I SWITCHED to AMD - NEW ULTIMATE Creator WORKSTATION feat. Threadripper 7970x & Lian Li SUP-01

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Tech Notice

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@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice Ай бұрын
WhistlinDiesel, Anyone?
@joedavison2675
@joedavison2675 Ай бұрын
That was a funny edit 😂
@raminpro9765
@raminpro9765 Ай бұрын
please create video about amd ram sensitivly = 1channel , dual channel difrance(many think 2 single ram mean dual and use it on amd = hang )
@raminpro9765
@raminpro9765 Ай бұрын
you create my 15 year dream pc,,,i dont have money for it,,,so enjoy it instead me too
@cyranodebergerac1729
@cyranodebergerac1729 Ай бұрын
Please share your views on why you choosed threadripper 7970x versus intel cpus, i.e what are the pros on threadripper versus Intel 19700k or ks
@fahianpretu6779
@fahianpretu6779 Ай бұрын
Please do a budget Ryzen creator PC next,please.
@LawrenceBeals
@LawrenceBeals Ай бұрын
Built one of these a few months ago. Same CPU, 256GB ram, 4 SSDs, 7900XTX in a Be Quiet 901 pro case. Chews through any GIS work and modeling I throw at it. Pretty happy with the result.
@cyranodebergerac1729
@cyranodebergerac1729 Ай бұрын
theTechNotice can you please explain us what are the advantages in your system versus intel, especially when you talk about quick sync, at what part of your workflow you benefit better in Threadripper versus intel? Maybe even in comparison to 285k ?
@mastroitek
@mastroitek Ай бұрын
Hei man, I'm a Geography student and I enjoy GIS, I mostly use ArcGis Pro but found it to run fine on "low end hardware", I can see that how a fast CPU can speed up some processes, but in what instances do you need that much ram and such a GPU? Is it with other softwares? I'm simply curious, because for my little experience I have never seen the ArcGis Pro and SNAP take more than 15GB of ram and both work surprisingly well on low end gpus.
@LawrenceBeals
@LawrenceBeals Ай бұрын
@mastroitek Our Lidar datasets are now coming in at 1TB in size (archeology) for a high resolution fulll-site scan. Developing a Red Relief Image Map (aka Red Hillshade) using Relief Visualization Toolbox (RVT) we were seeing crashes when RVT took all available memory on my previous workstation (threadripper 2950 w/ 128GB). Niche case most likely. Plus generally I run multiple instances of ArcGIS and a single instance of Global Mapper doing constant processing when we get a new dataset. Each single instance doesn't stress the machine but in aggregate it typically hits about 50%. Data transfer speeds are the biggest bottleneck.
@mastroitek
@mastroitek Ай бұрын
@@LawrenceBeals thx, that sound super cool! I worked very little with LiDAR data so far, but I'm looking forward for the next semester, I will have various labs that focus on it!
@nonickname2372
@nonickname2372 Ай бұрын
That build is a pure beast. Its beautiful man. Great job and great videos as well.
@itiswhatitis-yes
@itiswhatitis-yes Ай бұрын
Pheww the new studio looks badass! And the coat matches really well man! Great video as always
@g6design367
@g6design367 Ай бұрын
Beast Of A System 🔥.... But That Intro Bro........ 💯
@computerenthusiast402
@computerenthusiast402 Ай бұрын
Your Moving Up in the World and NOT Down. Good to See
@thetheoryguy5544
@thetheoryguy5544 Ай бұрын
He'll be on Arrow Lake within the next week lmao.
@Tithulta1
@Tithulta1 18 сағат бұрын
So glad I stumbled upon your channel, my nephew wants me to build him and his wife new PC's next spring. I'm a gamer, I've streamed gameplay, but nothing big. They are both PA's at a local Hospital, and she's a very good artist, so the idea of using the Intel gpu is so interesting! It'll be interesting going through parts come spring to find the best bang for their buck. High-end gaming PC and a Very good Creator PC i think.
@roundandedgeless.1218
@roundandedgeless.1218 Ай бұрын
I've been looking at this case for my next overhaul, so cool to see you throw a threadripper in one of them! nice intro too lol
@TheDirtyBirchTrails
@TheDirtyBirchTrails Ай бұрын
I'd love to know how much money is paid to Adobe each year to make sure their products only run fast and stable on Intel cpus.
