Whose Land Are You On? What to Know About the Indigenous Land Back Movement | Lindsey Schneider |TED

Land thrives in Indigenous hands, and there are real, tangible ways you can help return what was stolen by colonizers from tribes across North America. Indigenous scholar Lindsey Schneider addresses the ill-gotten legacy of settler colonialism with an introduction to the Land Back movement: the push to return stewardship of the Earth to its rightful guardians and restore balance to ecosystems for generations to come.
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[@SurfbyShootin]

Currently, a tribe called Blackrock owns alot of the land.

[@mattmccallum2007]

What tribe are they from?

[@theuniverse5173]

​@@mattmccallum2007 Israel

[@rustattack1312]

​​@@mattmccallum2007 they are an investment company. Not actually a tribe and im 99% sure theuniverse guy is an antisemit

[@DoctorCyan]

@@theuniverse5173 Just because the conspiracy is real doesn't mean you need to get antisemitic. That's what they want. It's easy to shut down the truth when they can call you racist.

[@waynechen8912]

@@mattmccallum2007 hes referring to the multitrilling corporation blackrock

[@DennisCambly]

Without love we can no longer look out confidently at the world. We turn inward and begin to feed upon our own personalities, and little by little we destroy ourselves. Chief Dan George

[@CraigMcDonald1234]

How many years do we go back? In Israel, they fight each other because their land was stolen in 200 B.C.E. In 1540 Hernando de Soto met the Siouan in western North Carolina; fifty years later the Cherokee came in and took the Siouan's land. My people lost their land to the Vikings that invaded Scotland. Tell me, how far do we go back in time to fix things?

[@BruceBrewsky]

"Guest on their homeland" Did the Ohlone and Duwamish people pay a "voluntary tax" on the land they took from the previous owners? Or did they take it by force like everyone else ever?

[@Tarathiel123]

There's no historical indication either of those groups fought for their land (in particularly the Duwamish), do you have an historical record saying they took the land? Not for nothing, you are also missing the part where the land is being devastated on the land that FNs were forced on to.

[@leveljoe]

@Tarathiel123 Archeological artifacts reveal war points and human remains that show evidence that the cause of death was homicide. We call that a clue... ...and... The OP is not missing the point, but introducing an additional one that is usually completely ignored in conversations like these. If you want to stay on point, we can talk about the super fauna that was wiped out by the first peoples? This is often an ignored topic too...

[@SooSmokie]

@@Tarathiel123 Do you have anything saying they didn't take the land from another set of people? Thing is we don't know. Indians were slaughtering each other also, so indians took land from each other.

[@kurochi89]

@@Tarathiel123 What makes you think that the United States is incapable of not fixing the land itself?

[@chocomalk]

There were three waves of "Indigenous peoples" over a span of 15000 years....so, who are the "original"? And does it matter? And what is the cut off point to be "indigenous"? And just in case you missed it....they are NOT indigenous if they migrated FFS.

[@leveljoe]

These uncomfortable facts must be ignored, or it will jeopardize the position of "You owe us." Humans are an invasive species in the Americas. So either we all leave or they can STFU. ...End of story...

[@Futuristbillpicone]

Cap

[@robbiedubes]

If I’m on it it’s my land

[@christophersnedeker]

You never leave your property?

[@kathyabeauty]

Ourstanding! Thank you!

[@BR-cr6mf]

Give me and mine more land! Thanks.

[@bluelunarmonkeytarot8533]

Go get it yourself. You know....work hard and pay for it! Lazy!

[@listen2meokidoki264]

It is complicated. And probably the worst wars ever were at the start of agriculture. When the clash between hunter gatherers and settled farmers started.

[@s3tione]

I totally agree that what happened in the past is terrible and I also agree that we should be treating the land as a relative. I have concerns about what Land Back, or unsettling, looks like scaled up because these ideas don't seem well thought through. Are we talking about a slow migration through attrition of non-indigenous out of North America? This leads me to a point of disagreement: that this is the only way to protect the earth. Seems like a better solution is one that involves all of us, not just a special collection of cultures and peoples. With that said, might there be a way for non-indigenous people to join in land stewardship instead of simply leaving?

[@derekbsheldon4861]

Yeah, I wish there were more solutions presented that were fundamentally inclusive. I'm incapable of paying land taxes and I don't believe I owe my property to indigenous people because colonists took it away. I'm not responsible for that, but I would like to help these efforts. Obviously pipelines are necessary for efficient logistics, but are there safer alternatives? I hope in the future we can be more inclusive.

[@Lizzieverse]

Bottom line is we can only learn from past mistakes and do better in the future. Makes no sense to punish the people alive today who had absolutely nothing to do with these past atrocities 🤔

[@rustattack1312]

​​​@@Lizzieverse NO ONE WANTS TO "send the settlers back" this is just old made up BULLSHIT to change the conversation

[@rustattack1312]

​​@@derekbsheldon4861 NO ONE WANTS TO "send the settlers back" no one wants to take your property or house. this is just old made up BULLSHIT to change the conversation

[@stephoso]

No, because while our people were being literally scalped to death on bounty, Asians, Hispanics and Blacks were free to mine for gold in the west on our land. Inclusivity is just another excuse to not hand over the land to its rightful owners. Go research, Native Americans were in hiding while Asians, Hispanics and Blacks were free (with discrimination) to roam the west. Just like Native Americans should never interject themselves into talks about Black Slavery Reparations, I hope other races give us that same right. Every other race has its own lands. The whites (Hispanics) - Europe. The Asians - Asia. The Blacks - Africa. I don’t think we ask for much by simply asking for the National Forests to be handed to us.

