What To Expect From The Big Brands In 2025 | EMBN Show 364

[@embn]

What are you most looking forward to with the e-bikes of the future?

[@stuartrathbone5403]

MGU's. A bike with all the traits of the Amflow (on which I would prbably tun the power down to 85nm) with an MGU would definitely open my wallet again. I have a '22 Orbea Rise which is perfect for me and I see the loss of the derailleur, unsprung weight and a protected low maintenance gear box as the next meaningfull step in development for E-MTB's. I would also like the speed restrictions lifted to 20 mph/32 kph on this side of the pond which IMOH would not jeopardise the safty of others in the hands of sensible folk (you cannot legislate for the others).

[@LlenadeMalo]

More lightweight bikes with full power motors. A 23 or 25 KG bike is ridiculous.

[@cliffsangelsphotography]

Full power TQ

[@jerryofthebikes]

No more HEADSET CABLE ROUTING!

[@macejowski]

I want to see everything refined longer range at least equal to current full power end up to say the avinox power range on more long travel bikes without smaller batteries. In the US used market it appears that there are no limit of SL bikes on the cheap. The kenevo is my bike of choice I have a 21 and I can't find anything new on the full power side so definitely looking forward to perhaps The forbidden with the avinox and not to 600 watt hour battery it's rumored to have but the 800. I want to be able to go out and ride full power all day without range anxiety my current go to full power ride is about 23 MI.

[@gw8855]

The full power eBike has been my go to bike since 2019. For me eBikes are more fun to ride, My riding has improved because I’m riding and cornering faster that has made me a better rider, I climb just about every hill I come across on the trails and I ride 2-3 times the distance. Example: On my traditional MTB I would average 10-12 miles of single track trails and would be pretty much exhausted at the end of my rides. On my eBike I now average 20-25 miles on the same single track trails and I’m not as exhausted after my rides. Greg

[@finroddd]

In regards of the Amflow - IMO it is not just the power that makes it so desirable. It is all that power for a bike that is under 20kg. I think most of us want exactly that - full power, big range and weight just between 20kg.

[@fundidoarrojo269]

Spot on

[@lozetchells9164]

Totally with you guys on the too much power thing. Seems like a great way to get ebikes banned from public spaces. And 600W is more than enough for stuff that's so steep I'm nearly looping out, so I just don't see the need

[@LlenadeMalo]

Exactly it. A 23-25 KG bike is insane.

[@macejowski]

I definitely want to see a long travel version

[@EMTB17]

Your post shows exactly what you actually know which is virtually nothing. If you were actually paying attention, what’s coming from the real world and people who own those bikes is nothing but negative things. But you go ahead and waste your money.

[@mickhayton2571]

I don't think we need any more power from 80-90nm. We need the speed limit lifting to 20mph from the ridiculous 15mph.

[@rognevs5695]

Is this going to happen

[@scottbagley7513]

100% agree on that one 👍🏻👍🏻

[@KeenEyeFPV]

Is it 15mph in the UK? My ebikes have been 20mph, just wondering

[@RealKong368]

I am less concerned with being allowed 20 mph and more concerned with being band from public trails in my area as many e-bikers behave so poorly hiking trails.

[@curtrichardson8002]

UK speed restrictions are ridiculous. Somebody's granny make this rule?

[@GDawg2K2]

FYI: Been riding a 160nm m620 Bafang for years! Every time I looked to “Upgrade” the Bike the event would end with a component upgrade to a X0 AXS or Programable controller or better Suspension! The DJI on the other hand looks legit! Let’s see if it gets into the US in 2025!

[@paulmaag6958]

I think the e-gravel space will grow, with innovations towards new light specialty drive systems, improved suspension forks, droppers, and tires! One example is the Mondraker Dusty.