@frankwong9486
@frankwong9486 Ай бұрын
Soon : Switched back to intel and here is why 😂 Later on : I am wrong , 5 reason to switch back to AMD Unlimited video idea by looping between different brand ❤ Hope snapdragon do something and catch up but they didnt looks fine imo
@Tafa_Edits
@Tafa_Edits Ай бұрын
This is a really well-made video! till the point you left us hanging for more testing haha I speak for all of us when I say that we want to see a 9950x build with an NVIDIA GPU + Intel Dedicated GPU for QuickSync acceleration V.S an Intel 14900k or the 2xx series build when they are released. We creators love AMD's upgrade path, but we always feel pain knowing that an Intel CPU always has an advantage in Adobe Premiere due to their iGPU. This would be an awesome test, and you are the perfect fit to show us the results! We'd like to see how effective and valuable having an Intel dedicated GPU on top of an Nvidia one while using an AMD CPU. Especially knowing there's not a lot of testing out there Cheers!
@Metical1312
@Metical1312 Ай бұрын
Not sure if Enermax has fixed there AIO problems but they have several corroded AIO loops , besides that great build !!
@Justtwodangmany
@Justtwodangmany Ай бұрын
I have a very similar build. But I dont think you realize the RGB trifecta you just assembled: AMD,NVIDIA,INTEL.
@dudetapedtoafridge3073
@dudetapedtoafridge3073 Ай бұрын
0:36 beware guys get your earplugs readys that's an insane jumpscare
@ШотаГоголи
@ШотаГоголи Ай бұрын
Very elegant and compact for serious tasks
@christianmartin3456
@christianmartin3456 Ай бұрын
this amd+intel+nvidia is so bonkers I might just actually copy it when I do my rig upgrade!
@ravipun632
@ravipun632 Ай бұрын
Do you happen to know if Davinci Resolve switches between the Intel and the Nvidia GPUs as smooth as it did in Adobe Premiere Pro?
@xsparky0168
@xsparky0168 Ай бұрын
0:35 bros wildinnnnnnn (but still valid)
@SgtStarSlayer
@SgtStarSlayer 15 күн бұрын
you are blowing Hot AIR to the Back of the MOTHERBOARD! what a Tool You Are.
@aelaan12
@aelaan12 Ай бұрын
What an absolute beast!!
@FrederickWebster-g1h
@FrederickWebster-g1h Ай бұрын
That display cable routing would drive me nuts
@futer994
@futer994 Ай бұрын
LianLi definetly makes best cases.
@gideonakor
@gideonakor Ай бұрын
0:34 i almost spit out my coffee 🤣
@shivraajsingh7484
@shivraajsingh7484 Ай бұрын
2:57 aight I'm subscribing
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice Ай бұрын
I'm NOT setting my Ferrari on fire though!
@xnrg1968
@xnrg1968 Ай бұрын
Gracias for the content.
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice Ай бұрын
De nada mi amigo
@johnpaulbacon8320
@johnpaulbacon8320 Ай бұрын
A little bit curiosity why didn't you get the ( Seasonic - PRIME TX-1600 ATX 3.0 ) ? It has 2 x 12 hvpwr coneectors.
@lhbbq
@lhbbq Ай бұрын
@Tech Notice - To keep this simple, Just based on PCI accessibility. The Threadripper Pro PCI Express Configurations (Total/Usable/PCIe 5.0): 148 / 144 / 128PCI lanes, and the non-Threadripper allows 92 / 88 (Total / Usable) PCI lanes. So, just off PCI lanes, the Threadripper Pro in a board such as this is just about pointless Since the TRX50 only allows 80 PCI lanes. Is this correct?
@JorgeAnimator
@JorgeAnimator 6 күн бұрын
Amazing. This keyboard where can i find him?