[@homewall744]

Yes, regular people make no use of the resources "the rich" uncover and put into products and services. We all just sit on dirt and eat what we hunt and gather between songs and dance. While some of these groups are doing great, it's absurd to pretend that only natives restore lands, and certainly not that natives make no use of modern life.

[@ec-qe6kq]

+1

[@asdfqwertyzxcvful]

"the land is better off in native hands" sounds an awful lot like the original claim that taking native land was justified because European settlers made it more productive

[@zr1129]

the moral grandstanding this roleplaying white lady did was insane.

[@jonmoreno9939]

Awesome

[@paulgraham5790]

I spose the “indigenous” people have forgotten the systematic genocide of the Denisovans and Neanderthals? And it either happened on the land you are on or on your way to it.

[@Futuristbillpicone]

Cap

[@ZOMBIEHEADSHOTKILLER]

all land, belongs to all people..... the world is for all of us, not just some. It dosnt matter where or when you were born, the earth is home to everyone. Its time to grow up and act like it.

[@leveljoe]

You're willing to give away all you have? Prove you don't own anything and start by giving away your phone.

[@ZOMBIEHEADSHOTKILLER]

@@leveljoe does any of what you said have anything to do with anything i said, or anything in the video?........... nope, it dosnt...... learn how to stay on topic

[@leveljoe]

@@ZOMBIEHEADSHOTKILLER It looks like you're not ready to grow up!

[@ZOMBIEHEADSHOTKILLER]

@@leveljoe it looks like you are incapable of basic conversations.

[@brad5426]

@@leveljoe you don't know what you're saying

[@rtrevas]

Nobody should have a claim on land, the earth should be everyones land and everyone includes all living species

[@Futuristbillpicone]

Stop the white cap

[@vallee7966]

I have a property in Portland, OR. I want to LandBack to the tribe that was here, the Multnomah, but they are gone. There’s like 20-40 families left and they are part of Warm Springs. There is no Multnomah tribe left.

[@krux02]

I just want to know how much native you need to apply for land back? Is it important to have a certificate for the purity of the blood?

[@PhedelCastro]

Sounds like the mantra of a group that formerly ruled Germany

[@cjstolfa5748]

blood quantum is actually a problem within the native community, while im not native myself, try googling it and see what you find. also, i think the land wouldnt be given to individuals and rather the tribal government. hope this helps

[@DoctorCyan]

If white people in Oregon are giving land away, all the sudden I'm the last descendant of the Eaglefart band of the Nuutsaque tribe, part of the Can'ta-Fordrent Nation.

[@Nuck-Fo0bZz]

I'm not saying it's right, but powerful civilizations have ALWAYS taken land from those weaker than them. Your argument, if taken seriously, would probably go back so far that it would be impossible to do. Not to mention impractical. I'm sure there are tons of examples of indigenous people taking, violently by the way, land from weaker peoples. What then? I don't own land, but if I did I think voluntarily paying tax and getting rid of it when I died instead of passing it on to my relatives would probably be the last thing on my mind. Even if it wasn't originally my land, that doesn't change the fact that I paid for it. Is somebody going to reimburse me for that?

[@May-gr8bp]

perhaps First Nation people in the US should have large swathes of land, 1% or 2% of the US countryside?

[@leveljoe]

@@May-gr8bp They already have 2% of the land.

[@Nuck-Fo0bZz]

@@May-gr8bp idk. Maybe. We all know how that works though. "Here's some land for you guys that we took back in the day." *20 years later* "oh we need that back for a pipeline and you can go screw yourself if you don't like it".

[@BlueSideUp]

We see examples of where it leads to if someone wants to go back in time to some convenient, random point in Ukraine at the moment. You could argue for decades over Israel and Palistine, or launch rockets at each other like it's actually done. We will see a lot of conflicts on this with climate change, if we don't let go. The good news is: it gets more comfortable on earth with moving to a human accelerated warm period. Not like some confused people spread a risk of extinction, that would be a cold period, e.g. caused by a supervulcano eruption. The bad news: It will get more comfortable in different places than today and someone always already claims those places. As that's inevitable, we might just want to start thinking differently about "land ownership". Typically, regular people owning land worked and paid hard for it, still pay taxes. They couldn't and shouldn't care less about the ancient history of that place, there won't be any without ownership changes by war, theft, murder, etc. Also not under indigenous tribes. If we don't draw a line on those discussions, those will kill us. Like the Russians exercising their perceived right to Ukraine and more by nuclear force. Would that make everybody happy?

[@Nuck-Fo0bZz]

@@BlueSideUp land has always changed hands through any number of means. This ladies argument goes nowhere because there was always a group before any one group took the land. No sure what you mean by global warming making things more comfortable though. Any videos or references you could shoot my way to back that up? Genuinely curious.

[@KonniWynn]

yes

[@americanalah]

RIP Ted talks lol

[@potatocornsplease2383]

???

[@CraigMcDonald1234]

Why don't you give up your house first, then ask your friends and relatives to do the same.

[@ujdd201]

If we weren't all speaking English, it'd be French or Spanish...get over it.

