Computer Memory Was Almost COMPLETELY Different - RDRAM Explained

[@brandons9138]

While all of this is true one of the biggest reasons why Rambus failed is that in the PC industry standards are not owned by any one company. Rambus had patents on all of it's hard ware. Meaning if you wanted to make Rambus compatible hard ware you'd have to pay them a licensing fee. Basically they were trying to corner the market on ram/memory.

[@davidgoodnow269]

BINGO!

[@lostskull7467]

So basically dvd?

[@prizmatik8696]

so hdmi?

[@brandons9138]

@@prizmatik8696 You can make a computer without HDMI. You can go with display port which is a open standard and royalty/license free. Rambus also wanted HUGE licensing fees at the time. That coupled with the issues pointed out in the video made it a hard sell to manufactures. Rambus was also having issue making enough of it to go around leading to even higher prices.

[@BlAckH0le-f7y]

While having an inferior product...

[@raymondgonzalez9227]

You said “ Nintendo “ , this video is demonetize already and it’s flag for taking down

[@hampus23]

💯🤣

[@soundspark]

Too bad KZbin doesn't demonetize him for shilling that dodgy VPN.

[@iidogninjx]

Flagged*

[@Frozen-y3n]

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[@AskMoonBurst]

Not only that, they showed Nintendo's I.P. with the expansion pack and jumper pack. The ninjas are already on the way to the studio.

[@dan_loup]

The RDRAM on the N64 use a 9bit bus to save on traces even more (the extra bit is meant for parity, but the N64 use it for anti aliasing). It is fast if you want to read just the next byte and the next byte etc.. you just go read-read-read-read and the memory has this internal address pointer thing that increase automatically. But if you need to do random memory accesses, you need to change the internal address, and that takes like 4 writes, so it's very very slow. And if you have the CPU and video chip fighting over the memory address, things gets very slow

[@volodumurkalunyak4651]

N64 RAM is slow. AFIFAK N64 has ~0.5GB/s memory BW (same as Pentium 2 - could have 0.5GB/s with SDR-66 memory and 66Mhz FSB) Those 2 came 1996 (N64, in US and JP) and 1997 (N64 in EU and Pentium 2). Even worse, Pentium 2 has all that memory bandwidth for itself (without GPU) and it also has 256k-512k of L2 cache, 16k L1I, 16k L1D caches where N64 shares bandwidth with GPU, has no L2 cache and only has 16k of L1I, 8k of L1D caches.

[@dan_loup]

@@volodumurkalunyak4651 for the time that's super fast, given the CPU runs at 93Mhz and the coprocessor at 62 However it rarely ran at 500MBs because of the adress changing hell

[@dan_loup]

@@volodumurkalunyak4651 that's really fast for a 96Mhz machine, assuming you can reach that peak (you can't)

[@Jabjabs]

@@volodumurkalunyak4651 It was far worst than that. It 500MB/sec on paper/peak theoretical. In practice it could barely maintain above 100MB/sec. It has been fun seeing all these home brew hackers figure this out in far greater detail that what was available in the 90's. Recently they have shown there are undocumented registers that show when the CPU/GPU are active or not. Turns out he CPU is idle about 70-80% of the time and the GPU is idle about 60-70% of the time. This is all due to it waiting on the RAM. Could have really used that info back then! Most of the visual edge on the N64 was handled via additional core functionality and internal caches. Reality Engine and its functionality (Texture filtering, proper perspective calculation, actual understanding of depth via a Z-buffer!) was basically the only thing stopping the N64 dropping down to Ps1 performance.

[@yukinagato1573]

@@dan_loup Is it just me that finds ironic that the console marketed as 64-bit had a 64-bit CPU cut down to have a 32-bit bus, and now I discover its memory had a 9-bit data bus? Lol.

[@Kurazaybo]

This story is missing so much. The PS2 also used RD RAM, the high price of Rambus memory was (allegledly) at least in part due to suppliers conspiring to drive up the price and make DDR more popular. Rambus was on a lawsuit about that for years, but eventually lost.

[@vyor8837]

Rambus was lying their A** off.

[@adeptuspotatocus6451]

Sony also used Rambus XDR in the PS3 while the XB360 just used conventional GDDR. That's just part of why the PS3 was so expensive to build.

