Techno vs. EDM

[@Guicharge]

00'00: Radio Slave - The Clone Wars 00'15: Jeff Mills - The Bells 01'07: Fanon Flowers - Mode 08 02'03: DVS1 - Evolve 02'31: Reeko - To The Sun 03'02: Steve Stoll - Dumbo 03'43: The Transhumans - Collapsing Human Relations 04'23: Endlec - Force of Future

[@Xema3434]

+Pauline Guivarch ça c'est vraiment sympa! merci (j'allais te dire que tu avais oublié Scrylex hahaha)

[@Guicharge]

De rien:) Et pour Skrillex ça n'aurait pas été un grand oubli !(Quoique en live c'est "moins pire" que ce qu'on pourrait croire ^^)

[@Xema3434]

+Pauline Guivarch Ahah oui oui je me doute qu'il doit y mettre le prix pour ce qui est strobo/déco + son live (enfin pas sûr) bien bourrin, mais c'est mon côté "nazi musical" qui ressort, y'a eu bien pire que Skrillex

[@iulianbendrea9010]

+Pauline Guivarch You sure know your thing, sister! Thanks a ton, you're awesome! :)

[@DaiquiriJack]

+Pauline Guivarch First song is the Markus Suckutt remix

[@dazykuri]

EDM = California on Friday night Techno = Germany at 3 AM every night

[@ennexo7186]

True techno is love

[@MARCO-ij7vr]

@@ennexo7186 every genre is love, its music :)

[@n3x477]

U guys are fucking stupid

[@n3x477]

EDM is a genre „electronic dance music“ its a genre for all music thats produced with synthesizer or drum machines

[@MARCO-ij7vr]

@@n3x477 nope, EDM it's Not a genre, is a designation for all the electronic music, house, techno, Dubstep, are genres, edm is a designation for all the genres Basically

[@wiretamer5710]

The whole point of good 'techno' is its rejection of classic melody in favor of overlapping loops that gradually change over a 32 and 64 beat periods. On the surface, the 4/4 beat is king and there is a lot of repetition, but if you listen closely, no two bars of the track are the same. The track is always evolving. This has an intrinsic psychedelic effect on the human brain, and generates a trance like state that alters your perception of time. Techno is not a linear musical experience it is a single place that is ancient and eternal. Each track is like a slightly different door to that place. But every artist working in techno recognizes that their work is only an entrance to the same thing. This is why good techno is essentially anonymous and is a strange way... humble. Electronic dance music has always been saturated with pop elements. It is an industry thing. They are always trying to create dance music that will cross over as a mainstream pop hit. Then there is the wacky stupid, tasteless stuff, because the music industry and nightclubs attract dicks, and no self respecting pop culture takes itself too seriously.

[@yggdrasil9039]

good analysis. It's about a pattern rather than a 'tune'.

[@Zvrra]

Very good explanation!

[@markb3146]

you hit the nail on the head, this series took me back to the ecstasy dens of the late 80's and early 90's....... i remember being tranced out ... now I am an old fart in my 50's but never lost the beat :-)

[@plopidrahtis7023]

techno is the original trance music. my number one electronic dance music.

[@runetorshammare2972]

Perfect explanation man

[@Yntec]

Protip: Techno creates tension by making you feel trapped in a loop, and you wonder if on the next part you'll escape the loop or if the same thing will repeat again. It works because of the release created when something new happens, so songs can be extended with longer repetitions because those will just cause stronger releases. I'm actually not a big fan of pure techno, it could be argued that the Streets of Rage 3 soundtrack was very technoy, but I liked the first two ones better.

[@anonymousdoggo4679]

This is actually a really accurate description. Techno isnt about 8bar loops. Techno is about 7bar, 10bar, 3bar loops, which are very uncommon in any other genres, so techno music progresses just when you least expect it. Thats why techno is bittersweet.

[@TobyBooth]

These two comments taught me more about techno than every video I’ve seen that attempts to differentiate techno from other genres (including this video). Thank you!

[@alejandrogutierrez8551]

I couldn't explain it to myself better than how you you put it, on point

[@maaiham3157]

😲

[@blau6832]

Your analytical description of what the essence of techno is portrays a deep respect for the music. Too bad all other fans have zero respect for, in fact even disrespect, the music, using it only as a tool to accompany their drug trips. Seriously, does anyone seriously wanna tell me these people actually care about the music? Ridiculous.

[@rpcheesman]

I've been listening to techno for about 30 years now - and I'm still not bored of the genre, nor has it gotten stale but constantly reinventing the ideas of rhythm and sound. I grew up on the sounds of Jeff Mills, Juan Atkins, Luke Slater, etc and now I really dig the sounds of Amelie Lens, Rodhad, Paula Temple and so many others. I've seen other genres rise up and fall away, yet I see techno still there, still consistent and still so damn enjoyable... Long live techno.

[@datdude3074]

I hope I'll be the same in 30 years too 👌

[@BuRn_FrN]

i'll Dancing till my very last breath ... started circa '99 all day .. every day anywhere & ... my body speaks more than words

[@SonderSessions]

How does a genre centred around the same 4 on the floor beat "reinvent ideas of rhythm and sound"? Just curious

[@rpcheesman]

@@SonderSessions It's really down to sound design, structure of rhythmic elements, etc. Listening to techno from the early 90's (like I did) onwards and step forwards 5 years each time and there's easily discernible differences in the genre. Evolutions like the more deep, hypnotic techno is a more recent progression of the genre (or sub-genre to be picky). The 4/4 may be the main driver, but a lot of techno relies on odd musical timings for things like polymeter or polyrhythm in things like the percussion/synth/bass elements. How these have been implemented has changed over the years too. (And a techno tune may not even be 4/4 either - ASC with a 3/4 non-stomper for example: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5DUpayKprCLfdU )

[@BLAC_Koncept]

Amiele Lens isn't progress, or innovative, her music is regurgitated hard dance sounds from the late 90s. There is plenty of great if great "techno producers" still pushing boundaries in sounds but it ain't Lens 🤣

[@kilésengati]

Now that we've cleared up what Techno and what EDM is, now we should start explaining people the difference between Techno, House and Trance and what prefixes like "Acid", "Psy", "Dark" and "Hard" indicate.