[@richardandrews6299]

What we need is a standardised frame/motor mounting system & batteries. All these brands (or at least the big ones) should communicate and figure out a way to bring forward some basic standards, I believe that will create much more choice and streamline choosing a new bike. Won't happen overnight I know, but it needs to happen within a realistic time frame otherwise we'll end up with frames that are "out of date" because a bike manufacturer changed the bolt pattern on the "new" 202X release and last years model is now obsolete - leading to more wasted/trashed frames.

[@kevb8828]

Personally I’d like to see things slow down a bit… as I feel emtb is almost the PCs of the 00s where you would buy one and they would be out of date as soon as you put it in the car! But I would also like to see the industry perfect and address the long term issues such as water ingress!!! For me emtbs costing this much should be lasting 5+ years! And I think it’s shocking how we still don’t technically have a waterproof or wash proof motor!

[@sd5458]

My Aventon Ramblas would beg to differ. The entire bike is IP67 ingress rated and UL certified. I realize it's one of the exceptions - and therefore I agree with your assessment. But they do exist.

[@JamesGoddardftw]

They are wash proof, they dint like power washers but nor do ordinary bikes. If you read the user manual that comes with your car that will also say avoid power washing Power washers are for patios not electrical/mechanical components

[@sd5458]

@@JamesGoddardftw Simply not true. I use a battery powered sprayer and avoid the cranks, bearings and brakes. My bike is also 100% waterproof. If you go and use a carwash stall on your bike at 2,000 psi then yeah you're an idiot. Try being a little more humble.

[@JamesGoddardftw]

@@sd5458 dont be soft lad if it was 100% safe you wouldnt be avoiding all the bits with bearings and seals

[@sycpup]

Everything is expensive when the tech first comes out, but E-MTB's have been around for a while, so I think the price needs to start coming down, and not just because the manufacturers are experiencing hard times right now! Actually the price on all bikes needs to come down. $10,000 for a MTB is ridiculous!

[@Rich.enDorseit]

With regard to technical uphills. before ebikes, I was into riding for the fun of the downhill and the tech sections. if I found myself riding up a hill no faster than I could walk, I'd rather get off and push, trying to get over a wet root on a steep climb on a traditional bike at 4mph just isn't worth attempting! but now with the ebike, there's something more challenging with maintaining flow and attacking a really tech uphill section. if you'd said to be 10 years ago, I'd be riding uphill and using a root to get air to enable me to clear a tricky section, I wouldn't have believed you! The video Blake did at BPW on the ebike climb was a great example uphill flow/fun

[@alcapone4242]

I planned and already ordered the new Wild 2025 M10 with BDU38... designed in MyO. I am really excited to have my first ride on it 🎉 happy new year 2 all ❤️

[@TechnoCartel]

They know about new Specialized and really looking forward what they will give us...

[@cliffsangelsphotography]

I bought a Trek Fuel EXe 8 alloy, and i love it.

[@alexerioeduardo2844]

I almost bought a emtb this year as a winter training tool to support my enduro racing. There are loads of deals out there especially on older machines. But I didn't as I feel there's a step change coming from the big brands in 2025. I expect either a gen 4 levo or a new kenevo from specialized. Both will probably lead the industry for the next 5 years.

[@andymoss4285]

Hopefully the uk law changes and you can do more the 15.5mph with assistance legally. All the bikes can do it already , they just restrict it.

[@coastalhillbilly3419]

How would they know if you are on an unrestricted bike?

[@gordoncahill1170]

1. Wireless remotes. Hello Shimano! 2. All bikes should have optional range extenders or optional battery sizes. 3. Ride recording internally or MUCH better integration with Garmin etc. 4. Better options for fine tuning the power modes. 5. Ability to easily switch between power profiles for short to long days out. 6. Less motor noise and rattles. 7. More emphasis on high quality entry level bikes to lower entry costs.

[@thebodaciousbing3950]

Full powered all the way! More tech climbing in adventurous places with beautiful views and sweet downhill tracks please.