[@geoffrobinson]

A conquered B conquered C conquered D …

[@elimartinez7704]

But we’re not talking about conquest here.

[@jaerockchalk3216]

@@elimartinez7704 yes , yes we are LOL

[@elimartinez7704]

@jaerockchalk3216 we actually aren’t because that isn’t when the land taking occurred

[@geoffrobinson]

@@elimartinez7704 did they lose the land in a poker game?

[@elimartinez7704]

@@geoffrobinson they lost the land from government takings

[@carolchen3585]

great

[@boiling_snow_water_]

you listening Calgary Flames?

[@ben8147]

She gives basically one “why”, but never a “what”. Is it all land? Land of cultural significance? From what time frame, and what about land with contested claims?

[@elimartinez7704]

All of this is discussed in many papers and essays. Go do the research instead of asking questions into the void

[@ben8147]

@@elimartinez7704 for someone who’s knowledgeable, summarizing that would take maybe one paragraph. If it’s something I even halfway cared about, I’d be happy to do it.

[@elimartinez7704]

@@ben8147 because there are many factors and a lot of history weighing in, that would be superfluous, considering you can just find the same info on google.

[@RHR199X]

I think it would be on a state by state, regional basis is how I realistically see It going, alot of the crappier reservations may become to be obsolete and left behind as said tribes on their reservations have access to their original homelands again but it’s too large of a situation to say. In short it would be a huge internal geopolitical reorganization within North America and beyond. Just Greenland alone gaining independence from Denmark woild make it the first Native American controlled country on earth.

[@asdfqwertyzxcvful]

Good point. I've watched several videos on the landback concept and none them gave even a 10000 foot description on how it would actually work. I think giving some land might be feasible, but it would have to be done in an inclusive way that recognizes that "colonizing" people who have lived here for generations have a relationship with the land too. I get the sense that a lot of these guys just want all the white people to disappear.

[@eyb0ss317]

Who’s land am I on? Does this lady not realize that 99% of Americans today didn’t choose to live, never mind choose to be born where they had? Maybe she ought to go deliver this speech in my local colonial era graveyard

[@RiverReaperr]

Im on deer and coyote land

[@555Mark]

Should I give my land back to the tribe that lost it to USA or the tribe that tribe stole it from? I mean following your logic, should tribes that conquered other tribes give the land back they stole?

[@elimartinez7704]

No because it isn’t about conquest actually

[@XImpaler420X]

"Hey guys, I want free stuff" is my takeaway from this.

[@elimartinez7704]

Well that’s because you’re uninformed.

[@user-sh2fy2nc6m]

​@@elimartinez7704 the speaker did not make any valid, practical, or reasonable points at all.

[@babe101103]

There were many tribes all through America and most of those tribes were at war with each other, you'll be surprised to know. Can we TED talk about that?

[@boiling_snow_water_]

can you talk about genocide?

[@RHR199X]

The worst native wars are insignificant compared to manifest destiny

[@Futuristbillpicone]

Stop the white cap

[@alishathompson5282]

I think a lot of people have a hard time with the concept of land back because we are a culture obsessed with ownership and possessing things. We don't really own anything, we all die and borrow the world from the next generations. The people who decided genocide was a good idea are also profiting massively from killing the planet and making everyone more poor besides a select few. Practicing capitalism the way we do is toxic and we don't keep a good relationship with the earth. We see everything as a usable resource. There's a large disconnect. Instead of defending why all cultures of the past have practiced genocide, why don't we make a better future knowing that's not how we should progress. Learning to give back is common if you take!

[@tommyswimmer8921]

Vine Deloria Jr. has a good theory about the temporal vs. spatial. Christianity is more set in when things happened rather than where they happened, this treatment of the Bible gave way to a conquest frame of mind to spread the word of God, since God was seen as universal no matter where you came from. Indigenous perspectives treat the immediate phenomenological frame of reference as God. The 360 degree perspective of a human being is considered holy, therefore there is no need to spread a message of God, because God encompasses everyone's experience. Certain spatial experiences are considered holy as dictated by creation stories, where you can physically observe where the stories were located. These concepts of spatial vs. temporal metaphysical theories have caused rifts between the two cultures, which has clearly left indigenous nations feeling unheard and partronized.

[@steeldriver1776]

I'm part Cherokee, among others. Mixed race. Natives practice "right by conquest" long before Europeans came to modern America. Lands conquered became hunting lands, women taken as wives, tribal members of opposing forces as slaves, and animals become the conquerors livestock. American conquerors are among the few in the world to defeat and then set aside self governing lands to those who've lost. Among the many problems with land back is that those of us who still respect "right by conquest" are now assimilated. Every male in my family has served in the US military. We are born with inherent rights, but also under certain laws. To disavow those laws is to deny them all, meaning, I can also just come take your land, or any reservation, if I choose to. Be careful you don't get what you ask for. Also, there are so many unplanned and unaddressed questions... Who do we turn over our land to? The tribal governments who were 99% male and women were property? How about the millions of products and jobs European conquerors turned capitalists have built? Do you/we then owe them for the use and profit of such products?

[@zr1129]

They don't have a hard time. They'd rather not give into original sin like guilt tripping.

[@Davelantor]

Let me ask a different question ... whose land were they on ? And whos land were those people on ? And so on and so on ... To assume that territorial expansion somehow didnt exist beforehand is the attitude you must use to make such argument.

