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@maxliu30412 жыл бұрын
Imo Nina has the most underrated throw game in the game. She has multiple throws on each break, including a mini giant swing, a floorbreak throw, multiple throws which either give strong oki mixups or guaranteed follow ups, chain throws on 1 and 2 breaks which can do 60+ damage + either guaranteed follow ups or great oki, as well as maybe her most underrated throw in her back sway unblockable chainthrow starter which can be setup from wall combos. She also has access to her chainthrows from hit throws in an i13 ws punisher and follow ups from jab strings.
@HiroshimaTakanaki7872 жыл бұрын
I love Nina as a character but if KAZUMI HAS AN ABSOLUTELY ( Which I Doubt ) UNBREAKABLE THROW SHOULDN'T SHE BE WITH THE KINGS 👑 !!!!???
@wisdomseeker01422 жыл бұрын
They don’t hear you. Nina is my baby and no one likes her and feels she’s scrubbish yet very few people know how to “ perfect ss1”cancel which is one of the most difficult things you can do consistently in this game. She can also relaunch you for a nasty combo after some of her throws, she’s great.
@seryip2 жыл бұрын
She indeed does have an unbreakable throw, which is balanced around the fact that it does 15 damage, comes from a stance and is pretty slow, but it can wallsplat or make your opponent not techroll after certain combos which opens some ways to get a combo reset. She does have prob the best throw game out of t7 original chars, but nothing more
@reece-6ix2 жыл бұрын
My niggaa..... Chill
@AfroKing.2 жыл бұрын
@@HiroshimaTakanaki787 No. Just because Eddy, Yoshi, and Negan have unbreakable throws, doesn't mean they're on the same level.
@expiredwater47092 жыл бұрын
5:27 Although the average Taekwondo class and teachings focuses on striking rather than grappling, Hwoarang’s moveset includes grappling as it fits with his backstory of him being in the military (Tekken 4). And in Korea, South Korean Special Forces learn TGMS which is a combatitive method of taekwondo fit for survival which includes some submission moves, hence Hwoarang’s grappling.
@Kenlac922 жыл бұрын
Yoshi does have another throw, its actually an umblockable attack throw that you need to go into dragonfly stance to access. But if you can condition the opponent to respect you after blocking 3~4, you have an opportunity to cancel into dragonfly to use this throw and secure a side switch.
@SlashpLOder2 жыл бұрын
sry, thats a bad idea, trying to condition the opponent to respect 3~4, jab is always a good choice no matter if you into dragonfly or not, but still you can use it once in a while by just randomly goes instantly into dragonfly (u+3+4) when opponent is respecting you too much plus you can can input u/f, u+3+4 to trick your opponent ever more. and on top of that, it's a floorbreak which leads into a full combo thx to cd+2
@Kenlac922 жыл бұрын
@@SlashpLOderif an opponent jab checks after tsunami kicks, you can do tsunami kicks into kinsho parry. If they did a jab string it will knock them down for oki. If they did a single jab they will be minus 4. If they now decide to just do a slower move, you can flash. They have to either bait out your trap, or perform an unblockable. 3~4 into dragonfly absolutely works when the opponent isnt sure of which level of the mindgame you are going to stop, and they turtle up. Dgf is also not u3+4, thats just his teleporting flip kick. Dgf is u1+2
@SlashpLOder2 жыл бұрын
@@Kenlac92 yeah you are right about the inputs, it was way too late for me, but still, the tsunami kicks mix-up (if you wanna call it that way) is in the favour of your opponent, on a single jab (no string, just a jab) you get a float combo and don't get into dragonfly mix-up, and if yoshi decides to do the KIN-parry he is only +4 and his mix-up without any stance is weaker than in Dragonfly. and if you wanna do bigbrain time like for instance eyemusician, you just bait the KIN-parry and do a sidestep into d/f+2 (or another i15 launcher) and launch punish his weak attempt
@thmistrapillay18112 жыл бұрын
@@SlashpLOder dragonfly is u1+2, unless you're talking about the transition then its 3~4 u hold
@SlashpLOder2 жыл бұрын
@@thmistrapillay1811 yeah my fault, messed up, it was 2 am past midnight, bear with me xD
@gg.no.re.2 жыл бұрын
Nina also has chain grabs and a throw that is unbreakable on the first part
@deanbrooks72972 жыл бұрын
People tend to forget her craziness for some reason but that's true.
@redgluster2 жыл бұрын
Nina hand is really small that some of the grab is look like 1+2 but it's not. And the wall sway grab is unbreakable. She's A+ no doubt.