[@soundspark]

@Kurazaybo RDRAM was proprietary hence the high price.

[@AlexeiDimitri]

Well, if was only that... RDRAM should win the game by... new competitors on the RAM market. Price will always be the charm.

[@yukinagato1573]

The reason RDRAM, despite being tricky and expensive to manufacture, was cost effective for the N64 was because the console only had 4 MB of system RAM, which could be expanded to 8 MB with the Expansion Pak. When the Pentium 4 came to market, 512 MB was rapidly becoming standard for high end PCs, and 256 MB of RDRAM was much more expensive than 512 MB of SDRAM. Intel tried to alleviate that by including a stick of 128 MB RDRAM and a continuity module with the Pentium 4, but even this didn't help increase sales, and they ended up giving up this exclusivity by 2001. Also, the reason Intel chose RDRAM for the Pentium 4 was due to its many architectural... Umm... Characteristics. Lol. Well. It was much more bandwidth-dependent than previous architectures due to a much deeper pipeline and a very fast but very small L1 trace cache system, so RDRAM's bandwidth advantages would keep the caches and the pipeline well fed. In fact, P4 shows a very mediocre performance when paired with SDR SDRAM. This of course was reversed since the introduction of DDR SDRAM. Fun fact: Intel also supported RDRAM with some high end Pentium III chipsets. In fact, they were the only ones that supported a higher speed AGP bus version for a while, which of course made people really mad. Intel eventually also gave up here, and soon they released a high end chipset that supported traditional SDRAM, as well as this faster AGP slot. And, since P3 didn't have the same bandwidth hunger as its successor, the performance gains with RDRAM were minimal.

[@kaseyboles30]

Also there was money between the two companies that provided a purely non-technical motive.

[@kaseyboles30]

@@jonsmith-z1v Yep, RDRAM mostly had high throughput for sustain serial reads IIRC, and for it's bit-width. And P4's could take advantage of that. However they also faired just as well with a ddr based MMC, better in some corner cases and better with rdram in a few more corner cases. Money changed hands or Intel would likely have only used RDRAM based P4's for specialty scenarios and big iron where they could put a lot of rdims together for a wider buss.

[@yukinagato1573]

@@kaseyboles30 Uuhh... I think you meant P4s in this last comment? PIIIs never had a DDR MCC in their chipsets, as far as I remember...?

[@yukinagato1573]

@@kaseyboles30 About your first comment, yes, totally.

[@kaseyboles30]

@@yukinagato1573 Lol yeah I did, thanks for the catch I fixed it.

[@o0shad0oo]

I was calling around computer repair shops in town asking if they had any DDR4 RDIMMs in stock, so I could finish a job. One of them said "oh, no, they haven't made that for decades." I was flabbergasted, and argued with the guy until I found out he thought I was looking for Rambus memory. (FYI "RDIMM" is registered memory for some servers.)

[@paulmichaelfreedman8334]

I remember the DDR2 FBDIMMs for servers being dirt cheap. They didn't fit in consumer boards so they were absolutely worthless when they became professionally obsolete.

[@mafcarvalho]

Exactly! RDIMMs or RDRAM were terms used to describe ECC Registered (buffered) memory mainly used in Intel Xeon based servers or 3D workstations. I assembled many Intel barebone systems based on that tech back in the days.

[@tormentorxl2732]

Oh. The good ole optiplex. They were ahead of their time back then.

[@WackoX1337]

GX200, still got it working here with 512mb RDRAM and Windows 2000

[@tormentorxl2732]

@@WackoX1337 I used one for deltaforce some twenty years ago and it worked fantastic!

[@ARandomInternetUser08]

Still got my trusty GX620. 😆

[@jaketheoctoling]

With some mods. Like changing components. The systems can be brogue back.

[@celdaemon]

1:41 The N64's main bottleneck was actually the memory bandwidth, which got even worse due to the memory being shared between CPU and GPU (RDP)

[@annihilatorg]

You could not run one C-RIMM and one RD-RIMM together. The sticks needed to be installed in pairs, and the C-RIMMs needed to be installed in any unpopulated sockets.

