Watch Brands That Prove You Are Deeply Into Watches (Part 2)

[@betog.6229]

Zenith. Undoubtedly. No one finds Zenith by coincidence. You find it because you were looking for it.

[@Eikenhorst]

Absolutely,, I love Zenith, they make some unique watches that are different but still stylish. Something like the Elite Classic is on one hand a great dress watch, but once people see the dial it is a guaranteed conversation starter.

[@g-loctv6114]

Yeah zenith was the first mention in the first video, albeit an honorable mention. But I agree with you.

[@michaelriera6277]

I learned of Squale from TGV and purchased one from Gnomon years ago. Good watch for the $ , not sure why anyone would go “sour “ on the brand because of TGV.

[@mindflow82]

Because there are plenty of miserable people out there who feel good by bashing anything they can.

[@domgatrell651]

I think Teddy is referring to the TGV effect regarding Squale prices which have gone up since TGV publicised the brand and it’s watches, even developing his own colorway/TGV dial with them.

[@Cadwallon85]

I was curious about this too, but as another commenter stated, perhaps pricing has been affected due to increased demand from the exposure TGV provided.

[@hgr.7857]

This thread = 💯 facts. Good talk.

[@thegorn]

It's because parts of the watch community call TGV "the rat"

[@jleano609]

The need for accurate and precise timekeeping once railways were established and timetables were required to stop trains from colliding is a fantastic historical story and well worth looking into. It also forced the need for standardized as opposed to local time to adjust those watches to.

[@stuartcole4845]

Tell me about it. About 10 years ago I was in far eastern Siberia getting the train to Moscow on the Trans-Siberian railway after coming up from Mongolia. What I found out the day I caught the train was that all trains arrive and depart using Moscow time, which was like 5 time zones from where I was. It makes sense for the railway operators but is incredibly confusing for foreign passengers like I was! “What do you mean the 6am train to Moscow actually leaves at midday?” 😂

[@俊毅陳-v6p]

Knowing how to pronounce these brands is another indicator that you're a watch enthusiast

[@dasi8111]

JaegerLeCoultre!

[@nicolainielsen7700]

@Toto CH I pronouce it like Watchfinder guy, like "shae-she lecoultre"

[@Ben_Sta]

Check this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIKVlXpppdSGZ9k She is actually German but also covers French pronounced brands perfectly, also JLC

[@edkwon]

He seemed to pronounce 'Christopher Ward' correctly, disagree?

[@mattilatvala4164]

Obviously Muhle Glashutte seems to be impossible to him. 😮😆

[@pranavkamath4329]

Teddy’s out here validating all us watch idiot savants

[@TeddyBaldassarre]

😂😂 isn’t using the internet to validate your beliefs how most use the internet?

[@debelipacov]

@@TeddyBaldassarre Im gonna frame this comment haha

[@sdemosi]

@@TeddyBaldassarre this comment should be an NFT, ideally with a 🐼 dial 😁

[@rjkubr]

You should copyright that phrase ‘watch idiot savant.” Describes us perfectly.

[@mariobcab]

TGV as in the Urban Gentry? I love TGV. Not sure how his recommendation would have negative connotations?! I love Teddy’s videos too but not sure I agree with that.

[@Ghost345621]

I don't think he's blaming TGV or anything, it's just watch snobs shitting on anything TGV recommends

[@m.charron]

@@Ghost345621 can you imagine hating a brand because a guy on the internet said he liked them??

[@jps2989]

I think the comments are generated because TGV has made comments about watch reviewers who sell watches.

[@Ghost345621]

@@m.charron I know right smh but they're miserable bastards anyway who cares what they think, not gonna stop me from buying a watch

[@harryscarry6064]

Hey Mario I’m with you. I enjoy TGV’s channel. He got me back into watches. Really well presented and edited videos. Have a good day. H.

[@luislaurencio]

Tgv got me and many others into watches, every single other watch channel should thank him for that.

[@RuffellTube]

JLC will instantly tell you they appreciate high horology. It is the watch makers watch, and certainly a watch collectors watch.

[@The1Nightengale]

I need a Teddy Baldassarre audio book.

[@brianstern7448]

The watches in my collection that have been most noticed by other enthusiasts are my Sturmanskies. Definitely an enthusiast brand.