[@craigcraigster5605]

In 2024 I sold my three year old turbo levo and purchased two brand new bikes- Yamaha ydx-moro and a gasgas Enduro. I still can't believe the deals out there for bikes that used to sell for over 5 k (Canadian dollars). I got two brand new bikes for less than 5k. Bike manufacturers if they want to stay in business in 2025 have to think again about how much people are willing to spend. Value and efficiency should be there target 🎯.

[@ceriway380]

We never learn do we , I'm 67 and back in the 80s I road motorbike trails part of the TRF and in the end we were banned from riding because people were riding enduro motorbike. And sadly I can see it happening again with ebike .

[@RealKong368]

Exactly ... I am less concerned with being allowed 20 mph and more concerned with being band from public trails.

[@JesseA5299]

I got a Marin e-bike at the end of October and have been absolutely loving it... it's the first MTB I've owned in a decade or more, and I can't imagine going back

[@MikeReade-q9f]

I'm a haibike flyon owner and massive fan of the brand but I'd really like to see a video on the flyon vs the amflow. It's such a shame that the flyon is discontinued but mines mint and I've rode a few emtbs and there's nothing that makes me laugh like my flyon. I'm subscribed to the channel and love the videos and happy new year to you all thanks 😊

[@grabulho]

Just got a MORO 07, my first e-mtb and I'm loving it.

[@Dark_Vader888]

As a 40 yr old rider that was injured at work, I need the extra power and this is what kept me riding after it was looking like I'd never be able to ride a non emtb again. Because of injury the extra torque of my Bafang EMTB has made a huge difference and it basically saved my life.

[@kev9386]

Got my first EMTB this year, absolutely love my Mondraker Crafty RR, its a beast, no real need for any more power in my opinion and really helps improve my fitness when i want to ride my non E hardtail. The only thing I would like to see change is maybe considering something like a GPS triggered speed limit increase when you are on trails. Even a 20mph limit would really help.

[@RealKong368]

I am less concerned with being allowed 20 mph and more concerned with being band from public trails in my area as many e-bikers behave so poorly hiking trails.

[@marianpopa4013]

i want to see more big brand working with pinion unit

[@southyorkshiremountainbiki3003]

Same here heard hibike are doing a bike with the pinion this year 🤞

[@embn]

Watch this space we think!

[@hogg8984]

Would be good to see manufacturers offer some kind of upgrade options, whether that is a trade in, or even purchase hire of some sort.

[@embn]

Good idea!

[@Palfreeezy]

I just picked up the Ohlins Kenevo SL here on Vancouver Island and it’s definitely a whole lot more being able to ride derestricted compared to back home in the UK. 32kmh makes sense and I love the bike! Just need Hope to make some 155mm cranks 😉

[@robhaskins3068]

With the Dji Avinox motor it's more about the unbelievable control I have over the power. It really must has some smart technology to apply the power in Auto mode. It to me feels like it's taking into account the slope, gear,wheel sensor (42 position ) and the crank stroke position(like a Oval chain ring effect??) + more tricks to give a really smooth feel that I don't think the others have. It doesn't need that much mumbo-jumbo but it gives it incredible acceleration to give you heaps of momentum when needed. Simply my first impressions.I haven't found the need for the 30sec Boost YET. It's a very good jump foward in motor, battery , display ,adjustability, charging and above all control technology. E=mtb² By the way I'm 62kg so I made a 4kg lead water bottle to experiment with a heavier Emtb which I prefer .

[@anthonynazzal1958]

The white canyon in the bike vault was at the meadows trail in Aliso Woods California Great trails out there!

[@marianpopa4013]

happy new years you all

[@embn]

Happy New Year!

[@bivouacphotography4768]

Efficiency and reliability over power any day.

[@timscarman4599]

Hey hey hey….. it’s FAAAT Albert. I’ve n old-ish Merida eOne-Sixty 700 Shimano EP08 and I rare use turbo on my tech uphill riding around Mt. Osmond (Women’s Pioneer Trail, Bullock Track, Eagle Park) in the Adelaide Hills and when I wear out my machine I’ll be considering the DJI and / or Merida eOne-Sixty 875 which hopefully will be discounted in 12-18 months. 90% of my riding is stock standard trail mode for this worn out dodge knee’d 55yr old man. I just love riding and like a bit of a workout so there you go. 90nm is more than adequate.