[@elimartinez7704]

What does any of that matter here?

[@itsjeninMass]

My husband and I don't have kids, and we don't think his sisters want our farm. We were looking to leave it to a land trust, but instead, we're going to do this. He's part Kanien'kehá:ka, and though I'm white and Jewish, I have always been very sympathetic to indigenous people. I truly love these people. To be part of Land Back would be a great honor.

[@shadytoast5565]

I’ll take it

[@aerialcombat]

@@shadytoast5565 no, no you won't

[@shadytoast5565]

@@aerialcombat i mean yes i would

[@heitorq7795]

Liar, you live in a basement.

[@user-cq8hw3ni7g]

😂

[@danielhmanning]

Thanks for listening to my ted talk about being a steward of the land. Now if you'll excuse me, my Escalade is double-parked.

[@extrospective]

But what about who was there before the tribes?

[@tomasgomes]

Nonsense, obviously only white people have committed atrocities across history 🙄 (Just in case some don't get it, I'm being sarcastic)

[@Futuristbillpicone]

No one.. stop the white cap

[@yourhungrycoyote]

GIVE

[@legod1976]

Instead of this landback idea, why don't tribes offer land management and treatment services?

[@elimartinez7704]

They do.

[@ThePawcios]

I'm from Europe and I do not understend why she is talking about indigenous people globally... isn't that issue only in US?

[@Kongolox]

it is a global issue, for example: Australia, Brazil & Palestine, and many others.

[@manupeni]

Not true, My ancestors lost our land to English and Germans. They bought large portions of land with Axe, salt and tobacco. Today, we cannot get our land back. Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬

[@ThePawcios]

@@manupeni What does it mean you ancestors lost these lands? If you mean they exchange it for axes, salt and tabaco, this is what we call trade. Someone paid them for it, now you consider it was not fair but it's not fault of current owner. Here she was describing situation of stealing land by force. To me, your case is not really applicable

[@manupeni]

@@Subliminalsapper no its not there. They cheated. An Axe for land! Tobacco for land. Honest people will not do that. They cheated! It was not trade at all.

[@a907k9]

Marys igloo,ak is stolen land also here in alaska at pilgrim hotsprings, ak we were forcibly moved from our homelands and stealing our resources all because it's a natural geothermal hotsprings

[@Futuristbillpicone]

R.I.P. to my Grandmother who survived the Native American Genocide, she's the reason im still here and our enemies are European settlers.. say it how it is.

[@henrycollins2478]

I imagine it was no one’s land. Then someone took it, then it was taken again, and again. Then Europeans did.

[@glenjennett]

I agree that what happened hundreds of years ago was a terrible thing and I'm not trying to belittle how the land has suffered, but I'm not sure exactly you want people now to do about it. We can't change the past. No one alive today is responsible for what happened in the past and no one alive today suffered the atrocities of those past events. I was born in this country and have lived here my entire life, that makes me a native of this land, regardless of where my ancestors in the distant past originally came from. You say I should give back to you what isn't mine to give and what never actually belonged to you either. If you go back far enough, the original tribal people of this land were not the original "owners" of the land either. your ancestors migrated here just as mine did. Land doesn't belong to anyone, but it belongs to everyone. Instead of trying to guilt people into giving back something they never "stole", let's work toward sharing the land together. If you feel that others don't know how to treat the land, work towards teaching them instead of placing blame and trying to guilt them for something they had nothing to do with. This isn't YOUR land, it's OUR land, as in all of us. We are all part of the same world and it doesn't matter where we all come from or who was here first. We are all here now. Leave the past where it belongs and let's all work on what we can do now to make the world better moving towards the future for everyone. The world is in such turmoil enough as it is, we need to get passed this kind of thinking that we are somehow separate and start coming together in unity. If we can't do that, the world and everything in it will continue to suffer.

[@sashimi6889]

There was no guilting involved in this presentation. If you feel guilt in response to what she said that is more of a reflection of how you feel about this. Maybe that is a call for you to address why you feel guilty and face your own truth? History is always important and the only reason you would want to hide it is if you benefit from its erasure. She never said once you need to leave the land you are on, and it seems like you are projecting a lot onto this wonderful presenter, who is an expert on what she is talking about! Take a breath, tend to your own emotions, and let indigenous peoples guide us into harmony with the land.

[@elimartinez7704]

You say all of this as if there aren’t pit mines placed SPECIFICALLY near indigenous lands to poison their water. You say this as if we haven’t created forced famines. You say this as if the last boarding school closed long before 1983.

[@pacmonkruz9846]

Question - what if I want to join a native group?

[@nefreetman]

I believe you can present any genealogical evidence to the tribe(s) you're descended from and ask them what your options are. NPR did a segment on this a while back.

[@pacmonkruz9846]

So I can only help or be part of the group only based on my race ?

[@nefreetman]

@@pacmonkruz9846 Anyone can offer their skills to work for, volunteer, support, assist or help indigenous people and groups with any number of tasks or goals. If you're looking for *membership* in one or more tribes, you would naturally need to be descended from one of those tribal members. You can "help" without "joining. Those are two different questions.

[@pacmonkruz9846]

@@nefreetman ok

[@user-cq8hw3ni7g]

​@@nefreetmanno they should be allowed to join the member ship since tribes in past took British and Spanish as tribe member s

[@anFy81]

land has been stolen but since then the land has been transformed and the situation can't be compared to a status hundreds of years ago my family in Europe was driven out of their homes in Europe several times I got over it

[@Tarathiel123]

Did you not watch the video? Her point is about land sustainability and treating the land better and how indigenous peoples the world over take care of land and be called on to help.

