REACTING to Jayz 'Video Editing' PC - Is this the BEST we can do?

[@IgoByaGo]

LMAO at that text! Yes I am responding as I watch.

[@theTechNotice]

LOL!

[@JoshuaG]

​@@theTechNotice 16:54 About this part , jay was about to say that since he has so many ssd's in the motherboard, the pcie lanes in the 13900k is stretching to its limits and basically forced the rtx 4090 to run at x8 instead of x16 if one ssd were to go , meaning removed from the motherboard , it would running in x16 again ❤️👍 i don't believe that he has it on the wrong slot 🤔🤷‍♂️

[@theTechNotice]

Yes he did, he was running 3 m.2s and he could've run even 4 just leave the first slot empty, check the motherboard block diagram :)

[@granitecowboy2199]

@@theTechNotice This is a pointless argument. Even though the gpu is only operating at pcie 4.0 x8, it's still running at the same speeds as pcie 3.0 x16 slots. Which we all know, or should know, will NOT impact the performance of the 4090. The 4090 can't saturate the full buss of the pcie 3.0 x16. So regardless of where you put the M.2, it's not impacting the performance of the PC at all. Also, yes Jay is beating his head against the wall for getting the M.2's with heatsinks. Although this PC didn't cost him a dime out of pocket.

[@nocapshots]

Every video you upload, I learn something new. Keep it up, you were the help and reason, on how I got my first pc built. 💎

[@CDReimer]

Since Micro Center sponsored the video, Jay was probably limited to what was available at the store. If you can't wait for parts and have to get everything at the same time, you have to make compromises.

[@theTechNotice]

Yeah very well possible...

[@CDReimer]

@@dhiram4341 You don't need anyone's permission to do reaction videos on KZbin. It's not unusual for a small channel to critique a big channel. Jay have made many critique-worthy mistakes over the years.

[@-opus]

@@dhiram4341 Jay will be happy with it, it is more attention for him and also gives him an excuse to make a response video $$$

[@beardSMASH]

@Dhir Am Who even cares.

[@granitecowboy2199]

@Dhir Am If you follow @jayztwocents. You know there's a very good chance that he will probably do a response video, and that he supports upcoming channels. I know I have seen @linustechtips do response videos to a couple of critique videos from smaller channels, and he even showed up at one creators house to fix the PC he was having a problem with. So, it's fine. They all take it in stride, or they don't last long on this platform... LOL

[@leocatz]

I've watched a lot of both Tech Notice and Jayz videos putting together my latest (and hopefully last) build. Just placed my orders yesterday. I've learned a lot from both and what a hoot to see this cross-channel video show up the next day! Looking at a build primarily for fairly light level content creation, I've largely gone with the components of $1500 build video with a bump up to the 13600k, 3060ti, and a 750w PSU. I did spend an hour looking for the video where Jay made one comment about an air cooler he's used in bunches of builds... never found it... and then realized I'd wasted an hour trying to find something that was one of the least important factors, since the Peerless Assasin 120 would surely do everything I'd ever need. Especially at my light work loads. But you know.... there are a lot of rabbit holes one can go down looking at putting together a build. I'm grateful for both of you and your channels. I've learned a lot and certainly was able to make much better informed choices due to them. Though admittedly, having nearly zero interest in gaming, Tech Notice is my go to. I'm so grateful you're here with a focus on content creators' decisions.

[@zualacnirolf3165]

What MB you go for ?

[@zualacnirolf3165]

@@sethblvck I was asking him because im thinking of same combo with 13600k and 3060 ti . I don't live in US . Will be a Gigabyte b760 gaming x ax ddr5 enough for that CPU ?

[@Aaron_Lesse]

I just bought the peerless assassin 120 for a friend after seeing it reviewed on Gamers Nexus. Between GN, PC Builder, and Tech Notice, there's some excellent information for building and upgrading PCs for different use case scenarios and budgets.

[@no1seeverywhere77]

You definitely know your stuff as a creator and pc builder. We all can learn from one another. Thanks again for your effort and video.

[@itsjustdroid]

3:03 was PRICELESES 😂😂

[@RobH2022]

Love the content, bro.. can you do a video about battery backup or surge protectors. What do you personally think about them..

[@ericinthecircle3631]

Learning what not to do is often the best way to learn what to do! This was a very informative video. I feel like I would have made some of those mistakes too. Now we just need someone to critique this video, so we know if you're making any mistakes ;)

[@theTechNotice]

Exactly!