[@apfolklore]

How about "expecting" EMBN to talk about the canyon fiasco?

[@robrider838]

It’s already a blast going up Fromme mountain highway to 7th secret with the altitude Powerplay 108nm. Would be even better with 160nm.

[@Magoo71]

The integrated MGU is the future….separate motor and Gears are outdated already …the sooner they all change to that format the better all the riders will have it! The gear box never gets dirty as it’s closed and sealed with clean oil bathing the gears… No more noisy chains that need maintenance and servicing…

[@philhicks5818]

Hope Steve is right about specialized , I’m hanging on for a next gen levo , started to look at other options but can’t seem to find anything that makes me say wow , my only worry is like other brands they will go down to 600 watt batteries with the option for a piggy back battery, because of the weight thing , personally I love a big heavy ebike

[@jeanmarc_in_Hudson]

Happy New Year everyone! More security tech for 2025, be it via the app or shutting down the bike with a PIN number, anything that can prevent simply riding the bike away… And of course lightweight batteries. 👍

[@andrewjohnson9896]

Another wonderful video guys.

[@richardhuntington1393]

Steve, the guy at the bike park that Said to you, people don't care about riding technical uphill was, as far as the group I ride with, hit the nail on the head. We just want to go downhill as fast as possible and make the climbing as easy as possible. 😂

[@artificialgrassspain30]

I defo want to buy an emtb this year, I love seeing factory tours on videos.

[@embn]

Awesome! What do you think you'll go for? And which of our factory tours have been your favourite?

[@neilelliston]

Speed limit upped to 20mph. All our local roads are 20mph, towns and village's are 20

[@RealKong368]

I am less concerned with being allowed 20 mph and more concerned with being band from public trails in my area.

[@neilelliston]

@RealKong368 gravel bikes flypast ebike on the flats. Should they be restricted aswell? 😆

[@tomcagle5324]

Don't forget the Bafang M600-120Nm...but I don't race, so 85-90 Nm is good, even tech climbing...maybe really big, long ascent mountains occasionally more Nms would be desirable as a heavy rider.👊 The AMFlow shines for its lighter weight, full power smoothness, and electronics for all that test it, I would definitely take one here in the US, even at our 750W max for Class 1. 😘

[@99jerseyboy]

Happy New Year, guys! Thanks for another great year of eMTB content. You've both educated and entertained me greatly this year! 😎 1) For 2025, it would be great if you guys showed more riding of your trails in actual speed versus so much cutting and pasting of your riding slowed down over bike reviews or how-to's. These bikes are made for riding, and seeing that is what made me want to buy an ebike and hit the trails! 2) I'm planning on getting a new eMTB in 2025. I like your sponsor's Canyon Strive On, but in the U.S. they only sell the lower level Underdog. It's a good bike, but I'm hoping they'll at least release the middle tier if not all 3 levels. I also like the new YT Decoy SN for the weight, but being a heavier rider, I'm concerned the Fazua Ride 60 isn't powerful enough. Put a 105nm DJI motor in that bike and I'd buy it immediately! 3) What I'd love to see this year is for silly laws against Class 1 ebikes to just disappear. There are so many trail systems around me in the Southwestern United States desert that ban ebikes for ridiculous reasons. Opening trails everywhere would be great for the sport, bike shops, local economies, people's health, and family time. I know my wife would join me on the trails more if we didn't have to travel over an hour to ride ebikes legally when there's a trail system 10 minutes away. We can't even take ebikes to the Sedona Bike Festival because the trails won't allow it. As an older rider with health challenges, ebikes keep me riding, but be blocked from awesome trails and events like that seems so unfair and unnecessary. 😓 Anyways, can't wait to see what you guys have in store for 2025! Cheers! 👍🎉

[@robstoeckel353]

I would like the channel to change it direction to have some real commentary rather than the infotainment regurgitating press releases. Emtbs have improved a lot but are like beer, none is bad but not every beer suits every occasion. So delving deeper into the individual characteristics and nuances (good and BAD) of each bike.