[@drtweak87]

still got a hand full of EDO, SIMM, and RAMBUS in my office lol Deal with a lot of manufacturing clients who have REALLY old machines. I even had a P3 and P4 Rambus boards as well (Not my daily drivers). Now i did see a bump in performance with it though.

[@myne00]

Sd is still made new for your clients

[@curlminion]

4:16 anyone notice this article was written 1 day before 9/11?

[@Gamefreak924]

A lot of articles were

[@davidkohr]

It’s wild alright

[@KingsTownGaming]

I was alive that day

[@CyanRooper]

Are you trying to imply that the Pentium 4 getting SDRAM support is what caused 9/11 to happen?

[@starrymohannad]

​@@CyanRooperBin Laden had enough of Rambus' bs

[@simmydsimmyd]

Intel also made an RDRAM to SDRAM translator chip, used it at least on one Intel MB, which was later recalled.

[@benjikrafter]

The fact manufacturers gave up on Red Dead RAMdemption is wild

[@maxdutiel]

And rambus is now a patent troll

[@andyastrand]

And have been for a long time

[@MathCuriousity]

Im sorry but what’s wrong with protecting one’s intellectual property ? I mean I do think they should be forced to let others use it at a price but u shouldn’t be able to just rip off the IP

[@Minermatt2582]

I remember Linus saying that in the Xbox Alpha I and II dev kit video.

[@patrioticwhitemail9119]

​@@MathCuriousityYou don't know what a patent troll is if you're taking their side, or you are one. A patent troll is someone who files patents on a avalanche of ideas having never lifted a tool to make any a reality, then sitting back and waiting for someone to come up with a similar idea without realizing it and slamming them with bank breaking lawsuits. They do nothing but stunt the rate of technology by forcing you to consult an army of lawyers before doing anything, assuming you even can after the lawyers let you know if a patent troll is sitting on the idea.

[@tomikun8057]

​@@MathCuriousityBecause it isnt their IP. They use loopholes to claim it is.

[@woobilicious.]

Something else worth noting is that all modern hardware benefits from wide busses, the narrow 16bit bus might have been nice in the 90s, but due to latency issues, and the shift to 64bit systems, with SSE and AVX, it's pretty much required to make multiple requests to memory to fill a 256bit wide SIMD instruction, and for prefetching to prevent stalls waiting for memory, Factorio can gain some substantial performance (20%) by increasing the default paging size up from 4KB (only really possible on Linux).

[@AmarDamani]

I am a computer nerd, last night while in bed I recalled RAMBUS RAM & how we needed continuity module, wondered what happned to it, and here we are today....

[@PcItalian]

Had a Dell with RDRAM, a whopping 512MB. I felt like I was on top of the world as everyone i knew only had 128mb with a few with 256mb. But BOY was it expensive. I’m pretty sure it was a Pentium 4? I can’t remember. I sold that RAM for almost more than the PC I originally bought since it was in such high demand.

[@darkstorminc]

I had 128mb of ram in my old 486 back when the PII was the latest Intel.

[@itsdeonlol]

Can you download more RDRAM?

[@danstone_0001]

No, you can't and you need termination cards too

[@helamanmenendez2948]

Yes but it's much more cost effective to download more CPU cores

[@hebl47]

You can try, but Rambus will probably sue you.

[@paulmichaelfreedman8334]

@@helamanmenendez2948 I just download a complete preconfigured machine. much easier. plug and play

[@rentaspoon219]

Why did the name ram after dance dance revolution anyway?

[@NecroFlex]

I went to a recycling center and found an old P4 motherboard with RDRAM, 2x 128MB modules and 2x dummy dimms. Did some brief tests and the results are quite interesting. Sadly the motherboard only supports the early P4's, so no option to use the newer P4 HTs.

[@MrSkyl1ne]

I had RDRAM in my P4, in fact, I still have it somewhere. I even managed to upgrade it to 512mb a few years after buying the PC with 256mb. It cost an arm and a leg. But the PC was actually quite fast and I was very happy with it for years.

