Tech Tuesday - Hawker Fueling System

[@Lee-in-oz]

Screw em Shaun. It's your channel, you upload when you get the chance. #bellends

[@johnfreels9896]

you a WORKING MAN, we Love YA and appreciate every video you do, at your own time... not ours

[@jimmykosko]

Don’t worry about posting videos..... we know that you fly for a living. Plus family time. Still a big fan and always enjoy your videos.

[@theflyingplumber]

The fact that you can get as many videos out, is amazing. Like they say, Fly The Plane, deal with the rest once you have everything under control.

[@chuckeberth4370]

Great tech video Shaun. I like seeing the differences between the Hawker and the G IV. Don't stress over getting videos out as you're a busy pilot and you're still new with this company. Take of your job first.

[@tonyt5498]

Thank you for the video. Life and work are more important than videos so do not get stressed over the lack thereof.

[@teddyballgame4823]

Being a tech nerd. I love the boring details. Short and sweet. Thanks again for taking the time for the upload. Blue Skies.

[@HighTide1715]

Thanks for the teck tuesday vid. No worries. Send us something when you can. Glad things are going well. "Busy" is good. The "Front Office" comes 1st.

[@SmittySmithsonite]

I know how much time it takes to film and edit videos. I don't think I could handle it if I had a "real" job, and didn't work for myself. Editing takes FOREVER! Just getting one out per week is tough. I appreciate all your videos, & the effort you put into them, Shaun. Thank you! Great info in this one. 👍🍻

[@CorporatePilotLife]

what's a "real job"? LOL

[@SmittySmithsonite]

@@CorporatePilotLife - I'm still trying to figure that out. 😁

[@snyderjet]

The fuel panel is there for the 700 and 800 series. The fuel panel on the Hawker 1000 is on the left bulkhead as you are on the steps.

[@philanderson1200]

Shaun with all the flying you are doing and I know your kids are still little ones, don’t sweat the KZbin content. We are always here and appreciate the videos you upload and the time it takes to film,edit and upload. Thank you!!

[@bluemonster7754]

No worries! When you post, we watch! Thank you for the content!

[@Pintuuuxo]

You know, Shaun, this is one of your best videos.

[@CorporatePilotLife]

Thank you!

[@experimentalvid]

I’d like to thank you for these videos. As an instructor new to teaching Hawker, these videos are great to provide context to what the AFM has to say. Thanks for the visuals for pilots who have yet to step foot in the plane! I appreciate what you’re doing, please keep going!

[@Nbolanos0624]

Worked on Hawkers for 5 years and never again will i touch one. Gulfstream IV glorified Hawker maintenance wise not easy airplane to work on. Thanks for sharing video it brought me back to my old days of turning wrenches on those macabre british contraptions lol

[@ENergyJimP]

Yes, Shaun, flying and your family come before videos. No need to apologize.

[@drewleevy5420]

you're making my life as a newly hired line guy much easier. Thank you CPL

[@atlanticiacomjr9951]

Glad to see you back, but I'm more than happy to wait for your awesome content!! Keep it up!

[@Falcon2.39-1]

I fueled a hawker800xp for the first time the other day. The APU was on and even with earplugs in it was the loudest thing I’ve ever heard. I also never fuel a plane without the pilot present just because we don’t want anything to go wrong as well!

[@jacobroy9107]

Nice video Shaun. Makes me realize how much I hated servicing the Hawker when I was a line tech lol. Fueling is a pain (and super slow!), getting the gear pins installed takes some work (at least the nose one did), and don't even get me started on that god awful donut for the lav service. There's a good reason Citations outsold the venerable Hawker!😂😂

[@keemez]

+1 on all of that

[@waukeshapilot6462]

Having a pilot present really makes a lot of sense, if you think about it. Nobody puts fuel in my Cadillac, but Me!

[@zj622]

Great! Pray to see more hawker tech videos!!!!

[@n752av]

All of your videos are awesome, I'm starting a new job in the GIV as SIC and would really appreciate systems videos.

[@WolfPilot]

I *LOVE* these Tech Tuesdays! Count me as a new subscriber! I just got my PPL and maybe one day I will get a chance to sit right seat on a jet..After a little sim time of course!

[@niceguy2171]

A good tech video, and had wondered how you were..thought you were taking the summer off or something ;) but understand busy..and it sounds like you really have been. Hopefully you've been filming, and when you get a chance can edit it into vids for on here.

[@rikspector]

hanks Shaun, Nice to see your still breathing:) Cheers, Rik Spector

[@chriholt]

Good stuff as always Shaun! Don’t stress about the quantity of your videos, we know you’re a busy guy!

[@CorporatePilotLife]

Thank you!

[@bigd-1-channel514]

Another great video, good to hear you are busy, thats a good thing.

[@burt24pop]

Very cool to see the inner workings.

