3G Shutdown, It's a Debacle | Dirt Report

[@TechManPat]

Find out if your phone is affected - amta.org.au/3g-closure-old/check-my-device/

[@jasonschubert6828]

Hmm, says my phone _may_ not be supported, so they are just taking a guess. 😕

[@Dragon-69-69]

#06#... USSD code running... Connection problem or invalid MMI code. Also while we are all being financially screwed over AGAIN, lets not forget the government put their own wages up by 10% right in the middle of the plandemic... right in the middle of devastating people businesses and livelihoods creating more homeless than we have ever had. The people who participate in enacting these deliberate evil's, walk away with million$ and million$. No negative consequences for them whatsoever. None. Voting for the opposite/alternative parties, changes nothing. I'm so angry and over it. Thanks for trying to be helpful and truthful Pat.

[@joekerr9036]

The list provided by AMTA differs from the three whitelists kept by the telcos. Surprisingly, two of my phones which failed the AMTA check, passed the Telstra check. Go figure.

[@Out_of-_Box_Thinker]

What a stupid policy ..... If you cannot call 000 then we will prevent you calling anyone else who could arrange help!

[@DavidJordan-o9o]

@@Out_of-_Box_Thinker other countries allow 4g data and provide an app for emergency calling. Australia has one. But someone decided there was not enough rort in this.

[@nickwest1337]

This is what happens when you put people in charge of things that they don’t understand.

[@jasonschubert6828]

That pretty much describes _all_ politicians!

[@joekerr9036]

Michelle Rowland is a lawyer by training. She is clueless. Why put a clueless person with no engineering background in charge of communications. She should be fired !

[@nickwest1337]

@@jh-ii7kg I reckon you're on the money. Another case of our duly elected officials being in the pocket of big business.

[@joekerr7828]

The telcos have implemented a white lists. This is where the problem lies. Perfectly working 4G VOLTE phones which can make emergency calls through 4G but which are not on their white lists are barred.

[@Coz131]

The simple solution should be that if telcos put a working phone on the whitelist should be fined. The entire process has been anti consumer and the gov is complicit.

[@Retro-Iron11]

Thing is we don't know this list so cannot buy accordingly. It's a gamble even buying from an Australian retailer.

[@Gester22]

This isn’t true at all. There is no whitelist. As long as you don’t have a phone that relies on 3G for calls (despite using 4G) you’ll be fine.

[@Retro-Iron11]

@@Gester22 There's a list. My phone was working on 4g volte just fine on the exact frequency that is listed for Australia.

[@PleaseGetReal]

The whitelists are real ! It does NOT matter whether your latest 4G phones support VOLTE and emergency call over 4G. If the first 8 digits (Type Allocation Code (TAC)) of your phone IMEIs are not in their whitelist database, it will be BANNED. Each telco's have their OWN whitelists.

[@sfsdfsdf]

Typical Australia...We are the only country that has done this, every other country in the world has left some 2g or 3g network in place, we are basically the "guinea pig" to see what happens, and the Australian government is unique in that they do what ever the private industry tells them to do and don't think of the consequences . As For the telcos they will love this, is a win-win for them everyone goes out and buys a new phone, i bet we will see budget plans disappearing for a few months.

[@DownUnderAUS]

@@sfsdfsdf You have to remember that Telstra was originally called Telecom and owned by The Australian Government… Australian Labor Party, sold the government’s last voting shares in Telecom that was making at least 10-12% ROI, and Telecom became a publicly traded company on ASX renamed as Telstra… Soon after they became Telstra: they sacked ~1800 Australian employees to send technical support to the Phillipines in attempt to reduce costs and expand Telstra’s reach throughout SE Asia; and has greedily put up their pricing ever since to boost profits and expand their mobile broadband network in Australia after selling HFC networks to NBN.

[@joekerr9036]

PLEASE FIRE THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS, Michelle Rowland ! Because the Minister of Communication, Michelle Rowland issued a directive on 21 August 2024.... "where an end-user’s mobile phone is no longer able to access the emergency call service using either the provider’s own network, or the networks of other carriage service providers who provide carriage services to the public, the carriage service provider is to: within a specified period, notify the end-user that the mobile phone is no longer able to access the emergency call service; at the end of a specified period, CEASE supplying carriage services to the end-user in connection with that mobile phone;" "Australian Communications and Media Authority (Emergency Call Service Determination) Direction 2024" - Federal Register of Legislation - Michelle Rowland

[@DavidJordan-o9o]

@@joekerr9036 being a minister probably means someone is making an a## out of you

[@The_Slavstralian]

Honestly. The department heads in the government involved in this should personally foot the bill for a buyback

[@shaunclarke94]

What decision has the government made that was wrong?

[@joekerr9036]

The Minister of Communications, Michelle Rowland should be FIRED !

[@Joshhy95]

how do we send them the invoice for the new phone I had to go and buy with MY own money because of their stupidity.

[@shaunclarke94]

@@Joshhy95 if you bought a phone that doesn't support modern standards, how is that their fault?

[@Joshhy95]

@@shaunclarke94 bought it back in 2020 and has worked fine until THEY decided to turn off 3g without a work around like India that made an app for non volte phones to still make calls.

[@zarajoe1]

Why can't the government force the telcos to support open standard VOLTE protocols rather than only proprietary ones. First before shutting down the 3g network. Would this not lesson the impact of 3g being shitdown for us locals and for tourists?

[@leftymuller]

Banning phones on a network that is shutting down makes NO sense This is a money grab by the carriers

[@anaesthetics]

They aren't banning phones on the network shutting down.

[@alexstewart786]

The government has found many phones can’t make 000 calls because they can only do on 3G

[@shaunclarke94]

It wasn't the carriers choice, it's being forced by legislation, so no, it's not.

[@lukeclifton4392]

@@alexstewart786…and for those people, 3G was (and will) be the only way to make an emergency call!! This shutdown DOES NOT FIX in any way, the issue it portrays to solve… so you know it is corrupt on many levels.

[@jamiealeksic8428]

@@shaunclarke94 to be fair the telcos lobbied for a lot of that legislation

[@jerryedward9589]

my mi9t phone was cut off by optus, has the right 4g settings VoLTE 2800 band but they decided to cut it off last thursday. just because my phone falls back to 3g in remote arears . After the 3g was cut off, my phone worked fine until they completely blocked it, then the only calls i could make was to 000, go figure! We should all sue the telcos for this debarkle!

