Home warranty fails again !! R22 freon leaks not covered

[@channell11]

To get a home warranty company to replace a unit you have to get the service provider to play ball. I had one that came with my house purchase, and it paid for a new water heater, a couple minor HVAC repairs, a new heat exchanger for one unit, and they were going to replace the other one. Really all it needed was a heat exchanger as well, but the contractor submitted for a replacement on account of age. The warranty company agreed, but the code updates were going to be super expensive, (on top of the 3000 bucks I'd have to pay on top of the company's money) so they cut me a check for $3100 and I replaced the heat exchanger and burners myself. I've canceled the home warranty and now just put away the cost of the monthly membership into savings for unit replacement when a unit ultimately goes out.

[@JerrlEvans]

When my R22 system leaked, the AHS contractor told me that AHS would not fill past some arbitrary level. The contractor said that it would cost $700 to fill it completely. I told him to just leave. I took the payout and bought my own Trane unit and cancelled AHS.

[@scotta9114]

Speaking of R22. We were at an Estate Sale and in the garage was a jug of R22. Weighs 26 pounds on a scale. The Guy sold it to me for $1. I'm not an HVAC Guy but knew that green jug was worth buying.

[@Samlol23_drrich]

And it's filled with 25# of nitrogen and 1# of r22. But seriously great buy!

[@jefferyb304]

With our Nordyne furnace and Rheem AC add-on, we have spent approx. 300 dollars for 2 service call and plus an upgrade to a basic electronic thermostat that I successfully completed. All over the course of around 15 years. I think one would be better off putting the money spent on a home warranty into a rainy day fund.

[@Straight_White_Fatherly_Figure]

Exactly. Save that money for when you do need to spend more then $1k on your system

[@AvgDan]

Between mine and my wife's car purchases, we've saved tens of thousands by opting not to purchase extended car warranties from car dealers.

[@andreeriner811]

I see you install Trane, I used to way back in year 2000. I don’t do them anymore, their not my favorite by any means and when I pull up at a house and walk around and see a Trane I’m not usually super happy. Don’t get me wrong, their a good machine built well, I’m just not a big fan.

[@TedCookHVAC]

Everyone is anti something .... myself, I am anti Ford !! Thanks for watching !!

[@bobboscarato1313]

@@TedCookHVAC Ha ha; I drove Fords mostly and when I bought a Chevy in 82, it turned out to be a lemon!

[@bobboscarato1313]

I also changed servicer when he said he hated Fords!

[@Garth2011]

Usually insurance of any type will not pay for the cause of a loss but will accept the secondary damage caused by the initial cause. Example, a water heater leaks one night, homeowners wake up one morning and there's wet everything surrounding the water heater. Home insurance will not pay for the water heater but will pay to replace/repair the water damaged items.

[@andreeriner811]

I’ve repaired many a leaks in r22. It always depends on a lot of factors. One being what the customer wants to do of course. Obviously if it’s to hard to do I don’t. But if it’s something I feel confident I can do and it will hold I repair them. I realize when you pull up to a house like you were at chances are they can afford it, but a lot of people can’t and those are the ones I try to help the most.

[@VentShop]

Yeah, sadly the home warranty crap is more of a pain than it is worth a lot of times. They cover the water lines "after" they enter the home not before. Have a leak between the house and the curb, you gotta pay it. Sure they cover appliances and stuff but by the time you figure the cost of a replacement vs paying a fee and a deductible among other things you would have been better off sticking the cash in a mason jar in the back yard. Not to mention that most of the time the warranty repairs are often contracted to the lowest bidder who honestly is going to most often rush the work since they get paid crappy. Was at a friends place in Phoenix and replaced the water line from the curb for about 300 by the time they paid me a few dollars for doing it while they were gone. The cost to replace the line was quoted at 3000 for the pro and 700 for the handyman to fix after tearing up the concrete. Was easier to abandon the old line and run new outside of the sidewalk than to tear up the concrete and then patch it back. When they got home after being gone for a couple weeks the humidity was unusually high and with the suitcases and such coming in the condensate pan overflowed because of cyanobacteria in the drain line. I sucked the line clear with a shop vac and then poured some bleach down the line from the inside and told them they needed to do something similar once a month or so to keep the line clear. Crawling in the return was ohh so much fun but it kept them from needing to have the home warranty company come in and tell them they didn't do water related repairs either... Simpler to get the water cleaned up and put a little bit of drywall compound on it and then paint it anyway.