@Xbox.43882 жыл бұрын
Yeah and her grabs and chain grabs are the best.
@djmj10002 жыл бұрын
Yoshi should be at B. Rainbow drop is only 11 frames and bufferable and uninterruptable after 1 jab unless crushing and launches and leads to backturn medium oki situation or launch on floor breaks. That throw is OP on those stages especially in rage. Further he has another 1+2 throws (life siphon) and mediocre unbreakable throws from stances. Still they are unbreakable but deal good damage. 11f and bufferable is all i need for basic frame traps on hit since it beats most options. Yoshi rainbow drop is stronger or even to kazumi 1+2 since its 1 frame faster. At wall kazumi is better but on floor break yoshi. Its even for me and i play both chars.
@AnonymityIx2 жыл бұрын
Pretty solid list. I'd put Julia above Law and Hwoarang above jin and devil jin. Julia has a 1+2 from crouch, uf1+2, mad axes and her f+3,1+2, two throws on crouching opponents and break walls with her 2 break if her back is to the wall. She also has 2 different throws from their back which is interesting. Hwoarang has a lot of set ups with a true backturned mix up on top of having every throw break with good oki on most of them.
@mushi97662 жыл бұрын
By his definition Ling has a perfect throw game. plus the throw that can lead to a launch. She even in back turn has a throw that is a 50/50 depending on which buttons your press. Either a 1 or a 2 break
@astarael092 жыл бұрын
I agree, she has so many options for throws. But MM doesn't like Ling so won't recognise that.
@krisvalderrama90432 жыл бұрын
@@astarael09 for some reason, i feel MM hates ling so much
@melgibsonero2 жыл бұрын
1,2 and 1+2 is perfect. Normal throws don't count obviously. Didn't Ling have 2, 1+2?
@phlixcarbon2 жыл бұрын
Lings 2 throw even on break can be option selected so tbh it’s not that good imo.
@mushi97662 жыл бұрын
@@phlixcarbon Her 2 throw? No. Wrong. you probably talking about a differnt throw
@sheeneemee2 жыл бұрын
Why is akuma not in C? He doesn't even have a command throw lmao
@mzmc30202 жыл бұрын
Nina actually deserves to be a little higher
@crunkplugg2 жыл бұрын
yessss to more delicious tier lists. also julia technically has one of each break (b+2+4 is 2 break), because of course she does, and anna/nina df df+1 is just another 1+2 break
@MasterApprentist2 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything except Dragunov would be in A+tier as has parry throws, plus Q4 chain throw and 3 way tackle, also his Oki of throws is epic with df2 on get up... Paul's chain tackle is pretty ridiculous damage also.
@josemota91882 жыл бұрын
He is in A+
@tre-moon-dous61222 жыл бұрын
@@josemota9188 the guy probably watched the video halfway and rushed to the comments
@Taycatte2 жыл бұрын
"I'll put everyone with a complete throw game into A" puts julia, with a complete throw game, mad axes, throws that hit crouching, a throw from crouch, and a throw that wall breaks, into B+ wut
@ytuser01102 жыл бұрын
100% agree, I learnt how to break marduk tackle (and do it online) after one tutorial. But im still crying worse than you when I meet breakdancer king.
@SlashpLOder2 жыл бұрын
so ridiculous that his tackle break depends on the range, 1+2 on close range and 2 break for distant range, that alone makes marduk one of the kings of throws
@GutoSantana2 жыл бұрын
Please, what is the tutorial you meant about break Marduk tackles ?
@ytuser01102 жыл бұрын
@@GutoSantana it is Massive zug's countering tackles video
@ytuser01102 жыл бұрын
@@GutoSantana show him some love
@andrei2010862 жыл бұрын
Lei has 1 and 1+2 breaks on command throws. He has healing throw with special animation with 2 "attempts" from DRN, throw with high evasion from DGN with 1 break, command throw with good oki, throw with floor break and also self damaging throw:) Lei definitely must be higher.
@Demon_Aura2 жыл бұрын
I heard that Hwoarang from Backturned have unseeable throws Edit: It is, you have to guess between a 2 and a 1+2 throw, he should be in tier A+ now
@xClown552 жыл бұрын
i'd rather fight 20 throwspammers playing king than a single marduk throw spammer, the damage output on and marduk throw is outrageous
@xLimitlesso2 жыл бұрын
Most online Kings are also incapable of breaking throws, too. So you just throw them a few times and then all of a sudden mids are free because they can't stop ducking
@xClown552 жыл бұрын
@@xLimitlesso yeah, literally nothing i can do against marduks BS. his 50/50 AFTER a combo is what's really annoying. You lose like 40% of your health and are immediately in another mixup that gives 40% dmg, it's bs
@arielclarencetan48832 жыл бұрын
@@xClown55 nope it is not a fifty-fifty actually. You are talking about the 1 air throw in mid combo right. Just so you know it is actually a 33,33,33. And if you know how to punish it which i bet you don't you can actually launch marduk if you know what he is about to do.
