Tekken 7 - Korean Back Dash Quick Guide

[@Mugen123456789]

Slowly do this input for a long time and let your speed naturally increase. People often skip this and never learn it properly

[@Hiiiro]

Yes, 100% this! Rushing when you’re not used to the correct input/rhythm can lead to bad habits.

[@strayzzfaxz6740]

Yeah I've just found out today that I've been doing it wrong for 2 years

[@joshuatokosi]

Thanks guys, I will now become good

[@ImSwayZoh]

ive been trying to learn this for ages, watched all kinds of videos. And the one advice that ive never heard yet was your "Keep the crouches short, backdashes long" was the fucking game changing answer! Thank you so much! Subbed!

[@Hiiiro]

Glad it helped man! Pretty much the crouches are just there to cancel the backdash (plus it’s pretty dangerous to stay crouched). Good luck in your matches!

[@EthelonYT]

These kinds of videos are where youtube shorts really shines

[@channeldown5618]

"I'am 100% korean backdashing out of any explosion, dude"

[@FidzDanto]

This is so simple and short yet so informative, thank you so much I literally just learned how to K-Backdash in under an hour 👍

[@Hiiiro]

Hey that’s awesome!

[@awaisakram8573]

🧢

[@FidzDanto]

@@awaisakram8573 5/25/2023

[@Thelegend_2121]

A wholesome paul using Korean back dash water the grass and teaching us at the same time.

[@Hiiiro]

Have to take care of the earth

[@feqol]

I just noticed that wtf😂

[@FuzeRG]

Ah the sound is so nice

[@himekomurata72]

Some characters will sway back with this technique so it doesn't always work with everyone but you can backdash too by simply wavedashing backwards 😂

[@Hiiiro]

That happens if you do the b, qcb inputs, for like Paul, Nina, etc other backsway chars. It won't happen with these inputs. Backsway = d, d/b, b KBD = (b, N,) b, d/b, b, N (repeat)

[@tzitzitzitzi1584]

Work on your inputs, they have to be clean. All characters can do it but some will force you to have clean inputs

[@johnbertfernandez4717]

Short but very helful thanks

[@Hiiiro]

What makes it a backdash cancel is the d/b interrupting the dash. Then when you release down to go into back, a neutral, then another back, it loops into another backdash. For arcade stick handcams (I don't have one anymore and am saving for one), I suggest you look up the youtube guides from Qudans, JDCR, Hibal, or even TheMainManSWE and take your pick of style depending on what you're comfy with. (Pad users, I never used a pad so I dunno, sorry!)

[@IAMOP]

Great video, short and informative

[@TheMadKing724]

Finally got this down on Xbox controller very recently after struggling with it for a few weeks. It really is important to just look at the command history and make sure you're getting the input exactly right and then it's just repeating it over and over until you can do it reliably and more quickly.

[@Hiiiro]

Gj dude

[@MrShinTensei]

Jumping back into Bryan and the way I'm normally doing it gets me a back sway.

[@Hiiiro]

Yeah. That’s caused by doing qcb inputs (quarter circle back). Happens on any backsway character like Nina, Paul, Bryan.

[@yadzthegreat8674]

Glad to see you in KZbin Shorts lol

[@Hiiiro]

Hehe thanks dude

[@GoSu2KL]

We need more of videos like this from tekken

[@ikarly2898]

it's like playing an instrument

[@陈呵呵-n6i]

he actually follow the music rythm😂

[@Hiiiro]

😅 maybe this happens when you live in the practice mode haha

[@Cynnik911]

This is literally the first thing you need to learn when playing this game... No other game requires such a difficult command just to move around lol

[@shingai5694]

It's only required if you actually want to become good. There are lots of players who don't kbdc and enjoy tekken just fine.

[@sourcesauce]

this is literally the biggest piece of misinformation surrounding tekken

[@BrobotDj]

Not true at all

[@Takashumbo]

The most fake news of fgc games

[@mrlazy2343]

​@@shingai5694they r casuals

[@-kai7667]

so simple so helpful

[@Hiiiro]

Thank you!

[@defrg3g293]

Earned my sub and thumbs up

[@Hiiiro]

You might wanna unsub! I don't play Tekken anymore but I do keep this up since it still helps people.

[@hokageevan3131]

Yo bro Godbless for this

[@hephup1768]

Keyboard supremacy

[@pavise6333]

P1 side done, but P2 still need polishing

[@Azami0001]

I just do socd cleaning for this lol.

[@scozzbaggs9224]

What controller are u using. A keyboard?

[@Hiiiro]

when I made the vid, yes. I've done it on keyboard, joystick, and gamepad though. For me, gamepad is a bit rough since I rarely use it. Joystick to the right side is a pain.