@fourwheelerjock
@fourwheelerjock Ай бұрын
Wish I had enough to build a dedicated Editing PC. I just don't got that kind of money to build 2 full PCs. I'd love to doa. Thread Ripper and a Nvidia Quadro build
@raminpro9765
@raminpro9765 Ай бұрын
threadripper +amd gpu better,,,,performance/price is higher than nvidia+ amd gpu has more core than nvidia in same price note=research about this= amd has render gpu too=AMD Radeon™ ProRender
@fourwheelerjock
@fourwheelerjock Ай бұрын
@raminpro9765 AMD makes GPUs specifically for rendering? Bc I ain't talking about a gaming or consumer GPU that you use for editing. The Nvidia Qaudro is made specifically for editing and AI etc etc
@tareklarbi7168
@tareklarbi7168 Ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@SimeonKolev
@SimeonKolev 9 күн бұрын
26:40 I am guessing but it is possible that with OpenCL it is using both GPUs for everything which is why it is lifting the scores.
@RobinGrays
@RobinGrays Ай бұрын
Awesome !!!
@johnpaulbacon8320
@johnpaulbacon8320 Ай бұрын
Now that AMD is working on their ( AMD ROCm™ Software ) ; would it be of any advantage for you?
@johnpaulbacon8320
@johnpaulbacon8320 Ай бұрын
Wonderful biuld. :)
@squatch545
@squatch545 Ай бұрын
Hey Lauri, just curious... did you by any chance switch to AMD because of your testing this week on Arrow Lake? 🙂
@marwanak10
@marwanak10 Ай бұрын
Sweet build, thank you. So Arc GPUs would perform better than Nvidia for Premiere Pro in general? Would that also mean faster exporting? In the case of having to choose one or the other which would you choose, the RTX 4070TI or highest end Arc GPU?
@WireHedd
@WireHedd Ай бұрын
Interesting how this case is an improved and cleaned up version of a DeepCool CH780 case. The raised motherboard and side mounted GPU all look good but are a nuisance to work with.
@TSUREVUU
@TSUREVUU 28 күн бұрын
Are you ever going to build a liquid cooling pc?
@tonyg8471
@tonyg8471 Ай бұрын
Lowly RX 7600 from AMD supports both H264 & H265. I'm guessing the better AMD GPUs do so as well? What is it that makes you say AMD does not support these codecs? What does Intel ARC do that the RX cards cannot?
@mzie25
@mzie25 Ай бұрын
I'm trying to build a powerful unreal engine, Maya work station in the smallest case possible. Have a video for that? I'm looking at coolermasters cube 500 for the case.
@d1m18
@d1m18 12 күн бұрын
I am very intrigued and curious about that extra little addon card he installed, to boost performance. What does that actually do? Would it help in Photoshop or Lightroom? Anyone?
@SilverArrowFilms
@SilverArrowFilms Ай бұрын
Awesome video as usual! Just a question, can you add that intel arc 380 to any system and add to the performance of the PC? Im using proart 4080 + 13900k. Thanks in advance!
@MrBlinksy
@MrBlinksy Ай бұрын
Interested to know this as well!
@siming_photo3983
@siming_photo3983 13 күн бұрын
Yes, well, maybe, maybe not. You need a motherboard where you have atleast two x16 pcie gen 4 slots that are connected to the cpu (definitely not the chipset - this is super important to not compromise performance and have resizeable bar enabled) if you don't have a threadripper system your will be running your gpus at 8x gen 4, the performance loss is negligible since pcie 16x gen 3 is the same as 8x gen 4. I've just did a similar build with my ryzen 7 5800x and 3070 ti + arc a310. I had to buy a new x570 motherboard. It more than doubled my 10bit 422 decoding performance in davinci 19
@UKWildcatsNumber1
@UKWildcatsNumber1 29 күн бұрын
1. Subscribed. Can’t believe I haven’t yet. 2. Are you telling me you just solved my problem with 4:2:2??? I have a Canon R6 Mark ii that records in 4:2:2. For this reason ALONE I’ve been looking at an Intel build even though I wanted AMD. I’ve been struggling with pulling the trigger for 6 months just hoping the new AMD processors or GPUs would support this codec and they don’t. So, here I was about to buy a 14900 so I don’t have to make proxies and you’re showing me that I can still make my AMD build by adding an A380. I have one question: In your experience with the Intel and the ProArt motherboards, does the A380 GPU decode 4:2:2 as fast as the 14900 CPU? Would this A380 fit into an AMD 9950X, ProArt, 4090 build? If so, I’m doing it.
@cheekster777
@cheekster777 Ай бұрын
Welcome to Team Red aka the Dark Side!