@xClown552 жыл бұрын
@@arielclarencetan4883 I mean not like I can practice for it lmao I don't own the dlc and not gonna buy it just to practice
@arielclarencetan48832 жыл бұрын
@@xClown55 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYDVaX2nrpxln7c here let me help you a bit. This give you the option to punish every option he had.
@mikeg44902 жыл бұрын
I hope T8 adds a character with a throw game.
@HoDoBoDo2 жыл бұрын
My favourite throw in the game is Bryan's chains of misery.
@ntodek2 жыл бұрын
One of the coolest looking ones!
@grandpulse79702 жыл бұрын
I assume that's the one that punches them in the gut and slams them on the reverse side?
@reafer22 жыл бұрын
@@grandpulse7970 nah thats fisherman slam, chains of misery it a right hand gut punch and uppercut followed by a left hook. Its pretty rad
@kennethdrummer082 жыл бұрын
Haahaahahaahha
@Jim-zw7ul2 жыл бұрын
mine has to be broken toy by heihachi
@otk51502 жыл бұрын
TMM, Kuni has a 1, 2, and 1+2 throw from back turn...not sure if you would count that as perfect throw break game. Basically any character that can go into back turn manually has a 50/50 throw break game The animation for Kuni's back turn throws are all the same...which is the mixup, the worst thing about her throw game is how weak her oki is after said throws imo
@njrjd10202 жыл бұрын
I would like to see another tier list with the coolest throws by the animation of characters,from Main Man if thats a good idea✅
@dariannisch75112 жыл бұрын
It actually is
@UltimateBallaPOM2 жыл бұрын
AMK with the Shining Black and Running Powerbomb should be S+ , outside of the general wrestling moves
@njrjd10202 жыл бұрын
@@UltimateBallaPOM no how good it is this throws,how cool it looks by the animation
@UltimateBallaPOM2 жыл бұрын
@@njrjd1020 a running one-handed Powerbomb or straight up kicking someone in the face isn't cool? I got what you meant, dude.
@njrjd10202 жыл бұрын
@@UltimateBallaPOM Yeah dude i got you but we have way more coolest throws from other characters
@dioune322 жыл бұрын
Note: Kuni has a backturn throw 50/50 with identical animations. Rarely used because her backturn stance already has many good options.
@dupla03922 жыл бұрын
AK is probably better on paper, but in a normal match even against Arslan, I would rather have Marduk. His oki on throws are ridiculous, he has the "50/50s", but only at the ground and after an air throw. And Tackle is a 2f break if it is the spear version, noone will break that a 100%.
@RJALEXANDER7772 жыл бұрын
I was surprised that Mainman placed A. King higher on the list than Marduk (especially considering that he makes a ton of noise about how busted/easy mode Marduk is). Maybe it's just another matter of the skill gap? At the competitive level it's "easy" to break throws, so it's only those true 50/50's that are genuinely intimidating. It's a different perspective from us mere mortals who struggle to break throws consistently, so obviously the character with a higher damage output is going to be the bigger threat. But like you said, it's not like Marduk doesn't have genuine 50/50's and a tackle that even pros struggle with.
@nightman9222 жыл бұрын
spear version?
@arielclarencetan48832 жыл бұрын
@@nightman922 yeah marduk tackle will do spear animation if done from longer range and yes it is a 2f break window.
@davidparry53102 жыл бұрын
@@nightman922 The version he performs from range.
@jeanb.39672 жыл бұрын
Gigas should be higher up the list. His air throw deals so much damage and could be easily executed since he got a lot of launching moves. He also has a throw the could wall splat with the overkill which can combo into huge damage. It is also pretty fast.
@mrshifty25032 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the parry their list
@SpecialJoint53532 жыл бұрын
I agree with this list. Anyone who has played king or armor king knows how good the giant swing is. Best throw in the game without a question.
@itachi11652 жыл бұрын
Do explain?