[@jmgrefrigeration4000]

Ductwork is so important even more so than the equipment. People don’t get that, you could have the highest quality unit but if the duck work is poor the operation will be poor. Too many contractors put in a nice trans unit and hack in the metal or should I say flex

[@taj4l]

I agree with you Ted, R22 major repairs are definitely not worth it. But it’s always nice to let the customer have their options. I had a customer with an R22 unit from 1989 with a horribly caked motor and indoor coil with a compressor that’s close to dying and recommended replacement. She would rather pay 5000 dollars to repair as oppose to somewhere around double that to get the entire thing replaced. They were weird. Lol

[@waynespringer501]

"If you look back and add up all the times you've paid to add freon you could have got a new unit" OR He could have hired a different HVAC tech that on the FIRST freon add spent 10 minutes of his $100/hr the customer already paid with his beeping sniffer tester and replaced a leaking shrader valve for pennies saving the customer from HAVING TO KEEP ADDING FREON EVERY YEAR!, but that's what none rip offs do.

[@maxeyac]

Thats funny. Before you said it I was thinking, rich folks are the hardest to get money out of. Thats why they are rich... lol

[@jblyon2]

My Mom used to be a customer service rep for the local phone company. When they were tasked with calling up delinquent customers trying to collect payment the vast majority were in the wealthy neighborhoods. They just would not pay until they got the shutoff notice.

[@scottfrench3354]

John KING Agreed it’s all about status. They want there friends to think they are doing so well. But actually they are broke. I had a customer who lived in a million plus home. Needed new A/C’s he just told me he couldn’t afford it because that stupid house takes everything he has. Dumb on his part to try and be something he wasn’t

[@picklerix6162]

About 35 years ago, I remember that I fixed a leak on a walk-in cooler for a wealthy customer who owned a nightclub. I went down to the office to get payment and the owner had a stack of money in front of him that he was counting. The guy literally had thousands of dollars sitting in front of me and refused to pay. I went back up onto the roof and cracked the flare nut that I had found leaking earlier so that the refrigerant would leak out slowly again (This was before recovery units were available). The owner called me back about a week later and told me that I had not fixed his walk-in. I told him that there was no warranty on unpaid service calls and hung up on him.

[@jonparreno7140]

Jaw dropped as soon as you showed the supply and return. hack job

[@rockydennis8926]

Nothing wrong with adjusting the charge or topping it off but when you add over 2 lbs to a system it’s worth noting that the system is definitely on its way out ... that being said adding refrigerant seal to a system is a band aid on a bullet hole and most of the time they don’t work ! Throwing leak seal into a system would be my last resort if the customer is elderly medical or children in need of ac ... some of these ICP’s like to leak at the evap coil w multiple micro leaks !

[@tphvac87]

Leak seal can clog txvs as well I do not use anymore

[@JJ-Toreddie]

"Gunna go back on his own as he puts it." That had me rollin😂

[@bobberger918]

Had a water log boiler home warranty told me it won't take long he said he use to it I said why the last couple. Didn't fix it he said go ahead never say dirt rust lack of pm they say no pay

[@dixiebrick]

Hey how can somebody who has no experience in a/c get in on this warranty scam business?

[@jefflarson155]

Best possible situation, easy condenser change out. Coil was rated for 450 psi, 410A no problem. Though I would’ve tried a sealer in the refrigerant, I’ve had great luck with that stuff. Upstairs probably isn’t under sized, just working harder because downstairs isn’t working. That’s my opinionated a glance, hope it worked out for you

[@justinkappelman433]

" oh boy .. the spaghetti octopus " lmao!

[@renaissanceman4267]

Not gonna waste your time on fixing a R22 system..not everyone can afford new equipment..I would rather fix it than replace it...I would much rather do alot of small service calls than spend more time on a install....

[@TedCookHVAC]

To each his own... Thanks for watching !!

[@renaissanceman4267]

Just my 2 cents😁

[@animalcorvair]

depends my friend ask me to check his ac ,,in his mind it was low on r22 i went over an told him him how old it was 37 years old i would not touch it...unit was running at that time 3 days later the unit went bang .. i said time for a new one ..glad i did not try an charge it r22 is on the way out anti is right

[@samuelsech2278]

By the time your done with your little service calls, you could of had a new unit

[@Garth2011]

You will take more loot home, thats for sure.

