Teddy Atlas with Jim Gray - Stories on Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali, Kobe Bryant, & more GOATs

[@TheSquad4life]

Jim is great, never let Teddy’s hatred for Mike dictate his opinion. Stand up guy

[@melvino8926]

Yup

[@gxxrmjaz]

I actually bought this book today because of this podcast. Can't wait to read it.

[@alcottdevalte7440]

This is a really good one. I wish Ali was still around... And along with all other people as well who has inspired and cared for so many, and done great things that made them champions :-)

[@cylegless8139]

legendary interview - these are the kind of stories and books that never fade

[@midsouth2strokes185]

Got to buy this book! Jim Gray is so much a part of people's lives including mine that are true boxing fans. What a guy and what a life well lived and still going...

[@SliceOfLife100]

This was a fascinating interview, Jim seems like a great guy

[@cathalcully9752]

This episode was amazing. We need more legends to tell these stories.

[@doseloverstar4991]

Super Admiration for This whole set up Good Work Shout Out To All of Y'all

[@thejohnofella4203]

I’m looking forward to this episode 🙂. Jim Grey another Legend in the beautiful sport that is the sweet science and top historian like the main man himself Teddy Atlas. Two GOATS together 👌. And Hi from the UK 🇬🇧. And thank you Teddy n Ken and team for these weekly shows 👍...

[@adamismail4820]

Wow, wow,wow, what a podcast!!!. Sir Teddy Atlas "life is like boxing 🥊" wow,wow,wow,what a podcast!!!

[@joyceneville5819]

This has quickly become 1 of my favorite podcasts love Teddies stories and really love how you cover the ufc start watching Dana Whites contender series on Tuesday nights on ESPN+ good fights would love your takes on the fights. Keep up the great work.

[@andrewjackson408]

Jim is alright with me. God bless him for his honesty.

[@mheiseus]

who else cant stop watching teddy, he can read the dictionary and i'll listen every time.

[@brentfoxx5385]

This was THE BEST out of many GREAT Podcasts you have done. I have to apologize to Mr. Gary for initially thinking he was one way & finding out for myself he was COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. Please let him know I appreciate the STAND he took for Hank Aaron.

[@dchristo01]

What an amazing life Jim Gray had!!Thank you for this podcast ,always inspiring!

[@Amy-cu1qn]

Unbelievable interview guys! I could listen to Teddy & Jim talk for days

[@obiclone]

Jim Grey actually recited this part of the letter on showtime about 20 years ago

[@KyleGushue]

Could be the best episode yet!

[@TheRealTomahawk]

God bless you Jim Gray

[@dprich100]

Jim has always been great at rewriting history.

[@picante3302]

great podcast keep this up its lockdown over here in england again we need this !!!!

[@jnrgong9387]

The Hank Aaron story nearly brought tears to my eyes, what a top guy Jim is. Salute for standing up for what you believed in much tougher and harsher times. The fight for equality still goes on👊🏾👊🏾

[@DEEDUBZ]

2 Sporting greats in Teddy Atlas and Jim Gray right here

[@bloodstormm]

lol @ Teddy saying “maybe he took a little nibble” 😂

[@smccowan7106]

Thanks fellas. Jim seems like a neat guy, has a youthful sense of humour lol. great stories, I'll be looking for it on Audible.

[@biggiemauls7772]

Great episode!

[@Mike-we4is]

Amazing show..Thank you

[@Daveymallon]

Mike holding someone out the window by their feet. Never EVER knew that. Mike is amazing. What a complex human being. Completely unpredictable. If he could’ve held his shit together, he probably would’ve been the greatest HW ever and never lost!

[@JoanneJaworski]

THANK YOU for saying that Kobe is one of the GOATs!! Couldn't agree more!!! It goes FAR beyond some stats. In fact, if you just look at stats, that seems pretty short sighted to me!

[@RemmySkye]

Anyone who has followed Teddy and is familiar with his comments on Mike Tyson would know his long time criticism of Mike has always been that Mike never answered the challenges that came. Teddy has said it's not a fight until theres resistance and that whenever there was resistance Mike ran away. Now Jim is saying basically the opposite, that whenever Mike's back was against the wall "he always answered the questions." While it just goes to show the complexity of human beings and the different opinions and perspectives of/on the same one man by two different people (Teddy and Jim) it is nevertheless interesting because they are conflicting viewpoints. I guess neither one could be fully correct but it would have been interesting if Teddy would have argued his point of view

[@vivanance]

Good point. I feel like young Mike wasn't given the proper tools to handle adversity, or rather his mentor, whom he relied on for everything, wasn't around to help Mike through the challenges that one faces when they reach a certain level of fame. Who could Mike trust once Cus was gone? Once the grifters like Don King moved in Mike had no chance. I think Tyson should be given a lot of credit for being humble and working through his issues to be the person he has become. I feel like writing him off because he didn't have the proper tools to be able to fight all the adversity when he was younger is a bit unfair.

