Carrier Gas Furnace unsafe hack job butcher sabotage

[@rosewoodsteel6656]

I know you're anti DIYer, but you seem to find many, many more hack jobs from the so-called pros... You're a good man and do quality work. Thanks for your videos.

[@HVACGUY]

You did the right thing. I wouldn’t leave that running either. Gas line, flue pipe, and position were all hack jobs. Sometimes I don’t believe what I see.

[@thornmountain8129]

Ted's using a 100$ bill to clean the flame sensor which is 100 times better than a 1$ bill. LOL

[@chadlevitan7886]

Crisp $50’s and 100’s genuinely work better. He’s not showing off, he’s just doing it right

[@kthwkr]

I think it was 5th grade when I was taught hot air rises. And then my teacher added that therefore I should never install a furnace on it's back.

[@yellowdeer7163]

I bet the home inspector never showed up or was never hired.

[@zackmax7184]

Evidently they didn't have a Home Inspection or they Bribed The Home Inspector.

[@kevinpoore5626]

It takes a real technician to condemn a unit and stand behind his reason for there are some out there just too scared to stand up for what's right. Keep On Keepin On

[@lfowkes11]

I can see that flex gas line getting a hole rubbed in it by sheet metal where it passes into the furnace as well.

[@wizard3z868]

ya and i being a spark didnt like tht romex and with no connecter too to rub on tht sharp case🤦‍♀️🤮

[@ATSNorthernMI]

@@wizard3z868 Being in the field so long, you get to see a lot of stuff that makes you scratch your head and take an afternoon fixing it right. I had to explain to the boss many times about how its going to take 4 hours on a rental slum lord job to replace lamp cord, that was used to feed the kitchen recepts, been so hot the insulation just turned crispy and after 10 years it finally shorted out and blew a fuse.

[@seang.2046]

Not in code to run flex gas line into cabinet

[@rando_webb8704]

That pressure hose was rubbing on the inducer wheel and that needs to be moved away. If that wears a hole through you'll end up with another issue latter down the line. But that really doesnt matter, because that furnace was never designed to be mounted that way.

[@DamnYankeeWorkshop]

I love watching you figure out the problem with each job. I am mechanically inclined but no HVAC guy, and I could see the potential problem with the burner issue you were thinking might be the problem early in the video. Being naturally curious (lol) I found the manual for this model online and lo and behold, it says it is prohibited to mount this unit on its back with the door facing upward. There is even a picture with a big circle with a line across it. Hmm. Keep up the good work. I am only 5 minutes into the video but I had to stop and make a comment. Install was a hack job.

[@scottk0623]

Terrible problem to have,only having a $100 bill to clean it . I bet it cleaned it twice as good as a $50. 😂

[@rando_webb8704]

Or just bring some emery cloth so you dont have to use your money.

[@demetriosa7646]

Just curious what did the customer want to do about the attic unit seeing you condemned it.

[@CC-hv5hk]

Hope you get the sale. She did need two full systems. That furnace sure was installed the wrong way .

[@bcbock]

Since heat rises (and so does gas) one could presume laying a furnace on its back so both rise is a bad idea.

[@GotchaplumberGotchahvac]

Always enjoy these videoes; good lessons, clear, straight to the point, simple, very enlightening.

[@danwittels5542]

Yeah... I'm with you this time, that up stairs system needs to be tagged and bagged. Those Rheem AC's still chugging after thirty years, impressive!

[@jeremyhundley3142]

Used to have to clean the flame sensor in our furnace growing up 1-2 times a month... Emery cloth and a $1 bill got us though! We had it replaced every couple of years, but it never lasted. I could get it good enough just reaching into the furnace

[@rfbedell347]

It is obviously installed by the Home Owner or "Joe 6 pack", someone without any HVAC knowledge. Scary & dangerous. No permit, nor any inspection ever took place on that furnace.

[@johnwildon5540]

That’s what ya get when you try and save money. Sometimes the cheapest bid isn’t the best choice. ✌️

[@moeselec]

That was not installed by a licensed HVAC contactor. Who did should behind barres.

[@billypreston12]

@@moeselec - I wouldn’t bet on it

[@boomer9900]

That truly redefines downdraft.

[@wonderhomie2011]

I’d imagine any water left over from the combustion of gas over time sits at the back of the exchanger and may compromise the integrity of it. Any way, good call on shutting it off and advising the customer that it’s a danger to use until it’s installed properly.