[@Aeturnalis]

2:33 skip ad

[@Sujal__Shrestha]

COMMENT BOOSTER !!!!!! This has to stay at top

[@TechnologyNToys]

Unfathomably based

[@sunnyday8567]

Thank You

[@mpettengill1981]

Oh yeah, I picked up a used 1st gen P4 motherboard with RDRAM in about 2001 and that served as the core of my daily driver for ...5-6 years? I remember selling a couple sticks of RAM out of it when I got something newer because the prices on ebay were quite remarkable...and I was smart enough to not lose those continuity modules :-)

[@raingayming6433]

2:12 my keyboard JUST died on me and i see this in the next video, maybe its a sign

[@catcatcatcatcatcatcatcatcatca]

Explanation of double data rate: The clockspeed here refers to the wavesignals waveform, so from rising edge to another rising edge. As far as instruction cycles or logical cycles go the line needs to of course be read twice per each cycle. So in that sense its not double rate. The advantage from using both the rising and falling edge to transfer information comes from how alternating current introduces design problems as the frequency rises. Impedance and phase shift are porpotional to the frequency, meaning it becomes the limiting factor. But if you use both the rising and falling edge to transmit data you still have to hit the same timings on low and high peak, meaning the second bit of information is ”free” as far as designing the bus lane goes. The devices still need to act upon the lane twice as many times as usual, else they couldn’t distinguish between rising + falling edge and no pulse. As far as I understood it they don’t get the second bit of information for ”free”. But that’s fine, because the long bus lanes and their signal intergrity is the limiting factor, not the devices at each end or their logical clock speeds.

[@facebag666]

when I was in highschool I had a p4 with 256mb RD ram. with an ASUS geforce 3 ti card. it was given to me by my friends neighbor who said it was out of an old alienware

[@randyharrigan4790]

I happened to acquire a p4 running rdram about 10 years ago. It was just a case and mainboard missing everything else. The ram was by far the most irritating and expensive parts to acquire. Thanks for the lesson on rdram now i understand some more about it.

[@sfryers]

The semi-official spec PC1066 RDRAM modules were the fastest memory option for the newly-launched 533FSB Pentium 4's in spring 2002. Only problem was these modules were super expensive, hard to find and only a handful of enthusiast/workstation-class motherboards could actually run them at their rated speed. Within just a few months, the launch of dual-channel DDR SDRAM boards made RDRAM obselete.

[@anurag_swain]

Ram bus lol more like ram bus

[@dankmemes3153]

Rombus

[@danstone_0001]

Ram bus more like slow short bus.

[@anurag_swain]

I said what I said.

[@interrobangings]

vrooom screech crash???

[@Zomboy4313]

Into the building

[@regisegek4675]

DDR2 if even longer

[@richieqs7789]

DDR if even longer longer

[@mozzjones6943]

@@richieqs7789 DRAM if even longer longer longer

[@valtarijunkkala]

@@mozzjones6943 RDRAM if you are cool 😎

[@heinritske8256]

@@valtarijunkkala edo ram

[@tinkerersagar]

RDR2

[@nobody7817]

That last line... bad guys who become less bad and finish... ... ... ... eventually! THAT was priceless! This def brought back some memories... thank you for this piece.

[@Betancourtdm]

I had a dell XPS desktop that had RAMBUS. It was so cool. My memory might be mixed up, but I think it was one of the few computers that operated the BTX case form factor which also didn't last long.

[@viccie211]

Fun fact: the N64 is bottlenecked by it's RAM and getting the RAMBUS to go vroom vroom is THE way to get performance out of the N64

[@soggy135]

We need a video from you guys on ReRAM next. Interesting work going on from companies like 4DS and Weebit Nano at the moment.

[@XenXenOfficial]

I had a customer come in asking us to fix their computer that had a Pentium ii and SDRAM 😅🤣 Ended up convincing them to upgrade, took SOOOOOO many attempts to pull data off the hard drive, the drive was just dying 🤣🤣🤣

[@NepuniLokhoInst]

Thank you for the info...! I couldn't understand the whole video but I found it informative...!

[@MajorTomgames]

i used to sell this back in the day, it was immense but expensive / confusing with the blank modules needed. intel released a motherboard with a built in adapter, to make standard pc 133 ram work in a rambus board, as they were not selling, the adapter did not work, and we rma'd hundreds of motheroards lol

[@tim18wheels76]

The biggest thing missing is as I recall had to do with RAMBUS single channel vs duel channel. In the PC world at the time, RAMBUS was promoted as faster, but required the second channel to achieve the best speed. RAMBUS single channel was suggested as an economic solution for budget PCs. RAMBUS actually made budget PCs more expensive and slower than DDR at that time. That single channel made it into almost all PC's that used RAMBUS. That is why RAMBUS was slower in perception and in reality.