[@lime9836]

I agree

[@aliaksandrilyushenka5597]

Is there any decent video about it? 🥺

[@Ivan-iq8bu]

If you're reading this and know or have a link please share

[@blumedeslebens]

Even in Psychedelic Trance there are several styles. For example Goa, Hard Trance, Progressive Trance, Dark or Jungle. Or House Music: Chicago, New York/Garage… ACID, Schranz, Minimal… Hardcore, Gabber… And so on and so on…

[@Justin-zq7jp]

Mainstream Psytrance Scene is so lost... we need help first 😂

[@ArtistsCry13]

You are correct. Techno is EDM but EDM isn’t Techno. EDM is an umbrella term, not a genre. Techno is an actual genre.

[@polovtsevmaximovich3340]

Thank You, You arent an ignorant jackass

[@_blackheartemoji_2189]

Saying you like listening to EDM is like saying you like food

[@User-mt5iv]

Techno is a subgenre of EDM

[@twoprofiles]

EDM its a group of electronic genres.

[@cmclbeats]

@@User-mt5iv edm in my opinion is not a genre

[@nitelite78]

Techno has a funny way of being both communal and solitary at the same time. It's tribal - lots of people dancing together, but individualistic and introverted - hypnotic, head down, eyes closed, focus is on the sound and rhythm not what other people are doing in the room. I don't think there is any other music that is quite like this. Also, for me at least, an important part of techno is that it's about hearing music you have never heard before. I know there's hits and classics in Techno as there is in all genres but I am most happy listening to a set where I don't recognise any of the tracks.

[@TP-nx7uf]

So true, this makes it easy to just go to a rave alone and 4 hours larer you still dancing with random strangers, but you´re somewhat comfortable with each other. Another two hours in you are friends with like third of the rave.

[@BuRn_FrN]

Techno is Ephemeral

[@Ma.Mama.is.a.StreetDogg]

Sorry man.....had to change your like count from 69 to 70...such a legendary number.....but....anyways😎✌️

[@Jacksirrom]

She did actually pronounce Berghain correctly, or at least much better than most non-German speakers.

[@jaredakten4939]

Trying to define techno is like trying to define love....impossible to explain but the feeling it gives you is amazing.

[@bluBlaq33]

No it’s pretty cut and dry to me. I like EBM, and techno with a more aggressive sound, and EDM sounds like a commercial mess. Also the crowds are different.

[@mewtwo.150]

TECHNO - for your mind TRANCE - for your heart HOUSE - for your feet EDM - for your toilet

[@asylumDAYS]

Mew Two EDM for your 🚽 hahahaha

[@blaizet7600]

i LOVE THIS. amen

[@Jerimboplaysgames]

Bless

[@andymartin8931]

This is kinda dumb. EDM is an umbrella term that encompasses all 3 of those...

[@TheOfficialVexMeow]

house is for the soul

[@SpaceSloth707]

The whole purpose of techno is to chill, with long repeating beats, melodies and tunes. What I like about techno is that when I'm not listening to it, I can have a certain part of a techno song in my head. Or of course some random beat or tune that would fit right into a Techno song.

[@originellername3062]

i feel like you start to hear stuff that is not even there on really hypnotic techno like planetary assault systems

[@MyGLEEK98]

me: "so you like techno? who's your favourite dj?" person: "david guetta" me: *walks away*

[@asylumDAYS]

Hahahaha nice One......my favorite dj Is Boston 168.

[@SKILIMUSIC]

I asked a friend of mine what music she likes to listen to and she answered: "Dubstep". When I asked her which dubstep DJs she likes she said: "Alan Walker". No joke, this really happened.

[@asylumDAYS]

SKILI really ??? He is so stupid

[@treehann]

Orbital

[@thomaspynchon1868]

Well my i love eric prydz. Specially for his alias cirez D

[@Albanez39]

Darude - Sandstorm is trance, not EDM and don't you dare make fun of it

[@Asyrafazman11]

long live trance!!!

[@aspasricha]

Love the passion!

[@Albanez39]

Notes On Paper there was no EDM in 1999 dear, you're speaking of EDM like it was a genre..it's actually a culture. that responds to the electronic and rave countercultures..

[@daknormn1953]

Darude - Sandstorm is dance with techno elements FOR SURE THIS IS NOT TRANCE

[@twincityshredder3012]

Sandstorm is Trance. In today's day it could be classified as Progressive Trance. But during it's release it was marketed as Trance. Along with Tiesto, Oakenfold, Benassi, Dirty Vegas, etc..

[@ghostindamachine]

Very simple: Techno emulates the sound of the Industrial Age. Like stepping into a factory and hearing the sounds the machines produce. Or the sound of an steam engine (train), etc.

[@arnzidge]

1990's-2000's trance was the best - it was so simple yet effective!

[@ayushp.5395]

i still can't forget those days... that old school trance...

[@Krystianferretti]

Listen to Giuseppe Ottaviani. Thanks to him trance is coming back to life

[@trisky210]

The 2010s are so watred down.

[@Sami-Gantz]

Hell yeah cos it was trance techno not trance house.

[@GODkillingVIRUS1984]

Trance?! When you hear Trance then please leave germany or stay out .... we hate that wannabe Techno bullshit here

[@anselminos5238]

Thumbnail = David Guetta on Drugs at Tomorrowland 😂

[@dhanushiyer1241]

HahA noice one😊

[@Albanez39]

He maybe took drugs in his youth, now he only does money, don't know if he smokes or injects them though..

[@easygroove]

Da* , who ?

