THIS Changed SSD Storage FOREVER on MAC and Windows | ASUSTOR Flashstor 12 Pro review & Guide

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0:00 Intro
1:47 Overview and IMPORTANT NOTE!
2:28 Unboxing & IO
3:22 Teardown
5:03 SSD Installation & cooling
6:05 SSD Compatibility
7:34 Turning it on
8:29 LG OLED TVs
9:33 [Step-by-Step] How to set up the NAS guide
17:56 Mapping (setting up) the network drives
21:29 Speed Test & explanation
26:58 Concluding thoughts

[@theTechNotice]

FYI forgot to mention that the MP44 SSD has VERY high TBW Spec As well!

[@asafblasbergvideographer]

TBW comparable to the more expensive Kingston KC3000 which you said was very good for video editing?

[@simon1234567ful]

24TB= more than 6× 7.5TB? 😅 Maybe a little overlay edit in the intro of the vid... 😅

[@theTechNotice]

OH, even more than Kingston, a lot more :)

[@asafblasbergvideographer]

@@theTechNotice That’s good to know. I’m not sure if you’re aware but Sonnet Technologies manufacturers a really great Thunderbolt Dock that has two (2) NVME SSD slots with 40gbps bandwidth plus some more USB-C ports for Mac and Windows machines. It’s great and has the same speed as those single-drive enclosures you reviewed in your “Storage Guide for Mac” video which I absolutely loved!

[@huzaifazkansa]

Raid use space lot too I believe.

[@jakesmith5278]

$800 for a file server is insane. Wait until there are competition on the market and this thing should not be more than $400.

[@l33t00r]

yep, i should be around $500

[@ShortStoryInspiration]

obviously you've never used one 10gbe, and have no idea what you're talking about

[@jakesmith5278]

@@ShortStoryInspiration Obviously you don't understand the concept of competition.

[@NovaDoll]

@@jakesmith527810gb ports aren’t cheap…

[@Skobeloff...]

He is initially aiming this at apple users though, it isn't meant to be a smart purchase.

[@karthikeyanparasuraman9337]

This guy ain't gonna stop dropping banger intros!

[@somethingclever1234]

thats why i dont subscribe...

[@davehemm1]

Don't forget that RAID is not a backup.

[@SmartK8]

Indeed, yet many people still use parity instead of just striping + proper backup.

[@xythiera7255]

Its not but think about it that way 99% of peopl dont back up anything at all so even just a raid is better then nothing

[@chrism6880]

Very little data is worth backing up for a residential user

[@ghost-user559]

@@chrism6880It’s kind of the other way around? Residential users are the only ones with their personal data at stake. Large Enterprises are just risking other people’s data, and their own revenue.

[@graog123]

​@@chrism6880 what a dumb comment People with small businesses or family photos exist

[@tanookimarketing]

Paying $1000+ for 5TB is wild.

[@mhavock]

Titling a video thumbnail "96Tb (affordable)" and not building it is even wilder.....

[@VictorDiVello]

LOL exactly what I was thinking. 96tb….. “Here is 6TB, well 5 cause raid 5. 😅 Thought I was about to see a contender for my r740 with 85tb ..

[@Ludak021]

especially when you only needed one more TB.

[@ToddThomas_todd_dsm]

I use MacBooks, exclusively. But, I don't think Apple got the memo: storage is a commodity, with pricing; ding-dongs.

[@ToddThomas_todd_dsm]

Would NEVER pay for their storage.

[@chrisrockscode1202]

I’m buying this beast for my birthday! I’ve been looking for something just like this! Saved!

[@FreeDreamStudios]

This feels kind of misleading. Yes you can get 96 TB of SSD storage in this NAS but the cost is going to be almost $11,000. so comparing it to Apple is not really in line with the title.

[@nikolarajkovic3558]

Unless he changed the title, then the title is fine. You get 4 times as much storage for $200 less + future expansion available.

[@aberdeenmeadows]

Thanks so much for the walk-thru. Very precis and exactly what I needed. This is something that I am going to migrate to in the near future.