[@ecw0647]

No need to apologize. Good content.

[@billnicholson2470]

Very Interesting Shaun. Thanks for that. Have fun and fly safe!

[@federicomarchan1923]

Great video. Very simple explanation. Very helpful. Thank you!!!!!

[@frankmcgee7158]

Nice video, Shaun. No worries about being busy. I’m going to G650 Pilot Initial in August so I’m busy studying the systems, flows, and procedures now. Look me up if you’re ever in SAV. Cheers.

[@CorporatePilotLife]

I'm so jealous! Have fun and let me know how it goes...

[@davesawyer497]

Thanks Shaun. My recently acquired CPL baseball cap will be off to the Isle of Wight on the south coast of the UK at the weekend. They do have an airstrip but I'm not sure there's enough feet of runway for your machines. However the CPL brand will be visiting none the less.

[@CorporatePilotLife]

Awesome! I would love to see a picture of that!

[@davesawyer497]

@@CorporatePilotLife Challenge accepted. I am sure to drive by Bembridge Aerodrome. That has 2700 ft of concrete runway. The actual Isle of Wight airport has a grass runway. I doubt a G4 would appreciate that.

[@davesawyer497]

@@CorporatePilotLife Hi Shaun, picture sent to your gmail address. I hope you got it. Another for the collection no doubt.

[@CaptRD]

It's funny, I was just thinking about the channel today. It was nice to see a new video and an update on what has been going on with you.

[@edpippin]

Miss your videos but glad you are busy. Hope the schedule is still allowing your desired family time.

[@vetterfellow]

Excellent how to video Shaun. Thanks fer the video. Seems like a good Idea to have a Pilot present during fueling to make sure all is well and no coverups with broken latches Etc. Wheels-up...

[@Ripper13F1V]

Hey Shaun thanks for the great content again. In the 90's, I worked an FBO on the weekends during college. I had my PPL then. It was common for pilots to not communicate clearly how much they needed exactly. On more than one occasion, I saved a flight because I stopped to ask the question about how many pounds they wanted, and if it were split. While I did defuel quite a few of the mistakes that the pilot would make, one stood out. It was an ASA Brasilia. And they were doing a training flight. Guy asked for 3700lbs per side. I set it and started pumping. But it didn't sound right for a local training flight to be so heavy. I walked to the cockpit and asked them again are you sure you want 3700lbs per side? Because that does not sound right at all for a local flight. Both pilots went flush and said no, stop fueling. They meant 3700lbs split between sides, not total per side. Their paperwork reflected the mistake as well. I used that example to train the next guy, that if it doesn't sound right, ask the question. Keeps from making unnecessary work. And yes, I've been baptized by jetA on the ramp when our single point blew it's seal. Not fun. Fire department, paperwork, and decon. =)

[@donc9751]

Hey Shaun good to see you thanks for the video know you been busy!

[@jimcurlott8768]

Too many alpologies on your part. You've got a life and a career. Great video and very informative. Keep up the great work. Enjoy your life and career. You Tube will manage somehow.

[@genepollard234]

Hey Shaun. Thanks again for your video's man and the time you spend making them.

[@rizzeau]

What are the two things on the right of the refuel panel? No 1/2 Engine J2

[@larryloesch3531]

Came here to ask the same thing...

[@Helibeaver]

Very cool insight. Videos like this are why I subscribed

[@FOBob-sr1fd]

Glad you’re busy flying!

[@msnpassjan2004]

Thanks Shaun ! I'll take a quick tech video any day.

[@BoB4jjjjs]

Work comes first, KZbin has to be second and that means waiting. But I will wait, I am patient, besides, plenty of other aviation videos to watch and I do have trouble keeping up with it all. So you take your time. By the way, you can put out less polished videos with less editing for the short ones like this. It works fine.

[@marktaylor8263]

Nice to see you back Shaun, hope some good videos coming out soon.

[@torgeirbrandsnes1916]

Great vlog as always! I like to learn new stuff every day! Thank you. Be safe and fly safe!

[@cq7415]

Very informative. Thanks for sharing.

[@bobac1083]

I fuel delta's aircraft as well as Skywest, Endeavor, and GoJet CRJ/ERJs at MSP. If we have a problem, we call our ops and they call maintenance specific to which airline the fueler is fueling. I just had a CRJ today that refused to open the right tank for me... Skywest maintenance fixed the problem. N833SK CRJ9. MSP airport

[@THELIFEOFPRICE]

nice video man

[@neillsmart213]

You have a life/job/responsibility. KZbin is secondary :)

[@stephenbritton9297]

What are the ports labeled for each engine next to the panel used for?

[@jwmudse4473]

Digital Engine Computer DEEC downloads, You hook up special pigtail harness to computer to check engine parameters.

[@michaelstallone1600]

Well done

[@Lee-NN7X]

Good stuff Sir..