[@sabinam.5215]

@@Albanez39 What. Bullshit are you wrote ???? Are you become a " Brainwashed" estupido Astra'l o P ...!!!!! P.s." Youth " ???? What is this ??? I think you have take too Much Drugs ....

[@BGdroopy]

Anselminos FRYING

[@spcsh1936]

to me techno is probably the most fascinating musical phenomenon... perhaps it's the ultimate form of music on this planet... the last original music genre in history

[@Yhoda.PsyTrakked]

Nah psytrance is ;)

[@awesome117unsc]

​@@Yhoda.PsyTrakked😂

[@KJ-nw8ge]

Anyone from the Techno Union would know the difference. (Also my phone auto corrected Techno Union will caps automatically. We have won boys!)

[@gauloises5843]

Wat Tambor agrees

[@43forlife]

Techno can vary quite a lot , from underground to experimental to wonky to hard techno/schranz. It can start from 128bpm all up to 150/160bpm it all depends on your liking. Techno for life

[@duchessofdub]

I'm a veteran raver from the 90s and I thank you Mike Derer for posting the true explaination!! Well Done! from Duchess Of Dub Canada

[@RO-fk1xc]

Not an expert, but I’ve always felt that techno is more structured like disco - in the sense that both have a continuous and constant rhythm and beat (builds up slowly) while EDM emphasizes heavy drops and immediate buildups. Could be wrong, but I’d say that other than asthetic sounds, I think that these differences seem the most important.

[@nicolasblume1046]

Techno also sounds harder

[@Fabi_87]

Isn't EDM just the label all electronic music falls under?

[@waltergsarts]

"EDM" is the new Eurodance, same history back in the 90's.

[@MrKarver1]

LOVE THAT YOU MADE THIS> I get tired of slapping ppl when they refer to all electronic music as techno. THx mang !!!!!!!!!!

[@samikalastaja]

I am really happy that at 3:03 they play acid!

[@mfblowfish4671]

Fisher Sam Fisher I picked up on that as well.

[@PhillipH-san]

EDM is just an umbrella term. Techno falls under that umbrella.

[@ninadecuir745]

Well... actually Techno is an umbrella term as well. It's also a genre by itself. I think the comparison presented here is pretty good. In a nutshell your electronic mainstream junk is not techno. Cheers... I am going to Tresor now :P.

[@LMvdB02]

Nowadays EDM is (incorrectly) used as a name for a specific genre.

[@predjee]

dude what the fuck are you talking about. Before 2010 i never even heard of the term 'EDM' No one ever heard of the term 'EDM' before 2010. And i have been raving since the 90s. There actually was a world and a scene before you where born you now.

[@mariopantoja8259]

Techno is the umbrella term EDM is just a sub genre used for commercial pop electronic music for basic people

[@timeshift9442]

EDM is not a genre at all and stands for Electronic Dance Music (I guess I didn't learn anything to you). Problem is the term is unclear and has no real definition whereas house, electro, techno or hardstyle has. You can't compare EDM to techno because that's like comparing chocolate to an orange. Yeah, you can prefer one and both are eatable but that stops there. Sandstorm is as different from bigroom as house is from techno. The real problem for the average "external" listener is EDM contains "Electronic Music" so they can associate any electronic music genre like techno with it

[@TranceCore3]

It's almost like explaining what Trance is to people who listen to EDM

[@lv6892]

EDM is not techno, but techno is EDM...get your facts right!

[@shoshishoshi127]

Lucaciu Valentin Exactly!! 😂

[@lv6892]

@@hnry9118 So techno is not electronic music? What is it then? Rock music?

[@lv6892]

@@hnry9118 Isn't it the same thing...?

[@lv6892]

@@hnry9118 Techno is great, what are you on about? 😂 If people don't dance on techno at parties than I don't know what they're doing.

[@lv6892]

@@hnry9118 Check out Raito "Hot Temptation" or DJ Ghost "Radar" and tell me that's boring. The last one is on Blasterjaxx's label Maxximize, a big room label. So you'll see what I'm talking about.

[@einfachcorinna1818]

I had goosebumps when the techno played! ❤️

[@ayushp.5395]

a true fan!!! just like me...

[@Grandremone]

SAme here!

[@dalowartes240]

Chris Liebing, Len Faki, Rebekah, Pan Pot, Sam Paganini....

[@SianaGearz]

Dalo Wartes ...were not in this video.

[@dalowartes240]

Siana Gearz​... I was pointing out my favorite dj's... But thanks for the info xD

[@virabhairava8598]

check out Jay Lumen and Kaisserdisco... I'm sure you know of Luigi Madonna.

[@98saschlik]

Check out Pappenheimer or Klaudia Gawlas 😍

[@DO321]

Luigi Madonna ? Alan Fitzpatrick? Adam Beyer? Dusty Kid?

[@MuslimBaconLuvr666]

I prefer Bolivian acid punk trance castration metal house, but to each his own.

[@606808909]

I remember that scene,shit was cash

[@Strowen]

lmaooo XDD haha i get it because music genres are dumb haha lmaooo

[@eticketgirl]

I remember when people called it all "electronica" in the 90's... and I gave up trying to explain. If you know, you know.

[@Thisisahandle701]

A video like this really needs links in the description.

[@SianaGearz]

Excuse me, the example at 3 minutes in is actually not Techno, it's Acid House! Perhaps somewhat of a precursor to Techno.

[@GulagExpress1]

And the track at 4:14 wasn't edm either..

[@SianaGearz]

You know, it's impossible to say exactly, given how vague the term EDM is. It appears to have been coined by the press to decribe the distinctly Brostep-influenced strain of Bigroom Electro House, so people end up calling both European Bigroom and Brostep EDM. And it's impossible to say whether they're wrong, perhaps they are, perhaps they aren't.

[@ProDigit80]

The people making this video don't know themselves! They probably are used to listening to reggae and classical music all day; and then stating a bunch of nonsense on KZbin.