@NIBOVFX
@NIBOVFX 27 күн бұрын
Do we need to plug in the hdmi into the intel card for it to do hardware encoding or we can leave it as is and it will detect in editing softwares?
@pathfollower
@pathfollower 18 күн бұрын
Your reference to Darth Vader was absolutely appropriate, since you have decided to go to the AMD "dark side ".... It's always the same story. Wronged by a close friend (intel), your unrelenting need for revenge leads you to the power of the darkside(Threadripper). So sad.....
@brilliantfilmstoronto
@brilliantfilmstoronto Ай бұрын
Hi, Thank you for making this video. Can you make video threadripper vs i9 14900k in premiere pro. Please add two 4k 10 bit 60 fps video in timeline and add cross dissolve on both clips. Then please add color grading and slow down the video to about 30-50%. i want to see how the timeline preview looks without proxies.
@fteoOpty64
@fteoOpty64 Ай бұрын
Your got a T-Rex in your case?. It has a water drinking tube?. Wow... 😊
@jandkwhite6459
@jandkwhite6459 Ай бұрын
Wouldn't the rad fans intaking air be pushing hot air directly onto the back of the motherboard?
@ommenerd3793
@ommenerd3793 Ай бұрын
WOOOOOOOOW
@SGCMSBR
@SGCMSBR Ай бұрын
Ie frumos buildul,,dar,,,ce ai tu acolo ar trebui montat pe-o carcasă CORSAIR 9000D,,An carcasa aia ai fi avut tot spațiul din lume,,,cred că ie dublă la mărime față de cea care o ai tu👍
@wakanda0070
@wakanda0070 Ай бұрын
can you please add after effects test to your review, a lot of us creators use it too
@squatch545
@squatch545 Ай бұрын
So are the NVIDIA and ARC cards working together? Or is the software switching back and forth?
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice Ай бұрын
Take a look at later on in the video :)
@cinemaipswich4636
@cinemaipswich4636 Ай бұрын
Probably not the best case for a serious workstation. E-ATX from someone else perhaps. Not enough PCIe slots for a lot of Creators. The rest of the rig parts are FAB.
@squirrel6687
@squirrel6687 Ай бұрын
The wrong PCIe spacing. Swap the second 16x slot and the NVMe headers' positions for 4-slot spacing. Then we could use dual 3090's NVLinked. Only EVGA got it right. For consumer Intel, the Z690 Dark/Kingpin is the choice. Only caveats are a lack of Thunderbolt and iGPU utilization. Number of RAM slots are enough for me, and it will work with just about any out of the box listed RAM speeds...looking at you ASUS.
@builtofire1
@builtofire1 Ай бұрын
thank you asus for sponsoring we are using gigabyte aero 😂😂😂
@edengate1
@edengate1 Ай бұрын
Nice! Intel heats like the sun and consume energy like a city, i always tempted to go for AMD, but the only thing that makes me sad is the Quicksync for codecs and video editing :(
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice Ай бұрын
Well, I solved it with $130! Now you can have Intel Quicksync on AMD! Did you see that in the video? :)
@edengate1
@edengate1 Ай бұрын
@@theTechNotice That was a nice solution. Is it possible to do it from a normal platform with ryzen 9, or some B650 mobo?
@nathanmcclymont1621
@nathanmcclymont1621 Ай бұрын
Would it be possible to use the Intel arc as a secondary video card with a 5900x and nvidia 4080?
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice Ай бұрын
@@nathanmcclymont1621 yes!
@fdiskformat5049
@fdiskformat5049 Ай бұрын
Y will sell my Asus Strix 4090 OC to get the stuf you have running I want also this amazing setup. thanks vore the video really helpful 🤣
@whosestone
@whosestone Ай бұрын
But what about the 14900k?? Thought that was more better....
@jessiethedude
@jessiethedude Ай бұрын
The Threadripper has an X in it tho
@Z-add
@Z-add Ай бұрын
Proart. A workstation without a numpad. Nonsense.