[@chocomalk]

All humans not in Africa are migrants and therefore not indigenous.

[@leveljoe]

@Tarathiel123 The indigenous peoples abused the land too. Are you not familiar with what an invasive species is? Because that is what we are outside of Africa. To "make it right" is impossible without erasing every trace of our existence, or do you only want to make it "sort of right"?

[@anFy81]

I think a big part of "living in harmony with the land" is simply a result of lacking the level of technology to cause an impact.

[@aleenakhan6230]

​@@leveljoe I'm sorry but Indigenous peoples simply do not have the same kind of relationship to the land that others do ... the European philosophy has increasingly become very commercial-driven and capitalistic due to the industrial revolution, and even before then, the Earth was being bleed dry because it was seen as a resource. I mean, a huge reason colonies were established were because of the immense amount of resources that could be transported back to Europe; this was a financial thing. Obviously, Indigenous people aren't gods who bless the Earth just by walking on it, but you cannot argue that they impacted the land in the same way that it was post-colonisation. It's not even on the same level

[@jovmirija6175]

Yeah, I mean Zimbabwe and South Africa....she should know something.

[@rampantmutt9119]

The main reason that so many look at LandBack as weird is not because it is impossible. Land has been and continues to be given back to Indigenous nations, but in small quantities. The real reason is because colonialism has been so throughly normalized to the point some folks forget Indigenous peoples even exist. But they do exist, and the Americas are theirs.

[@bluelunarmonkeytarot8533]

There's already historical evidence that there were people living here before the "native Americans" so it doesn't belong to them either.

[@huntfishexplore7636]

They benefit from colonialism every day. If they want to live primitive that might make sense. But literally colonialism is the whole reason. We enjoy warm houses with plumbing and electricity cant have it both ways

[@elimartinez7704]

@@huntfishexplore7636 warm houses with plumbing and electricity were invented hundreds of years after the conquest so I don’t know what you’re saying here.

[@elimartinez7704]

The ONLY land that has EVER been given back to any tribe is Blue Lake, returned to Taos Pueblo by Nixon. ALL other acquisitions were purchases taken into trust (or fee simple in the Pueblos’ case)

[@huntfishexplore7636]

@elimartinez7704 colonialism brought technology of the time, and continued to... here in Canada reserves have or are supposed to have plumbing and electricity, paid for by the government of Canada, so taxpayers.

[@user-ub1gz8lx8c]

No one truly owns land. It is nature you can't own it. You fight and control land nothing more. You lost against the British the land is now inhabited by other people. Get over it.

[@Futuristbillpicone]

Stop the white cap

[@darrend5741]

I identify as a Native American/First People. I am open to anyone giving “my” “land back”. Thx 🙏🏼

[@user-cq8hw3ni7g]

😂😂😂

[@user-cq8hw3ni7g]

Buddy that land belonged to me before the natives

[@alonawhalen]

Actually, I'm sitting in Slab City. Most people write myths about this property. Reality is this partial of land was once reservation. It was cut to pieces in the late 1800's Native Land grab. Reservation land, that means land that was pretty worthless that was "given" to indigenous people so we could steal the rest of the better land. As a bonus, we made laws and took more land. If people really looked into where this land came from, they might see Slab City is just taking back what was stolen in the first place.

[@cjstolfa5748]

im a white person who lives in MN, and I think the Land Back movement is a great idea that should be considered much more than it is. We're in a climate crisis induced by greed, if there could be leadership that actually cared about the land and our future as a society, i welcome them with open arms.

[@bluelunarmonkeytarot8533]

Lmfao they don't actually care about the land. They just want to kick you out. Yes the climate crisis is being manufactured by the rich globalists.

[@tlungzen1192]

Maybe if you gone it will help the earth

[@user-sh2fy2nc6m]

​@@tlungzen1192 same with you.

[@EveryoneIsFamily]

Excellent Presentation!!!

[@marsbolcan9311]

3:01 "but that's why land back is not about indigenous people trying to run a real estate scam" 7:23 "so look up whose land you're on. Some tribes ... have a way to pay a voluntary land tax on their website..." And later on again it's suggested to give up land in people's will when they die to indigenous people. Sounds like a real estate scam to me

[@sbailey977]

Here is the reality that has governed all of humanity, everywhere, always. The land belongs to who ever has the strength to take it, and hold it. The idea of traditional custodians of land is nonsense. The land would have been fine without any human interaction. 'Native' people are survivors, not custodians. They exploited the resources to the best of their abilities for their own survival.

[@marc10101997]

If I'm standing on it, it's my land. Try and take it.

[@victoriaman117]

The Ute, Cheyenne, Arapaho, Apache and Comancheria were all mortal enemies who killed each other whenever they had an opportunity. They did not live in harmony, they did not acknowledge each others borders (they had no concept of such a thing) and they worked with Europeans when they arrived to conquer their rivals until it was too late and they themselves fell victim to them as well. Please stop painting a picture of world history that never existed. It doesn't make colonialism right or excuse atrocities, but it is the truth

[@QveenXsiren]

Negative

[@elimartinez7704]

Ok? That’s just a few tribes out of 574 recognized tribes plus more. Plenty of stories diverge from what you cherrypicked here.