[@ProDigit80]

Classical music is for nerds.

[@-RXB-]

But honestly, if you make a classic techno track and put acid arps in it it becomes "acid house". It's still the exact same style as techno, at least the song he used in the video. Bass heavy, kick focus, repetetive short melody = techno.

[@TheSheamus78]

Im nearly 40 now and used to go to HOUSE OF GOD at kue club when it was on absolutely wicked no phones no drink just pills and water 😄👍

[@isapatel3794]

Djoko - no camera no phones is a wicked song brings back the old clubbing days not these self centered muppetsn

[@schem515]

Wenn ich auf der straße wicked schrei sind se alle in extase

[@leonardpeez5183]

Hector Salamanca WICKED

[@plopidrahtis7023]

techno is about manipulating the sound instead of playing a melody.

[@bitley]

not always kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYvIhWqhdtGneac

[@plopidrahtis7023]

@@bitley i know but in most of the techno tracks there is no melody.

[@plopidrahtis7023]

@@bitley how do you know it's techno ?

[@bitley]

@@plopidrahtis7023 I decide it's techno since I made it ;) hehe

[@plopidrahtis7023]

@@bitley nice chord and bass

[@bellpepper3166]

Also there’s different sounds to Techno. Examples like, Dark Techno, Acid Techno, Detroit, Berlin, and many many more.

[@RargoFC19]

Elijahs Voicemail Industrial, minimal, acid-techno.

[@isapatel3794]

Tech house is the shit

[@mindrockingimages]

This actually helped me alot, for years i was told edm is technically techno. I have always been able to spot edm, but since i didn't grow up with techno, it was always difficult for me to pinpoint it, but after watching this, i don't get how it was hard for me too differentiate the two.

[@cannywf1]

00:00 Radio Slave - The Clone Wars 00:15 Jeff Mills - The Bells 01:07 Fanon Flowers - Mode 08 02:03 DVS1 - Evolve 02:31 Reeko - To The Sun 03:02 Steve Stoll - Dumbo 03:43 The Transhumans - Collapsing Human Relations 04:23 Endlec - Force of Future

[@manuelbolanos1531]

01:54 ????

[@BuRn_FrN]

@@manuelbolanos1531 nobody goes upstairs lol

[@HomerSparkle]

EDM is an umbrella term, created by corporate suits in the Content® manufacturing industry, to describe something they didn't understand but needed to "brand" for marketing purposes. Techno is included in that umbrella term, like it or not. It'd be better to say that Techno is not Liquid Drum 'n Bass, or Trap, or Ambient, or any of the other many types of electronic music, because even giving lip service to the term "EDM" only serves to legitimise it, when in fact it should be abolished. "EDM" is an insult to every _actual_ genre of electronic music,. not just Techno.

[@jahabalachm9011]

love Techno, Water and Extasy

[@mexisnake]

the holy trinity

[@aseoneseco1440]

Jahaba lachm dude nothing like dropping a couple double stacks and play with some poi or glowsticking for hours.

[@fantomasss21]

fuck water!!!

[@Supatrader]

Love, Techno, Water and Extasy

[@V-u-l-p]

Dont forget the chewing gum ._.

[@flare242]

Wow, didn't know techno needed a defense lawyer...

[@RargoFC19]

DEFENCE

[@Bafftubz10]

@@RargoFC19 they ain't british.

[@Randomizer92mx]

156 americans who don't know what techno is liked your comment

[@kahea2018]

😂

[@friendcoral-g1g]

If Wikipedia defines EDM has any kind of electronic music whose purpose is to make you dance, it doesn't mean that that's what happens in the real world. Just look at the reality. In recent years EDM has detached greatly from that definition because of the spread in the US of what back in Europe we used to call the commercial side of electro, progressive and deep house, and dubstep (and more recently trap and bass music). People started to like all those genres of music, and djs began mixing them in the same set, calling the music they would play EDM simply because all those tracks are electronic dance music. However, none of those djs would have said they play EDM back in the early 2000s, and, more importantly, they would never play techno in their sets today. Hence, techno is not EDM nowadays. Simply because EDM doesn't mean anymore any kind of electronic dance music, but I would say it's more a specific kind of electronic music where the tracks' bpm ranges from 124ish bpm (deep house like Major Lazer) to 140 bpm (dubstep like Marshmello), where there is a intense use of catchy melody and vocals, and where drums and bass aren't particularly sophisticated nor researched. While techno tracks have the same range of bpm, the bpm in a techno set would hardly be changed, conversely from what happens constantly in EDM sets. I'll stop here regarding the musical differences between the two genres, because they're obvious in the video. Anyways, the two kinds of music do not overlap, no matter how you name them: they differ in their nature (sounds, design, production) and in their use (purpose, crowd, locations). However, I'm sure these definitions won't hold in a few years from now. I see very likely that the commercial sides of drum n bass and techno will find a much larger crowd (as it has been happening for the last 10 years), and they will be included in EDM sets at some point.

[@neyvtm9088]

Mario Mari wtf are u writing, I stopped reading after words about marshmello producing dubstep

[@RealMephres]

@@neyvtm9088 i really hope you are kidding

[@musicISlyf1]

I stopped reading after he said Major Lazer does deep house. And techno doesn't just stay in a close bpm range. They can very well go to 138bpm plus. And go low 100's.