[@stargazer016]

I can understand the keyboard input

[@GVSolgryn]

그냥 백대시 인줄 알았는데 코리안 백대시였네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@Hiiiro]

ㅋㅋ

[@thepear6684]

Interesting👍

[@anima-xii]

Question: Been playing tekken since t3, and I used to use controller. My kbd was sloppy but not terrible then. Moved to fight stick (square gate) and having a hard time mastering the kbd. Seems the initial input is: b~b, d/b, b, N Then: d/b, b, N -> d/b, b, N (repeat) If that is correct, my question is do I just roll it to the back input after the d/b? Also how can I make my d/b input more consistent after the neutral. I’m going slow and watched many tutorials and not getting sways when play Nina. Just doesn’t seem to input properly sometimes or maybe I need to practice the d/b, b motion more? Any tips?

[@Hiiiro]

Heyo. It’s (b), b, d/b, N, repeat. You’re right in that you need to practice the roll from d/b to b. Try that mega slow, then release b into another b for backdash.

[@anima-xii]

@@Hiiiro oooh damn I’m thinking it was different input but now I see. Gonna try that. Thanks!

[@sO_RoNerY]

Yeah so, uh, if you feel you have to do this, go ahead. Me I'll just move my way. I don't see much difference between just back dashing and "Korean" back dashing.

[@Hiiiro]

By “just back dashing” do you mean qcb, b, or just 2 back inputs repeatedly? Either way, you can definitely get by with normal back dashes depending on what’s going on. Cancelling them a bit early just gives you some more space a bit quicker for when you want it.

[@sO_RoNerY]

@@Hiiiro nah i just mean back dashing. After I said this I’ve been practicing. But when I’m fighting I generally just back dash instead of canceling the back dash. I use keyboard now so this helped some. I generally use it for QCB and QCF after back dashing.

[@MohsinPakFGC]

You deserve a Sub for this 😉😉😉

[@dabepis5907]

I just do the wavedash input 💀

[@Hiiiro]

I used to too, but it’s quicker / cleaner if not. Also like, what if you wanna play Bryan in the future? 🥲

[@ZiegenMeisterV1]

@@Hiiiro play him on P2 😅 On stick his inputs and the correct backdash feels more natural

[@edgelord121]

Lol I just did bb,d,bb,d,bb (looks janky but still faster than normal backdashing) after giving up on kbd.

[@Hiiiro]

Hey dude, don’t give up! Just go super slow at first. Obnoxiously slow. b, b, d/b (hoooold) repeat. You can absolutely get it. As you speed up, just shorten the crouch.

[@wingbeacon8760]

Lord Slug really tried to do the korean backdash 14:52 , lmao wrong game buddy

[@doctordiscotech]

I want to practice this on my qanba drone fightstick. It is a square gate so it has four corners do you think that will put me at a disadvantage in learning this technique?

[@mindspacegaming]

You should switch to a korean lever brother, there’s an emphasis on the return to neutral and your inputs will come out wayyyy cleaner

[@s_u_r_v_i_v_o_r]

Dont need it if you have the Virtual Reality Full-Body Chamber.

[@SoloPlayerP1]

Question The one that is too fast it doesn't count as fuzzy guard?

[@xyzen9673]

Or just do what i do... Wait for them to run up and just hit them, they never expect a raijin to NOT do a kbd and just get flummoxed

[@Hiiiro]

pro. outplayed with mindgames.

[@kclone5]

With anyone but Bryan or Paul, it's ez

[@Hiiiro]

And Nina. But that's probably because you're using a wavedash input in the reverse direction (b, qcb) instead of the correct (b), b, d/b, b, N > repeat

[@rajatji]

I'm stii having issues can you help me I'm trying my best however the backdash is being very difficult in t8 with jin

[@mindspacegaming]

Would you say this is more natural than arcade stick? I feel like when I switched to Korean lever my whole movement and execution especially kbd on p1 got exceptionally cleaner. This might just be the hardest thing to learn properly when getting started in tekken

[@Hiiiro]

I’d say it’s up to your preference / what you can afford. Even pros like JDCR will say that keyboard/hitbox is straight up superior execution wise. I grew up with coin arcades so it’s just a nice interface for me. That said, my arcade stick is big and I usually store it a way in a box and play on KB or controller if I wanna chill. I used to have a couple sticks I converted to hit boxes and that was pretty nice. But arcade sticks or controllers make more sense with my brain than hitbox or KB as far as coordination and reactions, probly since that’s what I grew up playing Tekken on. For me, I think of them this way: Hitbox/keyboard = cleanest and easiest execution Arcade stick = best feel Controller = sit back and relax

[@Hiiiro]

Like JDCR said tho: “Practice your P2 side” lol

[@mindspacegaming]

@@Hiiiro Lmaoooo p2 side for me isn’t too bad since I have a higher tension grommet for my golden Fanta

[@Walou_]

so its pretty much just a wavedash away from the opponent? cool

[@Hiiiro]

Nope! While you CAN wavedash away from the opponent on most, when you hit that with backsway chars like Paul, Nina, etc, it'll just backsway. Best way to learn is (b) b > d/b > b > N > b, repeat.