[@megadavids1]

@@jerryedward9589 my mi 9t was blocked by Optus, but I just put in a Telstra Sim and it works fine now 👋😁

[@miguelarturobenavidesuniga1182]

same here with my mi9

[@PleaseGetReal]

Please fire the Minister of Communications, Michelle Rowland NOW ! Now tourists coming to Australia cannot use their VOLTE-enabled 4G phone. This is ridiculous.

[@davegiles2120]

My 4g phone is now a brick. Just so Telstra can make bigger profits.

[@moygsa]

no, use wifi like i do.. portable modem, stick the sim in that, WHO NEEDS PHONE CALLS?? i havent for a long long time now. So keep your phone, get a modem. calls ovrr data like the whole reason it began

[@YellowYT]

​@@moygsa 'who needs phone calls' is some of the dumbest statements I've ever seen haha 🤣

[@923EON]

@@moygsa Telstra and Optus have blocked some makes of 4G modems because they assumed they were phones. They are unable to determine whether the device IMEI is a phone or not

[@lumeronswift]

@@davegiles2120 My family's 5G phones are now waste as well :)

[@ruukes4770]

same

[@chrisa1944]

My phone my mother's phone and my brothers phone are 100% compatible with the required 4G bands, does VoLTE calls and can still dials 000 and filthy Optus has blocked them. When I call them up they say it isn't the right frequency. I say I know it 'IS' the right frequency and to stop talking shit to me. I ask him to then specify which frequency he speaks of. He admits he doesn't know. I tell him I do know and that my phone is compatible. I ask to speak to a supervisor. He says they will ring me back, but that never happened.

[@jublywubly]

That's why I always go into Telstra, if I have a problem. That way I can show them in person. It also helps to have print-outs of any relevant information. The best thing is to treat them nice, though. They only know as much as they've been told, too.

[@jjcoolaus]

Switch your family to Vodafone then. Not only do the block the least phones, next year their rural coverage will be as good as Optus because they will use Optus towers and in exchange Optus get to use Vodafone’s spectrum

[@mickwolf1077]

it seems its a bit about control, its also sad that a customer knows more about what a business provides than the business. what a load of crap hey.

[@edwardfletcher7790]

​@@jublywublyAs if Telstra drones have a clue !! LMAO 🤣

[@alexstewart786]

What model numbers are they? You need to support low band 4G 700/850Mhz etc… Also need a phone that can support 000 on 4G/5G

[@TaylorWrightTV]

1. Australia kills 3G 2. Custmers abandon service 3. Starlink drops in price significantly 4. Starlink ramp up satellite production 5. Tesla phones start appearing on the open market 6. Australian TeleCo's go bankrupt 7. Everything gets better.

[@ffsireallydontcare]

@@yardtard Even with how much of a shiftstain Musk is, I'd much prefer to pay Starlink than Telstra. You'll probably get better reception on Starlink than with Optus or Vodaphone to boot...

[@Timic83tc]

Might be our only solution!

[@nordic5490]

@@TaylorWrightTV until you realise that satellite phones rely on direct line of sight with the satellite and will only work outside, not next to a tall object buildings etc, ie, not walking around a city, not under a tree of other shelter, and probably not in a car, and sketchy if heavy cloud. Good luck with your Tesla phone.

[@TauCu]

I have been affected by this. Flagship phone from 2018 with the best Snapdragon chipset available at the time, and it got blocked. Customers shouldn't be paying for the ineptitude of the Regulators and Telcos. Not my fault they didn't standardize VoLTE and do future planning, yet I end up having to pay for it.

[@uDidWatt]

I have a Samsung galaxy s8+ flagship from 2018 too. Thankfully I had already purchased a A54 5G but only because I was planning on replacing the screen myself and didn't want to risk it on my everyday. Was going to keep it as a backup but now it's just a brick, just e-waste

[@derbybOyzZ]

@@uDidWatt It would work overseas? I'm going to sell my old phone on ebay.

[@jjcoolaus]

Since its 5 years old it’s probably due for replacement anyway

[@TauCu]

@@jjcoolaus Why is it due for replacement? I completely reject the idea of throwing things out "just because they're old"

[@rohanjosem]

@@TauCu how do you have a snapdragon s8 in australia every single samsung flagship phone in australia except the s22 s23 and the s24 ultra have all been exynos chips? did you import it ? if so thats the reason it wont work. yes its silly but its the risk you take when you grey import devices. if it wasnt imported and your just mistaken on what chip you have here yeah thats pretty sad

[@craigjones8558]

It's making my life stressful as a small startup ISP. Another example of corrupt Australian politics imo

[@shaunclarke94]

If you're an ISP what are you using the other carriers mobile networks for?

[@brendanmichaelwelsh6260]

They have been talking about the 3G shutdown for FOUR YEARS. This didn't magically just pop up this week.

[@craigjones8558]

@@shaunclarke94 We resell Telstra Wholesale SIM's via a wholesaler. We build our wireless network for internet, but difficult building a national mobile network. Maybe one day! Cheers

[@Retro-Iron11]

@@shaunclarke94 Every, (most), isp uses either voda/telstra/optus. Not everyone has the capital to roll out phone towers and supporting infrastructure.

[@DanielW-x4v]

@@shaunclarke94 The vast majority of ISPs in Australia are resellers that rent or resell capacity from larger telcos

[@ptsai514]

It's definitely a bugger for tourists, people on business trips and international students.

[@joekerr9036]

Tourists and international students who have foreign SIM cards on roaming will have problems accessing the mobile networks. People who purchased 4G dongles for their laptops will also face issue if they did not buy them from the telcos.

[@tonym7012]

We are closing 3g and forcing people who probably can't affiord it to but new devices just so 4g and 5g can be made better for those who can afford a new phone every year!

[@James_Knott]

Who's going to pay for maintaining an obsolete network, with few users? What about the waste of expensive spectrum by keeping 3G?

[@buckrogers3727]

Expecting Australian politicians to think things through is where it went wrong. There is also the telcos contributions to political parties that ensure they will make an enormous windfall out of this!

[@fstop9466]

This appears a helping hand for Oz telco sales nothing to do 3G function. So where's the refund for our new bricks Albozo?

[@jjcoolaus]

If you bought the phone less than 2 years ago in Australia then you are entitled to a refund

[@davidflorey]

I live less than 10 mins from town, on a mountain side and can see the towers in town. My mobile would get 4G everywhere except in the house which would flip to 3g (house if completely surrounded in sheet metal). Now I get NOTHING at all, no service. iPhone 13 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro both dead in the water!!