[@samsonadeboga223]

I trust your judgement on this matter

[@creed5248]

My gpu runs at X8 anyways - but I am glad it does as it frees up valuable Cpu lanes . Plus the chipset gives even more lanes - but what most people don't know is - when they use these extra lanes - they lose other items ... sata ports , pcie slots and sometimes ... whole nvme slots . Also sometimes the nvme slots will run at X2 instead of X4 . It is good to fully research your motherboard purchase before you commit - as you might be disappointed later and not have quite the machine that you originally planned on .

[@m4nc1n1]

Ok, I am a fan of Jay's channel but also an IT Pro who has been building PCs for 25 years. I remembered watching this video and was shocked at the mistakes that were made. ESPECIALLY the PCIe lane mistake. I watch all of you guys not to learn but to see all the new tech that I obviously can't just go out and buy (I do buy a lot, though, lol). I am surprised that it made it off the cutting room floor. Many people who do not know how to build a PC on a high level watch him, and it is spreading bad practices. Really surprised he uploaded it, and I can see why you did this video. Again, I am a fan of his channel, but with this one, I was like, WTF?

[@daveg4417]

Before buying the components for a new build, I always spec out all of the hardware, I download the motherboard manual and always check out the NVMe and PCIe slot configuration and any PCIe Lane sharing. I use this information to determine how I am going to configure all of the hardware, and also to finalize my hardware decisions, which might include a processor change or motherboard change. I try to never share PCIe Lanes unless I have no choice, but I tend to buy high-end systems with processors that have more lanes (i7-6950X with 40 Lanes, W7-2495X with 64 Lanes, etc). I also make sure that the GPU slot runs at x16. I always buy Noctua air coolers now, after having a $6000 water cooled system leak and corrode, I don't care if you can get 3 degrees cooler on water, it's not worth my sanity, or the repair bill. Before buying I also watch as many KZbin videos as I can on the hardware, so that I can catch any issues in my setup choices. My most recent system purchase is an Intel Xeon W7-2495X 24-Core 48-Thread, ASUS Pro WS W790 ACE (I chose this over the Asrock W790 due to the bad PCIe slot layout on the Asrock), 512GB (8x64GB) of Kingston DDR5-4800 RDIMM, ASUS ROG STRIX RTX-3090 24GB (I already had this), Noctua NH-U14S cooler, WD Black 2TB NVMe, WD Black 4TB NVMe, backup hard drives, Corsair 5000D Airflow case, Corsair HX-1200 psu, Ducky keyboard, Microsoft mouse, Dell 34-inch wide display, Mackie speakers.

[@wagnonforcolorado]

I would be curios to see if Jay responds. Thanks for responding in a professional manner to his build, and pointing out where he was on target, and the couple of times he missed the mark.

[@-opus]

A cross marketing opportunity? what youtuber can resist free marketing?

[@sibadey9680]

Thanks a lot ❤ You have clear out my doubts thanks for the important information

[@donnydarko7624]

The machine I just built I'm going to use for music production, blender and video editing. I decided to delay getting a gpu right now especially since I'll be using it for music production more than anything, so I also didn't mess around with what I did get. 13700k with an aorus z690 ultra 1.x ddr5 motherboard (doesnt have thunderbolt 4 but has headers to add Thunderbolt cards in), contact frame, Deepcool Assassin IV, 48gb ddr5 6400 CL30 (xmp for now but if I don't upgrade to 128gb later I will run 96gb at stock settings later. 1tb crucial gen4x4 m.2 (which I didn't put in the first spot so that when I do get a gpu I wont be hampering the gpu at all. Also I'll get more storage soon enough.) then I got the Lian Li lancool 216. I ran it for around an hour, then did both multi-core and single-core cinebench testing and got zero thermal throttling on either test.

[@sennasennina4891]

GREAT JOB! Actually this was good learning and avoiding the typical mistakes.

[@KingKong-xp6so]

Your finding out mistakes was kinda subjective and hilarious same time. Jay2c is a knowledgeable true tech KZbinr

[@nicktayloriv310]

I watched Jay2Cents video yesterday, been subbed to him for a good while (same with you! ✌🏽😉) and I'm watching yours with intent. Being you're holding the Editing Rig crown I tend to run with your channel. I saw Jay at CES a couple years ago but I didn't go up to him and say something. I can only imagine how many people go up to you guys at the big shows and I don't want to be that guy. 🖖🏽 I appreciate how you done this and I also cringed at the HD capacity. OS and Scratch was okay but unless they're sending it straight to a mass storage NAS/Server I don't understand having that small of a finished product drive. EDIT: I'm on a small budget and have a Crucial MX500 that's 4TB that I use for a project drive. Yeah it's not as "fast" as a M.2 NVMe but i's faster than a spinning drive. Once everything is Final I offload to the NAS anyway.