[@jamesreid6616]

Have owned a Ball for several years, my favorite watch. It’s my travel watch because of the tritium glow it serves as my bed side watch where there are no bed side clocks. Second favorite is Yema Flygraf. Nice.

[@AndyLSB]

I recently bought an Alpina Seastrong, not sure if to call Alpina an "enthusiast" brand but it was a brand that I personally was not interested in, but recently things changed, I now love my watch and want more Alpina models.

[@michaelhopkins5088]

What about Union Glashuette? The new dive watch series are a diamond in the rough! This brand is the little sister of Glashuette Original and it shows!

[@jrgdrumsandwatches]

Squale was a swiss brand till itvwas sold to the italian Maggi family. Found 1959 by swiss Charles von Büren in Neuchâtel, he was a diver and often tested their watches in the lake there. Great brand, still making good affordable swiss made watches.

[@varanid9]

1946, according to Wikipedia.

[@wuyeah1980]

DOXA Sub! Saw it once on NYC metro, he was wearing Divingtar, I got my Pro. Before he got off, he looked at me lift up left arm give it a shake and wink at me. I pointed mine and gave a thumb up with a nod. That was kinda funny.

[@lionheart10801]

I’m a railroad engineer and love my Ball watch!

[@anthonyschumacher9925]

Teddy Baldassare. The watch guys, watch guy. Love his videos, watch knowledge, clear passion and good, proper English to boot. I'm Swiss-French but live in Illinois. Student of languages. My daily is a Certina Ds 1 powermatic 80 chronometer. What a great watch!

[@anggaperwirahadi5417]

Yeay, finally ball watch co. are mentioned. Personally, i owned 2 watches from them, ball marvelight II and engineer master II diver. Absolutely lovin' it

[@chrisbrant6596]

Ball is the best on the market for the money in my opinion. Original designs and built well.

[@stevefox8605]

I see anyone wearing an expensive watch that's not a Rolex & guaranteed they're into watches.... Few brands in this video I'm considering - Ball, Muhle in particular. Good video thank you. Cheers Mate 👍🏻👍🏻

[@justinmarlette6527]

Was pretty excited to see you now offer Ball in your store.

[@monarchco]

Oh ball! I actually just ordered a Roman. I've honestly found it so difficult to buy any kind of watch that doesn't have tritium on it.

[@walkerb1734]

Love the Cleveland reference! As a fellow Clevelander, I always hope one day to run into you and Courtney at a restaurant....or Alson’s one day! 😀. Keep up the great work!

[@TeddyBaldassarre]

I’m sure you’ll see us around. Don’t be shy when you do!

[@walkerb1734]

You got it, my friend! Drinks on me when our paths cross.

[@marloc2019]

The stilish touch of having the 6 o'clock date set to 30th in that Stowa flieger @ 4:55 is pure perfection

[@alexandrosgiannikos9796]

My ultimate list: Omega Ploprof TAG Heuer Monaco Hanhard Pilot or IWC Mark XVIII A Lange Zeitwerk Zenith Defy El Primero 21 skeleton Seiko Captain Willard Geb. Dornblüth and as a dress watch Grand Seiko SBGY003 or Patek Calatrava And maybe a Brequet Classic?

[@spliffnotes8359]

"Might be the TGV effect" Lmao I love super "niche" internet beef. Watch enthusiasts spitting understated, passive aggressive bars is the new 2021 rap battle.

[@wayneholmes637]

Nice to see CWC get a mention. I own a G10 and an automatic version of the diver. These two are my favourites and the fixed bars make it harder for thieves to snatch them off your wrist (had a kid in Phnom Penh try to grab my G10 but failed miserably).

[@Jason_Quinn]

Ball is my perpetual "my next watch will be a" watch.

[@JupiterTarts]

What's the TGV effect? Do people hate him? What's wrong with Urban Gentry? I have him on regular rotation along with Teddy, Federico, Bark and Jack, and Jenni Elle and enjoy his content as much as everyone else's.

[@PacificTime369]

Same - what is this beef LOL

[@m.charron]

We keep watching, but haters gotta hate.

[@harryscarry6064]

I’m with you. What’s wrong with TGV? It’s a watch channel. Pretty harmless. I discovered this channel from watching his. I sort of don’t want to watch this one anymore. Teddy needs to be aware of where his audience comes from.