[@Burbs1976]

Australia here. I purchased a trek rail 4 years ago, I sold it then bought a normal bike. Great bike and great fun. Issues I had: 24kg-too heavy. Australia top speed is 25kmph- should be 30-35. To enjoy the e bike you need to be all riding e bikes. My dream e bike would be full power 18kg, 85nm would be fine. Maybe very small battery and it charges as you pedal

[@James-zt4uz]

1. Channel - BC Canada content if possible.... Mackenzie BC! 2. New bike - Bought a half priced 2024 Gasgas for the coming season! 3. What to see in emtb tech - SOLID STATE BATTERY TECHNOLOGY!!!!!

[@stevenreyes3680]

I’ve got a stock Bafang BBSHD on a NOS 2013 GT Zaskar 26” medium frame. Running a 24” X 2.8” rear tire. No problem putting the power down. And well, you have to turn the power down on steep uphill starts. The throttle is shit, almost an on / off switch….so you just do t use it… My hypothesis on the big brands using low voltage, 250 watt motors; it’s all the drive train will stand over the long haul. And why I use the most massive single speed chain from KMC and a Sturmey Archer 3 speed. Actually with 160nm torque you can run it as a single speed. And I got a Luna Cycle chainring with replaceable teeth. Half the cost of one piece chainring… PS I’m 73 and my diy e-bike makes pedaling optional. And it’s very nice on the road. It will do 30mph in traffic, the speed limit here in Portland where all surface streets are now 30MPH. The people driving must hate it. I can blend with traffic to make left turns. God forbid I hit a banana !

[@roneysilveira2153]

Hi, love watching your channel 😊 My point of view: do we need lots of power/torque on the motors ? I think that is directly related to the type of ebike regular use, day by day…….. For example I recently bought a Turbo LEVO SL COMP and use to ride XCountry…..no downhill, specially considering my age by 70 years old, then I made some changes on my LEVO on a result of total weight of 15,2 kgs !!! This is perfect to allow better condition to the MAHLE motor with only 50 Nm….very happy with results 😊 2

[@paulfennemore1663]

I would love more than 85nm that I have at the moment. 150nm would be amazing as a boost mode to get through muddy trails and steep long climbs. I reckon any traction issues can be tackled with wheel rims, tyres and suspension as is the case with motor bikes. The extra power will easily offset the extra weight.

[@conorprendergast9909]

Been saving up for a bike and caught between wanting a trail bike or a new emtb!! Want to see brands trying to make a solid competition value bike the way vitus went with the emythique.. possibly the way tech keeps improving the older stuff become cheaper but still be great to use

[@embn]

Let us know what you end up going for!

[@kharris0465]

My e-mountain bike is such a monster bike that I'm just going to keep it and let my mechanic keep working on it.

[@alexlogan9279]

I just picked up a COMMENCAL META POWER TR SHIMANO RACE and so far I'm having a blast with it.

[@Ndc710]

I would like EMBN to dedicate some shows to riding big trails maybe in areas you highlight in Where In The World.

[@klassyken]

Crestline bikes S180 ordered for this year, can't wait for its arrival!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@bikemad]

Big brands need to up their game not only with motor power but also fast charging the dji charger speed and weight is also a game changer

[@embn]

We've come a long way in a short time with weight! We think it'll keep going that way for a while

[@sd5458]

Harder on batteries however the faster the charge. Smartphones figured this out years ago. Say goodbye to $50 bike chargers if that's the case and say hello to $250 propietary brand specific quick chargers. (Not much different than how it is, but there is a consortium initiative already in the works for a starndardized charging system that a number of the big brands have already backed.)