[@Platinumdose420]

oh wow now thats cool! Thanks for the videos! i enjoy watching them Keep up the amazing work!!

[@rossawilson01]

Anyone who wants quiet and large and fast storage knows that there’s very little out there that cover all three externally. This will do that nicely.

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

Hey everyone! Marco here! We're always happy to see when our prducts get reviewed and thank you to Tech Notice for taking a look at our products! We always love honest feedback so if you have any questions, comments, praise or criticism, feel free to let me know by replying to me! Thanks again!

[@RetroBerner]

Y'all should make a budget one that regular people can afford

[@theTechNotice]

What's the budget?

[@RetroBerner]

@@theTechNotice I can grab a CM3588 NAS kit for under $200 bucks and a 3d printed case for it is like $15. That has quad core, NPU, 16GB of RAM, 64GB EMMC, 4x PCIE 3.0x1, HDMI in and out, and a 2.5g NIC. If you can match or beat those specs by a bit, I'd be willing to go up to $300-350, considering the warranty plus fit and finish of an injection molded case.

[@annebokma4637]

Any idea when the new version will be available?

[@rick_takahashi]

So, this is technically an ASUS shill channel right?

[@stevegeorge7773]

I have to say this is the best instructional on setting up a NAS I have seen. Better than the branded NAS systems I even own. I would suggest if one could do a episode on all things on setting up, trouble shooting NAS systems. Really great stuff.

[@g6design367]

Intro King💯🔥.... Really Good Offer.

[@theTechNotice]

Glad you like it

[@g6design367]

​@@theTechNoticeKeep them coming 💯

[@annebokma4637]

I saw that a new version is coming to market soon with two 10g rj45. I am holding out for that

[@fanshaw]

The 10G NIC means it is not much faster than a single SSD. If you just want "one very high capacity SSD" which you can share on the network, then this is fine. Assuming the Mac is running each SSD at full speed, it will be twice as fast, at least and I presume Mac's can still share their disks. You could plug in multiple SSD's as USB devices and share them. Just as fast for the network, much faster for the local device.

[@CarpeDinkem]

Fantastic walkthru. Thank you for doing this at the level you did and explaining the basics the way you did. Sub'd and Liked.

[@RetroBerner]

You should take a look at the CM3588 NAS Kit for something more budget friendly. You can get that for Less than $200, and slap it in a $20 3d printed case.

[@tonyupham354]

I am sure we are just waiting for the V2 of this unit. Looks great and all that but I will wait till we see the the V2 tests results

[@yumri4]

The major part i think he missed is it is a NAS and redundancy is the name of the game then. Yeah if you go with JBOD you can get 96TB of storage but when you are going with that much storage having redundancy is probably good so cut 1/3 out with RAID 6. In that the ASUSTOR Flashstor 6 is better due to redundant network ports. Yes a little slower but for video editing and back ups the change from 2500Mbps to 10Gbps isn't that big mostly due to the CPU in the NAS is the bottleneck. It is also NOT Cloud storage it is local network storage. Why the air quotes when saying "Operating System"? It is the operating system for the NAS as it custom for the NAS like most other NAS companies it comes with a custom OS.

[@Arneby]

Nice! 1. Is there any real advantage in upgrading the RAM if you stay with Asus OS? 2. Should I replace the M.2 fan with something quieter and/or more powerful? 3. Or are maybe good coolers for the sticks a better idea?

[@gheffz]

Wow!!! Incredible. I appreciate the tech you open up for us. I was surprised the speed was a little lower than I thought it would be over a 10G LAN... but 500 to 700 MB/s is still useful, plus the point you made that it's a fast NAS with redundancy. You could have configured RAID 10, which delivers the write speed of RAID 0 but is backed up with RAID 1 mirroring. Of course, that's 50% of available storage because of the mirror backup redundancy. Love your channel, you just get down to the nuts and bolts of the tech without the fanfare. I think, if you try RAID 10, you might experience faster writes... perhaps even hitting 1 GB/s?

[@gheffz]

@@KozureOkami888 Well, yes, now that you mention it! Good point!