[@KRBY555]

Because of his exposed history of trash talking and back stabbing. I watch but his persona had been exposed. Fired from watch box. That's stuff is why. But in a world with AC3 TPG etc. Get real and step away from the personality

[@m.charron]

@@KRBY555 Mostly it's hearsay. You don't get to be a media personality, in any medium, without collecting haters. I don't know what happened with Watchbox, but I have to say they weren't a good fit from the beginning.

[@shirts2003]

I think Seiko / Citizen are brands where a mall shopper could easily get a hold of without having a clue how deep the hole of horology descends. My dad has a Seiko essentials from Kohl’s for instance.

[@hypersynesthesia]

My first was a Citizen. I wanted the Nighthawk tho which was a few years old when I decided on it - lots of research, reading watch forums etc before I settled on it (I wanted a first watch I wouldn’t regret, and wasn’t disappointed, I still wear it from time to time) and I wanted to try it on so I had to track down a jeweller in the next town who actually stocked it. I think falling down the rabbit hole after that was inevitable…

[@Barlando1]

This is actually very helpful for me, I have been developing an interest in watch collecting and I always prefer to get what I like while also looking at less well known brands to avoid the chaos of the main stream brands.

[@OneBravo1]

TGV effect. What does that mean?

[@ArthurFShelby]

I was wondering the same thing.

[@TommyRibs]

I find Ball watches very cool and very intriguing. What I like about them as a brand is they are not derivative in any way. They take their own aesthetic very far.

[@TheCharlesAtoz]

Teddy! Do you like the Hanhart 417ES?

[@LimitedWard]

Really confused by your comment about Squale and TGV. Do people have some beef with him?

[@m.charron]

The only thing I've been able to figure out is that he's a) had success with his channel, and b) does things differently.

[@jps2989]

TGV, has made comments about watch reviewers who sell watches.

[@michaelriera6277]

As a potential conflict of interest, but never called out by name. He was sharing his view. Teddy’s move was classless.

[@fabriziodutto7508]

Agree 100% this second video is more precise about the subject, I can't wait to see part 3.

[@martinkaplan1805]

Wonderful content, Teddy ! Thanks so much for your incisive, informative, succinct and enjoyable reviews!

[@endlessdrive8421]

Kind of surprised Longines wasn't mentioned in either video. In my experience, most people don't recognize Longines. While historically they were significant and very popular in a past life, the only people who ever seem to notice them nowadays are watch enthusiasts or at least someone old enough to remember the brand at all.

[@davidbowyer6840]

Don't get me wrong, I think they are probably underappreciated... but Longines is the official timekeeper of the top horse races all across the world. They are also the official timekeeper of the Commonwealth Games and were for Roland-Garros (French Open) for over a decade, as well as many other events. A longines was the watch of the Bond villain in Casino Royale. They also have ADs in over 150 countries. The brand plastered everywhere compared to others mentioned in this video.

[@epicmarcus3762]

Longines is kinda big in Asia tbh. You can't miss Longines brand in any bustling shopping mall in any big city in Asia. IMO, that's kinda defeat the purpose of an enthusiast's brand.

[@1969EType]

Bro...stop...keep that Longines on the down low...day-yum...

[@Gigabitz]

By the "TGV Effect", do you mean the phenomenon by which he grows the watch community? The TGV effect got me to watch you.

[@michaelriera6277]

Same here. TGV has been very influential in getting people interest in watches. For the pure love and appreciation of watches.

[@markriley5863]

@@michaelriera6277 Exactly. If he wants to have a pop at anyone it should be Archie Luxury who is a complete scumbag.

[@timetowatch_francois]

@Gigabitz - I'm with you; TGV got me to stumble on Teddy and I'm a watch enthusiast since that time. My two cents; Teddy's a class act and didn't mean anything negative about the "TGV Effect". Teddy's mention of the "TGV Effect" is a nod to TGV/Tristano and highlighting how influential he can be. Specifically regarding the Squale brand. Face it, it's an Italian watch ownership since the 1980s with solid Swiss movements and TGV's showcasing how proud he is by talking about Squale watches in many, many of his reviews ... simply b/c he can. And why not? TGV can't control if others get "tired" of hearing about Squale watches but it's an "effect" nonetheless. Teddy simply pointed that out.