[@chucknorris1920]

What about Hawaii? Maybe give that back America

[@pondholloworchards]

Quit paying your taxes you'll figure out real quick who it belongs to

[@geoffrobinson]

Correct answer

[@aerialcombat]

Trump did that exact thing, what's your opinion on that?

[@pondholloworchards]

@@aerialcombat We are not in the same category as him it's a big party and we are not invited

[@geoffrobinson]

@@aerialcombat Trump paid exactly what he owed. Don't bring up Trump when he's not the topic of discussion challenge: impossible!

[@darrend5741]

If it’s “yours”, lawyer up an take it back. Or maybe “take” it back the way it was “taken” from “you”. Ridiculous TedX….

[@ftapon]

We tried feudalism and bloodline-based inheritance for thousands of years. Our current system is imperfect, but it's better than giving land to people based on genetics.

[@tuitaco]

Seen this take a lot, I don't know if I agree or not. I do however feel that this take is awfully convenient for the colonial powers have already stripped the land off indigenous people all over the world.

[@leveljoe]

@lulu_loser First, you'll need to explain how/why the land belongs to the "indigenous" considering humans are an invasive species in the Americas?

[@ftapon]

​@@leveljoe Human are an invasive species in every continent outside of Africa. And assuming mitochondrial Eve existed, then we invaded 99% of Africa too. We're all descendants of immigrants. Nobody is native.

[@leveljoe]

@ftapon Looks like you've got it! We can own and show dominion over our surroundings because we exist. Society has well established guidelines for this. If we are going be expected to foolishly acknowledge those before us for their "ownership/stewardship", then we (as you said) only need to mention "Adam and Eve". The world belongs to them first.

[@ftapon]

@@tuitaco depending on how you define colonial powers and indigenous people, I think most analysts would say that there are very few places where indigenous people did not recover their land. The Americas and Oceania are main exceptions. And the main reason the Europeans were able to definitively take over that land was simply that they had immunity to smallpox and other terrible diseases.

[@MydogTobes]

Yeah, the Crusades happened 5000 years ago and the land “belonged” to them too….

[@Zenfix1]

Oh, my God, what a story, beautiful cutie 📃📃📃📃📃📃📃📃📃📃📃📃☺️

[@Htebya]

Everyone is native to somewhere except for Europeans who alone are called on to diversity their societies

[@samaelmalkira9420]

It's less about diversity and more that when y'all see a person slightly darker than alabaster you start frothing at the mouth and sieg heiling

[@michaelpuckett6612]

Come take it, go woke go broke 😅

[@Stormclowe]

... Ok, Elizabeth Warren. Let me know when you give up your home and land.

[@elimartinez7704]

Who is asking for anyone’s home and land?

[@aidanfarrell1926]

Stop clapping at random moments Jesus…

[@ishockeyfrilla]

I guess I'm indigenous. I was born on the soil I spilled blood for. I respect it.

[@pXnTilde]

I bought my land from the government, who bought it from someone else. Maybe at one time this plot belonged to some natives but whom did they steal it from? Native or not, we're all vicious humans. But I didn't take it, and now it's mine. And that's okay.

[@brad5426]

Amen

[@elimartinez7704]

The government took the land from the natives after promising it to them in treaties. Then it gave free land to white people (while specifically excluding indigenous people from being able to acquire homestead land) and did not pay the indigenous people for it. What do you call that if not a taking deserving of compensation? How can it be a conquest if they were already within our borders by treaty?

[@crustmuskandpixiedust]

I'm for landback, as a potential solution to decolonize the mind, heart, and spirit and establish and encourage proactive ecological participation and accountability in communities. But the U.S. is rooted in colonialism. I would like to see an opportunity to non-native to be "assimilated" or better... initiated into native communities, as landback initiatives receive the native territory which already has people living on it. Policies and programs to get those borders back, and an option for non-natives to be integrated into native communities, under native law, and paying taxes withing borders, and having the ability to steward the land and pass it on within the community... or.... paying a higher tax, not being a part of the community, and keeping full U.S. citizenship and just "renting" native land and it going to the native community after death of current occupant. The problem with non-natives, is that if natives continue to get back their land, there's going to be a lot of outsiders, and it will expand the divide between native and non-native descendants. I understand that a lot of natives want to keep their blood as pure as possible, but their population has suffered a lot, and mixing is necessary to continue their legacy. Blood quantum is another challenge, because in the corporate, profiteering eyes of the U.S., they are just patiently waiting for native communities to loose that genetic connection to the past so the U.S. can seize the rest of their land. Which is why it's so important for landback to be successful, swift, and strategic, so that the next generations have a future to look forwards to. Landback is the opportunity for the people to take back the land, and get back to the land, to steward and protect it from the expanding profiteering U.S. empire. It is the opportunity for the people to come together in unity, stand up to corporations, unjust policies, and a corrupt, backwards, government that had every opportunity to do the right thing, and still today, chooses not to. It's up to the people. Can we work together? Is a better world possible for all?

[@jdarst100]

And who did they take it from?

[@Yithmaster]

Sorry but it was purchased or conquered. I'm not sorry that a People Of hunter gatherers who claim that you couldn't own land lost to an industrialized agricultural society

[@elimartinez7704]

Conquered how?

[@danielhughes4451]

If they want it back so much, why don't they just take it? Maybe they're just weak.