[@seancondon5572]

3:35 - see, now THAT explanation makes SENSE.

[@JoeNasr123]

I was around during the days of Rambus RIMMs. They sucked. I still have like 8 blanks in a box somewhere.

[@stonent]

Intel for a bit used PC-133 ram with the P4 before going DDR. DDR was something that AMD latched on to quickly to get a performance edge on Intel, and Intel being Intel didn't want anything to do with something that AMD was pushing, but eventually the writing was on the wall for both PC-133 and Rambus memory and they finally switched to DDR SDRAM.

[@vwbug1975]

In 1999, I started to build my first dual CPU computer. However, with my budget at the time, I stopped the build because of the cost of the RAMBUS memory. It wasn't until 2023 that I finally built a dual CPU computer (just for fun) using pre-owed (cheap) Xeon CPUs. Now, I have a spare computer to tinker with, which has a pair of 18 core, 36 thread (combined 36 core, 72 thread) Xeons. Its fun, and handles everything I can throw at it.

[@billchildress9756]

Before Intel dropped Rdram Rambus came out with 32bit Rdram of which I have 2 modules. Finding Rambus 4800 is a bit of a problem nowadays since then. Asus and a few other MB makers produced boards that used this memory and they only came with 2 Slots instead of the customary 4 that the 16bit modules used and are very rare today.

[@fungo6631]

0:17 Kaze Emanuar: RAMBUS goes vroom vroom

[@LokiCDK]

I wonder if a continuity module would make sense with DDR4/DDR5 for all of these memory busses that have reflection issues if you only populate the nearest slot, or apparently in some systems on new high speed memory, any empty slots.

[@typerightseesight]

back when we all ran xp ram worked entirely different. It was like a cars rpm it only ever ran when you hit the gas and opened a program. like computers idled at like 0-5% ram usage.

[@jameslake7775]

Oh god. When I was in college, I had a hand-me-down P4 with RDRAM to tinker with and use as a light game server. That thing did NOT age well. Even though the world was into the Core i era by that point, RDRAM was still expensive despite being thoroughly obsolete, and also rare enough that it never turned up dumpster diving at the IT department. The "Prescott" P4 that replaced it didn't age well either, for different reasons. Thankfully it wasn't that long until I was able to combine a bunch of Optiplexes (Optipli?) headed for recycling into one working system with a Core 2 Quad and 4x2gb DDR2, and then I was set.

[@0515dem]

I was building systems in 99, and I remember doing total throughput per dollar costs on Rambus vs DDR. I ended up going Athlon, and DDR. This reminds me I made good choices

[@CaedenV]

My first computer build was going to be a pentium 4.... but the implementation of RDRAM with the P4 was very 'bursty'. Very high performance for short stints of time, but poor long-term performance for things like rendering. As I was getting into video editing at the time, this forced me onto the previous gen P3 chips which didn't benchmark as well on synthetic tests, but all reviewers agreed had much better performance for sustained workloads.

[@vladislavkaras491]

Huh... Did not know about that one. Thanks for the video!

[@joester4life]

Remember RDRAM? YOU BET! The N64 Expansion Pak did give you more Memory...which was 4MB. It did help improve graphics, but it was more for Donkey Kong 64 on memory leakage help.

[@jordanwardle11]

Urban legend. It actually utilises the memory

[@MarcABrown-tt1fp]

Kaze Emanuar and his mario 64 mod uses Expansion pak, its pretty nuts.

[@johnellis3383]

DK 64 used it for better graphics and effects like the colored dynamic lighting.

[@davidgoodnow269]

It took _fast_ DDR3 to match or exceed the throughput of RD800. My RAMBus machines are my vavorites, easily. Pairing a GDDR3 AGP card with RAMBus 600 RAM kept my P.C. playing some of the newest and most intensive games on the market for _four years,_ and then only started a slow decline.

[@volodumurkalunyak4651]

@@davidgoodnow269 it takes fast (dual channel of course) DDR2 to exceed bandwidth that dual channel PC1600 RDRAM ever had.