[@RemmySkye]

@Ian Dixon thanks @vivanance. And you are both very much correct I would say. What is really unfortunate in my opinion and I'm basing this on Mike Tysons own words from interviews and also a book I read called Iron Mike I believe and it involved his former bodyguard or chauffer as one of the main storytellers but the unfortunate thing I'm talking about is that Don King got ahold of Mike at that time that you both are speaking of when Cus had just passed away. Cus was not the only person involved in looking after Mike. I dont mean to insult either of you by presuming you dont know these things I'm about to say, I'm just stating them for anyone reading this who may not know is all, but Mike's handling was also tended to by Cus' close confidants and long time boxing men Bill Cayton and Jim Jacobs. In particular Jacob's is known for his massive collection of boxing videos perhaps the most prestigious and one of the largest boxing libraries in the world. Unfortunately we don't know the facts but it is certain that in the immediate aftermath of Cus' death these two men were the primary caretakers of Mike Tyson. They failed miserably. Whose fault is what and what who did to whom we cant say for sure but Mike alleges that Jacob's abused him financially and made him sign really poor contracts specifically one whereby the devices were in place that enabled Robin Givens, Mike's first wife, to take more than half of Mike Tysons assets in their divorce. Many allegations have been made about the conduct of Bill Cayton and Jim Jacobs. What we can say for sure is they weren't in charge of Mike for too long and Don King stepped in swiftly. What part of the story is true or what part was Don King manipulating the INSANELY HIGHLY VULNERABLE young Mike who knows? What we do know is, for what it's worth, Cus did trust those men. But people betray the wishes of the dead in far closer relationships than friendship, so who knows? It's a shame because I personally believe that Don King destroyed Mike Tyson. That being said Mike was also legally an adult and a man, the world heavyweight champion in fact. But had a person who really had Mike's best interest at heart at that vital time right after Cus died, someone who could have "out politicked" Don King when King made his move and someone who would have really saw after Mike I think the story of his career but more importantly his life, would have played out far differently. Sorry for rambling on.

[@JJ_SDWR]

Phenomenal interview!

[@abdulmkh]

Great podcast

[@chewie2299]

Humilty is tge definition of IRON MIKE TYSON

[@GeeHaze85]

Really great interview

[@Camcolito]

Good luck getting a sports reporter job now at 17. You'd need 17 years experience and a PhD in molecular biology for an unpaid internship.

[@PhoenixProdLLC]

If that's what you want to do, don't let poorly written Human Resources ads get you down. 85% of the time they never hire the candidate who meets ALL the criteria anyway! 😂 You can option them by a accepting reduced salary or interning for a couple of weeks gratis, just to see if you like it. Human Remains...uh...Resources I mean, don't always consult dept heads either to KNOW what they have to have and what's nice to have. So they cobble up an ad covering all the bases. As for degrees here's the deal: Shareholders and investors typically want to have X number of PhDs, Y number of Masters, and Z number of Bachelors. They'd like a perfect candidate but know they don't exist. So, go for it anyway! "Nothing ventured, Nothing gained." :)

[@ShitWrangler]

@@PhoenixProdLLC A woman like you once gave birth, now you give career advice. Goodbye peak civilization

[@RemmySkye]

Camcolito is right. Here in western civilization we have created a society whereby entertainers are considered the creme de la creme of the social hierarchy. Not just the entertainers themselves but the periphery players as well. There was a time even not long ago a guy like the lead singer of Blues Traveler could bank on his talent. Today the odds are so insanely against a person of that look it is almost always guaranteed to end in misery. Today entertainers are "company assets" before they are human beings. You gotta be in your 20s. Gorgeous and devoid of opinions and personality. Jim Grey and his idol, Howard Cosell, would both have tough going especially Howard with his look and thick North Eastern US accent. In America they raise the kids on fantasies of "you can be anything you want" but that's very dangerous stuff. They say that and fail to mention the millions who dont make it and the enormous financial sacrifices and heartbreak these millions suffer. Anyone who doesnt get that is in denial or ODing on the Kool Aid

[@bluepvp900]

Clearly untrue considering how obviously uneducated most football commentators are, I wish they had to have experience or a degree in something...

