It's only a story: Daniel Sloss at TEDxEaling

Scotland's Daniel Sloss is currently one of the fastest rising stars of UK comedy. He started doing stand-up aged 16, has appeared on numerous TV shows including 'Michael McIntyre's Comedy Roadshow' plus his own BBC show 'The Adventures of Daniel' and tours extensively thoughout the UK as well as internationally.He will be talking about how comedy is a series of short and truthful stories.
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[@danieldenadai9085]

Being 22 and talking for 14 minutes at that speed about those subjects with that depth was as tough as it was brilliant. Great job.

[@thatmanckid]

You could tell the lad was nervous as fuck, but he's always been a funny guy so I'm sure he knew nothing was gonna go wrong

[@heatherh4800]

[@desireecola924]

I was impressed by this fast articulation too! He's so bright. And I love his savage humour.

[@elyeliza8287]

@@desireecola924 he said that his parents are very intelligent people, so they talk smartly and he got that from home.

[@masterojack1]

you should watch his standup. It's brills

[@patrickjparedes]

Ted audience is too serious.. this guy is awesome.

[@Hercsmhules]

He wasn't putting on a full comedy how tbh. This wasn't supposed to be. Comedic.

[@Roughroad]

The audience didn't know how to react, he made them uncomfortable. Which I think is what he really intended to do, to make them think.

[@louisebentley4886]

@@Roughroad He is excellent at pushing people's boundaries by making them feel uncomfortable. If you haven't seen it, his Netflix routine centred around his sister is really revealing in this regard.

[@lelaknox]

Completely agree. I genuinely laughed out out loud multiple times during his monologue. The audience was waaay too serious. This is Ted not NPR.

[@imouse3246]

He was too hip for them. Too many eggheads in a typical TED crowd.

[@Unz360]

Wow, I've seen quite a few comedians try to explain all that offensiveness, but he just went up and nailed it. 'You made it offensive by telling them to their face, and, you can't be offended on behalf of someone else' Ya media

[@martinbrunning4532]

Unz360 it is a perfect explanation isn’t it, shows me the media in all its forms is far more offensive than any comedian I’ve ever seen. This young man is a very funny stand up and will continue his already successful career. 👍🏻😊

[@inspectordanos883]

Feelings are transferrable though, there is a word for it, it is called empathy. I get what he is trying to say, jokes are a tricky thing and his job is literally to tie the line. I respect him for that and I think he does a good job, however, some comedians have crossed that line, and that in no way represents any other comedian.

[@TCt83067695]

@@inspectordanos883 I think his view may have also evolved over the last decade. I've heard him criticize comedians crying that they can no longer make offensive jokes.

[@neilclarenceraloso5215]

This guy is 22 and does this kind of talk? I was 22 when I presented my thesis in front of 4 people and I was a nervous wreck. Great vid

[@jackandy3959]

He's 16

[@adrianonute1855]

+Jack Andy his 23 now, he started stand up at 16.. does he look 16 to you?

[@jackandy3959]

+Adrian Onute My bad sorry mate thanks for informing me.

[@shaurya6601]

he has written content for Frankie Boyle. you gotta have some meat in you to write for Frankie Boyle.

[@adrianonute1855]

***** it's a TED conference, people are not mentally prepared in that hall to be made to laugh.

[@gastonkostas2520]

Little did he know, he will become a legend by destroying relationships and marriages 😂

[@isabellefeasel7000]

😂😂😂

[@GeneralAblon]

I'm sorry, am I missing something? I watched some of his work, but I do not get the reference.

[@YunoSaiko]

Maverick Sean Quiñones I had the great idea of watching that special with my Ex girlfriend.......before she became my ex the next morning....

[@yemiadeshokan7883]

@@YunoSaiko absolute madlad

[@jessicaextra]

He is a huge part of why I am now single (8 year relationship) 😂🤦🏻‍♀️

[@ro_ses]

"They jumped in front of a bullet that was headed towards a tree"

[@FgFrQg]

+UmgKh They were treehuggers

[@JulianTimMusic]

IS HE IMPLYING THAT TREES ARE UNIMPORTANT AND USELESS???