@ed2fun
@ed2fun Ай бұрын
The only I dislike is the case, I would use a different case, this one limit the performance of the Threatreaper, with a different case I would go for a double 4080, for sure Threatreaper is the way to go, the arrow lake can't even surpass the Ryzen 9 9000series and is still very far behind the threatreapers. As soon as you go for Threatreapers you realize price will increase in few hundred dollars but you get the BEST hardware available, that is why I don't see at all a benefit in this case, are much better ATX cases, Antex Flux or C5, lian Li 011, etc.
@John_the_baptized
@John_the_baptized Ай бұрын
I can’t help but wonder why you didn’t use an AMD GPU. Was it not used because you’re still using Adobe?
@chrisnorman2504
@chrisnorman2504 Ай бұрын
I was 500 like
@gameingHyenia
@gameingHyenia Ай бұрын
PRICEY ??? EXTREMELY Pricey $2,200.00 For the CPU R U Kidding me. Rich people OMG..
@SamiiYou
@SamiiYou 23 күн бұрын
If you're using it for work then this is essentially nothing in terms of cost. Relative to the cost of employees or rent for a premises. If it's just a hobby then it's expensive.
@pablovi77
@pablovi77 Ай бұрын
So, it’s not really a creator build, you cannot add a real PCIE card.
@Mattflea
@Mattflea Ай бұрын
Bro church just called, they said that you established a new "holy trinity" with this, and they are not happy! Great content, just adopeted an arc580 paired with a 12600k thanks to you! Take care!
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice Ай бұрын
LOL! Tell them, unless they accept the trinity there is no salvation! :D
@ferdinandbardamu3945
@ferdinandbardamu3945 Ай бұрын
That’s quite a silly gamer case for a workstation platform.
@tmzzlo
@tmzzlo Ай бұрын
Arent this Enermax writing should be horizontal? :D And if i am not mistaken your cpu radiator coolers blows the air inside the case not outside, so you get hot air from your radiator inside... :D Also what does this little intel GPU does what 4080 cant do? :D Its so funny when people who have no idea what they doing showing other people what and how to do... :D
@Bob-of-Zoid
@Bob-of-Zoid Ай бұрын
But I want a beast PC toooooooooooooooooooooo!😢
@smileinurhand
@smileinurhand 24 күн бұрын
Intel & AMD need more improvement. Intel Price is also too much for this spec 👎 Mac M4 is rocking the field with Les Cost. We can buy a Mac mini M4 at an Intel VGA cost nowadays.
@gtdriver721
@gtdriver721 4 күн бұрын
Great build, ugly case. My opinion ofc, keep up the good work!
@zakim3O
@zakim3O Ай бұрын
1st! oops 2nd
@Nikos_Radioactive
@Nikos_Radioactive Ай бұрын
Nice build mate! The case is completely irrelevant... Ugly and NOT for creators...
@onlyeditz-b1i
@onlyeditz-b1i Ай бұрын
Everyone comment rtx 6900 pls 🙏🙏🙏
@EbonKim
@EbonKim Ай бұрын
Overpriced and underperformed.
@SGCMSBR
@SGCMSBR Ай бұрын
😅Iera și timpul👍
@eris19xx
@eris19xx 14 күн бұрын
hugly...............
@ericmatthews8497
@ericmatthews8497 Ай бұрын
I spent a small fortune buiding a Threadripper 3960X system about 4 years ago. It died three and a half years later or about 6 months past the warranty time for the major components. Since that platform never received any new Motherboard or Processor updates - replacement parts were all ridiculously expensive. So .. I abandoned AMD and went back to Intel.
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice Ай бұрын
😭
@sgredsch
@sgredsch Ай бұрын
threadripper is a trap. the terrible support is the instant nail in the Coffin for Pro work. having no replacement parts in case of a defect is just a non-starter. and dont get me started on the absolute zero uefi updates. having an issue with the bios? better get used to it, because it will never get fixed. my threadripper Board just randomly switches to chinese or just get stuck in a Boot loop that requires me to wipe the bios once every month. dont buy threadripper unless you make so much money off of it that you can buy a new Threadripper system every 2 to 3 years.
@Alex_Greu_de_gasit
@Alex_Greu_de_gasit Ай бұрын
Nooooooo! Intel till I die! :) Now, really, on a serious note, AMD is below Intel (with all its recent issues). At least that's how I look at it.
@potvinsuks8730
@potvinsuks8730 Ай бұрын
.....WHAT??