[@davidgoodnow269]

@@volodumurkalunyak4651 Um, no at the time. DDR2 800 didn't exist yet, not even in engineering concept, at that time. DDR3 was off the engineering development board and in production LONG before DDR2 got that fast. DDR2 overclocking eventually made DDR2 that fast commercially viable as a market, for us guys who couldn't afford a DDR3 motherboard! Whereas, RD800 had more bandwidth than the early, slow, DDR3 that _was_ on the market at the same time!

[@volodumurkalunyak4651]

@@davidgoodnow269 single channel RD800 and single channel DDR2-400 are equivalent, dual channel RD1600 and dual channel DDR2-800 are also equivalents in memory bandwidth. RD800 comparable to DDR3 - no way. Good luck finding dual channel rdram boards.

[@Kytetiger]

00:06 'ddr3 if you haven' t gotten around upgrading your pc for a really long time' 😢 Yeah i know, i know 😢

[@paxdriver]

I love ram videos. Can you explain why ram signals can't be multiplexed or why a bus can't be optical where different interconnects can't use the same bus on a different frequency/phase rather than shutting off the bus while it's in use? It's incredible to me how fast Ethernet has gotten so damn fast over the years by doing this, but ram takes massive power and specific slot placement, channels available depending on sticks installed, bios profiles and all that. It seems crazy to me how slow ram is tbh. Also, why is ram built into the motherboard on high end boards? Solder 4gb of hbm next to the cpu and let sticks be added for when that mobo ram fills. Even if it only runs system and os, a level 5 cache measured in gigs would absolutely phenomenal even if only the os used it to help speed up the chipset io. Chipset hbm buffers would be amazing!

[@null0byte]

If you’re talking about straight up throughput, then yeah, ethernet is faster. But that’s where it ends. RAM is _orders of magnitude_ lower latency than Ethernet (a million times lower, to be exact). Ethernet latency is measured in milliseconds while RAM latency is measured in _nanoseconds_. Why is Ram situated as it is? Latency. At that scale of latency minute differences in the length of traces materially impact the latency of one bit vs the next. Traces need to be the same length to keep the latency consistent. CPUs/GPUs need to switch between instructions far, _far_ faster than Ethernet could ever even dream of being able to provide the requested data for. Sure, compared to RAM, Ethernet is analogous to a fire hose vs a squirt bottle. However, try changing the direction of a firehouse as fast as you can a squirt bottle. All that throughput is useless if it takes comparatively forever to retrieve it. Besides all that, Ethernet and RAM are two completely different things, they’re not interchangeable. As for HBM with extra cache, that’s somewhat the direction things are going in, but HBM alone sends complexity through the roof, adding an external cache to the mix just multiplies the complexity to be (currently) out of the realm of practicality for all but the most demanding use cases. There’s a reason those high end boards you mentioned are high end: it’s not due to the presence of it, but rather due to the complexity required to have it there in the first place (and have it work in a beneficial fashion).

[@HarimeNuiChan]

I love to hear about retro tech and stuff like that

[@bland9876]

Not having to buy ddr in pairs is why some computers are slower. Worhout that second stick you don't get dual channel. 1. Some users are not informed enough and end up buying one 32GB stick insted kf two 16GB sticks 2. Some manufacturer only put one stick in their laptop making it preform worse plus they sometimes don't give you an option to add a second stick so you are stuck that way. 😡

[@XJleBuSheK]

oh, a familiar thing, when my friend, working at the university, was replacing old equipment, he grabbed himself several of these modules xd

[@H1rNf1cK]

Remembering my first (and Last) RDRAM-Machine A P4-3200 HT 533 Asus P4T-533R But just 4x256MB RDRAM 32Bit 1066. I would have it till today, but I couldn't find any 512MB Modules for Years. So i sold it, before I lost to much Money. But I loved this machine and from my perspective, it was fast as hell (at that time). But only 1GB of RAM in total couldn't keep up with the needed ressources that came with Windows XP.

[@quagmire94]

i have a few sticks of those sdr, i thought they were just for server computers BUT they just liked to get super hot and their blue aluminum cast was making me want to rip them apart.