[@BassLineProductionsI]

@@JulianTimMusic I think more along the lines that a tree is tough enough to endure it

[@caniscerulean]

To be fair, the tree stores carbon and releases oxygen, which is more value than most of these types give the world. (Trees are also smart enough not to clump their vital organs together in a way that makes them vulnerable to small random projectiles)

[@BassLineProductionsI]

@@caniscerulean very true, good story?

[@MissLyss228]

I love how he still delivers it like a comedy set

[@BetterLifeAhead35]

I love the points he makes. He's more astute than many comedians. I'm a feminist, part of the LGBT community, a trauma survivor, disabled, etc, but still, I love good humor. People need to recognize the difference between mocking something and pointing out the ridiculousness of some aspects of a situation. Without humor I wouldn't survive this stuff. I don't think it's mockable, but there's some hilarious stuff is pretty much anything

[@raz8772]

BetterLifeAhead watch his special on netflix im sure you will love it

[@NathanielJordan85]

YES! Exactly! Folks need to get past the content of a joke and look at what the joke is laughing at, and people seem REALLY bad at figuring that out (which begs the question: why are they laughing if they can't tell why?? X-P).

[@irvine_gray]

You're a comedians wet dream 😂

[@DunderHead.5000]

Dave Chappelle.

[@PolishDork]

Odds say, probably vegan too

[@celinakay4367]

I learned something today. This was a good 14 minutes.

[@burnsshipps455]

Celina Kay little late but you forgot the one second

[@mzmayer7502]

Offensive comedy is probably the funniest kind of comedy because it's the truest and deepest fears and imagination that each of us have and twisting it into humor so the fear doesn't cripple you or hold you back.

[@hinrichroll-naumann6313]

word!

[@Euthanasia-rc1pm]

That's a beautiful way to phrase it. And yeah, it does bring a smile to my face.

[@leonardomun-ra2928]

I would recommend legion of skanks

[@ShadowCrowX]

Glad I found this guy through Conan

[@DerekMac96]

Lol dude me too!

[@Daydreamer4004]

same :D

[@bellabursulaya2090]

Me three!

[@stanleybulman-fleming487]

Me four!

[@tomlavora9202]

Stanley Bulman-Fleming me too.

[@formoftherapy]

Perhaps the most awe inspiring and thought provoking thing I've ever seen.

[@AvatardSwag]

Hey! Fancy seeing you here! I love your channel!!!

[@panickysociety97]

Well this is unexpected, seeing you here. But I totally agree.

[@coena9377]

You should watch his comedy special "Jigsaw", it's on Netflix. Very thought provoking.

[@tobilobaadaramati7758]

Hey nice seeing you here

[@ufarmecosystems1290]

Lol... you might want to broaden your horizons then.

[@Terrezio]

“Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right” - Ricky Gervais

[@fara2321]

Twitter would break if you put that statement on there, cause nothing else happens on Twitter.

[@FYT608]

The slossness monster !!!

[@odetteuys1111]

FYT608 aka the Slossage! lol

[@thetertinator9562]

I've heard it tastes like dental Sloss

[@fox3015]

@@thetertinator9562 😂😂😂😂😂 i see you've watched dark.

[@JulianTimMusic]

The Tertinator I’ve heard it causes penissloss

[@Cdre_Satori]

Because no one has ever seen it. :D

[@pugazhv1460]

10 years after this has been released and yet it still holds so true and so neatly presented

[@alexanderlittlejohn7136]

Too bad no one too few have listened.

[@PatchWorkClock]

The only mic you're hearing from is his, because the audio is meant to emphasize and make clear what he says. This whole seeming lack of crowd reaction is common on comedic TED talks, simply because you can't hear whether or not they're laughing.

[@sSunbeamM]

thanks for clearing up!

[@PatchWorkClock]

jakexter1 Audio adjusts. Like on Skype, with my mic, if I go quiet for a while, the mic will focus on other noises. It's just the way the mic calibrates.

[@darwins-own]

I think it doesn't matter whether you hear laughter or not in this talk, it depends on if you agree or disagree

[@kateyn-3811]

Sunny p

[@laneythelame]

the audience should be laughing more tho :(

[@Ghostrebel017]

It's Ted, not exactly the right platform, but I do agree that there was some funny stuff there.