[@do8472]

Thanks for your time, enjoyed †he video.

[@dds77123]

Hello Sean from sweden! Can you do a tech-tuesday video about how you record your videos? How you record the sound from the radio, and how you hook up the power for the cameras? Keep up the good work!!

[@CorporatePilotLife]

Absolutely! Thank you for the suggestion

[@GeraldLaumeyer]

Thanks for another informative video really enjoyed it

[@myckee]

Very cool Shaun. Thanks for sharing and understand the whole busy thing.

[@mobtek]

Thanks Shaun this is interesting and I just figured you were busy as hell ;)

[@richards1960]

I believe you can fuel the aircraft over wing if necessary, am I right thinking that?

[@rickythepilot]

Yes, the Hawker has fuel caps on each wing and one for the aux tank which is on the left side of the fuselage next to the single point fuel connection.

[@CorporatePilotLife]

yep!

[@macieksoft]

It even has a keylock to prevent people from stealing fuel from you'r private jet.

[@matt_waddy]

What's up with the No 1 and No 2 engine plug looking things to the right of the fuel panel?

[@CorporatePilotLife]

Tech video on that to come!

[@matt_waddy]

Excellent! #NerdPorn

[@KO4L_Lloyd]

This may be a silly question, but with the fuel being pumped up, does some leak when the hose is disconnected from the plane? Looks like a good way to have a spill...

[@CorporatePilotLife]

They actually have the connection system fine-tuned in a way that it doesn't drip anything at all. Perhaps next time I get fueled, I will record the process for you...

[@892guns]

Im a fueler, the single point fueling adapter doesnt leak any fuel between the adapter and nozzle. Now with that being said, depending on the age of the aircraft it could happen. Had a MD-11 give me a shower of fuel but it wasnt much. just enough to leave me smelling like jet a1 for the rest of the night

[@Kelly-jc3jc]

You may get a few drops, whatever is collected between the aircraft and the nozzle poppet valve after fuel pressure has been discontinued. We usually keep a rag handy to catch it and properly dispose of the rag after.

[@ProPilotPete]

Good info as always!

[@chibinwosu5261]

Shaun, gotta say it but you look exhausted buddy😂.

[@CorporatePilotLife]

All part of the Corporate Pilot Life!

[@deans178]

Another 'back in the day' comment. I flew a PA28 Turbo Arrow IV (1979 'T' tail) into Goodland KS with 4 adult passengers. Asked the FBO to fill both tanks "to the bottom of the TABS" which I intended to mean basically 1/2 full each side. Left the plane & went to town. Next morning found out line person had thought it meant as much as you can cram into the tanks to overflowing! Now what do I do with a plane 300lbs over G/W at 3,600' elevation and 80° outside? Thankfully I was aware BEFORE I tried to takeoff!

[@chipblock2854]

I have fueled this type of aircraft nothing to it except for the position of the fuel connection. You have to squat down while trying to connect the fuel line. The fuel head is around 29 lbs so it can be awkward. Many other corporate jets are easier.

[@boatlover1875]

Seems kind of complicated. My only experience was working at a small ground station with Dash 8s. Since I'm curious, I went over and talked to the fuel guy one day. We'd call them and tell them what the needed fuel load was from the dispatch. The fuel went in under the number 2 engine and their was a gauge for each wing tank. If we wanted 2,500 pounds he would look for 1,250 in each wing. Really not sure if the pilots had to do anything, they could tell if they did not return a switch to the proper position. Really didn't look all that precise to me. Didn't seem to be any such feedback for the fueler on the Hawker.

[@scottrichardson6226]

the fueling system on your G1V wasn't hte same as what I was used to, we had a clean fuel panel, master switches and good gauges. what you showed is what I would expect after a crash?

[@rodgerhatfield3068]

Thank u sir!!

[@paulchmielewski5021]

Shun, You are a professional pilot first. Don't let people pressure you.

[@Naultarous]

I didn't see a grounding point in the fuel door. Is that not a thing on planes like these?

[@petejones4808]

It is but its probably on the undercarriage. Someone here will know for sure.

[@keemez]

It's in there- just kinda hard to see from that angle

[@natevanness]

There is a stud on the nose gear marked "bond point." Having said that, I've seen the grounding wire get attached to all kinds of places.

[@rickythepilot]

There's another stud right next to the fuel port. You can see it in this video at 03:35 . It's right next to the micro-switch. You can see that the metal rib where it's located has been stripped of paint from people grounding to the airplane, unlike the other rib which has it's white paint.

[@iisubzeroii5538]

Ding! Happy days!! Dont worry - RL is important! Guess you made it to Europe

[@CorporatePilotLife]

Twice!!