[@simonfaux5781]

Steve I bought a ebike for technical uphill riding love it.

[@AHappyZeebra]

Regarding integrated lights. Many US states and some countries are offering rebates starting this year for “commuter” bikes. And one of the requirements is integrated lights. Scott by adding lights just made their bikes eligible for some hefty rebates.

[@legyvanmaster]

The truth is, we don´t need more power. 80-90Nm is enough by far. If this will increase in next years, like DJI did, it will not be really pedaling any more. With full powered Bosch or Brose o a very steep technical climb, I don´t need more power - I often need better SKILLS. Greetings from Slovenia!

[@MaartenSFS]

I just want to be able to travel in trail mode for 24 hours on a single charge with a few thousand metres of elevation gain and the bike should weigh less than 22kg. Is that too much to ask for?

[@ashnose]

24 hours is a bit mental

[@fundidoarrojo269]

And a warp drive...

[@MaartenSFS]

@ That’s enough for about two days, 300km, with 4000 metres of elevation gain.

[@MaartenSFS]

@ I use my bike to explore vast areas of mostly wilderness, so it’s a necessity for me.

[@Pargasboy]

Would be great if you could feature CUBE bikes on the channel,please! I have a stereo ONE44 HPC Action Team on order. Also do you have any news on a new Bosch display. Many new 2025 e-bikes comms with a big plack on the frame where the Bosch buttons go.

[@hovishill2779]

Integrated motor gearbox is the future for emtb. Centralised mass in the lowest point. Concerning electric bike re-sale values and selling, surely there’s an opening for a company setting up, 100 point health check, valet/refurb and 6-12 months warranty on motor/battery/frame, maybe supported by the manufacturers ?

[@bivouacphotography4768]

No-one cares about technical uphills? Madness, the best part of E-Bike!

[@davefreeman9347]

Absolutely 💯

[@lifeguard547]

Competition how many times did steve take his glasses on and off in one show! ;)

[@embn]

😂😅

[@mickeyheaton]

1:46 that Spiderman reference went right over your head 🕸️😂

[@thierryjacques222]

Happy New year ! I haven't switched to electric yet but I've been interested in it for a year and I'm following you with interest...and I might buy one this year. I still don't know if I'll go for a Full Power or an SL, I do enduro and I weigh 90kgs and I'm quite athletic. From my point of view, we don't need more power but more progress in the weight of the batteries, in the charging speed and maybe screens like what DJI offers...we lack bikes like the Mondraker Dune or the YT decoy SN.

[@joshmayoj2193]

What I want to see, you two coming to Australia Am I planning on buying a new bike, I’d like to, but I’ve got to get it past the minister for finance. What I’d like to see with EMTBS this year, good product at reasonable price. Love the show guys. Thanks Josh

[@aaone]

Personally I’d prefer to have more fuel to having more power than 85nm.

[@kickin123]

I want the 2018 Specialized Levo (or something similar)! 20kg, 85nm, 700-800wh battery.... Bring it back!!! (edit: or maybe if AMFlow could just release in North America!@)

[@stevemendelson4711]

You don't need more then 85 -90 NM. Otherwise ,You should ride a motorcycle. And I think the most important thing is the transmission. To make it more durable with E bikes!! Whether that's a gearbox or a stronger detailer and cassette, But that seems to be the most important thing to me.

[@alpinekiwi]

Can I just mention quickly how gorgeous 5:44 is? 🤘🏽

[@artificialgrassspain30]

I think biggest innovations will be more in battery size to weight ratio. Lighter batteries with way more juice and quicker charging. Don't think more power is strictly required.

[@embn]

Nice idea! Fingers crossed

[@martinsalharriso2cou]

bikes are a minuscule market compared to cars and current best density in both is about 200 Wh Kg. Bikes won't be leading anything on this, and car makers are investing billions to make tiny increases. There won't be any game changing increases anytime soon unfortunately.