[@tierraabeyta5892]

I've also seen before with shows like this that the audio for the video is what is recorded through the mic he is using so it doesn't pick up the audio from the audience as loud. For example, I watched a recording from a live show that someone in the audience recorded on their phone and the audience's laughter was really loud. But listening to the official recording of that same show, the comedians were clearly heard and the audience was really quiet background noise.

[@stranraerwal]

BurningONIc3: the audience is almost dead...the sitting dead !

[@eul-elt2088]

Yes, however, clearly, members of this Ted-Talk audience think they are intellectually superior and came with sticks up their butts.

[@arijeetnath9236]

That's a depressing audience

[@sajjanrajvaidya]

A much needed message put very neatly.

[@aakashkc5023]

Wau you're a fan of him too?

[@FernandoValleG]

"A story is just a story and a joke is just a joke." Love this.

[@danieldumas7361]

Daniel is all of 22 years young and can eloquently break down the structure of stand-up comedy. EPICLY AWESOME!

[@hwickstrand]

Daniel Sloss is to me one of the funniest comedians out there today and i couldn’t agree more with him in this speech! Thank you Daniel for being you!

[@marwaelsakhawy993]

Its really sad that we live in a time where you have to explain that jokes...are jokes. Well done Daniel Sloss!!

[@nejx8711]

If I may... "Being offended on someone's behalf is like jumping in front of a bullet headed for a tree..." - Daniel Sloss I had turn the words around a little bit to make it fit into a better quote form, one of my favourite quotes ever, to be honest...

[@toobasaurus23]

Why I love Daniel's comedy. He is an incredible storyteller.

[@viiix1695]

His voice and that accent 🥺 it's quite mesmerizing... I couldn't stop listening

[@MorfMusic]

The audience aren’t bad; I did a tedx last year; they only mic you, so if you can hear ANY laughter then chances are the audience were in total hysterics as his mic managed to pick some of it up

[@andrewphan8002]

Rlyyyyy?

[@fernandosousa5480]

Brilliant. Never thought of it like this. Found you on Conan been in love since then. Btw thank you for all you metions of gay people. They are very refreshing

[@jasonschneijder2012]

when did he mention gays?

[@fernandosousa5480]

Jason Schneijder Oh he makes jokes about gay people in his stand ups, and I like them that's all. Because they do not downgrade us and touchs topics in a way that draws attention to them as well as introducing a new prespective

[@rubinapopal7642]

same! i too found him on conon and have been his fan since!

[@gust___]

Fernando Sousa Haha! I found him on Conan too!

[@samppawest]

Sloss is a genius. Pure and simple. Him and Bo Burnham have brains that were turbo charged before they hit puberty. Awe inspiring and a bit scary at the same time.

[@nickgribben]

What an incredible talk from someone who demonstrates an astounding level of self awareness, not that age is the measure of such things but the very human and relatable delivery of a very poignant topic is so effective that I’m a bit lost for words. Well done Daniel!

[@andy4an]

Agreement with "don't get offended on behalf of others" Disagreement with "it's only a story" Public speakers of every kind should take their microphone seriously. Stories have great power, and there is more than one TED talk that expounds upon that. When a comic perpetuates and enforces damaging stereotypes, we SHOULD call attention to it. Not in order to attack the comic, but to bring the issue to public consciousness. The best comics do this themselves with their own jokes. But all that said, this talk made me laugh, made me think, made me analyze, and made me discuss. Therefore; a successful talk.

[@StOrmZIsoNItZWaY]

He addressed this with his "specific audience" point. Speakers should cater to their audience. Seldom do comedians speak to the whole country. They speak to their audience, which is there to see a comedy show that may or may not be controversial.

[@messedupdude]

weesh ful Agreed. But he is attacking the fact that many comedians are being attacked for their jokes. if they use their jokes to bring awareness to an issue, its just ironic that they get flack for it. for example, a comedian jokes about racism in a country in a light hearted manner which brought awareness to it a little, next morning, "COMEDIAN THINKS RACISM IS A JOKE. HE HIMSELF COULD BE RACIST"

[@StOrmZIsoNItZWaY]

^It's called "satire".