@Alex_Greu_de_gasit
@Alex_Greu_de_gasit Ай бұрын
@@potvinsuks8730 I was trying to be funny. Looks like I failed. What I was saying was that I prefer Intel and TechNotice always had an Intel-based computer as his workstation. And now he's switched to AMD, a brand I'm not a fan of. That's all :)
@EcoAcid
@EcoAcid Ай бұрын
@@Alex_Greu_de_gasit Being a fanboy is pathetic. Intel is trash. AMD is trash. Nvidia is trash. All big companies are trash. Should just buy whatever is best for you at the time instead of sticking to a brand. I was all about Intel from 2012-2020 since AMD's Bulldozer was laughable and early Ryzen was kind of rough. Once Ryzen started beating Intel I built a 3600x system for a relative and then in 2022 I upgraded from a 7700k to a 5900x, then to a 5800x3D, then to a 7700x and then finally to 7800x3D. If Intel is beating Ryzen 4+ years from now, I will go back to Intel..
@potvinsuks8730
@potvinsuks8730 Ай бұрын
@@Alex_Greu_de_gasit Ahhhhhh, I see.
@tonyg8471
@tonyg8471 Ай бұрын
Why this choice of case? Lian-Li makes great PC cases, no question about it. But if you're going to use one of Nvidia's monster-size GPUs, you should install it in a case suitable for a monster-size GPU. I've seen you stuff overcrowded cases before, and I had the same thought. Why do you insist on stuffing these monster GPUs into cases not designed with enough elbow room to accommodate them? If you want to use a Lian-Li case, go ahead. If you want to use this specific Lian-Li case, that's fine too. But stuffing 10lbs of meat into a 5lb bag is not impressive. Maybe it's just me. Am I the only one that does not like these unnecessarily overcrowded builds? Also, the PSU you chose is clearly a high-end model. But it doesn't have a PCIE 5.0 connector. Again, there is a solution, but it requires more stuffing into an already overcrowded case. Why not just use a 5.0 compliant PSU? I'm sure your sponsor can provide you one?
@iam54580
@iam54580 Ай бұрын
Bro I am too poor I want to be a web developer if u have a old or unused pc or laptop please give it. I want it very much . ❤❤❤❤😅
@iam54580
@iam54580 Ай бұрын
@thetechnotice please reply
@sativagirl1885
@sativagirl1885 Ай бұрын
Can't you out-run an Apple Genius at the Apple Store near you?
@landkart7233
@landkart7233 Ай бұрын
lol.. really?.. c'mon..
@iam54580
@iam54580 Ай бұрын
@@landkart7233 yes bro
@SgtStarSlayer
@SgtStarSlayer 15 күн бұрын
Wire and tubing management is garbage.
@posmoo9790
@posmoo9790 Ай бұрын
I hate that case lol
@emotionalintelligence776
@emotionalintelligence776 Ай бұрын
SELLOUT, Lol.
@darrenhankner5282
@darrenhankner5282 Ай бұрын
you can buy a car for the price of this PC. The economy is gonna get really really really bad in 2025. don't believe me ? just wait and see
@crazy8sdrums
@crazy8sdrums Ай бұрын
You didn't 'switch to AMD...you only switched to a Threadripper CPU. If you had actually 'switched to AMD' you would have also used a Radeon...but you didn't....
@wakanda0070
@wakanda0070 Ай бұрын
lol typical fanboy
@crazy8sdrums
@crazy8sdrums Ай бұрын
@@wakanda0070 AMD is real. Wakanda is imaginary....fanboy.
@rano12321
@rano12321 Ай бұрын
threadripper is not made by amd?
@johnpaulbacon8320
@johnpaulbacon8320 Ай бұрын
@@rano12321 Yes - ThreadRipper is AMD. ThreadRipper was based on the Epyc CPU's ; AMD's Workstation class CPU's.
@SeanBotha
@SeanBotha Ай бұрын
dumb move shills be shills core ultra is better
@শূন্যঅভিব্যাক্তি
@শূন্যঅভিব্যাক্তি 6 күн бұрын
In my pocket right now, I have zero $🤗🤗🤗
@mbahmarijan789
@mbahmarijan789 Ай бұрын
I wish I have this kind of PC 🫠
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