[@jouid33]

Thank you for very informative video, could you please make a video about motherboard lanes and how to best utilize them as a creator... Thanks a lot

[@chrisk6474]

Workstations… Threadripper pro and 256gb of ecc memory. All the pci lanes for cards and drives running at full capacity. No nonsense about sharing bandwidth. Most importantly is the stability.

[@DavidRBermudez]

Just learned something new....reading the block diagram. I have the Gigabyte Aero G X570S and it so happens that the first M.2 slot does not have a switch, so I would get full PCIe Gen 4 speeds while keeping x16 on the GPU...but now I know for my next build to watch out for that! Cool piece of information that usually goes unnoticed.

[@theTechNotice]

Glad it helped

[@dimitriblaiddyd1845]

I just want to quickly say this channel has been a godsend for me I’m currently in the process of building my first PC for gaming and I want to dabble into video editing and streaming this channel has helped me out so much

[@BenGKaiser]

This was my favorite Tech Notice video EVER 🎉

[@theTechNotice]

This is my favourite comment ever! haha

[@RobBCactive]

My motherboard came with a single NVME heatsink, given the old drive will move to the 2nd slot under the large GPU and the gen 4 replacing it in the first slot in case of needing access on boot fails, the manufacturer heatsink is a bonus. The config is being tested with an AIO, so no blocking of the NVME slot if it needs removing. Then CPU & board head off to another country, where I install into a duplicate case with an air cooler with headroom on TDP dissipation.

[@igavinwood]

Ohh. So that's what a block diagram is for :D Nicely done and much overlooked by tech tubers. Kudos to you.

[@Beezzzzy_]

IMO The thermal bracket and Arctic Freezer II 420mm was the best decision I've made for my rig.

[@ericwanner7966]

It makes me want to double check my MB manual. I put an M.2 in first slot on an ASUS board for the OS. I also put a project M.2 with its own heat sink in the second slot (all I could find at the time) and left the MB heat sink out. All has been working well for 2 years but makes me wonder if it’s the optimal configuration. Good to see the experts wrestle with these issues too, and work it out.

[@mastroitek]

I did the same (I was too lazy to check the manual), but as you said, everything is working great, so why change it?

[@zagan1]

He's only saying to not use the 1st nvme slot because it'll drop the GPU slot speed and be a pain to get out etc

[@granitecowboy2199]

So prior to 13th gen and possiibly 12th gen Intel cpu's. The M.2 slot issue wasn't a thing. All the motherboards were designed to either run 1 M.2 from the cpu and have a x16 gpu, or run all M.2 from the chipset. I know the x570 and Z590 boards did not have this issue. I don't know if the z690 require the same consideration as the z790's.

[@ToddKortte]

Such a good video! I am glad to see your opinions compared to Jayz. Really informative, I learned a lot. I keep learning more an more from your content. I built my first PC because of you and I am really happy with my build.

[@jimcollins3524]

Great video and thanks so much for the helpful tips. I'm putting together a new rig and have learned so much here about picking the right parts for the functions I want to do. I just got the Asus ProArt Z790 motherboard delivered today based on your recommendation. Went back and forth between the I7-13700K and the I5-13600K. Ended up going with the 13600K just the price to performance ratio. Pairing with the RTX 4070 ti and, if I can ever find one in stock, the Fractal Design North case. I'll have your build guides on repeat while I'm putting this thing together. I saw Jay's video yesterday and wondered what you'd think of it. This is by far my favorite tech channel. Keep up the great work!

[@johntnguyen1976]

This is actually really brillant, sir. Seeing mistakes and what NOT to do is just as important as learning/seeing the perfect PC being built again and again. Loved this!

[@overkillaudioinc]

Wheew i did my build right! I had to pull up the manual for my Gigabyte Z690 Aero G board and double check! I built your recommended creator PC with the Aero G, an i5-12600K, Noctua N12a Black, Teamgroup 16g memory, but went with Firecuda 530 M2 SSD's. 1 as the OS drive and 2 configured in a RAID for the cache drive and external drives for storage, EVGA RTX 3060gpu in a Sliger rack case with a Seasonic Modular 750w PSU with custom length cables. and it has been pretty awesome!

[@leocatz]

Somehow I missed it in the video. Would you mind pointing me in the "watch for" issue, since I'm building essentially the same rig with that board this week?

[@creed5248]

I overpaid for the Firecuda 530's as well . They are currently half of what I paid a year ago . LoL !!

[@larrymcgoldrick3471]

Too funny!!! 🤣 The whole time I was watching that video I was thinking of you. And here we are... 👍🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for the great content.

[@theTechNotice]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@colinhoover5153]

One of the reason's I watch Jay is because he points out his mistakes as he makes them. TechN gives a solid perspective, but honestly if you had the system Jay built you'd be more than satisfied lol.

