M4 Max vs Ultra 9 285k vs Ryzen 9900x - PROOF that This Laptop is INSANE!

[@theTechNotice]

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[@patriknordberg1259]

Your discount code on iVanky didn't work. Just want to let you know.

[@raminpro9765]

compair 4000$ apple with 2000$ 9900x amd is fair? if you fair compair with 4000$ amd threadripper

[@KevPez-IS]

Thanks for the video team! I’m a mailman here for United States Postal Service. I can work on a video before clocking into work, and during some breaks in my day. To have desktop quality in a laptop, game changing for me.

[@theTechNotice]

There we go! :)

[@sortof3337]

Subbed. I have tremendous respect for people with creative passion who have been marginalized by capitalism.

[@KevPez-IS]

@ thanks man, USPS pays the bill. The heart has bigger ambitions, content is slow for me right , but I’m doing it as I can

[@dreamworldtony]

Subscribed ✅ 💯

[@raminpro9765]

compair 4000$ apple with 2000$ 9900x amd is fair? if you fair compare with 4000$ amd threadripper,then apple will explode,rip

[@Rice_Cake_]

that's crazy, almost unbelievable. Why hasn't AMD/Intel figured out how to keep up after M chips have been out for a few years now? As a creator, this is the first time I've considered a Mac in over 12yrs.

[@Jagc0316]

It's arm based CPU, like a phone/tablet with all the storage/memory/GPU built in. It works well, really well, but comes at a price, money, and the issue with upgradeability. PCs have traditionally been cisc based x86 and configurable. Mac silicone computers are good if the apps are available. Windows is the most successful and widely used OS ever, doesn't mean it's the best, but for money, performance and availability it is ahead. Will MacOS ever beat it? Depends if people want to dig deep into their pockets.

[@slojanko]

Atleast it's cheaper and has Windows. I can't stand MacOS and the insane prices.

[@mika2666]

There’s an AMD competitor (strix halo) coming out next year, with a bigger integrated GPU and 16 zen 5 cores (like the 9950x)

[@Jagc0316]

@@Rice_Cake_ competition is good news; however, I don't know any 'professionals' that need this much power from a laptop. Real 'professionals' used larger screens, larger keyboards, a mouse and other devices. It seems the internet is full of 'professionals' in the sense of content creators and KZbinrs. These kind of devices would suit them as they do work wherever they can.

[@liquidmark5081]

@@Jagc0316x86 is CISC. ARM is RISC

[@kalef1234]

Apple Silicon in general is very impressive. So much you can do on battery. I have a 7950X 3080 12G system for gaming, but I just bought a M3 Max 16C with 64GB memory on ebay for my photo editing and video editing.

[@slojanko]

Atleast it's cheaper and has Windows. I can't stand MacOS and the insane prices.

[@bruhbybruh752]

@@slojanko u can't stand that high prices cuz u can't afford these devices poor one

[@ilaion11]

@@bruhbybruh752 still, the MacOS is awful, would never get into Mac for that reason. I would like a Microsoft hack like we have Hackintosh, though!

[@Beezzzzy_]

I love people are realizing how good Apple silicon Macs are. M4 is the biggest jump since M1 from Intel. I have an M2 Max MBP and probably won’t upgrade for another 3-4 generations. The power efficiency is the best aspect of them. I can edit on a cross country plane ride in Photoshop or Lightroom and not worry about battery life.

[@Drumaier]

I'm up to date when it comes to windows pc hardware performance, and I thought laptops, of any kind, couldn't get anywhere near high end desktops. So watching this video was a surreal experience and I can only think about "where is the catch?". A laptop as good or better than a 9900x and 3080? incredible.

[@DeepteshLovesTECH]

Catch : 4000 pound minimum with 1TB ssd.

[@RunForPeace-hk1cu]

@@DeepteshLovesTECH If you have to worry about the price, chance are, you aren't making money off your laptop. People who need that kinda of power on the go are usually people who make their living off with their laptop.

