Techno Production: Maschine MK3 & Ableton Live Integration

[@mcksexton]

Wow!! This is a unique video! I’ve scoured the web awhile back and only found one other video, but it was really hard to watch. Thanks for making this short and sweet! Gave me inspiration to get back into my maschine!!!

[@BruceMennel]

Thanks for watching Kevin and let me know if you have any questions !

[@trxshlord]

Just wanted to post on here a fix for an issue I ran into with this, for anyone that might also have the issue, my default midi track had a utility fx on it which made it have no "midi to" option, so if you are missing a midi to option and only have an audio to option be sure you don't have any audio fx on your track.

[@thisisbelligio]

thank you sooooooooo much dude

[@wernerxldata]

I found this trick earlier for doing the same with Cubase, with a lot of head scratching I got it to work with Ableton. Really good video in explaining this in such a short time without being incomplete.

[@BruceMennel]

Thanks for watching and happy producing with your new Maschine + Ableton Live setup!

[@ElemenoMusic]

When I go under native instruments, I don't see maschine mk3 or 2

[@2rosaryfortv]

Will this script work for Ableton 12?

[@BruceMennel]

It seems that it won't, but I ended up removing the scripts because they slow down Ableton.

[@Bonn5656]

Thanks! It works(; Question, if i load the kit all midi and audio routing is then changed back to default. Is there a way to lock them ? Not to charge audio and midi everytime new kit is loaded? Thanks 🙏🏾

[@BruceMennel]

The kits load with their own routing. I would reroute the kits and save them as .mxprj or create new NKS.

[@manmadesessions]

Hello Bruce, thanks for the video. In Ableton Live 11 it doesn't give me the audio options 3/4, 5/6 etc. it just says Maschine out 2-maschine 2, machine out 3- Maschine 2 etc. Am I missing something? Thanks in advance...

[@BruceMennel]

select your audio track. Under Audio From, 1st drop-down list: Select: 1-Maschine 2. 2nd drop-down list: select your desired stereo input 👌

[@manmadesessions]

That's what I'm saying I don't have the stereo pair option ( 3/4, 5/6 etc. it just says Maschine out 2-maschine 2, machine out 3- Maschine 2 etc.in the 2nd drop-down list. Hmmm @@BruceMennel

[@BruceMennel]

Not sure where your issue comes from. you may have to reinstall the MIDI Remote Script. Are you using another sound card? Let me know if you find the solution thanks!@@manmadesessions

[@djobed.utrecht]

Hi @manmadesessions. I see the same result, not 3/4 5/6, just 1 2 3 4 5. I've downloaded the latest script. I think the main difference is the vst2 - vst3. I'm on a mac m1 pro and only use the maschine vst3. I've tried with AU first but that doesn't work at all. I've also tried kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJqYZYp8e7WFbLM but also vst2, anyone can help us?

[@liamconsidine]

I see 1, 2, 3, 4 not 3/4, 5/6 etc. we'll see if it works

[@kuhliloach8842]

this insane level of workaround all because Maschine is simply not compatible with a DAW?! why doesn't the plug-in work like any other plug-in? like, you load a kit and press Record? is it a bug?

[@BruceMennel]

This is not a workaround and maschine is very compatible with any Daw. You can easily route and reroute your I/O as you wish. You do this once and save the project as template.

[@kuhliloach8842]

I have tried in both Logic and Ableton and no MIDI notes comes out when I record. To prove this just load the Maschine plug-in in either DAW, load a kit, and try to record into your DAW. There are no MIDI notes. @@BruceMennel

[@BruceMennel]

You need to export your MIDI clips to your DAW it's really easy. This is this week's topic so don't miss it!@@kuhliloach8842

[@kuhliloach8842]

@@BruceMennel I found the solution: in Group Midi- Key Mode must be set to Manual, Source must be set to Host, then putting Maschine itself into MIDI mode. Pad colors are then changeable in Controller Editor. Then it works like a normal plug-in.

[@BruceMennel]

one tip: it's much faster to record MIDI clips in maschine and export them to the DAW. @@kuhliloach8842

[@scyhte82]

What are you using the remote script for this scenario? Did is miss something? You don't need that at all for using the Maschine VST inside Live. There's no need to install it if you're not going to use your Maschine controller in MIDI mode.