@causaIity2 жыл бұрын
@@itachi1165 10 frame grab that you can buffer from moves. Looks like a 1+2 break with the animation with AK's hands, not only the hand animation but even the animation after (him hugging you) looks like a shining wizard break and deals a shit ton of dmg if you don't techroll (60+) and even if you do techroll it still deals 45 dmg (you also can't techroll if king is behind a wall, and at the wall the Oki is insane)
@SpecialJoint53532 жыл бұрын
@@itachi1165 Looks like someone explained it already but it also has very good range for a throw and some amount of tracking.
@itachi11652 жыл бұрын
@@SpecialJoint5353 i prefer the 4 winged lock by king
@thiagorodrigues52112 жыл бұрын
According to Lil Majin. AK's crouch dash throws are better than King's since king has a delay before the grab and people can fuzzy guard it
@iampinky.20382 жыл бұрын
Steves 2 break is qcb2 not the flicker throws. Flicker and Pab throws are 1+2
@iampinky.20382 жыл бұрын
also his side switch throw, which you already said is very hard to break, if you push people forward into the wall you get guaranteed 1,1,2 if you throw them sideways or backwards against a wall you get guaranteed b1,2 into wallender or even RA with rage. So yeah I think he should be 1 tier up
@SlashpLOder2 жыл бұрын
@@iampinky.2038 his 2-break is qcb+2+4 though
@iampinky.20382 жыл бұрын
@@SlashpLOder yep it is. I wrote it down wrong
@LordRaptor2 жыл бұрын
Paul's throw game is pretty underrated, I think it's very decent, good damage, good variety, good at the wall or against it.
@AISciFiStories2 жыл бұрын
Surprised Nina wasn’t up there with Dragunov. Dragunov DEFINITELY is up there in the throw game. Not to mention his snake edge fake into grab if you duck, perfect for oki, they stand up and think they’re about to keep swept, then ooof grabbed. I can’t tell how how many times a day I catch people, regardless of rank or matchup knowledge with this trap. And if they stand drags fu3+4 unbreakable leg grab does stupid damage. And almost all his grabs if you try and get up 3, it’s a guaranteed launcher, and if I df2 and you stay down, THEN you get up 3 and I block it, you’re getting launched and carried wall to wall for massive damage. And the amount of attacks that can lead to the tackle. He can be Marduk if he wanted but less obvious. Not to mention drags parry game! He has a special low parry grab that’s very satisfying to do, but the regular low parry is more rewarding in damage. But not as satisfying. And any Miguel or armor king player that loves df1 spamming you’re getting parried, then if you stand up too fast getting launched. Drags grab game is INSANE!!! Almost would put him next to Marduk in my opinion. Definitely S. Not to mention drags tackle has 1,2, and. 1+2 break options.
@Stockfish15112 жыл бұрын
Im yoshi main, but it should be b plus because he has unblockable throw from dragon fly stance and its very fast one. It has good damage and can be mixed with other moves from the stance. It can also floor break, force a side switch. Its really decent throw, but its the only decent throw.
@Kenlac922 жыл бұрын
Another yoshi main here, I dont think B is fair. Thats actually not a throw but an unblockable attack, that requires conditioning the opponent to stand there during your dgf set up. It is a nice option in dgf that gives a side switch, meaning it is invaluable at the wall, but its locked behind a stance that in itself requires proper conditioning to enter safely. For example if people see you do tsunami kicks, they are likely to jab check you or df1 until you ch their df1 with flash, parry their jab with kin, or spin out. You need to learn first how they respond, and then if they start respecting that sequence, go nto dgf for the attack throw. So, just like all of yoshis other tools, it is potentially very strong but serves a unique and specialized purpose. If he didnt need to stance dance or heavily condition the opponent, just to use half of his tools, he would be OP.
@christoffelsymbol16315 ай бұрын
leroy's 1+3 default throw has oki and floor breaks and u/f+1+2 has the coolest animation in the game !
@SinSorrowEU2 жыл бұрын
I fell in love to T3 for the throws and sidestepping. Need more throws, animations are great =) Anna should be higher in tier as I still remember seeing her kick to hip region for first time and felt it in my groin aswell. 🥺
@Enty942 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it's the same button to break both kumas throws. Shouldn't be that high.
@HassanGamingHD2 жыл бұрын
Akuma has the unblockable throw
@MartinKusimo2 жыл бұрын
Do you know what I would like to see? A video listing the fastest moves, who they belong to and what they look like.
@EggscellentTree2 жыл бұрын
S-tier: 6 frame yoshi flash A-tier: every other character jab and ganry's headbut.