[@AndreiHognogi]

Keith Siah ugh, you're wrong. We should make jokes about bad things. Problems like racism or homophobia exist because people still regard some things as taboo. Making jokes about such things is de-taboo-ing them, and so, making them an non-issue. Do I make racist jokes? plenty. Do I base any of my decisions based on someone's color of skin? no, that's racist.

[@messedupdude]

Andrei Hognogi dude I agree with you so I don't get how I'm wrong. I was explaining to the guy I replied to how ironic it is that comedians are getting flack for being racist when in fact their jokes have brought awareness to racism

[@DianeHampson]

I've seen him do interviews and his stand up and I love the way his mind works. He'd a deep thinker and challenges the norm. What a diamond😍

[@madentirelyofawesome]

For anyone in the comments who is angry at the audience for not participating in a customarily comedic-responsive way... this isn't a comedy show. This was a TED Talk. It's great that he made it funny, but if you don't pick up that the tone is completely different, you're intentionally missing the point.

[@LukeGibsonSS]

What are you talking about? There are plenty of Ted talks where the speaker uses comedy to engage an audience and the audience reciprocates accordingly. Even in political speeches, Presidents make jokes at formal events to tons of laughter. Even at science events with people like Richard Dawkins, Lawrence Krauss or Neil Degrasse Tyson there are plenty of comical moments at such events. Laugher is not restricted to comedy shows. Comedy and humour are bonding and learning tools between audience and speaker and an essential part of many such events.

[@madentirelyofawesome]

Luke Gibson What point of mine are you arguing? I didn't make any of the arguments that you're implying I made. Let me try to clarify: some comments say 'shit audience' I'm assuming because they were expecting the audience to respond in a very comedy-scene way (tons of laughter, hoots, etc. - you know). I'm just saying that at a comedy show, Comedy is the whole theme. The format for our response is a choreographed one. At a TED Talk or any of the thousands of examples you listed, Comedy is supporting cast. The tone is different. The audience responds differently to a different set of stimuli. It's a very funny TED Talk, but making us laugh is not the point of the Talk. The point is to have us take away a new understanding of comedy from the perspective of a storyteller. tl;dr: I don't know what you're arguing, but hopefully we can agree that tone is different across different platforms.

[@LukeGibsonSS]

madentirelyofawesome ?!?! What about my comment didn't you get? I'm completely disagreeing with you. No, tone is not different across different platforms. They are a shit audience, just because something isn't a comedy show doesn't mean the audience has to be reserved and non responsive.

[@madentirelyofawesome]

Luke Gibson Alright then, thanks for sharing your thoughts. I think I explained my point well enough and it feels right to me, so I think this is the end of my input.

[@LukeGibsonSS]

madentirelyofawesome Yes, you explained it very well. It's just incorrect.

[@kamarpreet]

I think Daniel is one of the smartest people of his generation. I absolutely admire him for being able to covey any message across so skillfully. He keeps his audience captivated no matter the topic! He is an amazing storyteller!!

[@rachellani7425]

I really like this talk, though. This is how you reframe thinking and start an edifying conversation about comedy. Mad respect.

[@kristinachepak8696]

I didn’t expect to learn life lessons from Daniel Sloss lol. The delivery is amazing. Yesterday - jigsaw, Today - not to take things so seriously, especially stories told by comedians haha. Thanks, Daniel!

[@curtiswilliams7122]

Absolutely brilliant. Very well thought out very well spoken. This is why I love Daniel. Great talk.

[@kintaro817oegaming9]

This man is so smart and deep. Love his comedy and his way of expressing himself

[@jlb-mg7od]

Love this guys art! Came across him on Netflix and both “Dark” and “Jigsaw” have such powerful topics that just hit the nail on the head! He’s doing a US tour right now and I’m so excited to see his show “X” next month! This guy needs to become the next best thing in America! He’s killing it!

[@bulbboy20]

I just watched the X stand up show and it was great hope you enjoyed seeing it live

[@ernestoguidos8968]

This man I brilliant. I love how he goes in depth with subjects. Great Job Daniel!☺👌👍

[@pondguard22]

I have been saying this since about 2009-2010 - Daniel Sloss is an underrated genius & people need to listen to him more. Not only is he hilarious, but the vast majority of the time he is objectively correct & people hate it, which is part of his genius!

[@forshizzlemywizzle]

This is such an incredible talk.