[@danieldelano9892]

Good call

[@mikelewis4260]

"That's all I got on me." That's what I call BIG BALLIN. lol 😆. The best sensor cleaner on the market.

[@moeselec]

It's cost doubled within a week 😃

[@kevinmory8720]

Well I can say that i havent seen that one before. I use to install carriers an do not remember that position in the installers guide...

[@jphvac5725]

Holy chit! Cannot believe the stuff we see sometimes! I have never seen one installed on its back yet tho! Crazy!

[@ismackherbiehind]

When I first saw this unit on its back, I said “now what in the Sam hell is that doing like that.

[@danpikulski6573]

Wow. There is a lot of stuff happening there that we could never get away with in our area or for that matter would ever try to. In fact, we would not even be allowed to work on it unless we were allowed to fix all of the problems as we don't want to "own" them

[@HCheatNcool]

That is wild! I have never seen anything like that. Especially the house insulation on the duct

[@clayfree7428]

It use to be 1/2 ass by some of these companies.....this day in time it’s 3/4 ass.... I shake my head even on the commercial side I work in at least a couple of times a month.. Same crap here in Alabama.

[@benjaminkline4855]

Wrapping Kraft face around pipes like that, will trap alot of moisture and grow a ton of mold. But at least they didn't install a open draft box on it's back

[@brucepearson3675]

Reasons #1 through 100 why having a professional home inspection prior to purchase is the smartest investment a purchaser can make!

[@Sinister392]

Oh my ! The hacks are out and about !! Unreal what you run into !

[@jrobmccoy]

Not sure how I got here and I have no professional knowledge on HVAC installations. This did teach me that, when I eventually buy a house, hire a professional to inspect the furnace and AC system. There are too many hack jobs out there.

[@djwilliard3891]

Do the same for plumbing n electrical too

[@wizard3z868]

go with so called inspector too if it looks off or your gut says its wrong it more than likely is. im no hvac tech an apprentice spark at best but when i seen this unit on its back i was like wtf tht cant be right reading comments seems my gut wasnt lieing also seeing tht gas line and of course the romex and both with out bushings as well

[@TheWoodman064]

I have seen some pretty bad cases but that is beyond the worst! That setup was sent from the lower beyond!

[@rubensahak9178]

In my state MA furnace install must be inspected.I can't believe hack jobs people do so stupid and dangerous.

[@James_Bowie]

That installation needs to be stamped "BUBBA WAS HERE". Don't they have home inspections in SC?

[@rubensahak9178]

not just home but should be inspected required for water heater,furnace for sure.In MA it is required and thank god for it.

[@robertgaines-tulsa]

Wow! My eyes first went to the crack in the exhaust. Then, I saw the exhaust just sitting in front of the flue pipe. That's not how you keep your customers alive to get future business from you! For some reason, I think Benjamin Franklin would have approved of your use of the $100 bill to clean the flame sensor. From my understanding, he was weird like that. A fiberglass sleeve should help with the scorched insulation problem, but you intend to reinstall the whole thing anyway which is probably the best thing to do.

[@aaronclark1599]

Man i do this all day, come home feed the Cattle, do work around the house and then clean up and jump on here to watch you work lol. Love this channel

[@TedCookHVAC]

Thank you very much! I really do appreciate you watching! Sometimes I wish I could have grown up on a farm doing those kind of things, seems like it would be a lot more peaceful then what I have to do every day. Nonetheless, I am very blessed and happy to have the life I have. Thank you again very much for watching my videos!

[@aaronclark1599]

@@TedCookHVAC it's very peaceful, if you're ever in Oklahoma and in the Area just let me know, we will treat you to a Steak Dinner..

[@brandonrutt2898]

Will not catch rollouts when oriented like that.

[@eldoradoboy]

I was wondering about that.. and with that crazy flue set up a rollout could be something rather imminent. these crappy installers prob put in during the summer and never worried about the heat.. took the customer for their $$ and ran

[@jcc3279]

@@eldoradoboy looks like a carbon monoxide special going on with that hack job. And take a guess who this is lols 😂

[@mikereynolds6118]

21 years in this and not once seen a unit on its back and I've worked in some shit holes bro

[@michaelbanko451]

I install Rheem and/or Carrier daily and have been for years. That install application is in no way acceptable lmao 😂

[@GB-ue6wr]

As Steve from up north would say…”you called me out here to work on this, guy!”