[@DeepteshLovesTECH]

@@RunForPeace-hk1cu Make sense. For the same price, you can get both 4070Ti PC (2000 usd) and a 4080M (2200 usd) laptop.

[@kaptnwelpe5322]

@@RunForPeace-hk1cu Those who are making money off their workstation or servers - would those switch to Apple? Which doesn't even offer anything in those classes...

[@JojoJoget]

@@kaptnwelpe5322well workhorses get abused and components need to be replaced so probably not

[@MoreLentrail]

watching on my m3 max macbook pro

[@wisdomyaw03]

Really impressive! One thing you must know about the Premier Pro Puget benchmark is that it uses the old Intel version on the Mac, which has to be translated through Rosseta 2, hence the slower performance. Using Davinci Resolve Puget benchmark truly exhibits the M4 Max’s performance.

[@theTechNotice]

I don't think you're right in there! I believe it uses the native version for MAC?!

[@wisdomyaw03]

@@theTechNoticeNo! It doesn’t. Premier Pro still uses the Intel versions for the Puget benchmark. This is something that a lot of people who use it for testing know about. Maybe you can do a little research about it, or even ask some of your KZbin creator friends. Cheers 🎉

[@SamHocking]

I've seen DR tests where M4 Pro is slower than an M1 Max. It all depends on what test

[@landscape1570]

@@theTechNoticeI confirm too that it uses the older emulated version of Premiere Pro, so maybe that’s why you see a big difference compared to DaVinci Resolve

[@milosmartplug]

if power draw and performance scaled linearly imagine what M4 max could do at 230 watts

[@ambatublow]

Higher power consumption doesn't always mean better berformance

[@lukabosnjak3829]

Let's wait for the M4 Ultra or potential Extreme for that

[@liquidmark5081]

There are diminishing returns.

[@jbrashfx]

This is the most comprehensive video I've seen benchmarking the M4 Max - as a 3D Professional, thank you very much for sharing :)

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

M4 has entered the chat

[@MichaelMarshall53]

As a 3D professional this is the first time Apple has caught my attention. Their CPUs are great but I need GPU power and Apple seems to have caught up for the most part.

[@kamil_hassan]

Wait for the Mac studio with m4 max or ultra chip .

[@bugatti7510]

11:28, Literally put my arms in the air and said: "Apple welcome back to the competition!"

[@JacobGagoOfficial]

Thank you for posting this this week

[@JayzBeerz]

Watching on my M4 Mac mini. :)

[@AlyxSharkBite-2000]

So it looks like the M4 Max GPU is about the same as a 4070 (Desktop) which is amazing and the M4 Ultra should be in a range of the 790XTX & 4090 but an the cpu will be insane.

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

it consumes less than a 10th the power

[@alpenfoxvideo7255]

@@JohnSmith-pn2vlI don’t really care about the power, that equates to 10$ a year. If I could have an M4 clocked at 400W to have double the performance of the one at 50w I would get it

[@joseteixeira5900]

M4 Ultra in Mac Studio is listening this conversation😁…hold my 🍺

[@vampritt]

its an absolute beast... until you drop it and the apple genius say it cant be repaired and you need to buy another one. so true

[@haploguy]

don't drop it, apple care. skill issue

[@GoldPunch]

Watching on this with my M1 Max 16'' MBP. And I started to jealous new max chips. 😌

[@asafblasbergvideographer]

M4 Ultra will be amazing.

[@asafblasbergvideographer]

Basically M4 Max GPU performance using Resolve is equivalent to RTX 4070 Ti from my internal testing. The M2 Ultra does have better GPU performance.