[@TheWoodman064]

I just worked on a system and the guy told me the same thing! His home warranty did the same thing to him! He was out thousands by the time they finished with him!

[@matthewmiller6068]

It's also not covered when they find no leaks, so I learned when our landlord had to fix the heat pump here...I think the guy they sent claimed it was upward of $150/lb for R22 and said it needed like 8-10lb of it when I asked for my own curiosity.

[@jamiesaye701]

R 22 is an interesting business situation for sure. Should you repair then retro fit the refrigerant? should you replace the equipment? Should you gas and go? So many options! People have no problem upgrading to a new car though and going into more debt for that. But the AC hell no.

[@screweduplife14]

This post should be on the news lol

[@throttlebottle5906]

the A/C doesn't "get" them to work and back..........

[@chrisfoxwell4128]

If one had watched enough of these videos they fear getting the Yugo of hvac installs. Nothing worse then buying something and then trying to either chase down the installer or shell out more money. Some people need a Mercedes and some people are fine in their '94 Toyota that uses a little oil.

[@joshbenson8039]

R22 units are a price vs cost sale. The price of a new unit vs the cost of having to deal with the fixes related to the age, higher electrical bills, missed rebate opportunity, cost of the home warranty etc. The price of a new high efficiency unit covered under a new warranty out weighs the cost of dealing with the old R22 unit and spending for a lame duck home warranty

[@throttlebottle5906]

most likely leaking at the service valves, assuming those are threaded line fittings.

[@pineychristian]

Someone is proud of that horrible install. The gas line, the duct, low voltage hanging and drain just crazy. People take no care or pride in their work.

[@cutehumor]

I have a home warranty. It depends on the HVAC guys they send out. I had a leak in a 2000 trane xb1000 condensor. in 2014, First HVAC guy sent out, gas and go. told me I needed R410A unit. After two days, all the freon leaked back out. I did another callback free of charge, if not fixed in 30 days. Guess what? the lineset connected to the low/high copper pipe had a leak. All was needed was brazing to seal the leak. the second HVAC guy saved my bacon. He brazed the pipe and recharged R22 system. it's been 4 extra years and the system is running great ever since

[@emprsnm9903]

Sometimes I think it might be how the HVAC tech phrases the issue to the warranty company. Simply saying 'leak' or 'slow leak' and the warranty company balks. Saying 'broken line' and 'brazing/repair/recharge vs system replacment', and bingo, covered! But thats just a guess. Because they are just chart readers on the end of the phone afterall.

[@picklerix6162]

Most HVAC guys won't take the time to look for a leak, even an easy leak for fix.

[@Garth2011]

@@emprsnm9903 Every time that is true. The tech needs to know how to communicate with the claims rep so that in the end, the customer is back to having what they had.

[@cambamthelowman8584]

You could atleast locate the leak. I hate people that go out and just try to sale a new unit.

[@TedCookHVAC]

Why look for a leak on an R22 unit ? Waste of time and money... customer's money that is !!

[@cambamthelowman8584]

@@TedCookHVAC I get it man. You gotta sell those $8000 Trane systems.

[@MrTrailerman2]

@@cambamthelowman8584 its not really TRYING to sell anything. It is about adding/selling value instead of bandaid repairs. I had a guy spend $1500 for a compressor replacement on an 21 year old lack of maintenance R22 10 seer 2 ton system. I refuse to do anything major on a system that old and this guy paid my competitor to change the compressor last year.... moving forward to yesterday get a call from the same customer who says airs out and he can't get ahold of his guy. An inch of water in the bottom of the blower compartment every thing soaked... no filter blower wheel plugged gas valve soaked..roll outs soaked with rust water and the evaporator completely plugged.... i again advised him not to sink money into this POS.. his reply "but I just spent $1500 last year on the compressor " my response was I guess you got some decisions to make huh. Our job is to sell value and I applaud Ted for not committing to being married to an r22 system and be on the hook every time that thing breaks down.

[@JohnDoe-vf8cw]

If I was in your situation, where he's not going to change the units or want to do a leak-check. I would try putting in the quick seal stuff and see if that stops the leaks. You got nothing to lose by trying it

[@doddgarger6806]

Future service calls...

[@JohnDoe-vf8cw]

@@doddgarger6806 well you just charge them for that next service call. Let them know it may cause more issue beforehand.

[@cgirl111]

Do manufacturers cover refrigerant leaks?