[@arnabghosh676]

I want to do music production andvideo editing at 1080p .....should I go for mac mini m2 base variant or build a pc with same amount...i am a student and on tight budget

[@HystericalSej]

17:14 You've spoiled me on this darn ASUS ProArt. I'm building my second ever personal/work PC and I just cannot shake wanting a ProArt. I'm paring it with a 13600k and a Noctua U12A. I've considered shaving off 50% of my motherboard cost with one of your other recommendations but I keep coming back to "why bother? Get it now, max it out with bits later when necessary." xD

[@byunjoe]

I'm not sure when this video was recorded but I got a 192GB kit from Corsair (not 2 kits of 2x48, a single 4x48 kit). And it works with XMP - 5200Mhz CL38. Not fast ofc but I'm happy using it for After Effects.

[@theTechNotice]

Sweet!

[@kwameryan]

Would this 4x48 GB RAM kit work in a Z790 Proart board? Or something else needed?

[@jukebox6470]

Hey Man! I purchased the I9-13900k + ProArt Z790 Board just like you. I also purchase 128gb of 6000mhz DDR5 sticks. As long as I don't run the 6000mhz I can use them correctly? They were very expensive and I bought the 2 sets for a deal of around $600. I'm hoping I won't have to return for say 5600mhz DDR5. Also, wondering if there is anything special I need to do in order to get the most potential out of the 13900K within Bios? Coming from AMD 5800x3d... Amazing vids.

[@alpenfoxvideo7255]

I'm pretty sure they didn't even enabled the iGPU... and they're shooting on an FX6. My pc is very similar to theirs and I did notice huge gains when enabling quickSync for my FX3

[@theTechNotice]

yep!

[@luizsaha]

how do I know if iGPU is enabled?... I ordered a 13900k 4090 prebuild from Corsair and I'd like to check when It arrives

[@alpenfoxvideo7255]

@@luizsaha control+shift+sec on the desktop to open the task manager, in the performance tab there should be 2 GPUs listed

[@luizsaha]

@@alpenfoxvideo7255 thanks so much!

[@paulfairchild8942]

Great video and very useful info

[@KinGDGaminG63]

Love this

[@bryantherron2791]

I just got the asus proart 570 board and it has the potential to run 3 m.2 drives but with the loss of 2 sata ports if you use all 3. Is there a way around this? The case (torrent) has the spaces for 4 2.5” ssd drives and 2 3.5” drives. It was my hope to be able to use all the drive locations and 3 m.2. An it be done? You didn’t touch on this in the videos I watched and you used the parts I’ve selected several times. Also, for this board and a Ryzen 9 5950x is the Noctua 15 still a good choice as you recommend?

[@swdw973]

Regarding thermal paste. This is on a Ryzen 5900X with an Assasin III cooler. So not the newest gen. Anyway, I bought the cryonaut paste. If I put the CPU under full load by running Cinebench for 20 minutes, the hot spot never breaks 73 Deg C (usually sits between 69 and 71), and the rest of the temps run between 65 an 67. CPU cores stay at 100% load the entire time.

[@R055LE.1]

Do you have a desk setup thing? I'm so curious where the cameras are in this video, relative to the monitors and all that jazz!

[@theTechNotice]

Coming very soon! :)

[@soju506]

While I was watching this video I was updating my bios and somehow my cpu will no longer run dual channel 2r memory at expo. So that’s nice, thanks Gigabyte!

[@cazschiller]

Agreed on the 7/10. I watch a lot of J2C/listen to rtfm. I also watch your videos too as someone who uses PPro your specific insights always help my use cases. I saw Jay's video first and honestly I thought it was an okay video but somewhat poor at times too. They might have other things going on that day and this was a thrown together mess maybe. But nonetheless yesssss, there were a few ways he, Phil, and/or Nic could have proactively headed off a few issues before they came up. Also - as a side note, and as someone who visited Microcenter twice this week. I go in there and I sometimes find myself getting 'lost in the possibilities', thinking of friends I should text to see if they need anything. Its just a pc hardware nerd paradise and it can cloud your buying process really quick.

[@leocatz]

There are times I'm grateful the nearest to me is 3 hours away.

[@user-jh1mq2ih2u]

Wait where’s your KZbin channel to show off your production work

[@cazschiller]

@@leocatz you're not the first person I've heard say that 🙂

[@cazschiller]

@@user-jh1mq2ih2u I produced everything on this channel. What kind of question is that on said platform 😂

[@user-jh1mq2ih2u]

@@cazschiller explains some of the lackluster vids on here.