[@BruceMennel]

The MIDI script is a Native Instruments' recommendation, but I quickly realized it was causing a lot of lag. Honestly, for my setup, I only needed Maschine as a VST inside Live, so the remote script wasn't even necessary.

[@scyhte82]

@@BruceMennel Aight, thought i was going crazy. Sadly, NI themselves don't even know what they're doing with Maschine, looking at that sad little excuse of a Live control surface template they barely managed to make for the MK3.

[@BruceMennel]

@@scyhte82 Thanks for the comment! Yeah, I feel you on that one. NI's integration with Live for the Maschine MK3 does leave a lot to be desired. Personally, I use an APC 40 MK2 as my MIDI controller, and it works really well for Live control.

[@PepFiverr]

3:19 why am I only getting mono outs and not stereo pairs like 3/4 and 5/6?!?

[@BruceMennel]

Not sure where your problem comes from but I have a fix for you: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4fUd4eEf91jh6s there's a complete ableton / maschine template you can download.

[@seymurasad1991]

Thanks! When I use the pad as a audio loop on my Maschine MK3 it is not sent to Ableton Live while recording, but when I stop recording it starts sounding :( Strange

[@BruceMennel]

Thanks for your question! With the Maschine MK3, you can record MIDI sequences that trigger any sample loaded into Maschine. These sequences are essentially instructions for when and how the samples should play. While you can't record audio directly into the MK3 itself, you can work with MIDI sequences to create patterns and tracks that trigger your loaded samples. Let me know if you’d like more details about setting this up!

[@liamconsidine]

Hey @BruceMennel great video, what i've been looking for pretty much. Any hints on how I can make Maschine control ableton's transport (play/stop/loop) etc. so that I can use the rapid midi recording pattern building Maschine offers while using the Maschine software inside Ableton with the routing above? That's the dream - finding it hard to accomplish.

[@BruceMennel]

Super easy: Preferences -> MIDI Tab. in MIDI ports ( In:Maschine MK3 ) Enable Track, Sync & Remote. Now you can control Ableton's transport. Thanks for watching and Happy producing! 😊

[@liamconsidine]

@@BruceMennel hmm this doesn't seem to do anything. I hit the play on the Maschine and nothing happens. In Midi ports, I have Maschine MK3 EXT Midi and Maschine MK3 Ctrl Midi... i tried every combination for both... So you're saying you can hit play button on maschine while using it as a VST in Ableton routed as shown in the video and control the ableton transport from maschine that's my dreaaaam

[@liamconsidine]

If i hit shift Plug-In i get instances and I can switch to the ableton live instance and control the transport but then i lose access to all the maschine options within the VST weird.

[@BruceMennel]

in preference, in the MIDI tab, did you enable Track, sync & remote?@@liamconsidine

[@BruceMennel]

no need to switch instance@@liamconsidine

[@newimaging]

I am trying to connect a Maschine+ but can't find a midi script for that. Any insights in how to use it as a controller ? Thanks

[@BruceMennel]

if not from Native Instruments, not sure where you can get it from. But I ended up deleting the MIDI script from my mac as it causes massive GUI lags in Ableton while using third-party plugins. everything works great.

[@RealWorldMusicLessons]

THANKYOU SO MUCH!

[@BruceMennel]

Thanks for watching this maschine mk3 / Ableton Integration tutorial 😊!

[@iamvolts13]

BRO! Thank you!

[@BruceMennel]

Thanks for watching!

[@61vibefilms]

I've got a Mikro MK3. I'm new to Ableton but I'd LOVE to be able to use my pads as a MIDI in ableton. Does anyone know where and how i can find a template?

[@BruceMennel]

Watch this video and download the complete setup: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4fUd4eEf91jh6s

[@medinarawkz8432]

Does note repeat work with the Maschine controller as well?

[@BruceMennel]

Absolutely. I usually record MIDI sequences in maschine and export them with a simple drag'n drop 🔥

[@cescoztohc7247]

Hi Bruce, this video is very helpful, for beginners like me. once the 16 midi channels and 10 audio channels have been configured in Ableton, I have to save live as a model in AB12. Is this correct? On the audio tracks side I can play my patterns and record clips, listening to every single sound inside ab12 live. everything works fine. I have some problems with midi tracks. I import groove from Maschine mk3 into ab12live and I can hear the entire groove and see the midi notes, but: 1 I don't hear the individual sounds 2 it doesn't record the midi notes that I play in the clips that I create new in ab12, using the Mascine mk3 pads (like I do with the audio tracks mentioned above). Where am I wrong, I don't understand. Thanks in advance for your support.

