shifting has gotten as good as it can get. Electronic is the way forwards for performance orientated riders.

[@FIGHTTHECABLE]

I think you're on the wrong channel here mate. 😂 Maybe look for a youtube bike channel that does oltimer artisanal bikes. 😊

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Cable operated is still very available and possible on many frames.

[@45graham45]

Ebikes! Aaargh.

[@Defnitlynotdrugdealer]

2025!

[@silver_c1oud]

Electronic Sram Garbage

[@Cpt-Pugwash14]

ebikes

[@laeljon]

Cassettes and derailleurs....

[@NBM397]

Spot on: Rohloff, Pinion and other gearboxes/IGHs is the way forward. I would also like to leave all chains in 2024. I have two belt driven bikes, but my family all have chains (which I maintain). I do nothing to my belts, and replace the oil in the Rohloff once a year - if I remember it. But the chains and derailleurs of the rest of the family: Constant maintenance.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Two things: Weight - yes it's an issue, when it's making your 21 pound bicycle now 26 pounds. Cost - it prices bicycles straight out of affordability for a lot of people; now the frame or wheelset or other components will have to be cheapened to bring the total price back down, and we wouldn't settle for cheapened builds with derailleur bikes. I get that cost over time on a derailleur bicycle is likely nearly as high as the Pinion/Rohloff/Alfine over the span of a decade of use but the up front cost is still a barrier.

[@NBM397]

@@exothermal.sprocket A belt-driven rohlof is not 5 pounds heavier. You must be off your rocker. And since you talk about price; If you compare a Rohloff or a Pinion to cheap external drives, the weight difference is even less. And there are other, cheager gearbox/IGH brands out there: Shimano, Sturmey etc. Don't play it like IGHs are expensive. They are not. Rohloffs and Pinions are. But so are the top deraileur systems from Shimano and SRAM. In fact, since a Pinion or Rohloff is not a derailleur, it will be cheaper in the long run than the top of Shimano and SRAM. And way, way, way less maintenance.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@NBM397 "you must be off your rocker" Is that the usual first response you give to someone who doesn't agree with you?

[@NBM397]

@@exothermal.sprocket No, it's my first response to someone who makes obvious and provable false claims in his first response all to support a position that is based on such falsehoods. If you have a problem with calling out such idiotic falsehoods, maybe the internet is not for you.

[@bikebudha01]

e-bikes ARE FUCKING MOTORCYCLES... It's right there in the name, they have a MOTOR.

[@mitrovarr]

Shhh... if they have to admit they basically reinvented dirt bikes, they'll have to admit they probably should use the same trails, too!

[@rrs1379]

high pivot stays she goes

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Watch the viewership on this channel take a dive if she goes.

[@Louis.pocobello]

Yes keep the high pivot

[@ZoZooZoooZoxxxx]

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