[@Atochaf1]

This stuff is so expensive that it's out of reach for the average person. That is, for 99.9% of the population. But I'm glad it exists... really...

[@BigAl444]

Very interesting. We still have an older custom-built RAID-6 server using hi-end spinning drives and 60 TB. It is reliable and only had 2 drive failures in 8 years. But it is a pain with sharing on the network. It uses one Mac as the gateway for any other users to connect. One attractive thing originally was connecting with Thunderbolt 2 for extra speed, but the optical cables proved to be very flaky and very sensitive to heat and if you looked at the cables wrong, it would disconnect. If that gateway Mac needs a reboot, everyone using the server needs to save and log off until that Mac is back up. It also needs special drivers and other issues that make it a pain. It does have 2-drive redundancy and are hot-swapable which is nice. Just have to use the exact same type of drive and if you use larger drives, I guess it's hard wired into not seeing the extra storage. How reliable, long-term, are current SSDs? Would this be a good option to replace my current mostly-custom server?

[@jeffnew1213]

BTRFS would have probably been a better choice of file system. BTRFS is a modern copy-on-write file system that supports bit healing, snapshots, and other features.

[@Xudmud]

11:00 I'll respectfully disagree on "Obtain IP Address Automatically", especially if you're planning to use your NAS as a media server. If the router ever decides to give it a different IP, you'll now have to reconfigure any device that needs to connect via IP with the new one. If you have a static one for the NAS, you know what the IP is at any given time.

[@AurelianStudio]

Very nice video as always! ❤ Not so easy to install on the software side, no thunderbolt or usb-c for my macbook😅

[@mastervincent777]

This is an average machine that doesn't draw too many watts. The SFF is the main selling point but it runs incredibly hot up to 80C on the cpu if some mods are not made to add fans. Currently Running ZFS on this machine and only Read and write about 100Mb/s

[@laughingvampire7555]

looks nice, however that is something I rather have standing up, and with the weird shape of the box, just sucks. So it looks more as a part for a DIY project, take the electronics out, 3d print a different case, put some serious heatsinks and fans.

[@Mattceeee]

Excellent video as had my eye on one these for a while. Just waiting for 8tb drives to come down in price a bit more as need a lot of storage

[@domdedic1094]

I wish they would a thunderbolt version of this! I would buy it in a heartbeat!

[@chionyenkwu2253]

Great vid. One wonders how the value proposition stacks up if we factor in durability n reliability 🧐🧐

[@stormk-1130]

I need some of that for all my digital library. But m2 are really expensive xD. Imagine having the money to fill that with 96 tb

[@fgbreel]

Nice to see the BtrFS option available there! Does it also support BtrFS compression (and other features) ?

[@joshhardin666]

ServeTheHome did a review and found that "on average, each drive here has roughly the bandwidth equivalent of a PCIe Gen2 x1 lane" due to the pcie mux switches employed in this configuration or roughly 500MB/s which is TERRIBLE in terms of performance. pcie4x4 hard drives should be in the 7gb/s range.

[@SilverX95]

this looks like it would be great for high speed video editing and fast data access stuff as long as the network is fully 10 gigabit or at lest 2.5 not so much for long term storage.

[@radman8321]

Far too expensive for the 12 bay version. Not all hobbyists are rich.

[@JojoJoget]

Indeed, $ per GB is why most are still using HDDs

[@AlfaStation1]

​@@JojoJoget indeed. Bought a 16GB WD hhd last year for under 300$. You dont need expensive ssd or M.2 if using only for backup and replay.

[@NovaDoll]

Do people not know how to save for something they need?

[@Freshiz325]

pretty underwhelming. Can probably reach the same speeds with SATA SSD's and save a boatload over having to buy NVME.

[@ghost-user559]

Yeah without a faster interface like Thunderbolt, this is a dud. But with Thunderbolt this could be amazing.

[@josecampos2051]

Everything was great till my nas disappear from the Asustor Control Center after to finish the configuration. What should I do now to see it again and having a chance to map a folder on the disk root?