[@markncl100]

Love Daniel, saw him last month in Durham, he's fantastic!

[@daisyabyaru9311]

Just watching this and beating myself for never having known of Daniel Sloss till this year. This is an excellent talk given his youth. I agree with the person who says its sad that we live in an era where we have to explain that a joke is a joke. Well done!

[@mistershopen7866]

Love you Dan. Nailing it. Enjoy being a new and fabulous rising star!

[@johnpirie3800]

I found this guy through Conan, via my partners son John, who said give him a watch and see what you think. Several you-tube videos later and for one so young, he is so funny. How a kid can talk this way using the subject matter that he does. One for the future. You got to check this guy out. Refreshing and very funny!!

[@forexalised9053]

+John Pirie Lots of people at the age of 22 can talk this way, its old naivety that looks down on our generation. You should have more chats with people our age, we can be quite open minded and intelligent ;)

[@SaintInix]

Forexalised Doesn't hurt that his mother has a PhD in biology or microbiology and his dad is a programmer. He comes from good genetics.

[@finestein1931]

@@SaintInix more importantly is that he had good education.

[@markhales7808]

One of my favourite comedians making an extremely valid point. It makes absolutely no sense when a comedian, who is clearly saying something to get some reaction, and obviously does not mean it, gets called out on social media or even conventional media for offending people who, by all means, have no reason to get offended. Also, there was some great humour in here but I suppose it's not really the best platform for humour overall.

[@mecharenastuff]

Superb talk! I didn't lose interest or miss a word he said. Thought provoking, logical and a solid piece. Great job mate!

[@LoveKills250]

"Offended on behalf of others" this was 8 years ago he was talking about, and now in 2021 more widespread than ever!

[@cheonsazu]

I found this amazing. He made many great points.

[@AdrianHertz]

That was a brilliant spech about comedy

[@guliyafayzullina3366]

What a great speech! This guy deserves a standing ovation

[@itsserhioball]

Gosh, Sloss is great storyteller! One of the best! Love his shows.

[@thisisaname9104]

I really love Daniel. He is hella awesome. He deserves more.

[@1234dhrifjevdigjr]

100% one of the best comedians in the world

[@bublesspop]

I freaking love this guy, and I waited so long for him to put out a new clip, but the audience is just so solemn!

[@EN-kb5ow]

So beautifully said.... His confidence is inspiring....

[@ritwikchakraborty2805]

Daniel Sloss...you my friend deserve a candy! loved your comedy and delivery style and way to go :)

[@serenityacheron]

Just seeing this for the first time. Eating it up, as usual, Daniel. You are a gifted storyteller. Period. I enjoy your work.

[@svrt5832]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Wow!!! Fantastic!!! Very well presented!

[@robtex96]

The first time in my life where comedy is so serious in 14 minutes and keeps a thread of fun that's makes me hold on to the video until the end. Daniel Sloss is revolutionary...

[@natashapereira2123]

And this is why I respect and love this guy :D his so funny and I agree with everything he said during this!

[@kenetabansi5016]

There’s a difference between mocking the people and mocking the situation. (It’s also different if your mocking a specific person that is your sibling or friend) and that’s were the difference is with Daniel sloss and comedians that do offensive comedy well. You can mock the situation a lot of oppressed groups are in without mocking the people themselves.

[@retribution1979]

Been a huge fan since discovered him on KZbin. Daniel Sloss is such a funny and obviously incredibly intelligent person. Well spoken

[@elouisewills9923]

WOOOOOOOOOO!!! The little red riding hood was my favourite part but I loved it all!!!❤❤❤

[@rosiearts7199]

I love the way he looks at life. Bc a lot of times what he talks about is exactly what I think too. He just phrases it better😂 the world is full of stories. Everything is a story in one way or another. I think stories are one of the most important things in the world. Because it’s how we connect with others. It’s how we teach, it’s how we laugh, its how we think, it’s everything. And don’t even get me started on jigsaw. That sets a masterpiece. Ain’t nobody touching my puzzle😂

[@downer_dave]

Im with you on that. Jigsaw is the greatest life advice we could ever receive. It was not only life changing, but also mind altering. I'm proud to say that I'm one of the lives he saved. Where's his Nobel Peace Prize!!!!