[@CharlieboyK]

It's stupid and an absolute joke, wondering if IMEI spoofing will become a thing

[@PleaseGetReal]

I will give it three more months before it becomes a reality ! What an absolute nanny state ! No country does this except Australia. Singapore has already shutdown both 2G and 3G without implementing a whitelist.

[@fanshaw]

"It's not a phone, its a small tablet."

[@CommanderQ]

The big problem is the lack of technical knowledge in the acma. They've lost all their technical staff due to the APS not paying fair rates for those with the skills. The carriers can't garuntee the phones they haven't sold. The ministerrial direction is to blame, the carriers are arse covering from a legal standpoint. The better direction instead of 'blocking phones that work in all scenarios except emergency' would be notifying the user regularly, and having a test emergency call center. Say weekly sms 'your phone may not work in an emergency, call 111 to try'. Because the carriers don't know for certain - that's the arse covering.

[@joshuadalton6063]

Oh they still have enough tech guys in ACMA, they just get ignored or told to shut up whenever they point out issues like this. Its just as it always was, the chaos that ensures when the technically ignorant managers/sales/product people think they know better than the actual technically competent engineers/developers/etc.

[@CommanderQ]

@joshuadalton6063 I'm not sure I agree, they had problems working out if they should use 50 or 75 ohm cabling when planning a new measurement system... When the receiver was 50 ohm, like most gear (but 90% of what they do these days is TV measurements)

[@Bicketybam68]

I read this in another article about this situation : _Telstra and Optus noted during a Senate inquiry into the shutdown, telecom companies are unable to tell which individual devices suffer from this problem unless have THEY SOLD them._ And yet, when I contacted them last Friday, the agent I was talking to ask if she could contact my phone to confirm it was compatible and said it was perfectly fine 5G (I didn't buy from them) and will work properly once I get the new sim. So who are they lying to? Are their Telstra Agents you contact from their website lying to the customers or are they just bloody inept... or did they FLAT OUT lie to a Senate Enquiry?

[@lucasvyner1502]

white lie to cover their butt, i have no doubt the are aware of more than that statement at face value but the arent going on record saying they know the full extent of the issue when they can't (don't know what they don't know about products and support for what they don't sell) and then have it bite them in the a$$ when something out of their control turns into a serious situation. You gotta remember, this isn't just phones, it's modems, eftpos, certain gps, security systems backups and a whole host of other devices they would be on the hook for to figure out, stretching back decades old in some cases.

[@levinrin920]

This shut down is criminal

[@meaderanizer228]

My LGV60 on Aldi Mobile doesn't work now. Incredible this can happen in a country the size and population of Australia

[@awc900]

My LG V50 is okay on Telstra but to be blocked on Optus. It was originally a Telstra sourced phone so Telstra seems to be giving it a pass. My spare phone is a an American (retail version) LG V35 which will likely be blocked as soon as I try to use it.

[@brendanmichaelwelsh6260]

The countries size and lack of population is why this is happening. they want to recycle the 3G spectrum for 4G / 5G

[@mfungyz]

I've got a LG V40 on the Optus network which still works fine. Interesting that your newer V60 is blocked.

[@awc900]

@@mfungyz I don't think LG sold the V60 in Australia so it's likely being blocked as an overseas phone? That doesn't explain why Optus wants to block my (originally) Telstra sourced V50. Incidentally, the blocking usually doesn't occur until 3G is switched off in your area. It's still running currently on Telstra and Optus where I am.

[@borisjevic6338]

Yes, well, I also have a LG V60 European version and became bricked by Optus on the 1st of November. No issues until then. I treid both Vodafone and Telstra, and for both it was able to connect but only for data except for Telstra, since there's still WCDMA in the area and I got to make 1 phone xall before i was kicked to the 4G network. As there's no 5G tower near me, I was unable to test with those networks. The issue is with the IMIE that they get blacklisted and shared between them. The phone IS capable of of VoLTE, HD & VoWiFi but because it wasn't sold here, they disabled it and removed the provisioning from IMS. So now, can either do the Indonesian way and flash a new IMEI to a compatible type or use an IMS patch and sodeload from another brand lime Google Pixrl etc. They have also banned the European Sony Xperia 1 VI that has the e-sim option and for now the Asian variants still work but my LG V60 is a brick with optis and they gave me a "free" old ZTE disguised as an "Optus X Start 4". I have not even registered it on google and using it as a generic phone for now. Will wait and see what they'll do with the Sjarp Aquos R9 and the Sony XPERIA 1 VI - Asian editions.

[@notathome13]

This shutdown is fast becoming a reason to stamp out competition of overseas phones. LTE standards and well known but carrier customisation is the stinking pile on white elephant dung in the corner.

[@JimmyCall]

My Chinese purchased devices (MediaTek Dimensity 810 (4G/5G/VoLTE) & Unisoc T618 (4G/VoLTE), based) are working, but I'm worried for 4th of Nov (tomorrow). A proper transition would have been to allow owners to sign off to 000 ability and retain service.

[@smartalec_christmas]

Question, if this shutdown was for any device that used the 3G network or needed that network for 000, Why are they disabling so many 4G Data only appliances?

[@jjcoolaus]

They aren’t, it’s only phones. If you have a 4G data device with no signal then doesn’t support 700MHz band 28

[@DavidJordan-o9o]

@@smartalec_christmas because they can, and no one in the ministry concerned cares one iota about users. Rather more interested in telcos making profit from forced sales. Imagine the petrol stations baring cars you did not buy from the petrol company, and banning that car from all roads

[@tomjones5338]

AI is there goal

[@James_Knott]

@@jjcoolaus Do they only use the one band in Australia? I'm in Canada, on Rogers, and they have a few bands for 5G between 600 MHz and 3.5 GHz. They also have a few bands for 4G. Go onto Wikipedia and look up Rogers Wireless, to see a chart of the bands they use.

[@TheSnowLeopard]

Because their lists of the functionality of devices is based on IMEI TAC codes are inherently inaccurate.

[@slypig24]

Also some DORO phones, that are large button flip phone for the elderly. (non smart 4G phone) We brought Doro modem 6880 only 9 months ago for $500 because it was the only Easy use phone for Elderly without a touch screen. And had an emergency button on back of phone that easy to press when closed. This 3G shutdown is a Big blunder by our government & gready telcos.

[@downtoearth1950]

CDMA had the best coverage and they shut it down 😡🤬

[@itsmeruben1516]

@downtoearth1950 I think they are using the spectrum of 3G to make 4G and 5G go further so you should have good 4G or 5G once the switch over is complete

[@donaldwayne4219]

YES CDMA. Had a tiny LG phone with pullout Ariel and solid buttons. Many years, no problems till they shut it down, Damn, good times.