[@chik0240]

I wonders about the bracket one, I have read that usually the air coolers have more convex shape coldplate compared to AIO, so usually the lack of bending using the frame don't get the same effect with tower coolers, would love to see some comparison using the air coolers

[@charltonmumo-bl9pg]

How do we cool a i9 13900k? What's the best way to cool a 13gen cpu. Custom water cool? Aio cooler? Air cooler? What's the best way to cool this beast?

[@joeschmo2693]

I was looking at that cooler for the build I'm putting together this weekend, just being nervous about liquid cooling, but I said to hell with it, air cooling ain't going to do the job (Ryzen 7900x CPU). I looked at some reviews, checked prices , and was just about to pull the trigger on the Arctic 420 model (it was only $129), when I saw that it wasn't going to deliver on time. I went with the Deep Cool 720 360 mm instead. It seems to be a pretty good one as well.

[@Guttalaser]

Hi Sir, the ASUS ProArt Z790 Creator WiFi does has the same switching "problem" between the first M2 slot and the graphic card pcie 16x slot? The manual is not so clear about that.

[@EdwardKilner]

This was a good video. Thank you. I appreciated your comments on all my questions over the past couple of months as I prepared for my first build. 7950X in a ProArt motherboard, 64GB, 1TB + 2TB drives. All in a Be Quiet! case and AIO, and PSU. Works great. Initially, no WiFi nor Bluetooth, and Armoury Crate would not install. After updating the BIOS, the install problem was solved, and new drivers were available in one of the tabs. WiFi and Bluetooth then worked. Still installing software for photo and video editing and tax programs (that time of year). Would not have been quite so easy without your help. Total of 7 fans and almost silent. Old desktop from 2012 sounds like a jet engine.

[@ilovetodrift7557]

7:57 why why why maybe they’re in Microcenter and its the only wd available at that time 👏👏👏

[@automan1223]

it takes several days even after you "update" everything for the system to stop loading more updates in the background. It's like baking a cake. The top looks done but the center is still squishy...

[@Lifecheck101]

Hi any recommendation for video editing PC. Am in the process of buying a Sony a7siii for the video camera. I want the PC to be able to handle the video editing in 4k for instance

[@denvonjooste2236]

What is the purpose of the top NVME slot? Why the massive heat sink? 🤔

[@9PoLkovNik9]

I think that it is better to use dd4 if you need a large volume of RAM. You can buy it much cheaper, and in work tasks perfomance is very close. Ddr5 anyway doesn't give high frequencies on volumes over 32GB and has problems with 4 dies.

[@WayneWatson1]

It only steals lanes IF it's a Gen 5 nvme drive. Also, isn't running PCIe 5 x8, the same as PCIe 4 x16, which the 4090 runs on?

[@theTechNotice]

Nope, it will steal lanes even if gen 4 and the gpu doesn't support gen 5 so it's running gen 4 x8.

[@BenleGentil]

2Tb drives tend to run faster than the 1Tb version so they could pick that for the OS drive if they’re after the ‘best performance’ Also for the cache drive : if it’s not your first workstation, better install the newer, faster drives into an older pc and get that older drive back for cache

[@Arnette110]

I'm still looking to build a new rig for editing (premiere and hopefully soon resolve), AE, Blender and UE5. I like the upgradability of AM5 and I was gonna go with a 7950x but now I'm thinking 13900k. I'm torn between the 2 world the difference in pcie lanes be a reason to go AM5 vs raptor lake?

[@EJSmith-dk3yg]

Can't find "block diagram" for the Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero (not on included manual) as I am filling this with drives. 2X M.2 drives, 8X SATA ports (2x ssd's (2.5"), 6x sata hdd's) and and HBA card from LSI with 2x SAS to 8x SATA drives. ANY THOUGHTS !

[@oxzhy3341]

I have question? I will be buying new CPU + MOBO So should I buy a ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI D4 with Intel i5 13600k or MSI PRO Z790-A WIFI DDR4 with i5 13509, or buy a 790with 13600k and 690 with 13500 or otherwise? BCS 790 is way more cheaper than 690 also same with CPUs 13500 is way cheaper then 13600k here in 🇨🇿. I' let doing gaming streaming, and videos + photo editing. Thank U ♥️ And thanks for good reaction! Your vids are amazing and So hopefull

[@Gamecapturevideo]

Thanks for the reaction and clarifications! I just don't get why they needed to buy a whole new system when he could have upgraded the ram on his TR system from a measly 64GB to 256GB, if that was really the issue? And he could have had all the PCIe lanes, too.