[@n25992]

What keyboard are you using . I like the typing sound which one are they ?

[@germanmairen]

Great vid! Can this be connected directly to the computer instead of using the Ethernet and Wifi?

[@cheekster777]

Thank you my friend.

[@c0p0n]

This processor has... 8 lanes of pci 3? I'd love to see actuall performance tests.

[@DS-pk4eh]

- Windows Copy is slow, use maybe TeraCopy - That 10Gb LAN port is good, but this needs USB 40mbps or TB or PCI slot for them to use as attached storage to actually use better the speed potential off those SSDs. As someone said, being a very niche product, the price is way too much for what it is (motherboard with cheap Intel cpu and 6 or 12 m2 slots and some ports) Let's hope someone else comes up with more refined and cheaper version.

[@JojoJoget]

Don’t need speed for backups, just massive space

[@asfentantono]

Looks like a good product. Thanks for the video. Can we configure it so that we can access this private cloud from the web? Like how we are using Dropbox?

[@jeremytine]

you could do this .. OR you could get google fiber 8GB/s service, buy a much cheaper and more expandable surplus enterprise server with sata drives and ram cache running truenas. Then you can have NAS from anywhere for multiple people. Mine has no problem saturating 10gig. This would be much more impressive if it had a local thunderbolt/usb4 direct connection in addition to smb/10gig

[@johnpaulbacon8320]

Thanks for this informative video

[@radeksparowski7174]

heatsinks added? when the platform cripples the potential performance to about 1000 mbits only? faster than sata but slower than cheapest nvme.... hopefully high capacity 16 TB m.2 will be affordable and out soon, the next gen of this device might be interesting if they solve the bottleneck

[@jonlockwood1291]

I think that even for half the price, they should be able to provide (with maybe half the number of SSD slots) an aluminum chassis, with good industrial design (like Apple devices, for example), and provide multiple usb4 and thunderbolt ports instead of a bunch of old usb-a ports. This Flashstor 12 is already looking outdated and impractical, due to its high price and its over-abundance of ssd slots. I would think that most users would not want or need that many ssd slots, and would not want to pay the higher price for slots they don't need and would never use. It needs to be smaller, more beautiful, better quality (aluminum instead of cheap plastic for an $800 device), and about half of its current ssd capacity.

[@Zonker66]

At ~$850/NVMe, a 96TB setup is $10,000 plus the Asus enclosure. Going to have to pass until I get richer and stupider. Well, I'm halfway there!

[@nonenone1626]

Great video thank you. Will the SAMSUNG 990 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280 Internal Solid state hard drive work with this from Amazon? I looked on the Asustor site but I can’t tell based on the Nas Series and Remark on each of the supported SSD. I am unable to find that information

[@OldManJimmy1]

I bought a WD My Cloud, increased it's capacity to 4tb which was huge 10 years ago and WD obsoleted my hardware making it worthless for connecting anything but locally. What's the support window for Asustor? I would be hesitant to put another penny into anyone's proprietary cloud solution after WD experience.

[@neilunderwood7367]

I had the same issue with obsolescence. Fortunately, when I opened the case I found a sata drive inside, and could just plug it directly into my computer.

[@edwardstephens936]

Good video, thank you. I'm having a problem trying to restore a plex database in my qnap nas. I can't seem to get access to the directory I need to restore it in. Do you know how to do this?

[@phantomstarpictures]

or film makes who want to do feature film in full raw 4k and especially 8k movies then this is plausible!

[@watubeenmissing]

Dude amazing video keep it up

[@fillashthrownout3309]

I hope Arne Slot's reign will be as successful as Klopp's!

[@RouvenMarkovic]

Damn, why aren't product manager thinking just a little bit longer about it. Yeah it is a NAS basically i understand, but why the heck aren't they putting Thunderbolt3/4 in that thingie with the possibility to map certain drives or RAIDs for direct access on the TB-Interface ? That would make it much more suitable for some workflows. 10GigBit is nice, but 40 GB is much nicer.