[@zubinix]

My old HTC U11 can no longer take calls or access carrier broadband services even though it has full support for VoLTE. Disappointing.

[@DaBoomDude]

ill bet you its just with your provider - if youre on telstra, try seing if someones voda or optus SIMS will make your phone work. if youre voda or optus, try the same for telstra. its highly likely one carrier will support it and the other wont. this is because VOLTE isnt standardised - theres an open implementation (voda, optus) and a proprietary implementation (telstra) some phones only work with one or the other implementation.

[@likeapro9329]

I have a HTC U23 pro (5G phone with VoLTE) , a replacement sim fixed it for 3 hours it was then sim blocked and not usable anymore ... Phone is less than a year old..

[@plukkaduck8347]

I was advised I needed a new phone (due to 3g). I got a new phone. A few months later I was re-advised the original would work after all. :(

[@RemusKingOfRome]

Yeah, I didn't trust anyone, no one really knows what's going on. I waited till early Nov to test it, and it works ??

[@jjcoolaus]

Then you are entitled to a refund

[@Coz131]

Return your phone to the retailer.

[@plukkaduck8347]

@@Coz131 I'm using the original as a powerbank and backup now...all good I guess lol

[@marcjost509]

So true, I just bought a new phone, they then blocked it within 3hrs, had to send back for a refund, the government is a discrace, they can afford brand name phones that costs thousands while struggling everyday people can't and get punished, dosent pass the pub test 😢

[@letitiabeausoleil4025]

All our campus vending machines went offline here on Sept 30th. We've been operating on coins again.

[@shaunclarke94]

That's on them, they've known about this for years.

[@charleyhorse6346]

I fought hard for you to keep your coins. If I hadn’t you wouldn’t be able to eat.

[@shaunclarke94]

@@charleyhorse6346 what do you mean?

[@tomjones5338]

There village idiots they get kickbacks and bribes

[@James_Knott]

"on coins again" On what??? 🙂

[@gamerdudegamerdude4961]

This is worse, blacklisting phone brands to not work on certain network is anti-consumer even if it has all the required capabilities/functions.

[@patrickhoward3334]

I wonder if Telstra and Optus will have to shut down all the mobile broadband and hotspot devices, after all they can't make 000 calls. I know they won't but my 4G OnePlus device that I just used for internet now doesn't work. It stinks that they get to pick and choose the devices but claim they are just following the law

[@tonym7012]

Not just phones. TVs and PVRs are being made obsolete by changes to transmission formats by ostensibly free to air networks. Is there a conspiracy between TV networks and electronics manufacturers?

[@Anon-fv9ee]

I’ve experienced this. I still use a 2009 Sharp LCD TV. Some SBS channels went to a black screen but still had audio. If I then re-scan the channel gets lost completely. For some reason they’ve chosen to switch from standard to high-def without warning (my TV is only standard def). I’ve lost heaps of free-to-air stations.

[@ffsireallydontcare]

@@Anon-fv9ee Yeh this will be an MPEG2 to H264 move. Yeh it sucks, but H264 offers superior picture quality at the same bandwidth, or similar picture quality at a fraction of the bandwidth. For me MPEG2 at the bandwidth the stations want to use per channel is unwatchable, but the stations drop the bandwidth so they can pump more shopping channels down their allocated tranmission bandwidth. You should be able to find an H264 capable set top box like we had in the analog to digital transition. There are plenty out there that also offer recording capability to USB stick (unencrypted too!), but if you get a cheapie from China don't connect it to your network.

[@griffin1366]

@@Anon-fv9ee I have a Pioneer Kuro. Probably time to upgrade to OLED but it sucks. I pretty much just use a home theatre PC now as most of the channels don't work, and are pretty bad anyway!

[@Anon-fv9ee]

@@ffsireallydontcare Yep. I worked out the channels I lost were only shopping or re-runs of old sitcoms in 4:3 aspect and low resolution, so I’m not missing too much. I have the tv connected via the VGA port to my tower running Win10, so it’s a great monitor for youtube (and other websites). I like being able to switch between tv & pc with the remote, so I never leave the couch! But I may consider H264 box if I lose any more channels.

[@vfredsim]

No other country nuked both. VoLTE isn't actually a standard. It's a carrier capability. There's a reason it's either GSM or 3G. Not both

[@edwardfletcher7790]

Optus are banning Telstra phones !!! My Samsung S8 has been blocked ☹️ We're now one of the very few countries in the world without 2G AND 3G. For a HUGE country, not having long distance comms is INSANE !!

[@shaunclarke94]

Distance has nothing to do with 3G. It's frequencies/bands. As 3G is switched off that spectrum can be repurposed for 4G/5G.

[@JimmyCall]

@@shaunclarke94 usually the protocols improve speed, and to improve speed usually the frequency is increased to carry more bits. Lower bands travel further.

[@tonyphotiou1742]

@edwardfletcher7790 I have an Galaxy S8. I was told it wouldn't work, so replaced it with S24. As of yesterday, S8 was working fine with Everyday Mobile and Amaysim.

[@shaunclarke94]

@@JimmyCall but bands and generation aren't the same thing. You can have 4G on a high or low frequency, just like 3G.

[@JimmyCall]

@@shaunclarke94 Agree.

[@jamieferguson935]

We had the shutdown and subsequent upgrade here and there was no mobile (Telstra) for a week, utter chaos for many of the businesses that use it for their eftpos, the cash is king people were loving it.

[@shaunclarke94]

4G didn't work?

[@jamieferguson935]

@shaunclarke94 None of the G's worked for 95% of the week

[@shaunclarke94]

@@jamieferguson935 ouch. This is where having EFTPOS terminals that have more than one communication method pays off.

[@williameldridge2015]

Similar problem here too

[@jamieferguson935]

@williameldridge2015 Way too long.

[@ThunnusAlbacares]

Nope , i live rural in S.E NSW, and we've been told about this comming to an end for years, we have basicly garbage mobile coverage as was found out when the bushfires came through 4 years ago, but nothing ever gets done.

[@Pringles2.0]

This is why most mobile providers will switch to Starlink. ONE NZ does this in New Zealand already and the coverage is near 100%

[@James_Knott]

@@Pringles2.0 The problem with Starlink is it's owned by Elon Musk!