[@TedCookHVAC]

usually just the part yes.

[@TheWoodman064]

The more I hear of home warrantys the more I do not like them for the way they treat their customers!

[@bobboscarato1313]

They are a big ripoff and heavily advertised on TV..!

[@markstevens6682]

Holy crap, look at that Installation............lol

[@MikeSmith-og5mg]

I hope you get the install

[@LX-cg1oi]

Now in 2022 you wouldn't be feeding r22 since it's $1600 a jug

[@raulsanchez2407]

Have started a site for unbiased home warranty reviews. If anyone wants to give feedback on their experience here's the page: Thanks in advance!

[@isettech]

Are you current on the EPA-608 certification? Size of a leak and the requirement to fix it is in the certification.

[@TedCookHVAC]

Not residentially ... read it again.

[@isettech]

@@TedCookHVAC Good point. I've only been doing chillers and not residential units.

[@boby115]

@@isettech , Comfort Cooling system with over 50 lb of refrigerant, and your annual leak rate cannot be over 10%.. Commercial Refrigeration system with over 50 lb of refrigerant and your annual leak rate cannot be over 20%. Industrial processing Refrigeration equipment with over 50 lb of refrigerant and your annual leak rate cannot be over 30%.

[@isettech]

@@boby115 I have my EPA 608 certificate. I passed all 4 sections of the universal certification. It is in the exam. Please note, the low pressure systems and high pressure systems have different requirements as one has a purge valve and the other is hermetically sealed.

[@boby115]

@@isettech , yes I as well have the universal certification, I was required to take it in the early 90s and I recently took it again just as a refresher this year ( 100% score on all sections and I don't remember what I scored in the 1990s ). So my question to you is what does a Purge unit on a low-pressure Chiller at the top of the condenser or hermetically sealed compressor have to do with the 50 pound requirement?

[@bobberger918]

Spider box duct installer likes foil tape

[@Moudaddy12]

Dude. Have check the condenser fan motor? It looks like it’s spending a lot slower, perhaps that’s maybe the reason head pressure is high besides a dirty condenser coil

[@adambell2068]

Moudaddy12 it’s likely an optical illusion due to the frame rate of video. Have you ever seen the video of the helicopter that looks like it is hovering but the rotor appears to be sitting still? Check it out if you haven’t. If the frame rate is 60 frames of still images per second and the blade of the fan crosses the camera lens at around the same time or close to it every frame, then the blades appear to be moving slowly or hardly at all.

[@Samthe17]

They should have put the main duct in the ceiling and then branched off.

[@dano1234v]

Yes that is definitely the ugly ductling

[@andydelle4509]

Two units off the same disconnect? Who approved that?

[@DaveVanWest]

That enclosure has more than one 2 pole breakers. Completely NEC approved.

[@andydelle4509]

@@DaveVanWest My apolgies. Yes, that's fine. It looked like a single pullout.

[@adambell2068]

What’s your record for number of consecutive years to re-charge a R-22 system for a customer before finally convincing them enough is enough?

[@TedCookHVAC]

I have some over 5 years in a row for sure.

[@rockydennis8926]

It’s sometimes a good way to keep a customer under your thumb so when you do go back to that job and the compressor finally took a crap or the leak had become progressive enough that it leaks out as fast as it comes in they will most of the time use your service to make the change out !

[@Garth2011]

Those customers are also likely the most concerned about being green and planet warming yet they let their R22 leak and leak as its the cheapest method.

[@summersdw1978]

I dont understand why you always say, Its not worth fixing. So, if its a bad compressor , or lets say a bad condenser . Surely they are cheaper to replace than having to buy a complete new unit. I know there's a labor charge involved in replacing a item. What am I missing ?

[@TedCookHVAC]

In my opinion it is not worth fixing something that has no warranty and frankly no future. R22 products are obsolete, the manufacturing of them has been outlawed since 2010, now the manufacturing of the refrigerant itself is outlawed as of the beginning of 2020. Therefore the only repair for example to replace coil‘s, requires buying a new style coil and converting it back for compatible use with the obsolete refrigerant.... It would be very easy to spend half of the money for replacement doing a repair to a machine that has no warranty and is also obsolete and outdated. Therefore that is why I say in my opinion when I repair is not economically sound, it is just not worth doing.

[@jameschrisdavis]

Everybody wants something for nothing.