[@mondotv4216]

It's not great - not enough PCI-E lanes, an underpowered processor and I wouldn't recommend for video work. You're bottlenecking that 10Gbe connection to less than half it's rated speed. I think you're much better off working live off a TB3/4 direct connected drive and backing up to a traditional NAS. In my case I also have a QNAP thunderbolt connected NAS with an NVME array in RAID 0 and a RAID 6 array of hard drives. Whilst I can work directly off the hard drives I tend to use that as warm storage and the NVME and direct attached storage as the working drives. My TB4 direct attached storage is nearly as quick as the Mac's larger onboard storage and quicker than their 512GB modules.

[@Yue665]

This is actually a bit of a silly product, as Asus put a processor into this thing that isn't capable of handling writing to 6 drives. I think the most it could do at full terabyte/s speeds was 3 or 4. I had originally considered getting one, but if you do the math, you can build a much better micro server with either a splitter card or an nvme switch for roughly the same price, with far better performance out of the box. It's a bit more effort, but if you're going to be spending the kind of cash to invest in mass nvme storage, pay someone to build it or something. It's a product that had a lot of potential, but ruined from Asus being cheap with the hardware.

[@vladislav_artyukhov]

There some trouble with default windows local network speed. Somehow it's feel limited. With 3rd party ftp you can get a lot more transfer speed.

[@drcoo1l]

Thank you for your introduction to this NAS. I have four questions: 1) Does it support Plex Media Server, for having all the family's pictures, music, and movies in one place? 2) If not, what other alternatives would be compatible to stream to a TV, PC, table or phone? 3) If I need to move the NAS to another physical location, Is there a shutdown process? 4) What would happen if you were to forget your password for the admin or network account, do you lose data?

[@FakeName39]

this only seems like a small niche of uses. Unless someone has a ton of money to blow on at least 6 - 8 TB drives, it still feels like sure video editing off that or using it as a temp solution of work flow until it is archived off to a bigger nas.

[@nazrhael3660]

You can do mostly what this does with a conventional NAS with a couple of M.2 SSDs as cache and 10G ethernet port.

[@aflury]

This might be a good investment now that flash is an appreciating asset.

[@abdiqaniahmad]

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[@JacabiteCA]

lol I just saw you video and I already had this wishlisted for Christmas on amazon after doing research a couple of months ago, flash SSD storage is king compared to old mechanical SATA hard drives. Thank you for you review and insight, now for sure I am going to buy it. This will be my media server (I have not decided jellyfin or plex yet). I would be curious what software you would use for a media server, mabey a next video.

[@MasterMind187b]

Wait for the Second Version End of the year

[@cynthiakelly8156]

design flaw/poorly thought out , not being able to install SSD with heat sink also is it hot-swapable ???

[@WillyCash69]

Is this a media player as well? Android based? Like a shield? Dont see why else they would of included fiber audio out

[@darkbit1001]

Apple's SSD is probably a lot faster, when used locally. Transfer Rates of a 2.5G network will not overwhelm either of these solutions. Anyway, apples / oranges comparison..

[@abdiqaniahmad]

I USE MP33 SSD 1TB (PCIE GEN-3) AND IT'S PERFORMANCE IS NICE

[@VKEvilution]

Ultimate DNS cache server. If one PlayStation or Windows box downloads a software package, everything else on the network can call the same file and get it at LAN speeds.

[@phuoctran2617]

What is the keyboard you use in video?

[@ShortMotivation3]

big fan of LG mobiles the display in LG G8 is crazyy

[@Avg_Vet]

Not having usb-c/thunderbolt at 40 gbs is crazy to me. Waste of device if you can't get the speeds to support.

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

We wouldn't have been able to add Thunderbolt to this NAS. When developing it, there weren't good options. With our Gen2 products, we have added USB4 with compatibility for Thunderbolt products.

[@JordanStambaugh1]

Expensive af for what it is. I'd rather get something like the nasync DXP480t plus where you can install dockers on it too.