[@lukabosnjak3829]

@@asafblasbergvideographer Exactly, and now imagine an M4 extreme (4 x M4 max) as a... one more thing announcement, literally would have potential to beat the rtx 5090 in its game

[@asafblasbergvideographer]

@@lukabosnjak3829 Can't wait! :)

[@kwameryan]

As a music professional working with orchestral mockups I can really benefit from M4 Pro level power on the go, but apart from CPU power and silent operation, orchestral music production also need lots and lots of RAM, and so it's a pity that Apple forces people like who need 64 GB and more to upgrade to the Max chip which is overkill in itself. You can't get one without the other so that only leaves us travellings music pros with the max chip. Love your videos BTW.

[@steffmkd]

Can you test the M4 and M4 Pro and add them in those charts? I thinks thats going to be really interesting especially for the $600 M4 Mac Mini

[@perilouspursuits692]

Watching on my new M4 Max MBP with 128GB memory and 8TB storage with nano-display coating. Coming from a 2019 16" Intel MBP, this thing is nuts

[@DeepteshLovesTECH]

For context: The old M2 Pro has a total die size of 289mm2, the 7950X released in the same year has a die size which is half of the M2 Pro and performed 2x as much. I don't think PC chip makers will ever make "APUs" like Apple - simply because they don't need to and it also doesn't make sense "economically". AMD got clobbered by PC users when they released a 330 usd 8700G 🤣 Now image if any PC user will purchase a 1000 usd chip, if AMD even dared to make an APU like that. Apple is able to do this because of the market they cater to, the end product and services they sell. The M4 Max probably has a die size of 500mm2+

[@PKperformanceEU]

What are you yapping about x86fanboy. AMD is nowhere close to Apple, imagine calling out a SoC vs standalone CPU in terms of size🤡🤡 Accept the truth apple and Aarch64 is better And move on. Strix point halo is coming but it will be crushed the day its released. M4max >9950X>285K M4max >150+w 4080m SPEC2017 and SPEC hpc2021 back up my claims Both the gold standard benchmark suites!

[@teapouter6109]

@@PKperformanceEU What an Apple sheep. "Muh Apple GPU performance hurr durr" 4090 goes vrooooooom I like how this video doesn't even use the 7950X because we all know that Apple can't compete with that, let alone Threadripper or Threadripper pro "That's not fair, muh pricing" Complaining about prices when you defend Apple? You sure about that? Try it

[@DeepteshLovesTECH]

@@PKperformanceEU Strix Point Halo won't make any difference. AMD has the worst software pipeline for application support. Apart from CPU performance, they have nothing else. You are not considering that 9950x+4090 (released more than two years ago) together will crush an M4 Max for half the cost and leave you with enough money to purchase a top of the line RTX 4070 laptop (for casual gaming and work). I am not even going to get into ARM vs x86 comparison - PCs are not just for premiere pro and photo editing.

[@PKperformanceEU]

@@DeepteshLovesTECH m4 max wins in compile, scientific HPC computing, math physics name it. There s notin u will do about it Apple wins

[@PKperformanceEU]

@ cope harder windows x86 sheep Mac wins Aarch64 wins

[@itiswhatitis-yes]

I would love to have the portability of this absolute beast!!!

[@robbe4711]

Apple smokes the competition. They had the guts changing the CPU two times in the history of the company and design their own. This is why intel and amd are producing more heat than innovation.

[@DeepteshLovesTECH]

10:56 CUDA or Optix?

[@TruckMechaAddicted]

I do 3D rendering and for this Nvidia is still the best but I'm really impressed by this M4 Max. What's blocking me are still the Apple crazy prices for upgrades at the time of purchase, the possibility of repair and the later upgradability.

[@J-Kimble]

Comparing different instruction sets on different OSes is a bit apples to oranges. That being said, the diff in this case does translate to real-world usecases so impressive results.

[@ansoncall6497]

PC for desktop, Mac for laptop. win win.

[@milosmartplug]

nope pc is obsolete .. better buy a m4 mini ..

[@speedXchess]

So what I understand is that: M4 Max (CPU) = AMD 9900x (consume 5x less power) M4 Max (GPU) = RTX 4070 (consume 10x less power) It's safe to say that the M6 Max will perform like the RTX 5090.