[@RemusKingOfRome]

@@James_Knott ... evil ... evil .. Elon

[@Bobo-ox7fj]

@@James_Knott Why is that a problem lol

[@Pringles2.0]

@@James_Knott 💯%

[@UNDEROCEAN7]

The joke about 5g and 5g phones is that they are more powerful emf wise yet dont have great reception. My old 4g phone always has more reception than my partners new iphone! 3g seems and felt like a much safer option its a shame 5g is being forced upon us as well as all the smart devices. Wish I was living back in the 80s where tech stuff was more basic back then!

[@rakeau]

If they're doing it just to force people onto phones that can failover in an emergency, they should instead just allow the phone but instead send a SMS to that service when a known impacted phone (identified via IMEI) joins the network. That way you get a notification and can be aware of the limitation, but continue to use it otherwise.

[@DanielW-x4v]

I imagine they didn't want to block the phones really but they had to because they would be required to ensure 000 access to all phones within range of their cell towers

[@rakeau]

@ I would think if a customer “BYO”-s a device, then any incompatibility issues is not the fault of the carriers networks. It would make sense to allow the devices, but caveat emptor.

[@DanielW-x4v]

@@rakeau I personally don’t think it would be the telcos fault but the ACMA doesn’t agree

[@lr2181]

This has been a problem for years before the shutdown. I live rurally in Queensland. My flagship Sony Xperia phone always got the message in some spots that voice calling wasn't available. That was manageable, it was mostly really remote places where reception was poor anyway and only one Telstra tower was available. However they also arbitrarily had a list of phones for the network and only phones on that list could make wifi calls. Now the list maintained by the Telstra absolutely blocks non standard phones. Which sucks because you really do get better range buying overseas phones (I have bought my ideal phone that wasn't even realised in Australia) and you have to be careful even buying secondhand phones off eBay now just because the IMEI number isn't inherently one your provider recognises and you can't check that code beforehand.

[@mickwolf1077]

I've always had overseas Sony phones and found the same thing, they worked much better, now apparently only the Xperia 1 VI will work and is the only one available on Australian e stores so thats what I bought. just waiting for it to arrive.

[@Knackersjewels]

@@mickwolf1077 The old Xperia XZ works, I had one to use while I waited for my 1 VI to arrive. 1 I and 1 II no dice

[@alanrutlidge4767]

@@Knackersjewels Telstra blocked my Sony XZ Premium even though it was purchased here in Australia from an Australian retailer and is listed on their website as a 4G VoLTE compatible handset. The reason I was given for them blocking my handset was "... because you didn't buy it from Telstra......" Yes, it does support VoLTE on 4G and uses all the Australian mobile frequency bands but they still blocked it anyway.

[@williameldridge2015]

Sony Xperia I V was my ideal phone. It's been blocked too.

[@satos1]

How odd that my phone can make 000 calls with or without a SIM card. Thank you Telstra and Optus for rendering my phone a brick. I smell a rat here that the government wants to eliminate Chinese phones.

[@PanoptesDreams]

No. Because Chinese handsets will still be sold. Wrong conspiracy buddy.

[@megadavids1]

I agree 💯

[@raxxisjoris5450]

I was advised to buy a new phone by Optus because of the 3G shutdown. Bought a redmi note 12 4G/5G android 14 and was then told that wont work. Its not approved because it was a global model. I mentioned the redmi note 11 pro I was calling on was the model before and is approved on the atma check and i got a "that's weird, i cant explain that". Seems like the telcos have no idea and just engaging in anti competative behaviour targeting OS phones with out testing them. Cut my kids phone of because it wasnt safe to have a phone that couldn't call 000. Better he cant make any calls after school because you cut it off the network with no warning. Much safer. Bastards.

[@borisjevic6338]

They do NOT want internationally sourced phones as the middlemen here don't get their cut. Happened to me too on Friday morning, the 1st of November, 2024. Mine was classified as a maybe. I'm with optus but will dump them. Already have raised a different issue in regards to receiving a replacement modem due to it constantly dropping out due to it being old they wanted me to re-contract, then they agreed then that I needed to pay then half then free then two days later they called back and said that they wont send it and dared me to call the ombudsmen and that they don't give a sh*t if I do! So I now have. In regards to the mobile, they literally have grayed it out on their system to NOT provision the IMS to my phone, so it will NOT DO VoLTE, HD, VoWiFi! Yeah, there are secret menus that you can access, so the easiest way now is to flash a new IMEI and impersonate a different make and midel phone!

[@lumeronswift]

Earlier this year, I gave someone in my family my Australia-bought Google Pixel 2XL that was still working nicely. It is now blocked.

[@JimmyCall]

WOW, you'd think that was new enough to work.

[@JimmyCall]

Android has a telephony patch app. I wonder if that would be available or help?

[@DaBoomDude]

@@JimmyCall likley a scam - youd need to root the phone to manually flash a different MBN file in the protected system folders to even have a chance of getting your own phone to work. and rooting a phone is generally different for every unique phone one the market - it would also cause the phone to fail software integrity and stop certain apps from working.

[@JimmyCall]

@@DaBoomDude Maybe. I presumed that the Telco sim may have the unique files, and the protocol if implemented properly would read it and work with it. My Chinese phone and tablet work perfect, post change. I'm on vodafone though.

[@DaBoomDude]

@JimmyCall it wouldn't be the Sim but on the phone itself, otherwise you'd just need a new SIM. These files have to do with interfacing with the phones baseband. And are apart of the phones system files, you need special software tools to even see them, never mind extract them.

[@mmorgz6622]

me n my brother both spent a good few quid on new higher end phones so we wouldnt have to get new ones for quite a few years and then this stupid 3g crap started... we have had to fork out AGAIN several hundred each for new phones and our others were perfect but now bricked. on top of that, our roku TV stopped working so there is another $100 on a new TV box, the eftpos machine at work is also bricked. telstra should be forced to compensate all of their customers who had 3G required devices. Absolutely absured that it was even allowed to happen like this and in such a short period. there should have been a good 10yr notice followed by 3g devices being phased out over atleast an 7-8yr period and by the time that 10 years would be up, there would be minimal stuff in use requiring it and the change could happen with minimal impact.

[@Retro-Iron11]

You can bet my next phone purchase is getting tax deducted. Stuff the bastards. Need it for work and was happy on my previously fully technically compliant phone that was working on volte flawlessly only to be banned due to local protectionism. If not for work I'd actually just cancel my phone plan outright as I really don't need one at all.

[@JimmyCall]

You'd have to sue the Federal Government, not Telstra, as this is via legislation. Constitutional Just Terms compensation claim to the Communication Dept.