[@realDJCrazyAaron]

i get the point of the video. people kept calling all EDM "techno" for a while lol... you can still call techno "EDM" and not be wrong since the term EDM just means electronic music, which is an umbrella term for anything electronic sounding... but most people wouldn't use the term EDM that way, they would probably use it for the "danceable" electronic music you would hear in clubs or those "raves" (even though those of us who have been in the electronic music scene for a long time would NOT call those raves since they are mostly mainstream EDM artists, and they are events you can buy tickets to and are well known to the public. real raves, don't really go on much anymore as far as i know, they feature unknown underground artists and are not announced more than a few days in advance and used to get shut down by police raids a lot)

[@saviorself1164]

Thank you! I hate to give away my age but, a couple years ago, my 23 year old daughter told me she went to a rave. After looking into it, I found out that it was just an afterparty for Ultra. The raves I went to back in the day would have flyers that would give you directions to a place and then you would sometimes have to get directions at that place to another place and that is where the party would be. Sometimes, the party would just be a few stacks of speakers, a couple lights and a nitrous tank but, those were the best ones. Those are the ones that would last all night. When they got too big, that's when they got busted

[@fredEVOIX]

I watched this again and you know what seems obvious to me, real techno is hypnotic and your brain immediately syncs with it while EDM is like an annoying alarm clock "hey listen to me !!!"

[@Yhoda.PsyTrakked]

EDM is not a genre, that was big room and dub step you were listening too, EDM stands for electronic dance music, ie music using computers and synths NOT guitar and drums, and yes of course there are drums in EDM but not in a band like setup

[@prodetailprodetail9966]

People don’t know... they just think... techno is specific and only one :) Love it

[@scramblesthedeathdealer]

The Prodigy got me into electronic music in general 20 years ago. Most people at that time considered it Techno, or anything else with synths, drum machines, or DJing. I don't understand why there needs to be so many strict subgenres... I just like good electronic music, I don't care what want to label it.

[@martinreid2352]

Scrambles the Death Dealer To be fair, a lot of the genres we talk about now have come about in those 20 years since you joined on, and that’s simply because there are so many more different kinds of electronic music out there now, with a hundred times more producers, and we need names for these things so we can talk about them all! But also, many of those developments are not terribly worth your time. A lot of the stuff I listen to (outside of hard dance; and even then...), even though I’ve only been in the scene for half your time, are genres from around 20 years ago as well. What do you think?

[@NextSound170]

The way people poke fun at these genres make me laugh. Missed the boat on it all imo. Techno is the truth

[@Jayrehm]

Some people love techno, other ones love EDM, this is life and music is diversity and freedom. Let people listen what they want to listen to. I do not love Big Room House at all or Trap music, but it's not really interesting to compare genres like that...

[@dc4447]

you guys are lazy 1:07 fanon flowers mode 08 2:04 dvs1 evolve 2:40 reeko to the sun 3:02 steve stoll dumbo 3:44 transhumans collapsing human relations 4:24 endlec force of future

[@Brandonbraun]

this should be the top comment

[@dreamlandsociety5842]

shit ;D thank you man!

[@anthonyhiggins6689]

What a chief!

[@ivkowho]

you forgot 1st track at the begining of video :) its Radio slave - the clone wars :)

[@nibbulist]

Thank you sir!

[@EvilQueen8]

I LOVE this video, hilarious! Such s a good explanations and examples. Thanks man! Now this will be my answer whenever someone asks me about Techno and Berghain :)

[@jh6224]

Techno is like a sculpture which changes slowly; EDM remains yoked to traditional song structure with its peaks and troughs. Techno doesn’t really establish strong expectations in the listener. It doesn’t signpost it’s harmonic/rhythmic development so much as point you BACK at these developments when they have already been made without you being able to clearly hear it. Techno disassembles the attention (like lots of classical music) whereas EDM focuses it. Techno subverts the ego; EDM asserts it. Techno is anarchic and subversive; EDM valorises the individual, the consumer. Techno is philosophy; EDM is sophistry.

[@timmytimothy7033]

This video as a whole is so cringy lol

[@fluffigverbimmelt]

Muh secret club, muh true culture. And I even fully agree on the basics

[@hamisa_mahimbo]

LOL

[@angelhernandez2450]

Edm is my religion. This.makes.me cringe.

[@ahmedhathoutt]

“I heart techno” i cringed so hard at this

[@user-pl5rr4ij4v]

believe me, this you-tuber is drugged

[@gctechs]

Looks like the term EDM has changed its meaning. Last time I checked EDM meant just "electronic dance music", a blanket term covering all danceable genres of electronic music, including house, techno, trance, drum&bass, breakbeat, hardcore and so on (as opposed to synthesiser electronic music or avantgarde). Now I guess it means just some sub- sub-genre of house. People do like to complicate things needlessly.

[@rick_terscale1111]

It hasnt changed its meaning its just that it has also became a sub genre and is somewhat what you would call Big Room: EDM is a sub genre of EDM (Electronic Dance Music) EDM is that big commercial sound you hear a lot these days. Its a mash of various styles of dance music, incl. Trance, House, Pop Dance, Electro, Progressive, Hardstyle EDM the sub genre doesnt stand for anything as far as most people know.

[@killmeister2271]

Electronic Dance Music Techno is a subgenre of EDM

[@jordancardenas7564]

Exactly and the sub genres go by many names, house music, deep house, tech house, progressive house, disco, and so forth future bass, bass house, and so on and so on but rookies that have no knowledge define anything as EDM and its giving it a bad rep, cause niggas like steve aokie and chainsmokers are smearing a good genre and sending it downhill as embarrassment

[@n0xx295]

False: EDM stands for "Egregious Drops for Monkeys", the monkeys being each and every EDM fan. Techno is sophisticated music for sophisticated people. EDM is for scum. And to say Techno is a sub-genre of EDM makes the same amount of sense as saying Jazz is a sub-genre off Metal because they both are genres of drum-driven styles of music.

[@happyfroggy3262]

@@jordancardenas7564 so true..