[@qweqweqwadcsc]

Traditional KBD on P1 Wavedash Input on P2 I am a normal person I swear

[@Hiiiro]

It’ll work if you’re not on backsway chars yeah. Is a weird thing to input kbd

[@eenernanis2664]

that's fine and all but, why would I do that? why not just back dash normally?

[@Hiiiro]

Spacing. Cancelling the animation lets you backdash faster, done right leading to whiffs for easy punishes.

[@eenernanis2664]

@@Hiiiro being faster is.... eh, but I like the second, definitely a good thing to add to your arsenal, good shit mate, thanks

[@Hiiiro]

@@eenernanis2664 sure thing dude! It’s not for always, but is nice when you need it :)

[@feqol]

What is the b in bracket?

[@Hiiiro]

back

[@skwadboss]

This is harder than the way i do it

[@Hiiiro]

b, qcb (quarter circle back) inputs?

[@skwadboss]

@@Hiiiro Nope i just press db n B (↙️🔅⬅️) and that automatically gives u a backdash. So repeat it and u get very easy backdash cancels. Im gonna put a tutorial.

[@Hiiiro]

@@skwadboss unless the game's fundamentally changed, you're probably angled enough on your d/b, N that it's tagging a b on release (of the d/b) giving you that backdash. It should show in your command history. By angled I mean if you're using controller or arcade stick, doesn't apply as much to keyboard, but could still proc.

[@skwadboss]

@@Hiiiro i really dont think so. check ur video here u can see that u pressed db n b and it did a dash.. i think one of the backs isnt necessary. only on the first backdash so u dnt get clipped in crouch by an attacking opponent

[@Hiiiro]

@@skwadboss yeah. The input from the start is (b) b, d/b (the cancel), b, N. Then it just repeats, ignoring the first (b). So you start with a normal backdash, like you said so you don’t get clipped, then you just do d/b, b, N, b on repeat. The second b is usually a slide from the d/b and you may not be thinking it, but again, you’ll see it in your command history in practice mode.

[@IForgotMyNAAAAAme.]

I can't even back dash with out crouching

[@Hiiiro]

Just start slow my dude. :)

[@IForgotMyNAAAAAme.]

That's the problem

[@Hiiiro]

You're supposed to crouch in between backdashes anyway since it's used to animation cancel to get to the next backdash. After you do that, it's just about lessening the time of your crouch and keeping a steady rhythm.

[@kabloom6776]

I’m literally doing the exact same thing and it isn’t working.

[@Hiiiro]

Check your input history and start slow. b, db, b, N, b

[@steelixion]

Isn't is just like Mishima dash?

[@Hiiiro]

Nope. Wavedashes are just quarter circles + f. KBDs are (b), b, d/b, b, N, repeat. You can definitely do reverse wavedashes on most characters, but it won't work on anything with a backsway like Paul or Nina.

[@sameerahmad5571]

What’s the use of this?

[@Hiiiro]

Primarily spacing (to cause whiffs, etc), since in Tekken, walking backwards is too slow and just backdashing alone has a built in delay. It’s not too much of a problem in other games as dashes both back/forward are present, but in Tekken, this animation cancel (the crouch) is required to go backwards quickly.

[@sameerahmad5571]

@@Hiiiro thanks man, I’m learning kazuya…any tips?

[@Hiiiro]

@@sameerahmad5571 www.reddit.com/r/Tekken/comments/86tk2h/kazuya_top_15_moves_with_gifs/ Also hellsweep vortex. And learn the range of your whiff punishing moves. And 1, 1, 2 is hit confirmable. Safe on block (?) if you get blocked on the 1, 1.

[@ahmadzone3445]

Teken 7 on android??

[@Hiiiro]

The buttons are just an overlay I put together on OBS to show the timing.

[@peepeerogers]

Why is it Korean? Is it implying they invented this tactic?

[@HanLee-j1c]

keyboard...?

[@Hiiiro]

Keyboard, controller, arcade stick, midi controller.

[@rehandawood]

🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷

[@joshuabhoul2016]

Only koreans do this? What about others backdash?

[@Hiiiro]

Lol. Anyone can do it. It's just been termed that because I believe Korean players were the first to popularize it around Tekken Tag 1.

[@joshuabhoul2016]

@@Hiiiro i didnt know thanks