[@tee57449]

i have much respect for the content that I'm hearing here as an indigenous tribal member however I am most curious to know the reason for rarely ever hearing about indigenous northeastern people . im forever hearing someone saying telling shouting at me to gooo home .. I am home , I'm a descendant of ten generations before me and my heart is very sad and it bleeds we all bleed 🪶

[@doricetimko332]

❤

[@tee57449]

@@hubrisnauty comment to you somehow just disappeared , after writing it I came back to read and it was gone . It was after the , telegram , message below yours , very odd indeedy

[@tee57449]

@@hubrisnaut I'ma Passamaquoddy Indian 🪶. Very Naughty Narcs

[@tee57449]

@@hubrisnaut yes .. a very clear prospective of conciliation for me as well

[@leveljoe]

You are not home! Humans are an invasive species in the Americas. Nice try though...

[@tommyswimmer8921]

“The white man does not understand America. He is too far removed from its formative processes. The roots of the tree of his life have not yet grasped the rock and soil. The white man is still troubled by primitive fears; he still has in his consciousness the perils of this frontier continent, some of its fastnesses not yet having yielded to his questioning footsteps and inquiring eyes. He shudders still with the memory of the loss of his forefathers upon its scorching deserts and forbidding mountaintops… But in the Indian the spirit of the land is still vested; it will be until other men are able to divine and meet its rhythm. Men must be born and reborn to belong. Their bodies must be formed of the dust of their forefathers’ bones.” - Chief Luther Standing Bear

[@BrianMcInnis87]

Indigenous means born into. All humans are indigenous to some locality. Land is not born and so is not indigenous. The word you seem to be looking for is aboriginal ('original inhabitants'), but land is not that either. Land does not belong to anyone, but any organisms can and certainly do pretend to possess it.

[@leveljoe]

We do possess land.

[@johngerberjr.3571]

Love how you put that!

[@DylanRay1234]

@@leveljoe No you don't. You possess a piece of paper which affirms your delusion that you can own the land.

[@leveljoe]

@dylanthompson5400 Wrong, the concept of land ownership is widely accepted throughout most of the globe. Who owns it is the only thing that might vary. So, I actually own the papers that say I own the land, and I own the land itself. Are you an adult?

[@DylanRay1234]

@@leveljoe A large number of people believing and accepting something doesn't make it any less of a delusion. If you had a piece of paper that said you owned the moon, it would be equally as delusional regardless of how many people agree with you.

[@jayw6831]

7:51, i got told to “go back where i came from” before, unsettle in that way!

[@aristochat3]

I hope you feel the same way about Palestine.

[@nefreetman]

Boycott. Divest. Sanction. ✊

[@brad5426]

No one cares

[@Brandenburg-Poznan]

And Scotland, Northern Ireland, wales, Brittany, Aragon, Navarra, Basque Country, Galicia, eastern Anatolia, Transylvania, banat, Kosovo, Sudetenland, Cornwall, all of the many cultures in Siberia, Lapland, Tibet and while we’re at it split India up into a ton of different countries and I have to go so I can’t finish this list unfortunately

[@IqbalKhan-lm4vb]

I am from india . i can standard english but i can not understand the pronunciation of ted talk .could you please add the subtitles along to video.

[@technolus5742]

There are captions

[@brandon3872]

Turn on CC.

[@IqbalKhan-lm4vb]

Thanks a lot

[@mrnice7570]

The land owns itself, you just walk upon it.

[@oddlyme9659]

Preferably without slaying those met on the pathways.

[@leveljoe]

...walk into my home and I'll explain who owns it in a way you'll understand, and no words will need to be spoken. Somehow I think you already understand this, it's just that you don't like your current balance.

[@mrnice7570]

@@leveljoe the land been here for billions of years and will be here for a billion more. You will love no more than 100 years. You own nothing. If anything "your" land owns you. Whilst I lay claim to no land and sk the whole world is mine.

[@leveljoe]

@@mrnice7570 Look at you being all philosophical... Just because you own nothing doesn't mean that the rest of us don't. I can't say I've ever seen you out here working the ground...

[@mrnice7570]

@@leveljoe look at you desperately trying to defend one acre, completely oblivious to the fact it ties you to it till you die 😂 the land owns you 😂😂

[@huntfishexplore7636]

Im really sure a different corrupt government is just what we need lol.

[@user-sh2fy2nc6m]

Maybe the "United States of Russia" one day?

[@asbestosrecuperation]

Dinosaurs called - they want their stolen land back.

[@rustattack1312]

Nah they called because they needed the 1/10 of their brain they lent you so you could form that comment. Because your head is obviously empty

[@wenjunetanedo5371]

Great movement "LANDBANK" this is the vision of the Philippines Indigenius i.e. 'Traditional land be return to the IP ICCs now!

[@wenjunetanedo5371]

Meaning LANDBACK Now!

[@kevinguyan522]

Globally planned, regionally organized and locally executed planetary actions

[@TarkMcCoy]

"My ancestors got ripped off by invaders..." Get in line. So has everybody else, you just have to go back a little farther. Apparently your Kung Fu wasn't strong enough.

[@yaaxiik]

🪶

[@Raygun9000]

Right of conquest. The basis of property rights, you own what you can protect. The indigenous classification is odd. I'm an indigenous Briton, do I count?

[@elimartinez7704]

It’s not conquest.