[@ericarghirudis3462]

2 integrated bracelet watches: pelton perseus. wempe iron walker , 3 hands and an internal rotating bezel diver( glasshute factory, or division, ). the last one probably wears large.

[@tmoh99]

I’ve heard that the phrase “on the ball” is a reference to Ball watches. Another interesting piece of Ohio horological history is the Deubner watch co in canton which was pretty much picked up and shipped to Russia to form Poljot. There is a Duebner ave in stark coin which I assume is related somehow… Great video!

[@paulrambo8694]

Being from the area it would be interesting to learn more

[@TheTownWatch]

Ball is great! Glad you mentioned them!

[@graykoolaid7778]

Really love the design of the Blancpain watch, just an amazing piece to have.

[@kojiattwood]

Knowing what the TGV effect is indicates you're a watch enthusiast, heh.

[@corybrown9933]

Is this a reference to his gushing and overly romanticizing watches or something else entirely?

[@raykay91]

@@corybrown9933 I think it's a comment on TGV calling out watch reviewers who also sell watches and impartiality.

[@jjjfffppp]

Teddy vs tgv on the jake Paul vs Tyrone woodley undercard. Make it happen showtime!

[@m.charron]

@@corybrown9933 they all gush and romanticize. But he gives the negatives along with the positives too, just as much as anyone. So who knows, maybe Teddy's gotta get a dig in because he feels hurt. I'm undecided, but TGV has a point about 'content producers' selling the products they're reviewing.

[@corybrown9933]

@@m.charron yeah, I’ve enjoyed his shows because if you’re a collector, you kind of get infatuated with items by nature. His show introduced me to Long Island Watch Co. where I think you have with it an owner who is top notch.

[@RedwoodAggie]

This is a good list. You can even do one on well known brands, but if you're got a specific watch, odds are good for being a watch geek e.g. Seiko Alpinist. The TGV talk was completely unnecessary, and was disappointing. I have seen a few people on groups mention some quality control issues with Squales. I don't know how prevalent that is, because it's just anecdotal. That never stopped most of us from buying Seiko though.

[@Mark-fb9zo]

Great subject matter Teddy, really enjoyed parts I &II. If there is to be a part III maybe Zodiac and Ollech &Wajs could get a mention.

[@Joellercoaster]

By far and away, the watch that has started the most conversations with watch nerds has been my Christopher Ward C65 SH21. It's anecdata but it definitely lines up with your video!

[@ericgrace9995]

It's hard to find Ball watches in the UK as most ADs don't carry them. Ever since an unfortunate incident in Thailand, I like to get my hands on a watch before I buy it. I have now found a small dealer who does, and have tried on a couple. One of the solid dive watches with 1000m WR and a basic Engineer had the most startling "lume" I have ever seen. The glass tubes lit the watch faces up like a Christmas tree. Move over Seiko. Ball lume is incredible.

[@the_once-and-future_king.]

Ernest Jones are the UK dealer for Ball. Check out their website.

[@Ghost345621]

I bought mine from Japan (used) and was hit with a hefty import duty but worth every penny, love my ball!

[@wayneholmes637]

The lume will be incredible for about 10years. Then ok for maybe another 10 but after that you will probably need to get the tubes swapped out for new ones (I think the half-life of tritium is around 12 years or so).

[@rf3899]

Wow, That Ball watch looked really nice. Really suits my style. Good list of watches.

[@Steve-id5qx]

It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on interesting watches that are more accessible to those starting in the hobby. Braun for those who like Bauhaus design, Mido for those who want performance for the money, Mondaine for the Swiss railroad connection, etc.

[@mkbighenk]

love this video Teddy. Please keep on doing those videos.

[@garnetnewton-wade6254]

How about Favre-Leuba, one of the oldest names of the Swiss watch industry.

[@drtod]

All of these time pieces are $1,000+ price range. If you wish to consider watches below $1,000 Aristo (another German brand) are an option that use SW200 movements.

[@FrankLavoy]

Thanks for sharing! I’m eyeing the Ball Fireman Enterprise these days and I’m happy to see Ball Watches made your list 😁 Also, thanks for your generosity, I’ll make sure to enter this contest … you never know, right?