[@crAZNimal]

EDM is a new term, so i wouldn't say techno is a subgenre of EDM , its like saying grappling or kickboxing is a branch of MMA.. MMA is also a new term. .. i dont know how old you are but the term EDM never existed when i was going to raves in the 90s and 2000s, you go to underground rave party there's separate rooms for house,techno,trance .. you name it... The music industry just trying to put all these into one category as "EDM" but it's all different in their own way

[@TorstenSommer-c3p]

Jeff Mills is Techno. Kenny Larkin is Techno. The Advent is Techno. Mad Mike Banks is Techno. Steve Stoll is Techno. Rob Acid is Techno. Hardfloor from germany are Techno. The sound of Detroit is Techno. The sound of Berlin like TRESOR, BERGHAIN, etc. are Techno. Skrillex and musicians like him are commercial pop dance or just EDM.

[@sickparrot3]

Inspired to go back and listen to some old Dave Clarke essential mixes. The baron of Techno

[@baronpavalla]

Clarke and Luke Slater ftw

[@petar1008]

Techno is for humans, EDM is for lizards.

[@Yaujta]

VoB end 🔚

[@dominikperkovic3058]

Then i guess lizards > humans

[@ichhabvielswag]

lizard > s u c c erberg

[@Yaujta]

DS u believe dat shit lizard people LuL

[@dominikperkovic3058]

Predman didnt get your point can you say it again ?

[@spacemanjupiter]

I grew up through the 90's listening to house and techno. I still have a lot of old techno and house cd's that are over 20 years old. To be honest, the 'techno' that I heard in this video is not techno to me. It's something else. It's difficult to categorize this shit now days. It was a lot more clear back then, the differences. It's all 'electronic music', obviously, but it's not always clear that something is purely Trance, purely this or that now. It gets frustrating, and it's obvious from all the comments I see that not very many people actually know or agree with each other, which supports the fact that there are so many electronic music genres and sub genres now that it's inevitable that it will get lumped into an super genre when it should be in some sub genre. When it comes down to it, who fucking cares anymore? I don't even know what to call some of this shit now days. All I know is that It's electronic music, and some of it sucks, some of it is GREAT. I think Trance is probably the easiest to pick out now days because of how it makes you feel. There's a reason why it's called Trance. I'm still trying to figure the rest out.

[@EuroNetta]

yes this is not techno! check real techno : Raw Power Organisation - 1991 And I Just Begun

[@JuniorBlitz]

spacemanjupiter Yeah. The examples used in this video aren't really the proper stuff, they are actually tech house and minimal tracks. I can also agree with Total Recall this time.

[@arcayne7782]

The stuff in this video is actually real techno. The genre has evolved a lot since the 90's, as has any genre. Electronic music production has been popular ever since the 90's, and artists started creating more and more cocktails of different genres to innovate, to stay ahead of the competition. So the lines between genres naturally become less visible. Back in the 90's it was still new and exiting, as time goes on it becomes harder and harder to retain that freshness to the genre. The philosophy of techno music has always been to create a continuous vibe with a strong focus on heavy drum patterns to keep people dancing for hours, even days on end. That philosophy is still there, and the vibes at most techno raves are still incredible. You have to experience a modern rave to really understand this. I meet many veteran ravers on raves nowadays who all say the same thing, the rave has never died. The face has changed, but the heart has not. It's the nostalgia that makes many veteran ravers feel disconnected with modern techno. Many veteran ravers miss their young wild years more than they miss the techno from back then. Hearing the music from back then brings them back, the modern techno doesn't. Heres a proper modern techno set with a strong touch of the old school: /watch?v=Fn7K9MCRJT0

[@ebenkeel]

spacemanjupiter Indeed, from 1989 I recall all this as just being called rave music (in the UK) as opposed to mainstream top 10 with a few acceptable dance tunes thrown in for the masses. You were either into it or you hated it, no in-between because it wasn't just music, it was a lifestyle.

[@marcmitnachnamen1946]

YEAAHH...you're my man. To me, that's also real Techno...

[@Solo-8676]

Genres in chronological order (quite confident about these, but I might have some of the more nuanced house genres wrong) 0:00 Tech house 0:16 (Jazz-ish?) techno in background 1:07 Techno 1:20 Pretty standard house, with some hints towards moombahton 1:52 Techno 1:55 Tech house? 2:04 Techno 2:24 Bigroom, pretty low effort sound design 2:32 Techno, with nice noise percs on wide 2:52 Bigroom again, but a better example 3:03 some kind of idm-esque techno, the melody is nonexistent 3:33 Sandstorm, good old trance, it's evident in the drums and the chords 3:44 Back to techno, with a very detuned lead 4:14 Brostep, but one of the best songs of dubstep in the early 2010s and I cannot bear seeing it discredited. 4:24 Indeed back to techno 4:47 Inconclusive, just try explaining the differences in words - techno is built on simplicity, rhythm and ambience, while pretty much all other EDM subgenres are built on melodies and bass

[@busch028]

If it sounds like your washing machine broke, then it's good techno. :-)

[@robinljungberg6549]

If that's what it sounds like to you, then you probably don't listen to techno.

[@kuleczkaxD]

If it does it’s more like dubstep

[@degnartsE]

HAHAHHAAHAAH LMAO

[@jumbotacopanda]

I'm a metal head and this is my first experience with techno, and not my thing. but all things aside I have respect for you die hard techno fans because I thought metal heads were the only ones that struggle with miss labeling and such

[@Fabi_87]

Yeah I respect people who are really passionate about their music of any kind. But too much gatekeeping and snobbery which Techno has can be really annoying as aTechno fan especially when artists try anything new.

[@sergeyolson7815]

Yes! I'm so glad you brought this up! Its so infuriating to hear this EDM garbage the greatest bandwagon of all in music. Enough of overrated festivals, time to get back to the dark underground roots. Dont be holding up cameras the whole entire time, its about movement and dancing, yes dancing. Crazy concept to this modern generation. Awesome video by the way of techno clubs and what goes on inside! I enjoy Techno, Minimal, Tech-House and Tech-Trance.

[@lukew1124]

Being a drum n bass boy even I can tell the difference between techno and EDM. I like a bit of techno sometimes my first experience of techno was in 2002 at an illeagal rave were techno was being played most of the weekend.