[@Raygun9000]

@@elimartinez7704 just local fauna? 😬

[@elimartinez7704]

@@Raygun9000 wow so the response to being simply incorrect is to double down on racism

[@Raygun9000]

@@elimartinez7704 what you've just said is very ugly. I assume you haven't thought it through(it's only a comments section). I was suggesting you thought there was no conquest due to there being only fauna during settlement and establishment of property rights.

[@TheRealBozz]

Grow up and be serious.

[@user-cc5od3zk4p]

FNs in Canada get a ton of money from the white taxpayers. I’ve worked for two bands and it’s always the same: always demanding more money. The abuse of tax dollars is mind blowing. I am not a ‘guest’. My ancestors came here and worked hard. Indigenous people were not treated well and suffered tremendously however, that was a long time ago. Until they stop living in the past, they will not move forward.

[@LEV1ATHYN]

I'm on my own land that I paid for, thanks for asking. Land doesn't belong to people as a right of their racial background.

[@vesawuoristo4162]

Only reason you could buy it because original people were driven from it. We have to accept the facts.

[@LEV1ATHYN]

@@vesawuoristo4162 History is full of winners and losers. Rather than complain about it and demand something based on your ethnic background better to work hard and buy your own. I'd be interested to know where you live. If you live in the America's and your family history extends to other parts of the world, are you planning to stay?

[@JohnDunne001]

Assuming the land owner who sold the land acquired it 'legitimately.' This video is about land taken during colonialism times, often by force.

[@technolus5742]

Stealing doesn't grant rights. Inheritance of rightfully owned property does.

[@thinkbeyond3457]

@@LEV1ATHYN what a polite way to say the very typical and tired "go back where you came from", which many European descendants can do as well, and are typically better resourced to do so. Unless you are native blood to the Americas we all descend from somewhere else. Of course mass migration back is not a reality, so the discussion is more about some form of reperations for past injustices which continue to have generational effects. If someone broke into your home, brutalized and vandalized your family and belongings they would hopefully be arrested, tried by the courts, and while nothing may be able to repair the damage done to your family, you should receive some help and compensation to get back on your feet. In this case the judge said "here's a couple of bucks, and we are letting the burglar keep your house". Fair? Of course not.

[@entabeni1337]

The opposite is true here in South Africa, its the settlers that brought knowlegde, technology, law and order. Return of rule over the land to the indigenous only caused havoc, theft and destruction

[@JN-wr9he]

Do you call apartheid ‘law and order’? For whom? If you are honest, you will mention how the white rule dismantled the millennia-long law and order.

[@jollyrogerq]

Its called being conquered . Happens throughout history. Not your land anymore

[@mrgelvis]

Exactly, Mr. Putin thanks you for clearing this up.

[@ItzHoot]

@@mrgelvis Or George Washington.

[@BruceBrewsky]

@@mrgelvis Mr. Putin is learning what happens when you can't keep what you take. Don't pretend like this is a gotcha 👌

[@elimartinez7704]

If you knew our history at all you’d know that conquest isn’t the correct term here.

[@hope9808]

I am not an American, but I can say that the is nuts 🙄

[@mrnice7570]

No, she is absolutely spot on here

[@hope9808]

@@mrnice7570 can you lead by example and give up your land. If not then shh. If you don’t have one like me, then I see why you want others to give up their land

[@09dobo]

What if your land was taken by immigrants? Then abused by those immigrants? What would you want done to make things right?

[@yaaxiik]

🪶

[@sayonaragaming9071]

I suppose everyone is here to improve listening 😂

[@RomyArms]

It was never the natives land. They didn't own any of it. You cannot own land you cant protect. I'm getting sick of this

[@luckyjim51]

Where dose it start and stop. If you have people that travel a foot from the stream to the hut. you cant screw to many things up. But add horses to ride over and war with your neighbor you have progress. People enslaved and commerce. You can wish for yesterday. But that day is gone. Enjoy today and make your world a better place....

[@pacmonkruz9846]

Colonist definitely would treat land like a relative.

[@creatorschild8247]

The earth belongs to NOBODY! You’re very arrogant & self centred if you think a certain group of humans owns the earth or any part of it. 😉

[@crym77]

Oh, she's a professor. It all makes sense now.

[@PerpetualAlfa]

This woman epitomises “Queen of the black people”

[@user-cq8hw3ni7g]

😂

[@user-cq8hw3ni7g]

Actually she did it because she got paid

[@jeckwhite9099]

If you want the land, do as we did. Take it. Or buy it. Otherwise stop asking for handouts.

[@elimartinez7704]

How is this a handout?

[@jerrymiller9039]

I am on the land I own. Also white people did not kill any Indians here. On tribe killed and drove out another tribe about 30 or 40 years before whites started settling here and that tribe abandoned the area because they thought it was haunted

[@mrnice7570]

You do not own the land, the land owns you

[@jerrymiller9039]

@@pupax2000 Nobody was living here and nobody knows which tribe was the original inhabitant. Regardless they were long gone and had been replaced by multiple tribes. There are 537 tribes recognized by the US and likely there were far more over time. Yes they fought and took land from each other so no indian can claim to be indigenous.

[@eileenmc4746]

oh pleaseeee

[@ClockworkAvatar]

@@pupax2000 that is called conquering, standard operating procedure for 99.9% of human history, and the answer is you can try, that's how it works.