[@theuglybiker]

Stop eyeballin' that Fireman and get one! You won't regret it! I got one about a year ago and it doesn't spend much time in the watchbox.

[@j.j.h.atemycereal]

Muhle, Ball, and CWC are all on my list. Great choices, Teddy!

[@michaelgould3384]

Is there any watches that can be used as a pilot watch and scuba while still being stylish?

[@emmacatte]

Time to once again pick a junghans max bill and hope for the best. Also nice vid! Ball is always a top tier choice

[@davidc5191]

I would include Zodiac to this list. Not only obscure despite being part of the Fossil group, but also hard to get. Was on an AD's waitlist for 8 months to get a Super Seawolf.

[@bongkem2723]

bought a Christopher Ward in 2019 and the trident 38mm is just beautiful. And for 600m water resistant, this is a pro tool watch, at the same time so elegant and works perfectly with a suit too. Best choice i've made on a watch :))) The price goes up now too (but they change the hands which i hate).

[@D4r7hV403r]

Oh boy Squale's new feature is TGVimtented brand cache.

[@andybroer651]

Love Glycine and Tissot... thanks for the video!

[@siongheeleong8078]

Blancpain is a good choice. They do a watch that's unique to the watch world - the Chinese calendar watch. It covers the entire 60-year cycle (5-elements, 12-annual zodiac animals) of the Chinese calendar.

[@SamrayGTR]

LOVE CHRISTOPHER WARD! The Flieger C65 Sandhurst is incredible and COSC certified!

[@mariosiaven2965]

Recently I bought a Ball Racer and it looks and feel quality plus a very distinct aesthetic at a competitive price and with the bonus of the gas lume you cant go wrong

[@yashwanthpalamasi1804]

Please tell me the best everyday watch in the 500 dollors price range.m

[@jorgeolguingarcia]

Overall a great video, just thought it was a bit unnecessary to mention TGV. Don´t follow him as much of late, but really wasn't necessary. You do you, let others do their stuff. Just saying.

[@KyleSnarr]

Agreed. Super random shots fired for why??

[@mindflow82]

Yeah just dumb. TGV is the reason most people are watching this video lol

[@michaelriera6277]

Unnecessary comment just devalues Teddy and his content. I think it was a misstep.

[@icecreamforcrowhurst]

@@michaelriera6277 geez louise. Misstep? Lol He’s not running for President. This dude is putting out top shelf content, I don’t think he should worry about the PC police in the comment section here.

[@rahuldevgun8703]

Teddy can u help me understand the diff between spb059 vs spb095 ... esp on the movement

[@breakers1986]

Recently picked up a Christopher Ward Sealander, loving it!

[@paris2993]

R these CW good?

[@philrennie3363]

Christopher Ward watches are a solid choice. I have three and about to add the C63. Best cases on the market.

[@iaincook4672]

@@paris2993 have had three over the journey and currently have a c60 trident. Solid, great design and comfortable pieces. Brilliant value for money and design IMO

[@LTTang]

I’ve been eyeing the C65 and the Ball

[@fotiosbris9787]

I suppose you got the black dial, how is it? It looks great but how does it feel and how is the accuracy? Thank you

[@S-Ltd1000]

What about the Guangin Cheronometer? They've been making them since 8500.

[@webdca123]

I love Ball watches. Great history, products, etc.

[@chadsmith3171]

Again, amazing content...so well explained. Thanks, Teddy!

[@Tnartn]

Hey Ted, I don't know why but for that last pick (in terms of a higher end luxury watch brand) I'd thought you'd go for Jaeger-LeCoultre (JLC) -the watchmaker's watchbrand. But again I like what you did there - giving other watch brands some time in the limelight. Blancpain was a great choice and I, like many of your viewers, appreciate your intentional thought process behind every decision you make for your videos. Keep up the great work!

[@pringlw]

Lange, FP Journe, you covered Grand Seiko last time. Those are some of the watches that tell me someone is into watches. I even put JLC in there a bit. “Your favorite watchmaker’s favorite watchmaker”

[@pjyothi6533]

Don’t know if you changed your frames but even if not the black shirt works well

[@terencekoh6296]

love the Fifty Fathoms Automatique blue dial but 45mm and 50mm lug to lug does wear a tad large. sorry for the overworked small wrist complaint!