[@theTechNotice]

TR is not good in single core and THE 13900K is better than 3rd gen TR so I get it :)

[@-opus]

That wouldn't get many views and would restrict marketing. Jayz only interest is $$$

[@Gamecapturevideo]

@@-opus I get it, like, it would not make an interesting video for a vast majority of people to try to squeeze some life out of a HEDT by going maxed out ram. Besides, you could always downscale/proxy your footage to edit with and render out your final edited piece using the original footage. It's a bad message to send to PC builders who get into the craft with the expectation that you can always upgrade and expand; ie you don't always have to buy the latest and greatest to achieve acceptable results. I would really like to see the old system vs the new system performance with some Pugetbench scores and render times.

[@Gamecapturevideo]

@@theTechNotice True; I would like to see a comparison between old and new. I would have thought Intel over TR for the iGPU, if that makes a difference in timeline scrubbing with high bitrate footage. Thanks for the reply, keep up the great work! 💪

[@granitecowboy2199]

@@-opus You do realize that Microcenter sponsored that video, right? Sure Jay makes money on the views, but MC paid for that computer. That video was as much for MC as it was JTC...

[@Slacker28]

So if you have an operating system SSD and a storage system SSD you just plug them through the chipset and that's ok?

[@jmarker1000]

First of all, awesome review and reaction!!! Now could we pleeeease get a review of the new 4.th gen Intel Xeon W vs. AMD Threadripper Pro for Creative purposes?

[@ZoroDavid]

Thank you ! I just built a new PC folowing your 3h18 step by step beginners guide to build a PC video and I realised, watching this video, that I mounted (like you did) a m.2 ssd drive on the 1st socket of my Asus ProArt Z790 motherboard. Can you please tell me if my graphic card is still running at 16x even if a M.2 ssd drive is installed on the first socket ? Thank you in advance for your reply.

[@theTechNotice]

on ASUS ProArt z790 you're gonna be fine. Don't worry. You can mount your SSD there, it's just this particular Gigabyte board that shares bandwidth with the first expansion slot.

[@ZoroDavid]

Thank you very much for your reply !!! And thank you for all your amazing videos !!! 😁👍🏻

[@demospongiae3893]

Thanks for the video! In my build I put a 980 pro 1tb in the top slot as the OS and 970 evos in the other slots. I have a 4080. Am I losing performance by having it in the top slot like you said in the video?

[@theTechNotice]

Depends on your motherboard! Have a look at the manual of your motherboard how the PCIe lanes are shared...

[@Anderson_LS]

It depends on your motherboard layout. But even if you have PCIe gen4 x8 lines instead of x16 it cuts off about 1-2% of performance that no one could even notice.

[@DroneStories]

I don't understand why in your motherboard recommendations, you recommend the gigabyte z690 aero D, AND YOU DON'T MENTION ANYTHING about the newer gigabyte z790 aero G. Is it that much worse??

[@crishowe9621]

For my next pc I am going to give a go building it , the the scary thing is if one component is faulty, working out what it is.

[@osamah.mohamed3629]

I have Question about contact frame from Thermalright, Do you think this frame will void the warranty of the motherboard. thank you for wonderful and informative videos

[@donnydarko7624]

it does, but if you keep the original and are careful they shouldn't have any reason to question you if you reinstall it if you ever need to RMA the board.

[@wololo10]

The problem with high end thermal paste is that you have to change it each 6 months because they are too fluid and get pumped out by heat cycles

[@TheHenricus69]

I love your videos, and Jay's❤ I agree with you that Jay made some so,so choices for his edit rig. It was also a sponsored build. The mainbord, your choice is better. SSD'S, your choice is better. Ram is ok. But cooling is not good, I agree fully with you. But at the end of Jay's video he questions his choice for a air-cooler. He might swap it for a Aio- cooler 🤔 It was entertaining, but your videos when it comes to work-pc's are better 👍😉 So keep those videos coming 👍👌👋

[@vlazik]

lol that text!

[@damonm3]

Could always do raid 0 2x2. So 4tb total. But for jay specifically? We all know he’d go with a 2 4tb in raid 0. That would be great for crazy fast storage. And then back it up to a cheaper 8tb ssd and off site..

[@Echo4Yankee]

That top slot is gen 5. If you run Gen 5 in x8, it's the same as Gen 4 x16. It makes no difference until Gen 5 GPUs come out.

[@geezer2tech154]

My understanding is that to run generation 5, you need both a gen 5 drive and a gen 5 slot. If you had a gen 5 drive in that slot, it would run Gen 5 x8 or roughly equivalent to Gen 4 x16. However, you don't have a gen 5 drive in that slot, you have a gen 4 drive running on 8 lanes, so it's gen 4 x8.

[@KOT-ANGRY]

Im watching you both - you both are ❤! JayzNoCents is sily and joking man 😊😂

[@IrocZIV]

Very curious how compatible those 48GB sticks will be.