@krisvalderrama90432 жыл бұрын
@@EggscellentTree ling has 9f b+1, i think
@yaniser31952 жыл бұрын
Kuni ff4 2 9 frame
@konnkon10252 жыл бұрын
Anna has two 1+2 command throws and chain throws her having a 1 break command throw is false I wished... but yeah her df df1 throw is a 1+2 break
@thedillmeister97532 жыл бұрын
I think the start of her chain throw is a 1 break. I can check though. The other throws are 1+2 breaks like you said
@konnkon10252 жыл бұрын
The starter of her chain throw is a 2 break
@thedillmeister97532 жыл бұрын
@@konnkon1025 Ahh I see what your saying. Still decent that it's a different break from 1+2
@surjitsoram22602 жыл бұрын
Hworang shouldn't have his throw game. Its mentally exhausting enough dealing with his pressure.
@rivendzi2 жыл бұрын
Da truth.
@bruceleeds79882 жыл бұрын
Glad someone is bringing this up, after Dragunov Tekken throws have been very lazy
@rocklee14852 жыл бұрын
you forgot that eddy can throw you when crouching
@CaptainVulcan2 жыл бұрын
31:29 - That's a REALLY good question...
@dannybangz2 жыл бұрын
Eishhhhhhh more great content from maingodswe
@killy-rayy79272 жыл бұрын
Eddy has a crouch throw and a command throw and a unbreakable in handstand plus 2 normal throws
@stefanknezevic70482 жыл бұрын
You CAN tell the difference between a shining wizard and a giant swing. People that say otherwise turn it into a needless guessing game. Yes, the initial hand extension for these throws shows both hands going forward. However, after that you have just enough time to see if King is climbing on top of you or trying to swing you around. It's definitely doable, just more difficult due to how fast both throws are and their initial hand animation. You can use this logic of recognising the throw animation to break all throws in Tekken 7, instead of relying on the extension of the hands (which may fool you, like with King & Armor King). Proof: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6qmi42FrrWAnpo
@davidparry53102 жыл бұрын
Nah, I call bullshit on the idea unless you can produce video footage of tournament play showing lots of Shining Wizards and Giant Swings being consistently broken despite both being used. Hell, I'm sceptical of the idea that you can distinguish between Giant Swing and, say, Muscle Buster, at least in a clutch situation.
@LeNguyen-cf5nw2 жыл бұрын
Yoshi should be S-tier. He has an unbreakable throw :D
@mrbaaman2 жыл бұрын
You didn't even watch the video
@leonlegend2 жыл бұрын
Throws are an alien concept to the ultra hard difficulty.
@DeliLizard2 жыл бұрын
Bears should be in C+ maximum. They only have 1+2 throws except for one that's practically useless. Headbutt doesn't really give you anything if the opponent tech rolls except for maybe another grab attempt. Rock'n Roll Circus is an okay throw, it's fast, deals good damage, and if your back is to a wall it'll either give you a great advantage or ruin the entire round for you. It's biggest problem is it's range, there is no range on the throw. Since it's a hcbf input, it can be pretty tough to just throw it out like a regular throw, and since miss inputting the throw means death, you can really only buffer it most of the time. The problem with this though is that you can't really buffer it on your own turn unless you're REALLY plus since anything from a single backdash, to literally walking into the throw (but only with certain characters) will cause it to whiff. And even if the throw connects, once again, every good throw the bears have are 1+2 breaks, you don't need to worry about throws at all.
@President_Shin2 жыл бұрын
“Marduk has his tackle” 🤨 oh.. just a tackle?? Marduk S plus.
@Section8dc2 жыл бұрын
Heihachis Broken Toy is the coolest in the game 💯
@bluemonk94802 жыл бұрын
Julia should be A+ imo, complete throw game, weird oki situations from them and mad axes being bufferable / coming out earlier than most throws.
@carloshernandez31772 жыл бұрын
Throw breaking is my 2nd stat in my top 3, at S rank. the only character i legt have a problem with is king. His shining wizard and giant swing are so fast and usually im in negative frames so im worried about a launch or backdashing and i input a break to late
@Akklipz2 жыл бұрын
Any tips to break throws?
@carloshernandez31772 жыл бұрын
@@Akklipz I guess I've been playing forever and I just got used to seeing which hand comes out, right hand then I press 2 as I see the attack coming. Practice mode make a character character a full throw game repeat throws of every break and try to get them at least 70% right. What rank are you?