[@Sctronic209]

Had one last week r22 4 1/2 lbs. not sure what the leak rate was they just wanted it working crawl in attic to boot.

[@renj6531]

The home warranty isnt giving anything but grief and $ 100 / lb , its not liquid gold.

[@RG_sssSMOKING]

Good job Ted

[@ConservTab-sv3kx]

Don't bump into the chandelier on the way out

[@biggysground]

You didn't check for leaks around the service valves as the fix could of been easy. You could have spent a few minutes checking with the sniffer. THUMBS DOWN!

[@scottfrench3354]

If someone installed something like that here in .Fired instantly what the hell is that mess

[@samuelsech2278]

Properly installed duct systems are hard to find....

[@chadhartsees]

That is one ugly install.

[@SalvadorHVAC]

Gas and Go til the Gotta Go ! Tbh what are these types of customers going to do come 2020?

[@throttlebottle5906]

most likely start to burn the politicians and epa at the stakes :))

[@isettech]

There are several retrofit gasses that can be used with the change of the compressor and expansion valve that are compatible with the oil type. Plagiarism below copy paste. For the air conditioning applications the best choice available in the market is R-410A and for refrigeration applications the best choices are R-404A and R-507. For any particular refrigeration and air conditioning application, the EPA maintains the list of the refrigerants that can be used as the alternatives for R22. EPA has made it clear that the refrigerants being used as the alternatives for R22 cannot be generally used directly in the existing equipment as “drop-in” replacement without making the modifications in the system.

[@RayRay-nb7tn]

Did you ever check the core valves or put bubbles on any of the fittings?

[@doddgarger6806]

People just don't realize how easy 99% of appliances are to replace and usually have great financing options for most people

[@skyym3629]

If it were my unit, I would just add leak sealant and hope for the best. If it doesn't end up stopping the leak, I would just add the R22 once every couple of years until I have another major failure.

[@JohnDoe-vf8cw]

I commented the same thing before I noticed you wrote the same thing

[@skyym3629]

@@JohnDoe-vf8cw ..... Great minds think alike, lol. God bless bro.

[@JohnDoe-vf8cw]

@@skyym3629 Facts lol that is Definitely true

[@thornmountain8129]

International CHEAP Products!

[@sknight0391]

He's "obviously" a very "smart" man 🤔

[@Eddy63]

Good vid Ted ...

[@ronniehvac653]

With all due respect, aren't you concerned about the EPA watching you add R22 to a system with a known leak?

[@TedCookHVAC]

I will do it right in front of them... there is NO law that says I can not. You're quite mistaken if you believe there is.

[@ronniehvac653]

@@TedCookHVAC I was under the impression that it was a violation to do that. My bad. Again, with much due respect.

[@picklerix6162]

Here is the official EPA ruling. Beginning January 1, 2019 owners/operators must now identify and repair leaks that exceed 30% for industrial process refrigeration (previously 35%), 20% for commercial refrigeration (previously 35%), and 10% for comfort cooling (previously 15%) within 30 days of when the ODS or substitute refrigerant is added.Mar 2, 2017

[@boby115]

@@picklerix6162 , For systems with 50 lb of refrigerant charge or greater. Let the EPA watch there's no way this system has more than 50 lb

[@TheWoodman064]

Hello! Again!

[@acechoice45]

Wow 100 dollars for a pound for R22 i only mostly do commercial HVAC/R work and i charge 50 a pound lol plus their guessing how much gas they adding to the system total rip off lol!

[@TedCookHVAC]

I agree 100%

[@pineychristian]

Were i work going rate for residential for R22 is between $140 to $180 per pound depending on what companies you call for service. Commercial is $80 to $130 per pound.

[@RobertoRodriguez-uk7yv]

Yeah around Houston Texas, you are looking at $100 to $120 per pound of R22 on residential. That's from a company, now if you find some random guy that does work on the side, not insured or license, he might do it for way cheaper.

[@Garth2011]

The large commercial condensing units use ammonia, correct?

[@hvacinva1148]

Never heard of one not covering “refrigerant leaks” maybe he bought the low end coverage. Most of them in my area will cover them. Not sure that you’d get a reputable contractor to repair/replace tho 🤙🏻 thanks for sharing.

[@brosephgnarballs]

Home warranties vary. I've had some cover sealed system repairs when there's a leak, and others don't. 2 weeks ago I found a cracked heat exchanger, customer had a home warranty for 3 years and they would not cover the replacement. In my experience, the home warranty companies just hire customer service agents that are trained to turn down claims, at all costs.