[@PhillipRPeck]

I had the DR Pro 4 on my 7950X because I already had it from my previous build. Not sure if there are any mounting problems with that cooler on AM5 (seemed fine) but I will say that it wasn't adequate to keep the 7950X from throttling. I switched to a 360mm AIO and it's much more capable of dealing with the 7950X. I enjoyed your commentary!

[@therealsbdunks]

I would’ve done the same! The DR Pro 4 excels in near silent/quiet operations but sacrifices high end cooling by doing that. Especially with the 7000 series processors and their TJmax. In the most recent air cooling review that he did, based off the results, for strictly air cooling I wouldn’t choose outside the U12a or Peerless assassin (if you want to save money, still amazing bang for buck on this guy wow). AIO will most often yield cooler in all scenarios

[@treyquattro]

depends on your ambient and case. I have a 7950X cooled by a Noctua NH-D15 in a Fractal Torrent case in a part of the world that doesn't get too hot, certainly not at this time of year (and depending on global warming!). It hits 95C but doesn't throttle. I use AIOs with Intel but so far AMD high-end chips - 5950X and 7950X - are fine with air coolers, if a bit noisy at full tilt (the 5950X system is even using a smaller Noctua NH-U12A and it's also fine, but the 5950X is a relative power-sipper compared to other modern processors). I'll swap out the NH-D15 for an Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 if it becomes necessary, but the whole point of the Torrent case is that it's an airflow hero. And the big Noctua usually only cedes a couple degrees max to an AIO.

[@Slacker28]

Is there any Super Quality motherboard that I can use all the M.2 slots without it affecting GPU bandwidth?

[@OscarPhoenix14]

Why did I read this as “reacting to Jay-Zs (The rappers) editing PC” 🤦🏽‍♂️😂

[@theTechNotice]

😇👍

[@prem3548]

Isn't running a 4090 at PCIE x8 gonna bottle neck it? PCIE 4.0 x8 is equal to PCIE 3.0 x16. Considering that 2080 Ti was maxing out PCIE x8 in gen 3, the 4090 being over twice as fast would run into bottlenecks wouldn't it?

[@FIVESTRZ]

Lol when did you become a spicy meatball?! 👨‍🍳

[@theTechNotice]

Lol

[@FIVESTRZ]

@@theTechNotice valid points though as I watched it throughout lol the heatsink piece was TOOO relatable

[@jeffbergstrom]

If you limit the CPU to Intel recommended voltage (so, stop the mobo from goosing it to 300+ watts) are you really leaving performance behind? ISTM those power spikes are short lived, add a lot to heat and do little for real world performance. If you watch videos of people under-volting their CPU they lose very little in performance and gain a lot in heat savings making air cooling very workable. IIRC I saw a video where someone did as above and lost six seconds on a 10 minute render. No one will notice that but the system ran much, much cooler.

[@treyquattro]

Jayz2c gonna send the boys round...

[@theTechNotice]

😬

[@marioinacio9274]

thats why i went with amd 1st slot pcie gen5 first gpu slot x16 gen4 second m.2 slot x4 gen 4 and soo on

[@Ade5]

Agree, I got the Dark Rock 4 on my 13700K.. Not really a good cooler..

[@MitternachtAngel]

I don't like water cooler because it can be more of a hassle. Another thing is that spending 100w more for 5% performance is not worthy.

[@LukeBroadhurstfilm]

The fact that this guy is using Apple headphones instead of something a bit more audiophile is the biggest hypocrisy

[@perlichtman1562]

Any chance you could change the audio for the WhoKeys ad? I like the sponsor and used your link in the past to buy a key, but the audio processing is so disorienting that I watch your videos less often because it makes me feel physically uncomfortable (like spinning for too long on a swing.) It’s been an issue for a while now but I just haven’t had the energy to mention it. It would really help me enjoy the videos if you used a version without the current processing - with audio more like the rest of the video. Thanks!

[@skjy1016]

I made the same mistake where I put my OS drive into the 1st SSD slot and put two other SSDs on other slots. What's the next step if I would go ahead and put my OS drive into the other slot? Will it detect it as OS C: drive automatically or should I allocate it somehow? I just don't know how to fix it.

[@theTechNotice]

Nope, just move the drives and you're good to go! :)

[@skjy1016]

@@theTechNotice thanks!

[@VndNvwYvvSvv]

If better thermal paste is better, use Honeywell PTM. In fact, that's what some OEMs use. Little industry secret in a way ;)

[@kalleankaa7536]

Ooh oooowwww. This is going to be interesting hahaha im writing as im watching...hahahaha

[@yttean98]

Ayone can response, to my query here. I like to use the i5-14500 and can anyone advise me for Content creation purposes for my New PC what is the most cost effective Graphic card I should use it with? I am thinking of using RTX 3060, and not higher, e.g. RTX 4070 cos I use Content Creation software(mainly lightroom and occasionally video editing s/w) and second hand 3060 is very cost effective. ANd I don't play games.