@Akklipz2 жыл бұрын
@@carloshernandez3177 just hit purple, but honestly throws i react too slow. But thanks for the advice
@carloshernandez31772 жыл бұрын
@@Akklipz I play series X do you? We could spar and shit
@MasterApprentist2 жыл бұрын
While running wizard is annoying as fuck
@zex692 жыл бұрын
This is a unique perspective on the game ... good job TMM
@WeeabooDojo2 жыл бұрын
This might be irrelevant but geese gets raging storm off of one hit tackle. So near wall he can get one of the highest damage combos off of tackle. Also he can use two bar after his two throw for a similar effect near wall. Meaning wall break arenas buff geeses tackle as well.
@UltimateBallaPOM2 жыл бұрын
Hwoarang and Nina should join J7 in A+
@Shibu_PL2 жыл бұрын
Best players in the world actually can tell the difference between GS and 1+2 throw animations because there is a slight difference in those animations... Now let's try to compare which character has more annoying throw game for a typical online player - King/AK with their limited throw range or Marduk with his tackle and launching throws everywhere? I would say Marduk wins in every category whether we talk about beginner, intermediate, high or pro level simply because of his tackle.
@davidparry53102 жыл бұрын
'Best players in the world actually can tell the difference between GS and 1+2 throw animations because there is a slight difference in those animations...' Can they consistently distinguish them in a clutch situation, though? I'm sceptical.
@tyranmcgrath68712 жыл бұрын
I am bias because I play Lei but he has throws from 3 different stances that you didn't consider.
@malachihill86772 жыл бұрын
You should do a tier list on character s mobility and evasiveness
@dragonslayercorx2 жыл бұрын
It really sucks that new chars don't get more throws. Throws are literally so cool, I want to see more sick animations 😭
@HELLRAISER02 Жыл бұрын
Way too late but it also sucks how the new DLC chars reuse their default throws for their side throws, and all modern chars have the same dmg on each respective throw, which makes little sense cuz getting impaled by spear would do 60 dmg i think, oh well
@therealmccoy20042 жыл бұрын
Only thing jack needs is a air bound throw.. I hope the developers add that..
@BugLondon2 жыл бұрын
Aren't you the one who said Armor king's throw game is clearly and objectively worse than King's because he gets no oki on his throws? Like his throw oki is outright worse than the average character. And some of his chain throws are punishable on break.
@gudfighting71572 жыл бұрын
Lei can cancel his throw animation aswell which is good also yoshi has a 2 brake a unbreakable grab from helicopter stance plus his 1+2 the pressure on Miguel is really good imo Bob has the launcher throw lars has a air grab which can get really good damage at the wall as u can follow up after a combo
@naiiin69492 жыл бұрын
Yoshi's qcf2 is actually a 1+2 break for some reason
@theoneandonly40792 жыл бұрын
Lars's shining wizard wall splats if they're in the air
@qweqweqwadcsc Жыл бұрын
It's a throw used for combos, and the damage is trivial compared to what it used to be in TTT2
@jugcage76342 жыл бұрын
Mad respect for UT soundtrack 👌
@soccer4everboy172 жыл бұрын
Julia should definitely be higher
@daxterlallo39892 жыл бұрын
King vs Marduk doesnt really go well together you know. Its hype but when watching them well its a whole different story
@Ninjabob5682 жыл бұрын
You can actually buffer the qcb and then side step and hit f2 and mad axes will still come out
@yomomma13162 жыл бұрын
If you watch J Kings video on kings ground throws, he can almost do 100% damage off of ground throws with rage. Face down at the legs, rage drive, sidestep, face down legs again, face down side
@aceee71822 жыл бұрын
imo eddy should be higher he, had two 1+2 break throws, a crouching throw and an unbreakable throw on handstand even though it’s pretty bad
@Sonic-oe1in2 жыл бұрын
Next tier list. Best to worst default outfits rated on how cool they look and up to fashion
@12esinlung2 жыл бұрын
Lili has floor break with 1 and an unbreakable wall splat impact grab.
@atlascallisto14612 жыл бұрын
Was also going to say this! That being said, the wall splat grab doesn't do much damage, better to just use something else at the wall instead.
@12esinlung2 жыл бұрын
@@atlascallisto1461 true. It does have good spacing for oki. I like to backturn when I land and flip back in.
@big8evil62 жыл бұрын
If you count the chains throws nina will be better than armor king
@avnishgoyal50752 жыл бұрын
AK has12 frame startup crouch dash throw 50/50 faster then even king's chain grab. So go figure.
@ealberty6102 жыл бұрын
I was curious where you were going to put Nina on this list. Placing her towards the bottom end of the top 10 grapplers is about where I'd put her too.