[@TheRealPDizzle]

I've been a Junglist soldier, fighting to keep the jungle alive, for a long, long time. But even so I still need to go experience Techno and Progressive House mixes to scratch a certain itch that Jungle can't.

[@ThomasClewsArt]

I think it's important to note there's a loooooooot of different styles, shades and variations of techno.

[@benpowell5682]

Lots and lots of people don't seem to realise that, sadly.

[@WebMint_]

My favourite example that's used for "real techno" would be at 3:02. It's also the most techno sounding track in this video.

[@vladatella7833]

What club or festival is that ?

[@MotownShaker]

For those wondering, the 'Herrensauna' edition of Boiler Room is a great example of how a Techno club is in Berlin every weekend

[@starstream6995]

This video is really good. The examples help a lot with understanding it. If it wasn’t for you I would’ve been toast. I got a presentation tomorrow

[@derstrubinator]

Tell the people that the difference is not just in the music, its at the people too. Techno People are open minded and without any prejudices, you find a lot of new friends and everybody is helpful. Its like that hippy thing back in the 60s. EDM is just a Kirmes-Version of all that.

[@rraarpinaa2434]

+Sound n Art edm is just the people who start listen david ghetta and all of that trash of ''djs''

[@regenbogenleberwurst221]

What about metal?

[@nhamutole]

Only a raver will understand your comment mate.

[@DarkenedX08]

Some of the songs non-listeners think are techno are actually house, electro house and/or trance. (EDIT) This comment definitely could've originally been worded better. Also, big room, while it isn't a genre in and of itself, it's a subgenre of electro house.

[@WebMint_]

DarkenedX08 - Tiffany The techno examples in this video aren't exactly techno. Sorry!

[@WebMint_]

Ricardo Pineda It's minimal techno. Not techno. Hehe

[@asylumDAYS]

They Are kids, they dont know the good things

[@asylumDAYS]

WebMint Droplex Is minimal Techno...the other thing you said Is minimal only bro. Minimal Techno Is when you have the clip bases of minimal and the bass and beat of Techno.

[@j.d.buchanan4897]

"Big room" is not a genre either

[@JackTheDeergal]

I must say, I really enjoy Japanese techno, it has a decent bit of variation. Music artists such as ken ishii and 7th gate are just plain awesome (and slightly influenced by Detroit techno)

[@luchsmusik]

Takaaki Itoh!

[@chipilin-]

Techno is a Sub Genre of EDM. I don’t understand why people get so mad

[@Doslle]

*underground vs commercial

[@DiscoFrisc0]

Good versus Bad ;)

[@WebMint_]

Doslle. Well, commercial for the win.

[@artofdesign1351]

WebMint "commercial for the win" hahahah poor guy

[@SPAZZOID100]

WebMint u insane??

[@dereenaldoambun9158]

WebMint Euuuuu......you're taste of music is disgusting!! Your opinion is shit! Hahahhaa but I listen to both commercial & underground so my taste is shitter than yours!

[@matsewunderlich]

Techno = Real Thing

[@ivarrbeinlausi6988]

@Unaesthetic Boi your happiness

[@billminyard2846]

Thank you. You're welcome. I love it when a clan comes together.

[@Shrinkk]

Very nice techno picks! :) ID last one please!

[@ayran2000mg.]

+Shrinkk Endlec - Force of Future

[@Shrinkk]

+Peter F. Thanks :)

[@iniuram8231]

short answer: techno is a spacey dark form of house and electro

[@ordinarypablo]

You are the type of person why I avoid talking to people on parties

[@kepler6500]

Hahaha finaly someone

[@boscomarino1732]

You are the kind of person that can’t difference between a dog and a bear

[@kepler6500]

@@boscomarino1732 lol what

[@speakersr-lyefaudio6830]

Pablo Onzaga your the type of person that would call death metal, rock and roll.

[@itskarlasway5594]

Agree

[@AlteSchule74]

"EDM is not a Real Thing“ (Beardyman somewhere in Seattle)

[@TRASHoftheTITANS]

0:35 her pronunciation was spot on. The "ai" cluster is pronounced "aye" in German, as in "high" or "cry". Saying "Berg-hayn" is incorrect.

[@alexeyklepikov2770]

This video lowkey changed my life, I used to be a martin garrix fanboy, i think i even left a hate comment here a few years back. But now im reformed.

[@steveworrell]

The (Techno) tunes in this vid...5 Star!

[@Tastenkrueppel]

"THIS IS TECHNO" *plays House* Seems legit.

[@anselminos5238]

Yes yes 😂

[@gelatinocyte6270]

Are you sure that's called House? Time stamp, please?

[@bad610tv]

3:16

[@gelatinocyte6270]

Well at least it wasn't *Big Room* House

[@zex450]

3:16 is actually Tech House with influences of Acid House.

[@unboxdoc9125]

Like the video but as a Berliner I can tell you: Claire is kinda right here. Berghain opens Saturday 11:59 and goes till Monday morning/midday.... You cannot usually come Friday and stay till Monday cause Friday is only panorama bar

[@originellername3062]

can confirm that

[@JUSAGUYNKY]

Backstreet in Atlanta used to be open 24/7!! We would drive down from Louisville all the time.. on a Saturday night I remember it would die down around 2.. BUT around 4-5am PACKED AGAIN!! KRAZY but GOOD/FUN TIMES‼️‼️‼️

[@pipoton1994]

jeff mills - the bells

[@damianevans8540]

Chicago = House, manchester = acid house, Detroit = techno. It's all the same really. A tune is a tune

[@cykablyatman9677]

@Remco Roodackers shut up, inbred

[@cykablyatman9677]

@Remco Roodackers there are 50% chance your parents are cousins and 50% chance they're siblings

[@cvelardeproductions]

Darude is all genres

[@All3me1]

Christopher Velarde darude Sandstorm is all music

[@nuttynoah5342]

Truly enlightening,you are a man with infinite wisdom.