[@stephenw2992]

@@JimmyCall The Telcos pushed the government to do this

[@LiamOLuachra]

We've had over 5 years notice mate. That's plenty of time.

[@mmorgz6622]

@LiamOLuachra never heard a thing about it until earlier this year. And that still doesn't solve the issue that 3G reliant devices were still being sold too

[@continental_drift]

Thanks, you've explained why I am getting so many data blackouts now. I use the internet for my radio in the car and I get dropouts where it never happened before.

[@Gumplayer2]

for more than 10 years in Australia, I did not need to make a single emergency call. Now I need to make, to say them what I feel

[@mr_cramberry]

Absolute f up. All for the sake so they can better track our footprint/ movement.

[@oldieman730]

So far you are the only one to recognise how obvious it is.

[@jublywubly]

That's the just thing. If phones can call regular phone lines, they will still be able to phone 000. That would surely mean it's just their tracking portion that wouldn't work. (I'm not a telecommunications technician.)

[@Retro-Iron11]

@@jublywubly The tracking still works, they just want it more precise and faster.

[@tomjones5338]

It's simple get rid of your phone use a landline i don't own a computer or ever have a internet bill or internet banking do want it don't rely on it

[@Retro-Iron11]

@@tomjones5338 We went the opposite because of the line rental alone, let alone any calls. It was pushing $30/month even pre-coof so we ditched it. Also the only people that were calling were spammers every half hour. So we were paying a premium to be constantly bugged by cold calls all day. Screw that. I only use a desktop computer for everything. No way I'm internet banking on my phone that's full of tracking garbage even after I go in and manually remove stuff through adb console. All most apps are are extremely dumbed down in functionality and design front pages for websites anyway yet filled with man in the middle who knows what.

[@hendrikakwan]

This is a disservice to everyone visiting...n yes compatibility is a major issue with carrier locked devices. Very upsetting as my dad just visited from Singapore last week for a month. Now his phones are bricked!! Very dangerous

[@paulaus]

Overseas roaming SIMs are not blocked unless you bring a phone from OS and put in a local SIM. If you take your phone home again and put in the Singapore SIm it will work fine. Nothing is bricked.

[@hendrikakwan]

@paulaus thank you ..I hope this BS with the network will be sorted. This is just lame

[@joekerr9036]

@@paulaus Are you sure ? My son cannot received SMS messages on his foreign SIM Card.

[@drifta1167]

Absolutely effecting me and my elderly parents who are on a pension that can't afford new phone, mind you there phones are practically new, this is an outrage and thats the government screwing us again

[@bigwoodrz]

This shutdown has shown memories of when the decided to close the CDMA networks some years back. Bet they have another use for the 3G system.

[@mattscomp]

My OnePlus Pro 7 from 2019. Which was a flagship has been blocked 😢 It's not my primary phone. It's still disappointing and annoying. I had enabled VOLTE calling and that was working 100 percent. I know it's because of the emergency calling and the inability of this handset to do it. This could have all been handled so much better. Not just giving our telcos and others an opportunity to sell millions of new phones. Plus sending millions of working devices to trash/ewaste. Ugh why why? So bloody silly and wasteful.

[@Joshhy95]

That's sucks man, i just sold mine on ebay as I had it working but was unsure whether it would work so this confirms the fact it would've been blocked. Doesn't help Oneplus makes turning on Volte a nightmare without thr access to engineer mode in OOS12 or the fact you have to go back to Android 11 to load mbns which was unreliable at times

[@mattscomp]

@42RANGA it does indeed. I read somewhere. In another country. It may have been India. Where they (the Govt) made emergency calls work via an App. Rather than simply rendering so many phones useless by a mass block. The whole thing is not dissimilar to Microsoft making Windows 11 requirements what they are. And then forcing people to replace working systems. These people that make these decisions have to make a decision in that they truly care environmentally or they don't. Pick a side right?? Condemning working devices to simply get chucked in the garbage. Like with computers. People still replace their phones. If they break them. Or lose them. Just want an upgrade. But what is wrong with somebody that wants to continue using their older device? Or they hand them down to their kids or someone less fortunate. Or sell them to help pay for their new device etc. It's just so very wrong. This is exactly where some govt body ought to be saying nope. You shouldn't be doing this. Instead they are enabling it. :-/

[@Joshhy95]

@@mattscomp This is exactly why i think the whole net zero and recycling thing is a load of BS as they have gone and created so much e-waste now. People cant even get good money for phones anymore and think about the refurbishing shops that have stockpiles of parts and phones that are now useless. I heard about the app for calling, would've been possible but no, too hard for Australia.

[@damson3413]

*rubs fingers together* *smiles in merchant* You know why it happened. greed.

[@awc900]

I replaced my phone back in August as despite it being a 4G/5G device, it wasn't VoLTE capable. Three or four weeks ago I started getting stern warnings from Optus that it had deemed my phone as unsafe and would be blocked after October 28th. I then bought a new (but old stock) Optus branded OPPO phone which I'm now using but out of interest, I tried an ALDI (Telstra) SIM in the phone I bought in August and was informed that this phone was not affected by the 3G shutdown. That phone was originally a Telstra sourced 4G/5G device running Telstra firmware which I had bought used. It seems Optus doesn't like phones sourced from it's opposition and I could have saved myself several hundred dollars by just changing provider.

[@JimmyCall]

My advice if your phone is blocked is to test other people's sims, and then change to the Telco that works.

[@ToxicTeemoOCE]

Optus were telling me my phone would be blocked, I changed to Vodafone, phone is working fine

[@davidflorey]

It’s like the old GSM days where you had to be sure the device you purchased would work on the network before signing up for a plan, we got away from that crap when 3G came out and now we’re back to that old way of life again…

[@awc900]

@@davidflorey What came with 3G leaves with 3G.

[@DaBoomDude]

nope - its just differences between the way optus and telstra implements VoLTE - teltra follows their own proprietary standard, and optus/voda is following a more open standard - VoLTE was never officially standardised. so some fully supported VoLTE phones will only work on one or the other standard. other phones might work on all of them. and there's no real way to tell if they will or wont without attempting to use them and seeing if they trip the carriers detection system.

[@CraftopiaDigitalDesigns]

One issue i have is 5G. The amount of mobile phones being g sold, yet no 5G service available in many areas. Australia is so outdated in internet speeds also. They really need to lift their game. Also what are the prices of phones that are compatible with the new setup? Many elderly or disadvantaged people cannot afford the highly expensive mobile phones. Me included.