[@BruceMennel]

Not sure if I understood correctly your problem. 1: after exporting midi patterns to ableton, do you delete them in maschine? if you don't you will have overlapping. check this video's description and download the maschine mk3/ableton template. try it out and tell me if the issue persist. It can't be difficult to solve. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2OxhKB-nNB9sLc

[@cescoztohc7247]

@@BruceMennel You are right!!! I hadn't deleted the patterns on Maschine, that's the problem. Fixed in my mind... Finally I can hear on AB12 every single element of a Maschine drumkit and related midi notes for example, equalize, add fx and more. Total control. thank you thank you thank you.

[@BruceMennel]

@@cescoztohc7247 Awesome! Glad to hear you got it sorted. Having that level of control over each element really opens up so many creative possibilities. Keep experimenting, and feel free to reach out if you need any more tips. 🙌🎛

[@paulrutkovskis]

Thank you! A super rookie producer question: Why do you need 16 midi tracks and 16 audio tracks (especially considering limited CPU resources in my case) instead of 1 MIDI and 1 Audio? I notice that all the things I play on Maschine controller appear in the single audio track anyway (all the 16 pads within the group)? Do you intend to separately apply effects to each track (separately for the clap, separately for the kick etc)?

[@BruceMennel]

In this video, the setup I present is designed to take full advantage of Ableton's built-in audio effects, providing a wider range of options for easy editing and routing, especially when used with an APC controller. Each element can be processed individually and then grouped into busses, ensuring that every sound has its own space to shine. Additionally, there's a significant advantage when it comes to automation-Ableton makes it much easier to draw automations compared to Maschine.

[@paulrutkovskis]

@@BruceMennel Thank you, appreciate the answer!

[@mickimockymo]

Thanks for the video.. What is the benefit of configuring both the Midi and Audio groups? Asking as I have seen simpler configurations for running multiple Maschine instances..

[@BruceMennel]

Hi Michael. If you're a Maschine and Komplete Kontrol user, MIDI tracks will be a time saver: (re)arranging MIDI regions in Maschine can be a pain in the neck and you need to open the software every time you want to do so. The process goes a lot faster in Ableton or Logic Pro X👌

[@mickimockymo]

​@@BruceMennel Thanks.. I use both and will tr y it out :)

[@BruceMennel]

@@mickimockymo let me know how that works for you. You will also draw automations in no time in Ableton or Logic Pro X!

[@Jazman342]

Has anyone tried this with LIve12? There is no remote script for 12. Only 11.

[@BruceMennel]

Hi Stephen. Even tough Native Instruments recommends installing the remote script, I ended up removing those files as they cause major GUI issues. You probably won't even need them Ableton 12.

[@Jazman342]

@@BruceMennel Thanks Bruce.

[@r0tekz]

Nice! Would this also work with Maschine Studio into Ableton Live?

[@BruceMennel]

I haven't tried with maschine studio but it shouldn't be any different.👌

[@toddscot4988]

I followed the script instructions but it’s still not showing up in midi control services in preferences. I’m using ableton 12

[@BruceMennel]

If you want to control Ableton transport with your Maschine MK3, do this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4q4mJd-nLOAm6c

[@rukinmusic1867]

Hey man thx !! Question, since I installed maschine with the remote script, Ableton had become crazy slow and it’s lagging all the time ?

[@BruceMennel]

Great question! I encountered a similar issue where Ableton's GUI became extremely slow after installing the Native Instruments MIDI script. And I found that Ableton operates much more smoothly without it. Despite Native Instruments' recommendation, it seems that removing the MIDI script enhances Ableton's performance. This might not be the solution for everyone, but it's worth trying if you're GUI is lagging.

[@rukinmusic1867]

@@BruceMennel thx man ill try it for sure !! So then how can I use maschine with ableton ?!

[@BruceMennel]

If by that, you mean control transport, here's how you can do it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4q4mJd-nLOAm6c@@rukinmusic1867

[@rukinmusic1867]

@@BruceMennel appreciate, thank you ❤️🤩🎶🔥!!