[@DeepteshLovesTECH]

Nothing is for free. M4 Max cost = 2.25x (9900X + 4070).

[@segundacuenta726]

@@DeepteshLovesTECH comparing laptop to desktop. Try comparing it to another high end laptop.

[@charlievarley]

The m4 ultra should be out in the 2nd quarter of next year. It often doubles the speed of everything. It's essentially 2 m4 max chips working together. There has been a rumour of an extreme variant, too, that is 4x max.

[@segundacuenta726]

@@charlievarley that ultra and hydra or whatever it is called, will be insane but probably very expensive and very few people be able to afford it (with lots of ram). However there are people who make money with such machines and it may compete in value with traditional workstations since high end cpus and gpus are very expensive as well. For the rest, we like to watch XD

[@cheekster777]

Thank you Lauri.

[@mbahmarijan789]

what about emulation performance?

[@kamil_hassan]

Need a ram comparison please is it worth to spend 200 bucks for 64 gb variant?

[@kaptnwelpe5322]

Rendering? Where time is money? Workstation. Threadripper pays for itself... . Same as for AI. There is a reason why the RTX Axxxx line exists (as entry level for those tasks).

[@davefellows]

I'm trying to wrap my head around $440 for a dock!! Looks nice but that's crazy expensive.

[@benjamin_lecomte]

I definitely will try to wait for the Studio version, if my pc don't die before, has it will beat the PC where i need it for less money and less power draw. Don't have time to play now that i'm a creator soooo don't need the RTX 5K

[@HK-NYC]

What about fan noise on m4 max vs m3 max?

[@maestro0428]

Who renders, encodes or exports video while on battery power?

[@Thevikingcam]

Yea with media engines on M4 are lighting fast BUT when we are looking the RAW power of the CPU and GPUs, well then we got problems. But that been said i did let go of my 5950X/4080 PC for the base M4 so hehehehe....

[@alpenfoxvideo7255]

please keep us updated on the new intel iGPU for Resolve! vs the M4 and the older generation

[@dayeah765caoni3]

Basically, you have no valid excuse to skip working in a powe outage😂 with such power efficient macbook

[@legobuildingsrewiew7538]

Awesome!

[@PKperformanceEU]

Cant wait to receive my m4pro! For the viewers keep in mind, M4max is faster than 9950X and 285K both ST MT in the gold standard SPEC2017 and SPEC HPC2021

[@gabrielegelfofx]

Unfortunately the most used and professional 3d apps aren't available for MacOS: 3ds Max, Solidworks, Ansys, CATIA, Alias, Creo, Inventor, Siemens NX, Revit and D5. Many CUDA based renderers weren't converted for Metal. I think that for "heavy" compositing and video editing the Mac Book Pro is the best laptop available now but for 3d I would buy an Asus ProArt because you can plug an external gpu through the Thunderbolt port and leave the internal gpu working only for the display. I don't think you can leave a Mac Book Pro rendering for 24/7 days without melt fans, keyboard and ruin the battery. My Threadripper/Xeons/Nvidia cpus/gpus never reach 75°C while rendering 24/7. For video editing a Mac Book Pro M4 PRO is enough, the MAX version is not for 3d.

[@frantisekfurstenceller9453]

I have the 16" M1max 64gb 4tb version and still going strong,, seeing these results got me thinking, do I need this? No! Do I want it? Yes,,,,but the price,,£4k,,,,

[@Markingkey]

can it game?

[@Teluric2]

I want to see the test on video with both machines on a desktop. Numbers are just that.

[@resekai]

I have both Mac and Windows. The Initial cost may be higher for the Mac, I get more done in a week with lower power bills. It is a no-brainer in the long run for me. Windows on the other hand, lately it is feeling like I am playing a free mobile game with intrusive ads popping up. it is counter-productive, I dont like where Windows is heading.