[@jaredpierce8477]

In high school, the first computer I bought was a Dell Pentium4 computer with RDRAM and Windows ME. I really got rat-fucked.

[@Videoman2000]

I once had to fix a PC which used Rambus in 2000. Can't remember what the issue was, but it was releated to Rambus.

[@ravagingwolverine]

Most of my stuff is still DDR3. It's okay because I'm a retro sort of guy anyway. Yeah, I went on a bit of a used office-PC buying spree when third and fourth-gen Intel machines were the ones to get a while back. They still do their thing quite well. I remember when all the Rambus controversy was happening. I remember it was not well received on the tech sites I checked. Opposition to it seemed overwhelming from the user side. The nice thing from the user side is that AMD was there to go in their own direction so Intel and Rambus couldn't try to brute force this arrangement once it became clear that no one was happy. As I recall, I got a computer a little bit before, and shortly after all this, so I was able to sit the whole thing out and never dealt with Rambus stuff.

[@abject_fail]

The thumbnail promised me a cool harmonica

[@bryanwashere5010]

I had a dell Dimension that came with 512 RDRAM, from the P4 cpu era. It was incredibly too expensive to upgrade even to the next tier and it always has to be installed in pairs as well. Not a cheap component.

[@neyedol]

First computer I bought with my own money had RD-RAM back when Dell was decent. It was also the first time I installed a RAID controller and Virtualbox.

[@Davethreshold]

Also, the first time I looked at it, it was $800!! BACK THEN. That was real money.

[@xperiafan5370]

0:06 And I just saw a DDR2 laptop on marketplace for sale some hours ago lol.

[@Jaabaa_Prime]

Interesting history lesson. Pity about the audio background "earth" hum, very annoying and not used the LMG having this problem.

[@nobody8717]

"allowed it to run at faster clock speeds" no, it was required to run at 8x the speed to keep up with the baseline minimum that other technologies of the time were able to produce. that's like saying your 8-bit cpu can keep up with a 64-bit cpu, because it can run at 8x the speed, while conveniently leaving out the fact that 64^2 [4096] is greater than (8^2)x8 [512]

[@ShamoaKrasieski-xm4ze]

Rambus made an upgraded version of RDRAM called XDR RAM, which was most famously used as the PlayStation 3's main system memory.

[@CajunReaper95]

Is it crazy that I’ve watched LTT so much I can literally tell when Linus is on a video clip just by his hands? 😂😂

[@donclyburn9497]

IEEE ddr standard killshot this product which was too late in the end , and it had latency in the not so great p4 that proceeded the p4 Northwood core, which was a goat chip along with the athlon xp line.

[@thatzokay]

ram bus goes vroom vroom

[@WackoMcGoose]

_a goomba gets yeeted offscreen_ "BEEP BEEP, MOTHER[KZbin.]R!"

[@itsmenotjames]

finally someone who knows!

[@MCPicoli]

Don't forget that Intel had to do a recall of the motherboards using the 820 chipset using the MTH chip that was hurried to market when Intel noticed that RDRAM wasn't going anywhere in the PC market.

[@MrNerdybird]

RDRAM had been around since way before the Pentium 4 era. Expensive as fuck, but I remember a friend building a dual CPU 200MHz Pentium Pro (the precursor to Pentium II) workstation with RDRAM. He had found a second-hand dual CPU motherboard and a single Pentium Pro processor for rather cheap, and the memory modules became the most expensive part of that build. A lot more expensive than other contemporary RAM sticks. It wasn't until some years later that they seriously tried to push RDRAM to the market, and it then was a quite shortlived fad.

[@drescherjm]

I still have an old 15+ year old server at work with RDRAM. 5 or so years ago I tripled its ram for like $150.

[@lesliejames9404]

I had a slot card Pentium 3 with RAMBUS. I remember overlocking to 500mhz on it and being completely blown away by its mind boggling power. Man those were the days

[@theanglerfish]

Nice

[@Analisede_Tudo]

You could explain Stt-mram , it's like DRAM but non volatile.

[@Sluggernaut]

I learned NOT to shred evidence while in a legal dispute with some of the largest companies in the world. WOW! The more you know.