[@baekmedier]

Pls do a test with switching the fans out from the NH-D15 with the better NF-A12x25 fans..

[@zarkozi]

Can someone explain me this. I use 6 nvme m.2 drives in my system. With 4 slots filled on my mb, and 2 slots via pcie > m.2 extender. My 3060ti is working on full x16. And my mb wasn't any near expensive as the one mentioned in the video. It's Gigabyte Z790 GAMING X AX.. paired with i5 13500 processor. Even the motherboard manual doesn't mention anything about any limitations if all slots are filled (one m.2 slot uses some sata lanes but thats it .. i dont use any sata drives anyway). What I'm I missing here?

[@theTechNotice]

Well it's just the way some motherboards are set up and what features they give cos the cost and CPU have certain amount of pcie lanes. This mobo just gives you 2 slots of x4 pcie gen 5 m.2s which is quite rare :)

[@zarkozi]

@@theTechNotice if that is the case, I would gladly trade the the difference between Gen 4's 6000-7000MB/s and Gen5's 10-12k for having a full potential of the GPU. Even without having to make a choice, the fact that gen 4 nvmes are getting really cheap, (I got my 2tb 850x for under 200€) and Gen5 are much more prone to overheating and likely to thermally throttle.. there is a question, is it really worth it going the early adopter route at this point. And what is the cost of it. Anyhow, thanks for the reply, I myself watched the OG video and screamed to the monitor. I was quite surprised when I saw your reaction. And the fact he always uses BeQuiet stuff is just honoring the sponsors. At least he should disclose it. As they are far from optimal. Cheers

[@creed5248]

A 13500 cpu has 20 lanes - 16 for the graphics card and 4 for the nvme in the first slot . All other lanes for the other nvmes are provided by the chipset . In certain cases - when other pcie slots are used - the other nvme slot are either unusable or limited - example > Too many lanes being used so nvme speed is pcie 4.0 X2 ... instead of Pcie 4.0 X4 ... Also - some sata ports will also be disabled if all the nvme slots are used . Basically you have to check with the motherboard manufacturer to find these limitations . You might have half speed nvme's that you didn't even know about ?

[@creed5248]

Taken directly of the Gigabyte page and these are the chipset specs for your motherboard. 2 x M.2 connectors (Socket 3, M key, type 22110/2280 PCIe 4.0 x4/x2 SSD support) (M2P_SB, M2Q_SB) 1 x M.2 connector (Socket 3, M key, type 22110/2280 SATA and PCIe 4.0 x4/x2 SSD support) (M2M_SB) You can see the X2 on all of them - which means that the will run at half speed if you use too many lanes for other items . Usually involves Sata or Pcie slots being used ...

[@zarkozi]

@@creed5248 hmm.. define too many? I just tested the drives, every single performs at the full speed. Although, I have the WD850x at m2_CPU and pcie_3 slots (6928 read / 6669 write). The rest are lower speed m2 drives I use for storage (3600/3000 r/w tested). Although if your observation is correct. Theoretically pcie4x2 would equal to 4000MBps, which still covers the maximum bandwidth of the implemented drives. I have one more samsung 980 lying around, and I'm tempted now to switch and measure if the speed will be actually limited to 4000. As for the SATA goes, I mentioned above that one m2 shares bandwidth with couple of sata ports, and using it renders them unusable. But I don't use any sata storage anyway.

[@sanatkumarmahapatra3472]

Could you please suggest a good AIO for Intel i5-13600K (240 mm) ?

[@theTechNotice]

Arctic Liquid Freezer III

[@kentcurrie7326]

FYI The ASUS Z790-Creator ProArt was not available at the MicroCenter store Jay visited in California. 🤔

[@theTechNotice]

That's a good point if that's correct?! 👍

[@johann3029]

have to love the Memes

[@billx4266]

Glad im not alone in returning that be quit cooler, i found out it was not a good performer and went back to nocua!

[@thefluxlife]

Usually I hate the drama around react videos but appreciate you kept it objective! And goodness sakes PCIe topologies just seem to be getting worse. I still don't understand this obsession with sacrificing PCIe expansion slots for onboard nvme.

[@lamikal2515]

TBH, if PCIE 1x/2x drives and M.2ports were a thing, it would be a good thing.

[@-opus]

9:40 You reference your video which included 2 obviously incorrect Be Quiet coolers, and excluded the Be Quiet Pro Rock 4 which was always their obvious choice and is the cooler that Jay chose.

[@roadi7]

my thoughts exactly