[@SamHocking]

When I calculated electricity bills, a mac will save me £19 / year if it's on 8 hours a day, it's just not a valid reason to not use Nvidia imo.

[@PaulRoneClarke]

X86 is dollar for dollar now about 40% behind risc/arm. And the gap is widening. In five years x86 could become completely irrelevant if they don’t do something dramatic to improve their performance. I suspect they won’t and that we are in the last days of x86

[@DeepteshLovesTECH]

Wait but how? I agree AMD 9000 and Intel 200 generation hasn't been all that but "X86 is dollar for dollar now about 40% behind risc/arm"?? In what world? You can build a 285K or 9950X system with an RTX 4090(which is 2 years old at this point) for much less than the cheapest M4 Max, not to mention the flexibility of upgrading parts seperately.

[@PaulRoneClarke]

@ Sorry, my bad. I mean production cost and performance. Wasn’t clear with that. Apple can make an M4 for about the same price as a 9700X. Yes they choose to charge much, much more for it. But that’s because people will gladly pay for it. If it came to a price war Apple, have a load of margin they “could” sacrifice. But they don’t need to at the moment. Worse. X86 could not reach the raw performance of M chips if they wanted to. And definitely not at the power and thermals M chips run at. I maintain that unless a miracle occurs…X86 is doomed. Windows will increasingly support none X86 formats going forward.

[@milemilic4859]

Probaj na linuxu ovo nema smisla ali nikakvog.

[@UsmanAli-mk4qg]

No, we do not need this much power in a laptop. It's ridiculously expensive. A desktop PC offers much better value for money. Keep the MacBook Air for mobile work and build a PC for your everyday tasks.

[@DanielNeubauer]

Some people need it

[@lukabosnjak3829]

Well here, you can own 1 laptop and a monitor...

[@denizahmet2299]

Can it scrub through 8k H265 footage in Resolve smoothly?

[@YoDawgUnleashed]

Most likely with ease. Check out TerryWarfield's stress test of the Mac Mini pro M4.

[@theTechNotice]

Coming out shortly in a livestream! :)

[@superultrafabulous]

8K Canon Raw, 8K ProRes 4444XQ, 8K REDRAW, ARRI 8K,

[@RybergNikolai]

Watching on my Macbook pro 2012 15”

[@karlos1060]

The thing is, i don't think you can really game on the Apple when you spend 4K. The encoders inside the rtx gpu's are not made for heavy use. You want the H100 and H200 gpu's it will make the Apple look like nothing. Also you have the benefit of heavy optimised use because Apple makes all hardware or have firmware on it so you can't use other components. Windows has millions of possible configs. I look at it like for example a PS5 or Xbox series X. They are also very optimised compared to normal desktop gpu's that are comparable. Never the less it is very impressive what Apple did. For sure in the power department. What i would like to see is if the numbers change when using those CPU's and GPU's on LINUX. Because in most cases it is so much faster then WIndows. Windows is a very heavy loaded OS wich slows it down a lot compared to Apple OS. I think in reality the scores are not so easy to compare. You already see it in most daily tasks the Apple is less far ahead compared to the synthetic benchmarks. And 4000$ for a laptop. I can buy something so much better. Because 99% of people that buy a laptop with a 4070, 4080 and so on will game with it because they pay a premium. As far as i know gaming on Apple is not easy said and done and a lot less powerful. Correct me if i am wrong.