[@middleagedgamerUKArea]

I remember building a few and testing early P4 with Rambus

[@pr0fessoro]

i remember this and i'm glad it didn't happen... rdram was 16bit (bit faster) and intel wanted to charge everyone for a license, it would have slowed down the progress of computers a lot. Intel also wanted to introduce a "new" atx12vo standard, and I'm glad that the manufacturers didn't fall for those brats who constantly change the processor socket to sell "new" (refresh) chipsets

[@maxschmerz574]

I have some ECC-RDRAMs left in my oldie box. I kept them after scrapping my old PC back in these days because thy looked so unique. EDIT: As i saw the pic of it in the vid i think i have 2 of these continuity modules, lol. I ever wondered why they had no viewable chips on it. But where was then my actual RAM? On the MB?

[@NVMDSTEvil]

There were p3 systems with rambus as well. I have one kicking around..

[@UltimatePerfection]

I am so surprised they're still making Dance Dance Revolution sequels after all those years.

[@AidanMacgregor-Personal]

DDR3 crew (with RTX GPU) 😂😂😂

[@SaltyMaud]

Hmm.. Something like a Skylake/Kaby Lake on a DDR3 mobo - Turing pairing is definitely conceivable.

[@KeoRRRR]

Personally, i7 4770k - RTX 2060 12Gb 😅 But in a lot of games my GPU and CPU can't reach 100% of usage, so I am assuming that it's my old DDR3 that can't keep up. I will soon move to AM5.

[@jaketheoctoling]

Same here. I have the RTX A2000

[@youzernejm]

Pentium 4 was really much faster with Rambus than with standard SDR memory. Due to the exclusivity deals though, Intel couldn't make boards with DDR. Their 845 was a slugfest. That forced them to help SiS make some seriously good chipsets with DDR compatibility. The moment Rambus deal ended, they created the 845D and threw SiS under the bus. Which really was expected.

[@Infinitrium]

Performance be damned, cost is what killed RDRAM.

[@Techcensorshipbot]

I remember this RD ram when I was younger. Those modules got pretty hot.

[@ironsteal]

Excellent videos of haswell, 4th Gen Intel Core i7 can be found on the ltt channel. Have you seen the reviews of devil's canyon? Very informative! Much wow

[@Marcos.ribeiro94]

The computer that i use in my job still uses ddr2, i wish i was lying (the processor was released in Q1 of 2009). We use windows 7, office 2013 and we can't even update chrome.

[@sk8ter202]

I the first computer that i could call Mine, was a Dell pentium 4 (first gen) with RDRAM. Finding ram was fun becuase it came with 2 modules and 2 dummy pairs. had to find matching sticks to the ones i had. Also when i looked to upgrade the CPU they had already changed the socket type in ( gen 2 i think P4), so the only upgrade i could get was from i think 1.3ghz to 1.5ghz. so my next computer i got was an AMD 64 x2.

[@svsguru2000]

I remember just having DRAM. No DDR, no RD, not even SD.

[@kernel_data_inpage_error]

Let's not forget the PS3, which has a the RDRAM successor and managed to get such graphics in freaking 256 MB only

[@acters124]

Thanks for shouting out my DDR3 ram lmao, I think prices are criminal now a days, though I wish I could get high ram capacities that ddr4 and 5 seem to have.

[@komnishura]

Remember the rambus in the early 2000. This made me go for the athlon processor instead because of the cheaper ddr memory. And direct die was the only way ;-)

[@zegamerz1980]

My first PC wad a custom made Dell PC with 800 MHz Pentium 3 and 128 MB of RDRAM. I wanted this expensive config (at the time) to play the newly released Unreal Tournament. Damn I feel old...

[@L.Scott_Music]

I remember telling a friend to invest in RamBus but his advisor told him no. But he put in a $1k anyway on my word. The next day Intel made its announcement, and the stock started soaring. He sold pretty quick and did make about three times his money. He called me, thanked me, and said he owned me lunch next time I was around. LOL.

[@hw2508]

Back in the day I met one person who used RD RAM. The high cost for the system was ridiculous and value must have decreased within days.

[@Aranimda]

I used to have a Pentium 4 1.70 GHz with 256 MB RDRAM. The memory was very fast for it's time. But the processor was quite slow and quite expensive.

[@zizimugen4470]

8:24 is that adjusted for inflation?