[@josiahpierson3636]

What a piece of work 👏, time to start over

[@mattluongo7763]

Reminds me of the old GE air handlers that can be installed like that, there is still quite a few of them in my area.

[@raclark5870]

There no way I would have even touched it period. A quote for new system, turn off gas and power, disconnected stat wire. I would never trust that furnace even it remounted correctly. Run away dont walk. Quick way to get sued. That’s crazy. Keep the video of turning off

[@dhinton8127]

That definitely is not what is meant by multi position.

[@kens698]

What a mess up there. Had a no heat call yesterday where in order to change the filter you had to remove a section of the flue and intake pipes. And hope that the homeowner tightens the fittings and doesn’t break the pipe in the attic. Shut that one off real quick when I saw it. Way too dangerous to keep using. And somehow it passed a home sale inspection.

[@acb43211]

Good Lord! Sometimes you get em like that don't ya. Keep working hard brother!

[@Mercmad]

oh boy!. I often think that the manufacturers need someone out in the field to do spot inspections of new installs to make sure their backside is covered.

[@TheOneshot78]

That is crazy, thats a time bomb ready to goo...

[@leeb.7188]

In my area (Maryland) a new furnace requires a building permit, followed by inspection after the install. No way would that install have passed inspection here.

[@pomonabill220]

That attic unit is just SCARY! So VERY dangerous also1 Wonder how long it ran before failing flame proveout?

[@FlyEaglesFly19111]

Wow..im never ceased to be amazed. Thee amount of hacks are too abundant. Good grief. Stay safe

[@mattthomas1217]

Wow never seen that before, people will do anything to get out of a job, question is how did that pass inspection...

[@Pillowtap]

How do you guys replace attic furnaces? Even if it could somehow be lugged up that latter, it wouldn't fit through the small ceiling opening. Do you take it up in pieces and put it together?

[@danieldelano9892]

What ever it takes, usually taking off the wood trim around attic opening let’s it slide through.

[@97Napkins]

hey TED....we call those dedicated horizontal furnaces. Installers didnt feel like transitioning or the transition material wasnt ordered and could also be the fault of the guy that sold it. BAD survey plus bad installers = HACK JOBS

[@luisaleman4008]

People when you buy a home first thing look at is the attic check for hvac plumbing and electrical

[@drakbar5957]

Too bad the installer didn’t see the “This End Up” sticker. 🥴

[@newstart49]

You touch it and fix it- you own it from that point on and if anyone is harmed, they come looking for you. I clean flame sensors with 500 grit. Have never had a problem doing so.

[@zack9912000]

Butchers should be charged with felonys, with that said these customers will tell you they got a great price though

[@scottnagel4085]

He should not have worked on it ! To much liability ! Anything happens he was the last to work on it !

[@trinito97]

My neighbor has one installed like that, he installed it himself lol. He thought I was too expensive. He has problems with it but I told him that wont touch that thing

[@justingonzales8124]

What did the customer ended up wanting to do?

[@gfmurphy5]

Would be interesting if you included your discussion with the customer

[@daddygc5814]

Damn,i am glad that we have basements upnorth here

[@rj.parker]

Carrier Installation Manual: WARNING FIRE, INJURY OR DEATH HAZARD Failure to follow this warning could result in unsafe furnace operation. DO NOT install the furnace on its back or hang furnace with control compartment facing downward. Safety control operation will be adversely affected. Never connect return-air ducts to back of furnace.

[@KG-yn9qi]

How can the burner work with it blowing downward, gravity alone cause blow back etc.??? With unit lay on back. Tell them need reinstall or Walk away? Hard one how do you make the call. You had nothing to do with it. But liability of you knowing bad, and leave it operating?

[@jefferygrady3181]

Hopefully the new home owner had you install all new equipment Ted? That was a real mess!

[@Ravagedsoul1988]

Haha the $100 to clean it. I usually keep a 1 or 5 in my chest pocket at all times

[@Hanson3]

Why You Should Never Buy a House Without Having It Inspected

[@seang.2046]

By who? An inspector who doesn't even go into an attic or crawl space and just turns on the t-stat and says everything is working?....

[@mpurecat4155]

Home inspectors by and large know nothing about furnaces or boilers which is why i as a gas technician am once and a while tasked by an inspector to inspect that particular type of thing. Does it hurt the inspectors bottom line...yes. does it mean they are doing the right thing and be thorough...yes. many inspectors basically turn the heat up and eventually turn the cool on to see that they turn on. most inspectors try and find out how old the units are and by my experience they make the recommendation of replacing anything over 18 years.