[@patchstep]

could it be possible that either on the motherboard or the network switch / router, you were plugged into not a 10G but a 5G port? because 5Gbit would come out pretty much exactly to that 625MB/s Or perhaps the network controller splits the 10G bandwidth on the NAS side so it can support two connections simultaneously at 5G?

[@Vj-mi7fi]

Can you do lower end cpu reviews like i3 and r3 ?

[@tsclly2377]

It ain't archival.. Is it hot swappable for the drives and do you get a choice of Hamming codes??? Needs a 100Gb/s port/cable.. oh, ya, I collect LB406S drives (and the like type)..

[@philliphamilton-jf1dm]

I have 3 85” tvs and none are LG. I know it’s a decent brand but after this ad showed me more about LG than I ever know. I will certainly look at LG for my next update. This is a good product video.

[@randomtech5929]

there is no point in having ssds as a local server, hdds will be fine , as we are not going to use this much speed even on wifi. If anyone can make good points, please reply to my comment.

[@caspersmith7112]

my question is will the software also you to RAID the system and back it up to another one for a copy

[@OVERKILL_PINBALL]

That celeron cannot fully saturate that 10GB port.. so close but yet so far...

[@onigvd77]

it’s Mac not MAC btw, it’s not an acronym it’s short for Macintosh.

[@JayfkProductions876]

Can this be used with Direct Storage.. I don't want a storage device that requires internet to use

[@vin.k.k]

I think modern home/office routers should have at least one NVMe storage option.

[@pdiazdeleon]

So what is the process for backing up the files on this NAS?

[@l.e.7436]

I wonder if the USB 4/5 ports are compatible to Thunderbolt 3/4 If not this device is not recommendable for MacOS or iOS.

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

We added USB4 to our Gen2 products.

[@walkerjian]

Nice analysis; the read speeds, I dare say, are at the limit of the 10GBe network. I wonder if there is a way to connect via a faster medium such as Thunderbolt or USB. Apologies in advance if this is a dumb question; I am not a pro at this :)

[@podcastdude]

I agree…the lack of at least one of these two ports is amazing.

[@kesselle]

I want a system that can use multiple thunderbolt ports on the Mac’s and have transfer speed of about 28000MBps Am i asking for too much

[@OzDeaDMeaT]

if this had a 1GB NIC for management and a second 10GBit nic this would be the perfect device. Also, the RAM MAX is a bit low at 16GB. Either way, great price point. Does the RAID control method support TRIM?

[@uweburger]

It works with up to 64 GB Ram, even if not officially supported

[@OzDeaDMeaT]

@@uweburger I think the TRIM question is probably more important for drive life than how much RAM is available.

[@jaimeduncan6167]

Don't fall for it, unless you have a pretty fast network and you just want storage. The price is good, but the thermals, the lmited functionality, the slow CPU, the lack of proper software like the one you find in a Synology or Qnap, the lack of true hotswap etc. But if you just want shared storage it seems to be an interesting platform. You will get no benefit from the gen 4 ssd, so if you can get 3 generation it will be better (not only for price but heat).

[@GeoffCooper]

Interesting, but definitely waiting to see the Gen 2 FS6812X before deciding...

[@winstonsmith935]

I don’t want to do storage for the whole neighbourhood, just my computer.

[@darrenhankner5282]

lots of money. too expensive for me 4T M.2 will suit me

[@XtianApi]

The right is a bit slower because of the raid

[@user-ox1ud8zn9g]

Hi, is this the flashtor gen 2? If not I would love a comparison with the previous gen, and ugreen alternative...

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

Gen1. Gen2 is not released yet. Will send one when we have it!

[@DGgraphicsNY]

Don’t forget to turn off Don’t Sell My Information on your LG…it’s enabled by default….thank Louis

[@GaryBeilby]

How would I connect one of these to a thunderbolt 4 port?

[@brucejunboxing]

TAKE MY MONEY!

[@kennethgooswit3697]

But whatabout security? Is the memory error free or can it garantee my data storage for years to come

[@taviigrant8102]

Is it good for video editing

[@TheNamesJT]

Umm, would this work for game drive? install game and play said game?