[@hookyhook]

So this comparison is kinda weird. Towards the end of the video, an M4 Max is 10-22% slower than that of a desktop equipped with an RTX 4070 in Blender. Am I the only one to notice that the 16core M4 Max is minimum $3999? And we all know that if you spec it with 64GB of RAM & 2TB SSD, you're looking at about $4900 after taxes. Building a PC with an RTX 4070 should cost around $1600, and that's what we're comparing?!? Also, did we totally forget the inherit value of x86 processors compared to ARM? (Such as, gaming, compatibility, servers, etc.) There are so many things that this video doesn't really address, and I find it upsetting that the audience watching aren't given the full scope of the picture, while on top of everything, having comparisons that favors the Apple chips. Disclaimer: I applaud Apple for their new chips. They're great for their use case scenarios,. They're power efficient. Their SoC is top-notch in the industry. However, when price is in consideration, they are slower than the competition, yet costs a lot more. They're slower than a 4080/4090, and Nvidia is planning on releasing the new 5080/5090 very soon. Why is this fact not considered in the comparison? I have no idea, but it just seems weird to me that we're comparing the recently released M4 Max chip against the RTX 4000 series GPU, which was released in Oct 2022. And not even the top of line RTX4090, which would be similar in price point.

[@healingheart333]

Ok, it's great for creators and I believe it. Has apple fixed the problem with how they solder in the ssd? I have heard of numerous reports that mac books will brick over time. They are built so that there is one part that has a high failure rate, and since there is no SSD protection, full battery voltage is sent to the SSD destroying all information on it. It won't even turn on since the part that is shorted has drained the whole system and destroyed the bios within the system. Not good. Until Apple releases some kind of notice that they have redesigned this, they could manufacture the best CPU in the world and I wouldn't buy it.

[@haploguy]

not 3-5x more efficient. compare points per watt

[@BenjaminMoorebeer]

No Lightroom?

[@priyamkumarjha5812]

please made a video for game developer laptop recommendation.

[@brandonw1604]

Go look at Just Josh. If he's not a dev he can't recommend laptops for a dev.

[@johnpereira6934]

Don't really care about the Max. It's for professionals with deep pockets. I'm never going for the Max in a MacBook Pro. As an example, compare a MacBook with an the ASUS ProArt P16 (64GB) version with a MacBook Pro in the same price range and tell me how much better it is than the P16. Compare products in the same price class. And don't forget to factor in costs such as Thunderbolt docks, Thunderbolt drives, Thunderbolt cables into the cost. With a MacBook you need a Thunderbolt 5 drive to approach the speeds of the drives in most Windows computers nowadays since the upgrade prices for storage from Apple are ridiculous. Not to mention subscription pricing to use software that lets you run Windows for ARM and associated programs on the MacBooks. As an consumer mainly I can build a fairly decent desktop for $2,500 on the PC side. How does a MacBook or Mac Mini in the same price range compare? I'm more interested in comparisons of products in the same price class instead of a MacBook that is over $1,000 more expensive than a P16. Finally, I would love to hear your perspective on MacOS vs Windows, i.e. which OS you think is better in a use case scenario. Nothing regarding the ecosystems please. The energy saving from using a MacBook Pro vs a P16 would need to huge in order to pay off the price difference between comparably equipped devices.

[@TheEVEInspiration]

It probably starts throttling a lot after an initial peak performance, like its predecessors did. This can result in a horrible experience, irrelevant for light use, but when crunching while also interacting (games, editing work) a real downside.

[@lukabosnjak3829]

No

[@rob_tuna]

Engineers are creators too 😢

[@jakejoyride]

comparing $4000 laptop to $1500 laptops

[@evann9585]

Hello, I guess you mean a 4070 mobile for the last comparison. Please write it on the table because it is not as powerful as a 4070.

[@theTechNotice]

I meant DESKTOP at 12:03 and mobile at 10:58 as seen on screen.

[@evann9585]

Sorry I wasn't paying attention when you said desktop, but yes you did. So on the other hand, thank you for specifying it on the video !

[@jaralara6429]

Apple try not to make every reviewer look like a paid shill challenge: impossible (they're just that far ahead at this point)

[@Teluric2]

No matter how " impresive" can be if true .Mac os market share is a joke

[@maldyfish]

the only competitor to this will be when nvidia makes cpus

[@_shreyash_anand]

The performance is absolutely ridiculous. Sadly I absolutely cannot afford it. The Mac Studio will be incredible when that launches

[@passionatebeast24]

New Mac mini is very affordable. It's very good too.