[@Hadroncollider_]

@@martinsalharriso2cou um... car makers spent that money on changes in the production process. the tech is aviable to everyone, even end consumers and its not expensive. Bikes wont lead anything, yes... thats up to the battery cell manufacturers. The question we need to ask is more... why did it take bike manufacturers 4 years to get the idea to put 21700 cells into their batterys instead of 18650 cells? Is the bike market simply a plattform to get ridd of outdated tech at a premium price? or are their engineers completly incompetent?

[@lsugimoto8361]

!: More riding videos maybe some backcountry stuff. I do love tech climbing footage. 2: Absolutely not buying and eMTB this year. Love my 22 Trek Rail. 3: I like to see new things and innovations but let's face it, it's all marketing to try to get us to buy a new bike that's not needed. This is the same thing going on in the analog side of MTBs

[@scottpratico1315]

Im part of a Facebook DJI Amflow group and there seem to be a number of battery and motor bearing problems popping up. Im sure these will be ironed out over time but it does hint that over clocking these motors and systems may have downsides. Shimano and Bosch have a lot of experience and its possible they can simply turn up the power but choose not to in pursuit of reliability?

[@stuka78]

Yes

[@0643052]

I'd like to buy a new bike this year! would renew my Levo gen 3, Im in a lucky position where I can afford their lower end spec so one of the reasons I'd sell is that it appeals to someone that doesn't have the budget for a new one and helps growing the community, having more emtb overtime will be a good thing for prices in the long run I'm not lucky enough that I can get a new one while srill owning my 'old' one though 🤑

[@naterob2222]

Fearures - I'd like to see some improvements in software and displays. Would be nice to have more integration with apps such as trailforks. Also, maybe add charge ports such as usb-c to charge your phone on the ride

[@roadlesstraveledtruckee]

I’d like to see some focus on battery safety. It’s hard for consumers to even know what battery is in the bike let alone what certification it might carry. I think we need this to always be part of the discussion.

[@artificialgrassspain30]

Ps Happy New Year EMBN

[@embn]

Happy new year!

[@ganashev]

We need adventure videos, and a dedicated playlist so we don't miss any 🚵‍♂️

[@BrianJ-t1u]

I already have a 3rd gen S works and my local spec shop said the new one is well worth the wait and the reset of the manufactures will be shocked on what they have brought out as his been involved in its development like Steve has so a upgrade may be coming if its that good as per the speed restriction i have de restricted in the past as i used to do alot of riding on the road and found that the 15mph cut off was a too early cut off as a manual the on same roads i would do around 22mph personally i think we should have the same cut off as europe at 21mph as doing 21mph also keeps the flow of traffic at a better speed behind you

[@ogriboy]

Power will keep increasing as one manufacturer competes against another it will eventually evolve out the end as not a bike and possibly called a 'Motor bike' oh hang n a minute I think we have just reinvented the wheel ! Yes buying new E bike this year.

[@ambonirider]

Please, one plug for ALL!!! 😁 At least 2 USB C 160W each would be enough

[@embn]

The dream!

[@johntraeger4770]

I'd like to see more adventure stories, especially the ones where Steve suffers! 😁 I ride a 2020 Levo SL which has 4K on it, so yeah thinking about a new bike in 2025 but it will depend on what happens in the mo power SL space and prices. A 19KG enduro with 80Nm would be my happy place. As for EMTB industry, I too worry about bikes with enough Nm to roost; it will get us thrown off the trails for sure. Class I bikes need a clarification of not just the 750W limit, but also 110Nm limit as well. Just because someone would buy more doesn't make it a good decision for the industry. And one last thing I'd like to see: standardization so motor swapping is possible, at a minimum within a motor brand though cross industry would be ideal. It would address the upgrade cost question as well as the used bike problem.

