The triple package: Amy Chua & Jed Rubenfeld at TEDxUMassAmherst 2014

[@baseballhatgurl6462]

"there is no long successful groups but successful individuals!" love it

[@songryoducher9815]

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[@HS-ie8tj]

My parents always stressed the importance of education. I recall my father telling me at the age of 12 (after forcing me to spend hours and hours on math problems I initially couldn't do) that I would someday understand the value of laying down such foundations. I remember how I would fight against and resist the work my parents expected me to put in when I was younger. Now I know that without their stance on such matters I would never have accomplished a thing today. I hope I've made them both proud by pursuing a career in Statistics at one of the best universities in the world. I am eternally indebted to my parents for their hard work and encouragement.

[@bellakim9169]

:)

[@cruzan8183]

Do not dismiss what these folks are saying. This can apply to any group.My parents pushed me and I am grateful for that. The expectations that are placed on you can propel an average student to achieve levels of success that no one thought possible. Asians have not cornered the market on success . Blacks can thrive as well. My parents instilled a love for learning and achievement in me. I am disturbed when I witness the low expectations that certain groups have.

[@harveylin3548]

The bigotry of low exceptions, so true.

[@simranbajaj671]

Cruzan Most people don't take issue with the high standards but more so with the emotional abuse described

[@iwishicouldthinkofabettern8159]

She explained that anyone can do this, but usually only Jews, Asians, and Mormons do this.

[@GodsOwnPrototype]

The word that encompasses both cultural practices & biological traits is Heritability. Correct, The triple package Can apply generally to individuals of any group. However it does not apply to any Individual of any group specifically because potential capacity does have biologically determining factors. Also, neither individuals nor ethnic groups begin from a level start neither biologically nor culturally. This existence of a spectrum of capacity & ability is why allowing divided contained segregated populations is the ethical path. We don't consider it moral for feather & heavy weights to fight in the same ring, or for children, adolescents and adults to be subject to the same standards of responsibility etc. The point is having a reasonable solid foundational floor of vaule & worth assigned to all as a given starting point. The issue currently is that this has been unreasonably inflated to unrealistic and unsustainable levels of entitlement at the same time as punatively applied double standards.

[@bellakim9169]

:)

[@happiness5665]

Love Amy! Her commitment to motherhood and her children’s success is truly admirable

[@adrianabarnard6402]

When I was a kid I always thought there must be a secret to success and I finally feel like I found it. It’s exactly the way my husband was raised by military parents and when he would describe how he would want to raise a child I had some pushback because I didn’t fully understand being that I came from really gentle parenting but I did always felt like I wanted my parents to be stricter which says a lot about the level of gentle parenting my parents were doing if even their children thought they were too relaxed.

[@helloforever314]

Anyone who thinks this video is racist either 1) didn't watch the whole video 2) lacks verbal comprehension

[@manuelmoraleda9285]

Push your kids hard but with love. Like in Boot Camp, discipline, preparation, and expectation are what count. There's a saying that sending a soldier who was not well trained to war is throwing him or her away. Excellent talk. Thank you. I think every parent should listen to this talk at least once.

[@mauricemorty4687]

every journalist i ve read online about amy and jed, they all say that it's about race. i can't believe how intentionally misleading theese journalist are. Amy and Jed are awesome people

[@PianistStefanBoetel]

I read Amy‘s Battle Hymn of a Tiger Mum. Amy and Jed represent a fascinating melange of mentalities as a couple. Also for me, they embody Amercian East Coast intellectualism at his best.

[@freyfaust6218]

I went from the gutter to a relatively stable and adequate income. I did it by working hard and staying focused, not through academic achievement, as I was on my own at 15 and had no means to pay for schooling.

[@nelsonzambrano5788]

Academic achievement is NOT just the classroom...You must've become good at a specific set of skills to achieve what you've achieved...The "field"is just an extension of the classroom, consider it 'graduate school'.

[@freyfaust6218]

@nelsonzambrano5788 if you don't have the privilege of school, you make do with the public library and direct mentoring

[@IceColdProfessional]

I've read the book and it illuminated me!

[@the_famous_reply_guy]

To me working hard is not the purpose of life, love and helping our world heal.