[@BruceMennel]

Sure thing! Thanks for watching and stay tuned for more maschine ableton videos!@@rukinmusic1867

[@toddscot4988]

Why do we leave the audio input in ableton to none? When I go to select audio import on a track maschine is not a choice

[@BruceMennel]

audio input in Ableton should not be set to none, but your maschine MK3 outputs.

[@yousifsati3325]

My maschine mk3 won’t pop up in the plug in sectripn

[@BruceMennel]

Hi Yousif. Open Ableton and Rescan all your VST plugins. If Maschine still won't show up, I would reinstall the Maschine software from the Native access application.

[@davidj2790]

Hello, having a little trouble maybe its because am clueless. I just purchases ableton live but previously used only the maschine mk3 and the native access library (i.e. kintakt, maschine, etc.). i followed your steps but i cannot select the APC40 MKII as a input/output. What is that for? Also, because of this, I cannot select the appropriate MIDI Ports. The third issue is that i don't see any plug-ins in my ableton. Do i need to do something else? Do i need to use an interface and purchase a MIDI cable? My goal is to be able to connect the MK3 controller to the laptop and open/run ableton as the music production space with my ableton kits/instruments but also the native access library. is that possible? Thank you.

[@BruceMennel]

Hi David. If your APC40 MKII is correctly connected to your Mac/PC via USB, it should appear in the list. In preferences, rescan all you VSTs If this doesn't help, I have a Maschine/Ableton template you can download on my website. Everything is explained in this short video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4fUd4eEf91jh6s Let me know if this works!

[@Lang_Film]

useful

[@BruceMennel]

Thank you!

[@willwonder7266]

Hey Techno I can't Locate The Midi Script

[@BruceMennel]

Hi Will. Go to Applications, Right-click on Live -> show package contents -> contents -> App-Resources -> MIDI Remote Scripts

[@BruceMennel]

Get Maximum Control with this Setup!

[@studioharmoni1]

There has to be a simpler way.. why cant you record all the midi into one channel, why do you have to create so many channels....

[@BruceMennel]

Recording all MIDI into one channel might seem simpler at first, but creating multiple channels has its benefits. Each channel can be assigned to different instruments or sounds, which gives you more control over the mix and the ability to adjust individual tracks more precisely.

[@studioharmoni1]

@@BruceMennel You're right, when I set up Maschine Outputs, my stereo outputs say, "Maschine Out 2 -Maschine 2" and not 3/4. Any idea why?

[@studioharmoni1]

I don't have the APC40 MKII, is this why? I only have the MK3, how do you just integrate Ableton with the Maschine Mk3

[@BruceMennel]

​@@studioharmoni1 It doesn't matter if you don't have the APC40 MKII. additionally, this video will explain how to control transport: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4q4mJd-nLOAm6c

[@JFlo-ln6dx]

I don't have Ableton, but have you tried selecting all the sounds in the Maschine group and then selecting 'sounds to midi notes' in the Maschine file menu? When you drag the midi from Maschine it'll create one midi file. If it's sounds to midi channels. All your sounds will be in a separate midi file when you drag it across.

[@PedroMiguel-if3ll]

Don't bother, stopped working with Ableton 12. Having to use their awful DAW as VST insider another DAW is what made me don't give another penny to this company. All I wanted is to use MK3 to control Kontakt inside Cubase or Ableton. That integration never happened, you need to buy their over expensive keyboard controllers.

[@BruceMennel]

Can you describe the issue you're having with Ableton 12? I ended up removing the MIDI script from my Mac because it was causing excessive lag when using third-party VST plugins. Now everything runs smoothly.

[@PedroMiguel-if3ll]

@@BruceMennel The reason of lag is because you're using NI Maschine DAW inside Ableton. That's a huge CPU hog plus it's a nightmare to set up in-outs and never worked properly. I don't use Maschine DAW, I was referring to load Kontakt VST inside Ableton and use MK3 to control instruments like you can with their keyboard controllers. This was a request for many users over the years but Native never implemented, because obviously they want you to buy their hardware keyboards. If you don't use Maschine as your DAW, the MK3 is pretty useless. Here in the UK there are lots of people selling them for cheap, mine is on Reverb for over a year! There's a reason why it's hard to sell. My advice, if Ableton is your main DAW, just get a Push 2 or 3.

[@PedroMiguel-if3ll]

@@BruceMennel Also I don't like to have to press multiple combinations of buttons just for simple functions. If I have to sit in front of the computer when making music, might as well use the mouse and keyboard, it's much faster!