[@BCPepperAdventures]

I think the balance of power and form factor is gonna be the key. At what point do we just go full moto power? One has to realize there has to be a limit with regard to the power we can bring to multi use trails. For me a 35 to 45 pound form factor, 85 to 100 newton meters of power, 150mm to 180mm of travel, have enough juice to ride 3 to 4 hours without having to apollo 13 the power management, and be end user serviceable with regard to the ebike motor and battery. Also would like to see an upgradeable motor and battery platform to accommodate newer motor battery tech.

[@StuartPlumbley]

What I'd like to see are upgrades for existing bikes, it would be great to see improved batteries for the likes of a levo sl

[@danielpatino81]

I think the future of EMTB is SL all the way, I companies come up with a light weight 600Wh batteries, light weight Ebikes will be the way to go!!!!

[@samperi01]

no I don't need more power. Thanks for making a question I wanted to answer.

[@OldBeanMTB]

Trek Rail 7 four years in, 1800 miles (I have other bikes) many upgrades. Absolutely love it. Imo no need for extra power at all. Ride in emtb mode most of the time. I ride bike parks and FOD regularly and session ability is insane. The speed limit should definitely be changed, as many have mentioned I can ride my roady at 30 mph 🤷 my Trek is derestricted but its never on the road. I wouldn't buy an eeb I couldn't derestrict. I feel companies should concentrate on making the motors, reliable, servicable and waterproof above power.

[@0530AZTECA]

Turbo Levo all day, every day! 🤙🏼

[@mikerbwind]

the elephant in the room is motor reliability .....mostly concerning water ingress. If any brand thinks they have cracked that they should be providing much longer warranty.....none are doing that!!

[@martinschwartz7342]

What ever happened to the TQ 120nm motor that was on the Haibike? I would like to see TQ come out with a revamped 120 nm motor.

[@fatyowls]

We want much better water protection for the UK!

[@brianlamb66]

Need more power? What does need have to do with it? Hahaha. We want want more power. But I agree with you. I run 120 newton meters on a 1000 w buffang hub motor peak 16. I have 37 amp hours. I'm 63 and I love having that extra boost up those steep techies. Regular bikers and hikers alike are starting to question whether we are little motorcycles.

[@emkay2903]

A solid state, smaller, lighter battery. Oh and fast charging.

[@davidgrothen3943]

Can’t see myself buying in 2025; updated my 2021 full power to a 2024 mid power (Fazua) lightweight. Hoping by 2026/2027 things are widely available in the low 40s w/full power until then I’m totally content on the SL bikes as is.

[@beesleyfamilyadventures]

I would love to see more "epic" rides but with mid power ebikes.

[@drahoslavhorvath]

My answers to your 3 question: A1 - More tests/reviews of bikes, especially low specs models, not only highend top specs A2 - No, I wont buy new bike in near future, I bought Trek Rail in the beginning of 2024... I will spend my money to some modifications... stem, handlebars... etc... A3 - It will be great if ebike can "save" bike industry from total bancrupcy

[@gazwagon4843]

How about a visit to Exmoor in 25, save on the air fare just across the Bristol channel for Jonesy. 😉

[@markarthur4837]

Hi guys, I’m looking to explore trails all over UK in a motorhome. EMB is what I’m looking at but weight is a huge challenge for payload so what do you recommend for quality vs weight vs cost. 👍

[@TAZMON20]

The Thok Askoll pushes very similar numbers to the Amflow, as do many other motors, Amflow is simply the mule for the DJI motor and battery, other manufacturers as we know are looking at the tech so who knows, for me the jury has yet to decide exactly what future the Amflow / DJI derivative has as a one trick pony can't please everyone.

[@nikleiser5888]

I have a question to Paul ERGs question. Is there almost no market for used bikes (pretty around the world) ? Whats the resale value of E-Bike (percentagewise) after lets say 5years or even 10years ? Unrelated question! Hre is a scenario; I have an E-bike and some parts break can I still get spareparts and service for these spareparts in 5/10/15 or even more years ? Btw: I still love my normal Radon QLT Race, after 16years.