[@babybaby5893]

Intelligent, wise and Amazing couple! ❤❤

[@deborahdarlienmawi6057]

i wish if my parents has pushed me more than this. I think i could have achieved more as i was young and did not know what was good for me...

[@JP-gt6mu]

Such a relief to hear this.

[@shk00design]

Besides pushing for academic success, some Asian parents also have expectations the kids will be like a clone of themselves so that doctors will only see their kids become doctors or dentists. Being successful in a way that is against the expectation of your parents or some kind of artificial "family tradition" can bring about conflict. Like when your father wants you to get into science in college and you ended up applying for law school sort of thing. The core of the message is like in the 1988 movie: "Stand and Deliver" where the math teacher Jaime Escalante inspired his students to work hard at calculus so that they can go to college at a time when unionized factory jobs were common. Many of the students being Hispanics were told to push themselves to break the stereotype they were inferior.

[@terryterry8376]

When people claim this book is racists they are making light of actual racism in the country

[@pankow2893]

In 1962 my father told me if I didn't study hard I would end up on the Bowery, a bum. He drove me through for emphasis.

[@HH-xs2gm]

Success? Bitch please. Define success. I can tell you guys 1 thing what makes extraordinary people do what they do. They seek a higher meaning in life.

[@rmwtsou]

A superiority complex is the result of achievement/success, not the cause of it. Chronically low-achieving people have little to feel superior about while high-achieving people look down on them.

[@rmwtsou]

Tony Ryu, With Amy Chua and Jed Rubenfeld's superior intellectual genes, their kids cannot HELP but be high-achievers. A little guidance to steer them toward the right direction is all that's usually needed. Amy Chua didn't even have to be so "tigerish" about being a mom. We Chinese have a saying: 龍生龍, 鳳生鳳, 老鼠的兒子會打洞 ("dragons beget dragons, phoenixes beget phoenixes, sons of mice are good at digging holes".) So the first and possibly the most important secret to high achievement: choose your parents VERY CAREFULLY.

[@zadeh79]

Not true. There are some people who believe in fate, and that fate favors them. Irrational perhaps, but entirely useful.

[@davidlee8406]

Despite the glowing success these ethnic and religious groups this couple are trying to point out, I suspect inner happiness and peace are still elusive to most of them as to rest us. The data they have not gathered or released is survey of the children who later grown up thought that the experience they went through was healthy or if they preferred otherwise.

[@nelsonzambrano5788]

Inner happiness and peace is part of what causes people to be mediocre...It doesn't push you forward...Makes it easy to quit, under the guise of 'inner happiness and peace'.

[@jmcm152]

Brilliant! 👍💪👊

[@simurgh1901]

well done

[@saywatavailike]

Nothing is generic and to follow a formula, especially when it comes to educate a living being. To a moderate extent the triple package would work as long as the parents provide patience and their ears to listen to their children.

[@Helenlegenerous]

In the rewards and punishment system - Asian Parents seem to favour the punishment side and not just physical but emotional punishment where anything less than 100% is 'not good enough' and the guilt that the family puts on the child is sometimes worse than any physical punishment

[@jeanfernandez5397]

I agree with you 100%, but you people turn out almost perfect haha.

[@davidlee8406]

Seems like a weird statistic to prove their point. Rather, it seems to suggest that one gets a better chance of getting into a prestigious business school if one is from a rich family from a third world country as compared to your not-as-privileged local African Americans.

[@snarkyremark6632]

As someone who comes from a household that was very strict, academics included, i find this awful. They make it seem great, but the reality of the situation is you have to let your kids fail. You have to let them build ambition and self discipline and get them to WANT to preservere in what they do. If you control everything your kid does and base their value off of their academic success, youre in for a very bad fucking ride

[@Lionforaday]

Agreed. Your comment, however, would have more credibility if you used your real name rather than a meaningless moniker. When someone won't use their real name, it leaves me - and maybe others - wondering why. It sounds like you have another take on this perspective, and it's certainly one worth considering. When I was in med school, I recall hearing of suicides, and while I can't say for certain that these, historically, were all from first-generation families, the three I knew about were.

[@Kriskazam]

yeah, you're really missing out on much of the human experience if you don't offer them these things

[@zadeh79]

And look what you turned to be...a youtube troll.