[@iisubzeroii5538]

@@CorporatePilotLife Good Grief! You need an airmiles card - ty for taking the time to edit / upload this tech vid - appreciated. Did you manage some footage to EUR - really like the transatlantic routing

[@CorporatePilotLife]

Thank you! I did record some of the Europe adventure, but unfortunately I wasn't able to record the flying part.

[@Regalas788]

Man our phenom and Lear pilots would be pissed if they had to be present with every refueling

[@carmengrace2413]

Regalas788 if my life depends on accurate numbers I’ll wait

[@dannywilliamson3340]

Does this class of plane have a maximum landing weight like an airliner, such that a fuel dump might me necessary on an unscheduled return to the airport?

[@CorporatePilotLife]

We do have a max landing weight, but it isn't required to have a fuel dump provision as it can be landed up to the max takeoff weight with a gear inspection afterwards

[@debbiekoenke5079]

what would be a normal fuel load for Hawker and the G IV

[@CorporatePilotLife]

Normal will vary from one flight to the next, but max fuel in the hawker is 10,000 pounds, and 29,500 for the G-IV. As an example, a 2 hour flight would be around 5,500 pounds in the Hawker and 10,000 pounds in the G-IV including reserves.

[@mikeloder8411]

Awsome!!

[@lkm5462]

What’s the height in the aircraft? Is it like getting in a limo and I would have to crawl on my knees (why do people think limo’s are good?).?

[@CorporatePilotLife]

The Hawker is about 5' 9" so shorter people can stand upright...not me though. The G-IV SP is 6" so it's a little easier for taller people

[@bobmeiroff7302]

Does it have the option to dump fuel while in the air like commercial planes ✈️

[@petejones4808]

No it doesn’t. Even though it’s not recommended to land with a full fuel load if they have to do it they can and the landing gear is either going to need some repairs or be ok depending on the landing.

[@Jet-Pack]

I've been a bad bad.... (wait this is KZbin right?) creator .... (ahh, pew)

[@CorporatePilotLife]

I was wondering if anyone would catch that...LOL

[@charles-vq6sd]

Is this system from honeywell?

[@CorporatePilotLife]

I'm not sure who makes the fuel management panel, but the avionics for this bird is from Collins.

[@charles-vq6sd]

@@CorporatePilotLife appreciate you shaun thanks for the feedback

[@hpflyboi]

Who cares if you're not able to get content out each week. Seriously these people need to get a damn life if they are calling you out for it. Life happens and sometimes we can't do the extra things in life that we want to do. Tell them to get over themselves or move the hell along. People like that piss me off when they bitch and moan that there was no new video or that it was late coming out. This is KZbin, not a paid subscription to a website. Get over yourselves!!!

[@CorporatePilotLife]

I feel like I may have misrepresented the situation a bit...the folks that called me out on it were not rude by any means...they were just wondering if I had gone away all together or was just taking a break for one reason or another.

[@Victor-hb4hj]

Do you ever need to dump fuel in an emergency and if so is it done from that panel.

[@CorporatePilotLife]

Neither the Gulfstream or the Hawker can dump fuel in flight. If we have an emergency requiring an immediate landing, we simply land at whatever weight we are at and have the landing gear inspected.

[@hurleyflyer263]

Do not, under any circumstances, press the RED button lol.

[@samuelkeystone]

Yes, pressing the RED button will activate the Ludicrous Speed afterburners.

[@keemez]

The RED ZONE is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no parking in the RED ZONE.

[@Kenny-en7wb]

That Hawker must be ancient..

[@Aimless6]

The original design is from 1962, by 'de Havilant'. The same factory that built the 'Comet', the first passenger jet. The company changed ownership dozens of times, it has been updated dozens of times and was in production until 2010-2013, when Beechcraft went bust. The current owner, Trexton, also owns the rights to the Premier and the Citation. So they understandably focus on the Citation.

[@CorporatePilotLife]

This one is actually fairly new...2005 I think. The design is quite old though.

[@Kenny-en7wb]

@@CorporatePilotLife With the antiquated fueling system and the placement of the APU controls are something from the 90"s

[@stevebond727200]

You probably are aware that years ago a Guldstream was fueled and crashed shortly after takeoff. The aircraft's wings were overpressurized and damaged the integrity of the wings. A lot easier fueling my 2007 Honda Civic! Lol

[@dennismassie3552]

👋🏻KSRQ☀️🌴🇺🇸🛩

[@TheAFChief]

Shaun, You look tired. Corporate flying, Family life, KZbin channel. Don't overdo. Your responsibilities at work and at home trump everything else. Excuse the concern from a 75 year old busy body.

[@zildoadames]

Very Nice vídeo.. 🤝

[@smartycummins2500]

Shaun, I saw once a hawker being refueled above engine #2 towards the back of the engine. Why would they be fueling there?

[@hawkerteach]

That would be on a Hawker 400XP, otherwise known as a Beechjet. Different airplane.