@chuai_man2 жыл бұрын
It always bothers me that Asuka, the AIKIDO practitioner, doesn't have a complete throw game. It's so annoying.
@xxCROMIZOIDxx2 жыл бұрын
As if Asuka needs more stuff to make a her cheap. Hwoarang being this type of offender is enough.
@jR0xas2 жыл бұрын
They should just make it so you can only break generic throws with 1 or 2 again. It's pretty unfair how it is now.
@hamzaahmad1292 жыл бұрын
Who fucking cares. She is already strong enough, she doesn't anything additional to make her unbalanced
@mistashadow2 жыл бұрын
I don't know about actually tiering them, but for some reason the most satisfying throw to me is Roll and Choke.
@carloshernandez31772 жыл бұрын
??? death cradle??
@arthurmallmann57682 жыл бұрын
Gabryu just has 1+2 throws, he has no throw mixup. His mixups are all from normal moves, and they are ch only and mids, so nothing even similar to unbreakable throws. They are ch mids that could be launchers or have guaranteed minicombos (in case of d1+2) but have a guessing game with them. and Anna has 1+2 and 2, but she can only use her 2 throw during crouch dash, so that is no need for good throw reaction during crouch dash 2 break and in the neutral 1+2 or normal throws like most characters
@ismaelmunoz3362 жыл бұрын
I think lars should be in b tier... he has a shining wizard with no execution in f3, 2+3 where you can buffer the 3. apart from a complete throw game, also his 1+3 leads into oki or breaks the floor when possible into combo.
@itachi11652 жыл бұрын
Devil jins throw obliteration is nice af
@Brass_Heathen2 жыл бұрын
I'm calling it right now... Best haircut tier list 👌 it's coming.
@al-teronnrobinson78602 жыл бұрын
Nina should be A+ or S tier and Asuka A OR b+ Nina's two of her throws is on the same level as King's Big swing She should be higher than
@BGuhChannel272 жыл бұрын
Nina back sway 1+4 is unbreakable lol
@browniebytes_03112 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does anyone else think that Jack should have an air throw? Just sayin….
@jimdino772 жыл бұрын
I definitely can visualize some Potemkin shenanigans with Jack
@browniebytes_03112 жыл бұрын
@@jimdino77 it’s just crazy that he doesn’t. Like armor king and king both have a running power bomb but jack a walking robot doesn’t hmmmmm lol
@therealmccoy20042 жыл бұрын
I've been saying this since tekken 3!! Based off his character design he technically should have a grounded throw too. But that be too much probably. But in this game wat is too much.. #harada #michaelmurry
@browniebytes_03112 жыл бұрын
@@therealmccoy2004 #facts
@christoffelsymbol163111 ай бұрын
Still waiting for the parry tierlist with Geese at the top
@hibye-ht1fr2 жыл бұрын
Yoshimitsu has an unbreakable throw from dragonfly stance
@julianrx72 жыл бұрын
Yeah its a high tho. A bit negans wallsplat throw. But yoshi has a throw which lets him heal himself or heal the opponent. It does the exact opposite on break and i think it has no visual indicator which one yoshi does so its a 50/50
@djmj10002 жыл бұрын
@@julianrx7 The most funniest 50:50 if you know your opponent will escape it. It will mess his mind if he escapes and still gets hurt cause you wanted to hurt yourself in the beginning.
@hibye-ht1fr2 жыл бұрын
@@julianrx7 except that qcb,f2 (his health giving throw) is unbreakable. So that means its not really a mix up, it only exists to flex on people.
@danielshuy2 жыл бұрын
That’s a shame, if only they made it steal life on break, it would really match Yoshi’s mindgames/mixup theme
@julianrx72 жыл бұрын
@@hibye-ht1fr bro i didnt know that lmao. I just assumed that its a mixup tool but i quess its just useless
@FerventFourEyes2 жыл бұрын
There is a distinct difference in animation between GS and 1+2 throws. Those who know, know
@ulurius2 жыл бұрын
There isn't a difference between GS and some 1+2 command grabs. But the throw tech window is long enough that you can see king sliding down his hands.
@FerventFourEyes2 жыл бұрын
@@ulurius GS has a FAR more aggressive animation than most 1+2s. Its also faster at i10 as opposed to i12. Add these two factors together and you can begin to distinguish the two. Just lab GS and various 1+2s and you'll eventually see as well with eye training. Now, everyone who reads this will know lol. TMM is wrong on this take.