[@Jon-hx7pe]

Topping off is illegal in all developed countries aside from the us. Going from 3.5 to 5 tons, would probably have to re-do the ducts and the not keeping up may be caused by not delivering full capacity to the space, between airflow issues and heat gain into ducts. To say a unit isn't worth repairing (even if the problem is electrical) just 'cause it uses r22 is nuts. I would be more concerned about efficiency, overall condition and cost of repair vs replacement than which gas it uses.

[@TedCookHVAC]

If you don't like "topping off" I suggest you don't do it..... The top floor of the house has 19 supply registers, 18 of them have 6 in ducts, 1 in master closet area has a 4 inch duct.... 2 returns, both 20x25 grilles, one has a 16 inch duct, the other has a 14 inch duct.... also 1 return in master bedroom with a 14x20 grille and a 10 inch duct.... the gas furnace is a 5 ton drive and the coil is a 4 ton, the outside unit is 3.5.. the house has all 9 ft ceilings with a 10 ft in the main living room.... total main floor footage is about 2450. It will not cool the house in extreme weather because it is undersized. In my opinion an R22 unit is not worth repairing when it has any major issue within the refrigeration system... especially leaks. Your opinion on this is apparently different than mine.... Thank You for watching !!

[@Jon-hx7pe]

You must be in a brutally hot climate plus have poor construction in your area, plus high attic heat gain into the ducts to have 3.5 tons not keep up on a floor that size even with high ceilings. The electric usage must be crazy. It gets up into the low to mid 90s where I am and from the limited stuff I've seen, spaces that size cool well with like 3 tons, for normal ceiling height, probably closer to 2.5. Metal ducts in conditioned space plus having houses built for the cold works wonders. Assuming it's all flex, I imagine for a 5 ton to work with 1800-2000 cfm would need at larger ducts, a 6" flex only flows like what, 60 cfm? 70 cfm. Hope it's not common in your area to just drop in a larger unit without doing a load calculation, measuring conductive duct loss (supply air at coil vs registers) and static pressure. I imagine if it's already at a normal level like 0.5 to 0.8 for 1400 cfm won't get proper airflow with a 5 ton. Videos like these are interesting because people get to see how things are done in different parts of the continent. The indoor part of the install is absolute crap, betting corners were cut on every other part of the duct systems for both units. The "return drop" is a gem.

[@pineychristian]

@@Jon-hx7pe building codes very depending on where you live in USA. I see a lot of crap homes being built all the time. We as HVAC contractors have to condition the space according to what we have to work with. I just sized a home that was built in the 1800's. It has no insulation in floors and very little in walls. Guy spent all of his money making it look good and now wants AC in home. So sizing system to what you have to work with is a must

[@Jon-hx7pe]

"Guy spent all of his money making it look good and now wants AC in home. So sizing system to what you have to work with is a must" ^This is the problem. It's a shame that in this market, contractors can't work more holistically with the owner to reduce heat gain/loss in the first place. It's an after-thought. I blame the stupidity of the general public. Women are worse than men in this regard, putting cosmetics above all else and if it's a couple you know who makes the decisions being it what home to buy or what to do in a renovation and is always right. This doesn't just affect insulation -> pot lights are popular and it takes two to four times the same light as a regular fixture to get a decent effect. 50W a piece unless LEDs are used. They're installed in attic ceilings and reduce r-value and raise leakage even when done right. What good is a house that looks "nice" if it costs a fortune to run and is uncomfortable? US houses are probably worse than canadian ones, our codes are better.

[@joemas848]

@@pineychristian what ? Then do your job. Everybody else has a job so do yours and maybe I'll do my job at work that keeps this USA proud and moving well also. Go Trump

[@donnierobertson3088]

Good job

[@scottyates8783]

Gas and go's are ok but don't rule out the air Filter before you add R22

[@SalvadorHVAC]

Yep last week at a customers house I didn't stop at the filter. I decided to look at the coil because the return duct looked caked with dust when I changed the filter out for the customer sure enough A coil was plugged.

[@morristim1]

High superheat rules out a dirty filter

[@scottyates8783]

True... but why not make it a habit to check filter and coil does not hurt to double check

[@TheProAer]

In the next 10 years were going to see lots of problems with the R410a coil killer causing oil leaks.