[@timerimgrinder7257]

Techno drives people crazy the music alone is a drug.

[@la-ia1404]

Lets talk about progressive trance...

[@DJflyingtaco]

Dalton C ooh good one

[@saiwon1137]

it's wonderful

[@Demolorde]

Its cool

[@Soundwave32791]

Tina Einstin What about Progrssive Trance?

[@mr.sweaty7862]

It's shit. Psytrance is the way. Prog is for kids

[@sika4120]

Those EDM lovers will eventually evolve and become a part of our Techno family. Just give dem time!

[@tobiCS_]

We dont want them.

[@mrbuffwoopmusic8788]

We'd rather not so fuck off.

[@Multi-Waves_Music]

Is me! But seriously I started with NCS, then W&W, Martin garrix, deadmau5, then finally this year got into some Stephan bodzin and now a buddy of mine (FEYLN) has gotten me into techno. Fun journey, hate these gatekeepers in the comments

[@elitedima9672]

Techno belongs to EDM you clueless fucktards. EDM is not genre, it is umbrella term for all electronic music genres. Dubstep, House, trance, Drum&Bass, Drumstep, Hardstyle, Future Bass and Trap, they all can be called EDM in general. So get your facts correct, smartass.

[@killzxo21]

I like how my friends always say I’m weird for liking house, progressive house, vocal trance/ trance, dirty house, psychedelic trance, techno, etc. and I’m honestly glad I don’t hear it in their cars or house or for most in other peoples houses in general since they’d just kill that music and over play it like everyone does w music these days! Only real fans of good electronic music should stay in a small community and let these kids today think edm is the only electronic music that exists

[@amirsharar8547]

All of these "techno" picks sound more Tribal than Techno. Then again I listened to Techno in the early 90s and definitions change all of the time. But back in the 90s, the stuff you posted would be called Tribal.

[@technoedm5890]

yes this is not techno!! The Immortals - Techno Syndrome THIS IS TECHNO!

[@amirsharar8547]

Yeah back in the day that would've been considered techno, but I was thinking more of the lines of anything from Le Petit Prince Records, which is a bit more minimalistic than that but also pretty driving as far as rhythm goes without sounding too tribal.

[@paulwalker4303]

Amir Sharar old twat

[@paulwalker4303]

Amir Sharar tit

[@ThatGreatGuyJesus]

Tommorowland Alex Thats not techno, "acid ted vs the pranksters - respec" THATS TECHNO!!! Seriously though, let people listen to what they want, its all preference.... Somebody else can always be elitist about what they consider to be *true* techno (or any genre)

[@thejason51873]

Love the party(s) you showed during the Techno example - that's what a real party is about.

[@RD-ni7qe]

Dear Americans, the actual genre of TECHNO was around way before you came up with the douchy term of 'EDM'...

[@chanceneck8072]

Oh God NO!!! When I first read that "Good Techno Music" I was like "huh??? Seems kinda accurate! Ellen really gets it?" but then what played afterwards was the music that they ACTUALLY showcased??? HOLY MOTHER OF CHRIST, CAN YOU PLEASE SWITCH TOPICS, YOU GAY OLD BITCHES??....

[@RargoFC19]

The irony being that it was a few American pioneers in Detroit that created techno in the first place.

[@RargoFC19]

Atkins,Saunderson&May.

[@RD-ni7qe]

Imagine walking around calling every form of fucking dance music "EDM". Please.

[@kgee3]

@@RD-ni7qe No one does this. The only people who bitch about this is techno fans.

[@lekso31]

Can someone tell me what club that is ? The techno club looks so cool

[@isabelquiroga1287]

EDM: electronic dance music. The umbrella term for all music made electronically like: techno, house, trance, etc. So technically techno is edm, but edm is not techno. If u like techno then u like some kind of edm music. Haters just hate the word edm tho.

[@GordonGekkoo]

incorrect. EDM is a term that became associated with big room commercialized house music. The umbrella term is electronic music

[@mr.mustard8803]

@@GordonGekkoo wrong bigroom is electronic music. It is also edm. Edm and electronic music mean the same thing

[@GordonGekkoo]

@@mr.mustard8803 the umbrella term used for electronic dance music was EM (electronic music). The term EDM was never used before 2010. I consider EDM as a subgenre that became associated with big room house music and the umbrella term still to be EM, as its often still most referred to by industry professionals.

[@ChrisMichael]

Oh man, thank you, thank you, thank you for this. Used to live in Berlin during the HEIGHT of minimal.

[@vrooolijk]

I love hardcore gabber music and techno music

[@GalaxyDeem]

Ik denk dat jij een Nederlander bent. 😂

[@nicy4655]

Good old fashioned techno snobbery still going strong, brilliant. Keep on loving the beats, whatever your aural poison is.

[@Yhoda.PsyTrakked]

it not snobery its just correcting the facts, i make psytrance and i HATE it when people call it techno and its the same foe DnB artists NOT all EDM is techno dude

[@gggf4766]

​@@Yhoda.PsyTrakkedthey think when got some drum pop sound its techno which is dumb

[@kydatyvegrybatokeanvisoko2420]

Y'know when I was little I thought it was techno I liked No disrespect to y'all, you do you, but. Idk I prefer things with tunes you can follow. Like Sandstorm, as an example that was used here. I hum along to music so often that I just don't get songs that have no tune. That's also why I don't like most rap as well as a lot of metal. I know there are exceptions in every genre but I generally stick to things I love In all honesty listening to this kind of music for an entire weekend is beyond me

[@hightreason]

Me and some mates visited toronto recently (from the uk) and found a techno rave and went to it. It was absolutely incredible, proper gritty venue, less than 100 people, good hard techno. The people from canada that came with us left early cause they were expecting "Rave" EDM music.