[@Shrieqer]

I can't believe he was talking about this 8 years ago.

[@hellspawn007]

Just heard of this guy and watched his netflix specials, the guy is an amazing storyteller, watching this video of him at 22 makes me wonder just how famous he's going to be in the near future.

[@DunderHead.5000]

I keep coming back from time to time. My favorite Ted Talk. The only thing not mentioned is the audience having complete control of changing the channel, not going to a show etc.

[@bl8096]

Yes we all more or less have the right to tell our stories our way, but the larger our audience, the more responsibility we also have to be more careful about what we said could affect others. The stories someone told to a few mates is not comparable to what Daniel Sloss could deliver to a large audience. Responsibility and accountability is the extra price you'd pay for having a larger influence as a popular comedian.

[@blazeisabella]

I know I just watched this and it's an old video but my gosh he really hit the nail on the head

[@sameerbhamra8110]

WELL SAID! Daniel nailed it. i love all his comedy and it’s crazy he’s so young. i can’t believe how dull the audience was tho

[@spsxssd86]

Brilliantly constructed talk, argument and comedy. Good balance of jokes and serious tone. His stand up is pretty good too.

[@kelseyd610]

This guy sure makes a point. And he delvers it with effortlessly constructed humour:D Definitely worth a watch.

[@EmIdc]

He's intelligent, funny and has a lovely accent, amazing

[@LeicLO]

Love this guy!! Can't wait to come see one of your shows man!

[@95garyl]

This is the best Ted Talk. Very informative and inciteful.

[@SickIdiot]

People seem to forget that comedy is comedy, and jokes are not meant to hurt people.They're just meant to make you laugh.

[@hooliganism7536]

Nice speech. Very intelligent ideas

[@LennyJay16]

This may be one of my favorite TED talks I've watched so far - insightful, accessible, and far from pretentious.

[@4x4PearlyInCA]

Still the best Ted talk EVER. Saved in my KZbin and I watch it a few times a year. Just damn Daniel.

[@rigby102010]

That was a lot better then I expected.

[@mobubabe]

Oh didnt know he's so great and mindful off the comedy stage. Really deep talk.

[@aca2883]

Amazing talk. Everything he said still makes sense. Great guy, thanks!

[@AndrewJShirley]

You beautiful legend! Absolutely LOVED this!

[@prett8524]

Why am i seeing this 7 years later this applies to so many people these days in this society still

[@mihirmukhopadhaya9724]

That's one smart 22 year old.

[@Thayra]

Well I hope he knows that I absolutely adore him, and can't get enough of him. Keep up the great work, Daniel! :D

[@SpeakTagalogWithJC]

Just finished watching X. God I love this guy. I love him even more after watching this

[@bryanjortiz-serrano5775]

I keep seeing this guy and I start to love him more

[@ThaliaEatsDonuts]

Dead audience, This guy is SO FUNNY

[@NateSean]

It's a TedTalk, not a comedy show.

[@justinberry3749]

Absolutely brilliant! Thank you

[@swarajbhatia5982]

This should be one of the most watched TEDx Talks ever.

[@KeisteSnipes36]

The world today has become extremely over sensitive to everything. I completely agree with him, you don't have the right to be offended for someone.

[@crystaldelancey7160]

Please watch his Netflix special Dark. He is amazing.

[@user-rd3xc9in4y]

Jigsaw is worth a go as well. I've also seen his show "X" live, but I honestly have no idea where to find it. Highly recommend if you find a way to watch it

[@MaxIronsThird]

good joke found

[@WyrmWyzard]

@@user-rd3xc9in4y HBO Max

[@Ruthiebear1000]

I love this guy! THANK YOU CONAN!

[@KMWiltz13]

He's extremely well spoken and mature. His routines are hilarious. I adore him.

[@xirtall2]

A fantastic and intelligent talk.

[@johnlong8952]

After listening to this you have to check out his Netflix special. It's amazing.

[@jessicaextra]

Absolute favourite comedian. Saw him live last year and I left with a stitch from laughing so hard.

[@Mark70609]

Beautifully done and it all makes sense. The best point he makes is hope are you offended on behalf of other people? If someone is being bullied then stand up for them, but the preemptive strike against someone may be immoral.