[@halgari]

Why no tests with a 4090? "Absolute beast hard to beat"...this is wrong. Because you didn't even test the best GPU with GPU benchmarks.

[@Tyrellco7]

Again ....RAM of the M4 ????

[@theTechNotice]

It's the 'base' model with 48GB

[@matevosyanmikael2194]

What about Adobe After Effects?

[@denizahmet2299]

So basically when the M5 Ultra comes along the PC is probably done for. Don't also forget you get a stunning screen as well.

[@frankwong9486]

People say PHP is dead, java is dead Yes and they still exist ATM 😂

[@SamHocking]

I doubt it, Intel hold 62% of the processor market, AMD 35% and Apple / TSMC 3%.

[@kaptnwelpe5322]

For sure. The x64 Workstation and Server Vendors are closing soon... 😂😂😂

[@logirex]

Apple has actually lost market share down from 9.5% to 7.7% in the PC market (2024 vs 2023). People probably don't like the upselling from Apple or that you can't upgrade anything once you bought the machine.

[@DeepteshLovesTECH]

Bruh, there are usecases other than just photo and video editing.

[@milosmartplug]

apple just made intel amd microsoft and QUALCOMM obsolete

[@Teluric2]

You cant compare a laptop vs a cpu.

[@folteaiustin4969]

Thatțs absolutely nuts. But whatțs to come is even more nuts. I can't imagine what the m4 ultra will do.

[@MrSiddhartha99]

Pc is much versatile.as you mentioned 4000 buck only for creator purpose... Same amount of money I can build a high end pc with rtx 4090/5090 and with whole streaming setup with much bigger screen and al those things..which will be much much more powerful in workstation app as well as gaming in which Mac sucks

[@YoDawgUnleashed]

True, but the Mac pulls much less power per amount of grunt and is highly portable for working anywhere even on battery power. Could be sweet to keep working when power goes out too. I haven't considered Mac since over 30 years ago and been a PC guy, but am tempted by M4 chips.

[@MrSiddhartha99]

@YoDawgUnleashed thats matter only if I want a portable device.. otherwise doesn't matter

[@MrSiddhartha99]

@YoDawgUnleashed I am not denying that M4 is much ahead of current offerings from Intel/ AMD .. it just can't compete on price point if I add a dedicated Nvidia GPU..

[@DanielNeubauer]

True but unified memory is another plus for Apple. Think huge LLMs.

[@MrSiddhartha99]

@@DanielNeubauer waiting for Alex's video for the same..

[@paulgault5350]

Not sure if it's because your an Apple fan boy, but your numbers for the 9900X are atrocious and incorrect. I have the 9900X and have ran several cinebench R24 benchmarks and I can't get mine to produce numbers anywhere close to your low numbers. My scores for 9900X are all above the M4 max that you showed, so you have crippled your processor just to get views for Apple. Shame on you

[@Martin36544]

Still crap for 3D work then… And professional CG artists don’t care about power consumption as our time is more valuable than the electricity bill!

[@brandonw1604]

Well you'd be using a desktop anyways then so...

[@itiswhatitis-yes]

You basically commented even before the watching? Bravo man

[@riccardoalicino8575]

Crap? Did you se the video mate?

[@Filip_k26]

avg apple hater jumping to conclusions purely bc hating on apple is cool😂

[@mashirokobato5509]

​@@Filip_k26nah pro user still using Threadripper..lelz..apple are good at marketing but real artist don't use mac

[@sercan272727]

its great laptop but unfortunately doesnt run windows, so its useless

[@lukabosnjak3829]

It might actually be an advantage, depending on if support for arm chips keeps going like it was in the past

[@sungjiLee-el7gj]

expensive photoshop machine

[@Teluric2]

Too muxh ridiculous and insane words, sounds biased.

[@OggVorbis69]

So how virtualized windows on that mac m4 max compare with bare metal windows setup?