[@Kriskazam]

Ztech yeah exactly his point

[@Kriskazam]

Ztech was that meant to be an own? Your digital tone of voice makes it so

[@mediokritet]

so the triple package is narcissism with good impulse control? gotcha

[@anjalijha5014]

You forgot insecurity

[@physicianskitchen]

@@anjalijha5014 insecurity + superiority = narcissism

[@oo-xm4cg]

i read the news

[@GreatMan_from_East]

Justice sonia Sotomayor

[@kellykim3684]

True

[@2Athenewins]

Jed is a good speaker. Amy seemed like she rehearsed it wayyyy too much, just memorised the words, no feeling at all.

[@janexian9232]

ToxicityIsButASymptom her husband is smarter lol, tho Amy is also talented

[@sinnombre5466]

I wonder what they have to say about the Virginia tech incident, were a socialy awkward tiger cub lost his shit.

[@prometheus9443]

You know, just because you're East Asian, doesn't mean you're responsible for all East Asian people's behavior.

[@sunshinydayz1]

You missed the mark completely. This is dangerous rhetoric, the one and only reason we achieve and in some cases over achieve is because we know and recognize our identity as children of a Heavenly Father who helps us and blesses us in our lives to become more than we knew we could to bless our own families and this great nation as a whole. Doctors and business owners heal people and provide jobs to keep America great. There is nothing to do with any complexes. Your rhetoric is dangerous and twisted. Recognize and be grateful we still have any who desire to take the risks necessary to become great things in a country quickly turning socialist!

[@smalltiny]

Not everything is academics. Yes, it is important to take your studies and work seriously, but it is nothing if you cannot handle social interactions well. By directing every move of a child, you rob them of the chance to make mistakes when they are young, when there are few consequences to social mistakes. Her children are going to have very difficult personal lives. If not, I'd be very happy for them.

[@IceColdProfessional]

4surprisingly Again, you missed the whole point. Her kids are actually doing quite well.

[@smalltiny]

Again what? Who the fuck are you, we never spoke before.

[@CatSmithers]

4surprisingly what? Her children are doing supremely well lol

[@jarrodyuki7081]

japan will retake the kurils sakhalin and vladivostok south korea will take north korea.

[@HarvinderSandhuEsq]

My parents never pushed me and I still succeeded because I have a high IQ. IQ is everything in this world. Hard work is a distant second to IQ in this world

[@zadeh79]

You "succeeded" not because your IQ makes you special, but because they let you in on an SAT test, instead of test of achievement, because there is a lack of mid-level jobs (especially for STEM majors), there is an absurd corporate over-emphasis on rapid elementary changes (which is the only thing IQ is good for) , and because we live in an unfortunate era where 'education and experience don't matter'. In other words, the system was paved out for your types; completely biased in your favor. So IQ is little more than a glorified short-term memory test that is hailed by severe achievement < IQ types and graying anglophiles indulging in a delusional sense of intellect.

[@johnmartinez7599]

You want a cookie?

[@HarvinderSandhuEsq]

Nigerians lol 25% of 1% is still 0.25%

[@seanojha5784]

That's not what she said lmao

[@zadeh79]

@@seanojha5784 He's showing his "northern" superiority.

[@guysovereign]

She just wants to sell books.

[@ivandate9972]

what if everybody are felt superior, felt insecure and had impulse control... somebody must win .... by .... genetic advantages.

[@wendyliu4775]

Are you implying that if an asian kid is brought up the exact same way as a white kid the asian kid will do better in something like math? Cause that's so untrue lol.

[@ivandate9972]

the key word taken from economic science ... agregate

[@SC-uq2jf]

The book conveniently left out the SYSTEMIC RACISM which is still doled out disproportionately to people of color. This book could have been a page ripped out of early jim crow.

[@racheldee751]

The majority of the races described in this book are “ people of color”. Jealous much ?

[@erinchilds]

Systemic racism breeds laziness. Laziness is self perpetuating.

[@HarvinderSandhuEsq]

Yeah some races are superior to others (northern races). They evolved to be smarter because of their harsh environs.

[@sweatyalbama8663]

not true, the average iq of those countries is less compared to asian/southeast countries

[@jarrodyuki7081]

japan will retake the kurils sakhalin and vladivostok south korea will take north korea.