[@rogerkennedy8849]

Thats got to take the cake on a great installation

[@Ted_E_Bear]

Cowboy Ted call the Calvary !

[@nhbilly]

Learned something new again. I knew it could be installed on the side because I've seen it done in other homes, but I guess that's the incorrect side to install it.

[@RayRay-nb7tn]

Until the owners and tech stop hacking the trade, unfortunately this will not stop. I would not leave that unit on either. If you get the job I would like to see a new video on this house. To show what a good company can do when installing equipment. Good luck.

[@larrykeenan598]

Was there no house inspection done before the sale? A blind inspector would have caught that screwup. That furnace was never intended to be laid on it's back.

[@brocklambert8417]

Hey Ted have you had any issues with the s furnace and propane burning up the flame sensors

[@jdniedner]

See that $100 bill? That's why you work hard, why you develop and apply skills. For the hundies

[@henryt9254]

I'm not a HVAC tech person. However, commonsense tells me for liability reasons, I wouldn't even consider touching these systems. You might correct one issue, but there might be other blatant non-conforming safety issues that one might miss and bear the consequence of any mishaps.

[@guybeavers6026]

That homeowner better have a lot of those flame sensor cleaners!

[@throttlebottle5906]

lmao!

[@toddavis8603]

Sometimes one has to work with Benjamin! You did your best with a Rube Goldberg!

[@rogergregory6512]

That's definitely one of the worst hack jobs that I have seen. I have never seen a furnace on it's back that was installed...LOL

[@greenyamo1321]

That’s some wild shit right there

[@ryans413]

What a hack job good lord where’s the pride in your work oh my god this things bad

[@christophermiller1520]

OMG!!! Looks like the mechanic called in sick and the boss told the helpers get er done🤦‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@dawnhock4545]

We always keep all the paperwork when things are installed, that’s a sad job

[@sziltner]

Hoping she goes with a Ted Cook properly installed system. And that we get to see some of the install or at least the finished project.

[@throttlebottle5906]

that needs shutdown by the gas co. or fire department. just due to the flex pipe passing through and rubbing the case, it's an explosion waiting to happen! let alone the other dozen+ issues lol.

[@behvac]

If she had a home inspector check this house out. He is suppose to carry Errors and Omissions Insurance. Unless he put in his report that a qualified HVAC person look at the Heating and Air system. Houses have been selling with as is in the contracts. I have seen houses sell for $50,000 more then list price. No home inspectors. You know the county inspector would never pass this off. Carrier will sale a gas furnace on line to anyone, Goodman and Rheem to. looks like a homeowners job or there grandson.

[@sknight0391]

H@ll yeah, 1990. The year I graduated high school. 😎👍

[@TedCookHVAC]

I am class of 80 😎

[@tonyrhoton6613]

I dont blame him at all the flue pipe is enough customer alot of times get upset when I refuse 2 run there unit I had 1 guy I repaired 1 unit and condemned the other he wouldn't pay me 4 the 1 I fixed not worth legal issue I just call all local guys i knew told them beware if he called them

[@gonzgarr1592]

Holy Cow Going from $50 to $100 now you are showing off i'm going to move to your state

[@JackGiralico]

So, THATs what a 100 dollar bill looks like. ;)

[@blake8297]

DAAAANG! We all know what trade brings in the big bucks!

[@natepeterson7145]

We can't even use those type of gas flexs for anything. Only painted stainless steel.

[@BeautifulAngelBlossom]

that company put that in there should be out of business that hack install could have killed somone

[@cmc7256]

Bryant boy here (same thing as a carrier mostly)...yeah that ain't right. It's a shame because that's a good piece of equipment killed by a...just disappointing...installation. Reinstall that or (as much as I am not a fan of Trane lol) install a new unit in there because who knows what happened to that thing like that. Oh and yeah it can't be installed in that position.

[@stevebennett1563]

I walk up to a job like this it’s either pay us to reinstall it for buy a new one from us other than that walk away

[@wizard3z868]

another example of mine over matter job "its not mine so it dosent matter" lol

[@nike12000haha]

why not use steel wool to clean the flame sensor?

[@christophercudia8354]

thank God you did not light the flame with that $100.00

[@daren32909]

Yes $100 bill always get them slick.