[@PleaseGetReal]

"Communications Minister Michelle Rowland urged to quit over reportedly accepting Sportsbet donations" - ABC News So how much donations did she receive from the telcos this time ? She should be fired !

[@businessashusual]

Whitelisting on the basis of a feature that is rarely used? Ridiculous nanny statism at it again.

[@Nissan350z33]

What about dialing 112 for emergencies. I have a ZTE T126 in the car I haven't got a SIM in it, as I don't need a SIM card in it to call 000 or 112. Will it work calling 112?

[@edwardfletcher7790]

Lots of Aussie phones hitting NZ secondhand sales !!

[@N1ghtR1der666]

this is a big business backed move only

[@Epic3032]

Thankfully, my Note10+ isn't affected and is compatible. The phones that got disabled can be used as modems?

[@cwhast]

@@Epic3032 My understanding is the incompatible devices are being refused authentication with the networks, so they can’t even be used as data only devices like a modem.

[@Knackersjewels]

Nope, completely blocked, can't even access data.

[@Epic3032]

@@Knackersjewels That really sucks, and they so-called champions of the "environment" lol

[@UpLateGeek]

Yeah, a colleague at work discovered this exact problem. His phone has 4G, but it also lost all access as soon as the 3G was shutdown. They even sent us a big list of users on our account that would be disconnected, and his wasn't on the list. We're also seeing coverage issues, we replaced over 100 3G modems/routers with new 4G models, but some have marginal or no reception. They're used in regional areas for remote telemetry and control of equipment, so not having the ability to monitor and control the equipment could mean we don't find out there's a problem until a customer complains about it, and fixing the issue could require a technician to drive to site, sometimes hours away. So rather than being able to address an issue before it becomes an annoying problem for our customers, it could mean they're without our service for anywhere from hours to a day, potentially longer if our techs are already booked out.

[@borisjevic6338]

Hey, I totally get it. I was looking about solutions to this years ago and had come up with a few ways for long distance. More than happy to share, since it seems that you need low bandwidth and then connection to a modem that has access to internet. Let me know and I can share what I had researched back then.

[@josephcullen2512]

It has to be some kind of corrupt or conspiratorial nonsense and it's completely unacceptable

[@iggytse]

I tested my father’s old phone he bought from Aldi probably 10 years old. I dialed 000 with no sim and surprisingly it worked.

[@paulaus]

It's unlawful to make test calls to 000 not to mention incredibly stupid

[@dpinno7017]

@@paulaus So the Telco's can say your phone is blocked because it may or may not make emergency 000 calls Oh. and btw it's illegal to check this out so you just have to believe us. I have a dual sim phone with Optus and Telstra sims in it. The Optus sim works fine and the Telstra sim is now blocked. Very confusing

[@iggytse]

@ it is unlawful if you had the intent to create a belief there was an emergency. That would mean talking to a human operator and lying about your reason for calling, basically making a hoax call.

[@paulaus]

@@dpinno7017 Grow up

[@Mproud661]

I tried using 4G phone with a data only Optus sim as a hotspot. It’s working perfectly. It doesn’t support VOlte. With the lack of 3G on my Telstra phone in the bush, coverage will be lost as there is areas with 3G but didn’t indicate on the maps. If you contact Telstra, they said they matched 4g coverage map with 3G wich may be true but the coverage is completely different in reality! I also noticed if I’m in a low signal area, 4G calls drop all the time but 3G in the exact area works fine.

[@JimmyCall]

I was wondering is there's an exemption for 4G only modems. I have a 4G modem and will try to use it if my phones die after 4th of Nov.

[@Mproud661]

@ I believe they blocked phones using a sim that can call and text. I’m using an iPhone 5s and it doesn’t even have band 28 or VoLTE. Edit: Optus just blocked this device from accessing data.

[@Mproud661]

@ I also have a 4G modem without band 28 as well so we’ll have to see if their effected but these modems can’t call so I can’t see them blocking them

[@Severtaur]

To play devils advocate, if any business sells a product that start costing the business money the the business is going to look at stop providing that product. another point if seen is sometime s in regional committees enough people company and challenge the development of new Telstra Towers, and even NBN towers, some times to the point where the tower id delayed significantly or given up on, then the same communities complains about poor service, this wont be be true for dead spots now created but perhaps some. There is also the element of when older gear fails it's harder and more expensive to replace, Has Telstra's 3G hardware vendor stopped producing 3G Cell components or are they only being made international where trade traffis/supply/insert any other reason that makes it unlivable to keep maintaining the 3G. I'm not saying Telstra's processes and intent has been flawless or haven't in some part been driven by greed, i just want to make the point that we shouldn't see them as an absolute villain either on this topic.

[@downundarob]

I live in a far north major population centre, I've just spent a week in Hospital, on Tuesday Morning my 5g capable Samsung Galaxy s21 indicted Emergency Calls only, after a power cycle I was unable to send or receive any data, (but could SMS and make phone calls).

[@dalechenoweth915]

My phone is made of 101% pure Chinesium. So far, it's unstoppable.

[@uDidWatt]

I've been affected, as of right now my mum's emergency dialer pendant does not work. We will have to get a new one and hope and pray nothing bad happens in the meantime. She had a stroke, can't talk and can barely walk

[@set3777]

instead of complaining, why not push the Emergency Services to ALSO support Whatapp calls. Phones and tablets that can't make VoLTE calls, CAN make whatapp calls and messaging to other whatsapp users.

[@shaunclarke94]

Because that would be against the ToS for WhatsApp. It's not at all designed to be used for emergency calling.

[@set3777]

@@shaunclarke94 Why are you talking RUBBISH? Emergency services should just negotiate and provide more ways of being contacted!

[@shaunclarke94]

@@set3777 rubbish? Have you even read the terms of service? 🤣 "NO ACCESS TO EMERGENCY SERVICES: There are important differences between our Services and your mobile phone and a fixed-line telephone and SMS services. Our Services do not provide access to emergency services or emergency services providers, including the police, fire departments, or hospitals, or otherwise connect to public safety answering points. You should ensure you can contact your relevant emergency services providers through a mobile phone, a fixed-line telephone, or other service." It's absolutely not on WhatsApp to provide emergency service calls, and there are extremely valid reasons they don't.