[@dano1234v]

What about bluon r22 replacement, do you know much about that, they advertise it to make you compressor run better

[@znrctrnn]

Offering insurance that doesn’t cover a leak. That’s BS. Sometimes more government regulation needs to exist.

[@skimask3]

11:42 correct we keep telling them that.

[@MrTrailerman2]

Most customers are like junkies ...looking for the quick fix. Capacitors contactors and smaller inexpensive repairs but most of the time these older systems have reached the maximum life and are not going to somehow miraculously start saving the customer money after each repair.

[@phil955i]

R22 hasn't been phased out there yet then? It's been unavailable to buy here in the UK since 2012. I guess you guys don't have as much of a conscience about ozone depletion, especially topping a system up knowing it has a leak.

[@pineychristian]

Sorry buddy EPA and government makes our laws. We just play by the laws they make. What refrigerant you guys mainly using now in UK. I use a lot of R407C for retrofit R22 systems but some people don't like doing that. I also use R422B. I have had a lot of success using them

[@phil955i]

@@pineychristian Not having a go mate, I know you guys have no choice but to go with your own country's legislation. I don't recommend R407C to retrofit R22 as R407C is designed to run with POE oil & you'll end up with all manner of problems. We were using R422B & R417A as retrofit drop ins for R22 but even that's been phased out recently. So any R22 systems we come across now that require repair now get condemned & is ripped out & a R407C system gets installed.

[@pineychristian]

@@phil955i sir i use R407C with compressor change outs. I'm very aware of retro procedures and extremely experienced at doing so. I work in a large school district with Trane WSHP and big Mcquay roof tops that some of my units take over 100lbs of R22. I maintain and repair 500 ++ units all were equipped with R22 when new. The problem with R422B it has a 16% capacity loss . R422B is great cause it can be used with any oil. R407c used with poe on compressor change outs only lose 4% capacity. Big difference.... You need to watch where you use R422B because of the capacity loss

[@pineychristian]

@@phil955i I'm not aware of any country you can change laws at will. Thank goodness they slowy phase out R22 cause it would cost school districts or any companies millions $$$ to just change units or immediately change refrigerants. That would effect tax payers directly and they would be pissed!!!

[@phil955i]

@@pineychristian yes I understand & again I'm not having a pop directly at you, I just don't understand why the United States has lagged behind the rest of the developed world in this department after first the Montreal Protocol, then the Kyoto Protocol. I'm not a tree-hugger BTW ;-)

[@clintglasgow5633]

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[@markmckenna5709]

Ted, very true with a home warranty business. Now they want to know what kind of preventive maintenance that was done. Mark McKenna Tucson, AZ

[@markmckenna5709]

@@gibhvac No, I never lived in Charleston. Lived in Sumter, SC from 1970 to 1974.

[@realisticjman]

id just put of a can of stop leak and be good go instead of just gasing it up

[@TedCookHVAC]

LOL @ stop leak ... I never have and never will use those type of products.

[@realisticjman]

Anti DIY HVAC I've had some success and some failures with it , for the price its always worth a try , not sure what you have against it

[@TedCookHVAC]

What I have against it is, putting contaminants in the system never helps.... I would say it would be useful if it worked in a situation where it got a system in service for a short time until it could be changed but only if the lines are exposed and able to be changed as well... however, this system has the lines behind sheet rock and I would rather flush lines and keep them, rather than adding new ones that are unsightly.

[@Akvan79]

Anti DIY HVAC I hear more bad things about stop leak then good. Plus I have never seen a KZbin channel use stop leak in his videos lol. I just think stop leak creates more problems then solutions

[@DaveVanWest]

Only used it on package units, have an account that has 20 of them, mid 80's Carrier heat pumps. We schedule change-outs a few times a year, have about 15 more. Leak stop is not a repair. It is a band-aid. Remember, a bandage doesn't stop a hemorrhage.

[@joemas848]

Braze and fix homeowner unit , your are licensed technition dummy

[@michaelcastillo3231]

Joe Mas , and u r horrible at grammar and texting accurately.

[@joemas848]

Wish I could redact my statement as this was a good informative video on AC to watch. I previous replied he did not braze the brass just like how they always do copper in cooler like in stores. But I'm no tech just commented to get his goat.. sry man . He came back that I'm no good at texting accurately well he right about that as well . Good luck I'm no HVAC man and man watch what u say on sites that you may watch watch! !!! They are in business thanks. Pls do not haunt me!