[@jh-il5sb]

just picked up a damasko da44 and i am really impressed.....you hear all the reviews and they are all true. awesome brand

[@shinymetalvids]

Really enjoying Teddy’s videos, watching dozens this week! But likewise I didn’t get the TGV effect comment. If there’s a group of people who have soured to a brand because of another person that sounds like a them problem. TGV has pulled thousands into the hobby.

[@georgiebestmanutd4746]

Terry, there's another channel that dissed Ball Watches; not so much for its quality (good watch); but Ball stabbed consumers who buy direct from Ball at MSRP prices; while Ball sells same watches at deep discount to the grey market retailers. Outta door, the consumer is already behind the 8th ball

[@adamsmithproperties2528]

During the height of the pandemic I had to fly from Hawaii to the east coast, one of only 12 people on the plane and the pilot is wearing a Christopher Ward GMT pepsi, we ended up talking watches for 30 min prior to boarding.

[@dasc0yne]

@15:07 Blancpain is for "a person of culture." Teddy laughs.

[@UGA.D]

"There are possibilities that the person you might be approaching might not be a true watch enthusiast." Looking at you, Rolex.

[@BrettDon11]

Recently picked up a Traska and it’s the first time I’ve felt like I’m deep in the game

[@Marshallbgrey]

What about Dan Henry?

[@awynative]

Both Ball and Stowa rock! I have a Trainmaster 135 and a Fleiger. My next buy will be a Stowa or Muhle marine. Arabic numerals, few to no complications, no bezel, quality 3rd party movements-vintage is me. My grail watch = Reverso.

[@jdiaz813]

I just like watches that are good looking to me and their unique features. I bought a Ball for the tritium, a Citizen for the eco-drive, and a Seiko for the kinetic movement for example.

[@denisdaly1708]

Im the same way. All good watches.

[@NomadicPhoton]

Don’t forget Fears watches, Robert Loomes (Loomes &Co) and R. W Smith, though you won’t see the last one out and about 😂

[@Frytsz]

Teddy, can you do a watch collection video relating to motorsports?

[@marcalberts6703]

FP Journe is a quintessential WIS brand--no one casually buys them I don't think. Good to include for Round 3. And I think Zenith probably needs to be in there as well since I don't think I've ever seen one in the wild that wasn't on an enthusiast wrist

[@FrostyHoss]

Zenith was in part 1 👍🏻

[@LaskarHarimurti]

another honor mention, D.Dornblüth & Sohn

[@TomRauhe]

Others: Accutron Kudoke (obviously) Benzinger Arnold & Son Ulysse Nardin Roger Dubuis Chronoswiss

[@Tamer-rze]

Everyone knows UN

[@dasi8111]

@@Tamer-rze Still nobody wears a Freak unless they are deeply into watches.

[@sinjon]

I think Bremont should also be included on the list

[@gregoryho9307]

Ball Trainmaster Standard Time on a leather strap is an absolute show stopper

[@yeranaturupane6591]

really love ball! love the tubed lume they do would love to own one one day!

[@jeremyhicks964]

I think the model of a particular watch brand chosen indicates enthusiast choices. For example the higher end Seiko watches that compete money wise with well known Swiss brands shows someone who places build specifics and heritage above general brand awareness. For example the Marinemaster 300s and 62 Mas recreations.

[@steve4765630]

I would also add any automatic Citizen watch. They are very hard to find in the US. You only see Eco-Drive models. My NY0040 is the only one I've ever seen in the wild.

[@dhillon7167]

Does seagull 1963 qualify??

[@robbertblok5612]

Did you mention Dornblutt already? Maybe I missed it but it is certanly worth mentioning.

[@chris_ackroyd]

I’d have to suggest Bremont (esp. the MB1 where you have to have ejected from a plane to get one😳)

[@Faben202]

That Christopher Ward Super Compressor is fantastic! It had not been on my radar but it sure is now.

[@bigdog44b4u]

Great video. Love these mid brands. I am a huge fan of Ball and have 4 pieces. I am also a huge fan of CW. I have several of their watches as well. My favorite is the bronze with a blue face. Finally, Sqaule is an amazing dive watch. Love these too. Thanks for covering these brands. Nice everything isn't just the big ones.