[@TheRoche94]

Just before the disconnection of the 3g network, Optus in my suburb decided to decommission a fully function 4g/5g cell tower. Before removal they sent me a sms stating that the area is getting 'upgraded' and may interrupt service during the 3 days of upgrade. During and after supposed 'upgrade', the tower was turned off and has since been physically removed from location. leaving my address and the surrounding suburb with a very poor 4g signal which constanly drops out, due to now connected to a cell tower too far away. now forcing the area into a black spot. (so much for an upgrade). now i have been forced to a nbn fttc connection, which now has its own problems ie lead in cable and unit wiring not connected properly. The governent, telcos and the NBN services are a massive let down in general. My signal wouldnt be as bad if the 3g was still around :(

[@TechnoMinarchist]

The real reason for why they've done this is because they're pushing for 15 minute cities.

[@sharpenednoodles]

Has the 3G network been disabled yet, or is it just a softlock? I seem to still be able to connect my 5G phone to a 3G network and access the network without issues (Optus MVNO)

[@griffin1366]

They are doing it in stages it would seem. And likely just turning them off, not removing them until it's all off.

[@H4NGM4NDVD]

good luck to all the homeless with bricked phones

[@tealkerberus748]

And yes, the phone my daughter bought only a few months ago just got bricked by the government. The same make and model bought in an Australian outlet would be whitelisted, but because she bought hers on eBay, it's bricked. She's not happy.

[@Nerdificationing]

Question - under Australian Consumer Law - wouldn't a phone that doesn't work, constitute a MAJOR FAILURE? Which would warrant a full refund or replacement?

[@rtyt2007]

This shit worries me, how are tourists gonna be able to call 000? Surely if they have international purchased phones they are gonna have issues calling emergency. Couldn’t this result in actual deaths??

[@joeyzoi]

My Xiaomi global version poco m5s and m5 - both bought on AliExpress direct from China have been clered as suitable on Optus. My nieces Poco X5 Global version has been blocked by Telstra. These are draconian measures. Let people decide if they want to use a phone that can't make emergency calls. What a waste of thousands of good phones.

[@ajax8m]

Hi Pat can you do some news on the NBN wirless 400/40 they are rolling out and are they going faster then that?

[@TechManPat]

Ill have a look, cheers

[@ryanm8517]

I get a message played when I try to call saying my phone is one that will be blocked. It hasn't (as of yet anyway). But I have to listen to a recorded message every time I go to call someone. So I'm just constantly harrased by it.

[@gregansen544]

I somehow managed to scrape together A$408 for a Xiaomi Poco X6 Pro and was loving its speed, stability, fast charging, and battery life, particularly for work purposes. Phone model released *_January, 2024._* Purchased May. Problem-free and with nice *_VoLTE_* prior to barring, except for ACMA/Telco paranoia that I would lose the mandatory Emergency Calling. Barred from network around Oct 29. Now: Normal calls (yes, I like them): *_zip, zilch, nada, NOTHING._* Emergency calling: works fine, you *_CLOWNS._* Only a fool would expect less from one of the most advanced phones in the world. So: I want the network bar removed immediately. I want compensation. Per hour.

[@Gumplayer2]

what I see is that 3g network is not removed, it is still there, when travelling I can how my iPhone8 still switches to 3G network in Australia. They just blocked thousands of phones from accessing current existing network for some reason. I can prove by providing screenshots where on same screen you can see date (after 3g shutdown 28 oct) and 3g label

[@SipTimes]

In thailand people using 5G since 2023 without any issue but here in australia pure disappointment.

[@stevenbliss989]

Try being a pensioner being forced to buy these OVERPRICED Telco phones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@pr0ph3t5]

Im using a Xiaomi Pocophone f1. i got a few messages saying that it will not work after the shut down. Everytime i made a phone call i got a long message saying i need to upgrade my phone. Since the shutdown my phone still works, and the message when i make a phone call has changed to a warning that i may not be able to make emergency calls in some locations.

[@TheBraddigan]

Who are you with, may I ask?

[@pr0ph3t5]

Belong. which i believe uses Telstra's network.

[@pr0ph3t5]

Update: as of today my phone no longer sends or receives calls despite the 4g logo in the corner and full bars. Data still works fine though.

[@JQNick]

Definitely noticed the degradation in network coverage out bush with Telstra. People are definitely going to die from this.

[@Wyntar]

My sim enabled camera on my boat is now no longer accessible, it was/is using a telstra sim and is 4G capable but I have lost access to it. It will be a week before I can get to it to see if it is just a coincidence. My cars head unit has a Optus sim and is still working though apparently (according to Optus) with reduced service.

[@jimamizzi1]

My iPhone 11 which says it’s not compatible is working just fine.

[@CastorRabbit]

my iphone 7 is fine

[@ffsireallydontcare]

Apple pays their bribe bills.

[@TheOneWhoMightBe]

I bought a brand new, cheap, Telstra-branded phone two weeks ago just to get me through the transition while the dust settled. It supports volte. Yet SMS' occasionally fail to be recieved. Good job.

[@peteranscombe1162]

Well said. My spare, emergency in case I cannot use my main phone for whatever reason, joined the obsolete list. Replacing it with another hand-me-down is no longer a possibility. Checking the lower end of the market seems to show that there are imported secondhand overseas units available from professional vendors. I think all secondhand phone vendors should be made to guarantee that the item fully compiles with current standards.

[@zaq405]

You can't really blame any Government as the world is moving away from 3G, due to security vulnerabilities. Another channel reports 4G LTE is not an international standard like 3G was, therefore Telcos are responsible for sending out network settings. That's why local Telcos have created their whitelist.

[@GhostofZuuzGaming]

I still have an old 3g eftpos unit at my store and still running on 3g with telstra even today 😅

[@923EON]

It will be working for a bit as Telstra are closing the network off state by state, starting with Tasmania first. It's not a complete shutdown like they advised.

[@JimmyCall]

@@923EON Yeah Tasmania was the first, and they will decommission as the days go on. We are also in Melbourne Cup long weekend for many.

[@shaunclarke94]

If you are aware, why have you not organised to get it replaced?

[@923EON]

@ will be interesting to see if they did it in Melbourne Cup and how much of an effect it would have!

[@GhostofZuuzGaming]

@@shaunclarke94 it's a spare unit, anz replaced the other ones 2 months ago

[@deanstyles2567]

It really should have been mandated a number of years ago that all devices sold new in Australia support E000 over VoLTE.

[@PleaseGetReal]

The current main issue is this: If the first 8 digits (Type Allocation Code (TAC)) of your phone IMEIs are not in the whitelist database of the telcos, it will be BANNED. It has nothing to do with the phone capabilities.

[@James_Knott]

The impression I got from the video is the problem is with the phones bought elsewhere.

[@richardharker2775]

Some will argue the analogue system had no issue.