[@RemmySkye]

@@bluepvp900 when you say football I am thinking the EFL not the NFL, in which case I cannot comment on the situation with respect to England and the UK. I love proper football but I do not have enough experience or knowledge to say anything about the situation out there. If you're saying football as in NFL then heres the thing, it's not that any of them are going to school to become smart or wise. These fools who work for the national network's in the US here go to universities and all they learn is that stupid newsman voice every jerk on TV uses. That same dumb weatherman cadence. It's not that they go to school and play this disgusting game to get smart. The majority of them are dumb as rocks and just blind sheep. The point is they are playing the game of connections, ass kissing, buying in, student debt, sororities, fraternities. The old nonces in charge of the networks love to see it. Their supervisor level workers need to see that. It let's them all know you wanna be one of them. It's got nothing to do with intelligence. It's a disgusting incestuous game. A cowards game in truth.

[@joshshaw9443]

It says a lot when Teddy will down play a bite that Holyfield did and emphasize Tysons bite. Teddy is normally very fare. Tyson really broke teddy's heart. The only way he could hurt teddy this badly is not really by what Tyson did, but rather from how much teddy loved him. Only the people we love can hurt us so bad that time cant even heal.

[@Daveymallon]

I was thinking a similar thing regarding the two bites. Yes Mike bit a chunk but a bite is a bite. Maybe Holyfield wanted a chunk too but didn’t get it. Both men did something awful when the chips were down period!

[@aniqshardin]

lol the way you talk about it like they had a gay relationship

[@riparturogatti1907]

It’s not that he loved tyson. He is hurt because cus chose Tyson over teddy

[@MNWILD43]

Teddy always brings us what we wanna see.💪

[@tigerstriker]

Great podcast and channel

[@Sam-ng3of]

Ali talk around 48:00 ish

[@the300XM8]

Thank you brother, came here for him

[@Deckardcutspace]

Jim Gray's a real one

[@melvino8926]

Legends

[@tongandeathgrip901]

The fact that Teddy is wearing a BJJ fanatics t-shirt just raises my view of him as a combat enthusiast and a martial arts purest. Something about Teddy always rub the me up the wrong way, but I guess if you ask Teddy that's just a part of who is.... Or maybe I'm just a dick head. Either way, respect to you Teddy Atlas I'm a big fan, love from New Zealand.

[@truthhitman7473]

Muhammad Ali opened doors for a lot of people.

[@joshk8599]

Love this frkn podcast

[@ameno0o]

17:05 Mr Atlas regardless of what made you say that and im not saying that out of naivety but you were wrong for accusing him with murder thank you

[@yahyawiab1423]

yes, I sense a lot of hatred steel there,

[@TheSquad4life]

Teddy has never let go of his hate for mike, even after the apology. Even in a way he envies Mike’s success and progression in life

[@yahyawiab1423]

@@TheSquad4life yes you can check Teddy face when Jim Gray talking good about Mike his face turn to blue.

[@graysonarnold6432]

Need to hear Teddy’s reaction to the Glover texiera vs Thiago Santos fight and how the 41 year old may be the toughest guy on the planet

[@lee-rx7ph]

could you imagine if tyson came on this with teddy it would be mega never happen tho love from london uk

[@Enzo87325]

Idk I could see teddy going on hotboxin mike

[@Enzo87325]

@Ian Dixon yeah he has definitely done that teddy went to far on Rogans podcast if you ask me but they did burry the hatchet awhile back tho.

[@Enzo87325]

@Ian Dixon yep teddy talks about it on his podcast mike Apologized in person while teddy was commentating some fight

[@mohammedsadeysalmi]

I listen to it all, but would love timestamps

[@DEEDUBZ]

Good listen

[@christopherloth2327]

Time stamp on the Kobe talk?

[@PhDPhony]

If Teddy could hook up with Showbizz The Adult for the Tyson Vs Jones fight that would be awesome

[@AhmedAhmed-wg2dj]

I will be back later please let know about Mike Tyson part

[@chewie2299]

Teddy u did say it right on crying out to be liked im like that myself but I always come clean an I dont lie if so a white lie to keep the peace but I come clean some say its my CATHOLIC CONCHENCE I say its my humility

[@SA77888]

I didnt know Holyfield had ALSO bitten someones ear.....I bet Teddy was hatin listening to this. He's never really been able to totally forgive tyson.

[@chewie2299]

I'm smiling on the inside its a differ feeling

[@knuckletherapyserveothersf6092]

Does Tyson have a photagrafic memorie ?

[@Salamitommy-d5m]

I remember him laughing ear to ear at McGregor mayweather weigh in when Conor was calling floyd a bitch over and over😂

[@craftcostanza6322]

"Bitch can you fly!!???" lol

[@zerocool..]