@ulurius2 жыл бұрын
@@FerventFourEyes Not really, it depends on the 1+2. Especially when it comes to shining wizard that does have the special 1+2 animation. You also can't distinguish visually between 12 or 10 frames. The way to see between GS or shining wizard is by listening to the roar from the shining wizard as well as to see the king hands sliding for the GS. It is not consistent to do so and even amongst pro players it is rare to react
@mathwizard2962 жыл бұрын
So many vid uploads yay
@krismer77422 жыл бұрын
steve has 3 1+2s, a 1, and a 2, anda push
@mibbzx14932 жыл бұрын
Yoshi’s soul possession throw is an unbreakable as well
@EternalSilverDragon2 жыл бұрын
It has a break. But instead of escaping from the grab, Yoshi will take damage and his opponent will get healed.
@mibbzx14932 жыл бұрын
@@EternalSilverDragon nah thats when you input it wrong, they’re 2 separate grabs. Soul siphon & soul possession
@EternalSilverDragon2 жыл бұрын
@@mibbzx1493 Ah, my bad, I mixed those two up. But the unbreakable one hurts Yoshi so doesn't really have any use.
@mibbzx14932 жыл бұрын
@@EternalSilverDragon yea i discovered it myself awhile back but i use it alot since not alot of ppl know about it. But yoshi is a character that needs some buffs, he’s not able to really compete at high level because all of the other characters have so much better options and damage/wall carry and range than he does with less of the risk.
@TheShimmy122 жыл бұрын
You should have put me in s+ because I throw all my games
@chriss70402 жыл бұрын
Someone plz correct me if I’m wrong but I always felt like you can tell which chain throw the Kings use out of their wave dashes by the way the camera angles adjust themselves when they go for the 1+4 or the 2+3 grabs
@ArmoredLeo726882 жыл бұрын
Kuni needs to be higher. She has a 1, a 2, and a 1+2 break.
@FiddlinWithYourCerebellum2 жыл бұрын
Main goatee man
@mushi97662 жыл бұрын
MAIN MAIN PLEASE NOTE HOW TO PRONOUNCE THE "TH" Sound using "Ffff" sound is not right. Dont be lazy.
@straightlead82 жыл бұрын
Without looking it has to be Katarina at the bottom
@FFFre4k2 жыл бұрын
I would say AKs position compared to Marduks isn't that cut and dry. The damage and oki Marduk gets from throws is insane and add tackle and the best ground throws into the mix and I think he is a better grappler than AK. AK might have better singular throws but as a whole Marduk takes it.
@zangana30522 жыл бұрын
Why Master Raven is so low? 💀 I main her, and her throws are pure cancer at wall. You see both 1/2 or 1+2 breaks with the same animation from her BT, and she can easily get into BT, especially with her new 1,1,4 Gclef ender. I main Maven, Xiaoyu and Ganryu. Master Raven has the strongest, since Ganryu doesn't have a 1+2 throw, even your command throws have a 50/50 chance to break all the time. Xiaoyu's better than Ganryu's too.
@rhanetreece23012 жыл бұрын
And if I remember correctly she gets some good oki on her 1+3, I believe. If they just stand up (and sometimes just roll) you can get forward 2,3.
@zangana30522 жыл бұрын
@@rhanetreece2301 the okis are meh, but df1+4 and back throw both floor break with tons of damage as a combo starter. Her 1+2 throw can be buffered too (hcb), and used during a dash in (ff1+2).
@hamadalmatar832 жыл бұрын
Leroy has good setup after 1+3
@c.s.balaji86912 жыл бұрын
Decent tier list 👍
@jdrm37102 жыл бұрын
IDK how to value side switching throws (even when broken) with mostly P1 side having an advantage due to being accustomed to it.
@MasterApprentist2 жыл бұрын
Lol wrote this as watching, now main man has agreed with me 😂
@chukslarry0072 жыл бұрын
Yoshi has a 2 break. Qcf 2. He drains ur health bar n add to his. U need to input 2 to break the throw n d reverse becomes d case. Yoshi also has an unblockable throw that does above 40 damage n floor breaks. Yoshi's rainbow drop does 50 damage n floor breaks. Yoshi definitely should be higher. At least B tier
@naiiin69492 жыл бұрын
That looks like a 2 break, but it actually is a 1+2 break
@chukslarry0072 жыл бұрын
@@naiiin6949 oh yea just checked its 1+2. But that shows how deceptive it is cos he literally stretches his right hand. So my point still stands
@bluelion73422 жыл бұрын
I would say julia has the best throw in the game with mad axes, it can be buffed for a very long time and it's 10f and leads to amazing oki