Just think the stories we don’t know about Tyson 😂😂

[@chewie2299]

We do know them its hurt an hoping to have that joy we all want joy is a constant happiness is like vacation so look insidecan think an believe that

[@escapegoat1847]

Can't help comparing Jim's background to Teddy's.

[@tonyh8965]

Why was my comment deleted? No swearing or anything wrongful at all??

[@Kenneth14621]

I wish someone could explain the whole Pete Rose thing to me. So all he was doing was betting on which team would win? And he got banned from the hall of fame? He wasn't like trying to lose on purpose was he? Did he get kicked out so he couldn't play anymore or just from the hall? I mean seems like a stiff punishment just for betting on games. I mean gambling has been around since the stone age.

[@chewie2299]

Jim gray im a gray im curious if we might be related in history

[@bhavikupadhyaya972]

Teddy knows wtf he is talking about in basketball and football he knows more hoops than Ryan Hollins and Paul Pierce

[@Jimbobaloolaa]

1:04:40 for Tyson talk. You're welcome

[@fadlallahomar31]

I'm just curious to know who are those 3 persons with their fckn thambs down up there.

[@upon-fe2720]

Dunno about that hat but I'm really interested in Teddy's t-shirt.

[@rogerchavez9824]

😎

[@deadarmd]

Can we just have tyson on with teddy and maybe give teddy a xanax or joint and make sure Mike has been reminded of the good things Teddy did for him so it has the best chance of turning out well?

[@tanerismailoglu9789]

i love teddy and watch most of his stuff, but it is very funny to me he is wearing a bjjfantatics top. they should have gave him the dynamic striking one instead

[@TheRealTomahawk]

Who are the goats, the Chivas of boxing? Cus & Mike Clay Rocky Marciano Liston Ray Mercer Tommy Morrison Foreman Joe Louis Roy Jones Jr Joe Frazier Ken Norton Gene Tunney Jack Dempsey Roberto Duran Ray Robinson Sugar Ray Leonard Pernell Whitaker Julio Caesar Chavez Willie Pep

[@A.fordbey.99]

Some of these names gotta be replaced with other fighters bro 😂 especially Ray Mercer

[@TheRealTomahawk]

@@A.fordbey.99 Ray Mercer was an Olympic boxing champion who beat Tommy Morrison twice. So, IDK… Tommy beat George Forenan

[@A.fordbey.99]

@@TheRealTomahawk he was a damn good fighter! Top 10 Heavyweight of the 90s era but that’s it. He doesn’t have many accomplishments to be considered as one of the greatest boxers that’s just ridiculous having him in a same list as Joe Louis , Tunney , Dempsey… but not Lewis Holyfield or Tyson in your list like 😂😂😂come on

[@TheRealTomahawk]

@@A.fordbey.99 Tunney is 1-1-1 with Harry Grebb… who was a middleweight or lhw at best? Ray Mercer had the size, power, and experience. Mercer started boxing at 23 in the army and went pro at 27. He had some raw gifts, and a lot of heart. If he started at 5 who knows how he would’ve ended.

[@TheRealTomahawk]

@@A.fordbey.99 I missed Jack Johnson, Lennox Holyfield, Tommy Hearns, Floyd Mayweather, Marevelous Hagler, and Tyson Fury, they’re definitely on the list but have you seen who Tommy Morrison beat? He beat George Foreman, who has to be one of the scariest fighters of all time. And Jack Dempsey got kod by Fireman Flynn… Tommy retired at like 25…

[@glockrivers9320]

You take Tyson from these guys story and their is no story and teddy might not want to accept that but that’s just pride fucking with him pride only hurts it never helps, you fight through that shit.

[@mirshia5248]

:)

[@evangelodippolito7519]

Ya that’s true but hank Aaron probably wouldn’t of been that great as he is if he didn’t suffer through the hard times and racism it’s what brings you down in life that makes the best ones succeed in life. It seems every race has suffered a hard time and now it’s the white mans turn which they have this 21st century and they should probably the rest of this decade till the 2030s.

[@nidalkhan6161]

Atlas hates tyson

[@davidanthony4960]

lol.. teddy HAD to throw the word RAPE in.. Jim didn't as he has some class and respect for Tyson.. but of course teddy still has that itching bitter side that jumps out every now and then when he can get it to be used... there was not need at all to say why he was in prison.. as u see Jim didn't..

[@therumbleinthejunglee]

Joe Louis

[@shadamin7184]

What about joe Louis

[@A.fordbey.99]

What about him?

[@pinzytoto7698]

Please dont put Usain Bolt and that petty and bitter Carl Lewis in the same sentence 🙄