Tekken 8 Decisions That COULD Destroy The Game

[@KingJaeTV]

I love Tekken. Hope the direction goes in the right light ❤🙏🏾

[@ChristopherWaddelow]

Fr fr

[@bazzgaming27]

my favourite version of Jin is hands down T6. they defiantly ruined Jin in T8

[@jamiepickles9726]

I still want team battle back, or even better bring it back with an online feature to it

[@bazzgaming27]

@@jamiepickles9726 online team battle is a goated idea honestly

[@zangana3052]

TTT2: DLC: FREE, Harada promised: Legacy Chars as DLC will not be charged for. T7: Legacy chars that they actually charged for: Julia, Ganryu, Anna, Marduk, Lei, Kuni, AK. T8: Now customization items even trivial ones (Battle pass) will be charged for, that includes older Tekken common customization items. Insanely closed the gap between high level and lower level gameplay, literally any character can do x2 to x3 rage drives followed up by a heat smash. Example? Law's 1+2 in heat. Most hated character in T7 competitively was Akuma, because he could combo off of 10i. Now? Law and Hwo have a 10i CH launcher in heat, why?! King best CH fisher in the game? Yoshi hitting like a truck? Paul is a pure string cancel mix fest? Nina Carries wall to wall without any effort what so ever? Kazuya has a power mid that does 30 and +5 oB? Pluse a fast safe mid demon paw? Jin has crazy reach on jabs and df1? Bryan has a charged attack along with Yoshi, Clive, Paul, Feng... KUMA PRESURES IN HEAT like WHAT!? Whatever happened to weaknesses and difficulty? People who argue the game is not easier, aggressiveness have became baby mode, brainless and exaggerated. Defense has been punished severely.

[@danotoo96]

Some people really can't see what you're saying. They actually can't, it's crazy. It's right in front of our eyes. The game has some serious issues, and I doubt most will ever be addressed

[@jamessummers5936]

Y'all just need to go ahead and switch on over to VF atp.

[@danotoo96]

@@jamessummers5936 If there was a more stable version of tekken 7 where it doesnt crash 24/7 or if namco ever decides to add older tekkens on steam, I'd definitely play tekken 8 waaay less (and I already play a less frequently than before). VF6 teaser looks dope, but its not gonna release in a week or smth

[@jamessummers5936]

@@danotoo96 That new VF5 re-release is available now.

[@zangana3052]

@@jamessummers5936 I love the game and I hope that S2 they will shake things up. If I liked VF I would have moved. It is decent, imo Tekken is still more fun.

[@EtherealSoul861]

rank is full of clives players and people are blocking them because they don't want to deal with it

[@paradiseb5950]

As they should. But it’s just unbelievable people actually pay for that crap… giess namco wins- profit is no1 to them

[@Caladir]

Imagine being FF fan, coming into this game trying it out because of FF character, and getting pushed back. What the fuck is wrong with yall, you want this game to get killed.

[@iknowcharley5]

@@Caladirpeople only care about winning in ranked, they ruining it for casual players

[@championredd]

Yea bro he’s the new character ofc he’s gonna be played😂

[@givemeverything]

Clive is just like noctis it's funny how not that many ppl complained about Akuma t7 or geese and not as much as the dude from walking dead i don't mind Clive being in ff16 we got devil jin and yoshi so he fits

[@smallwonder866]

Why has the community let Namco get away with forcing you to pay for the same DLC over and over again. Why does the community get hype for characters that have already been in the game for years? Heihach has been in every Tekken game, so why get hype about him being in Tekken 8. They also let Harada get away with flat out lying to his customers repeatedly. All of this and I haven’t even gotten to the gameplay mechanics yet.

[@JayGaming-p2u]

Harada lying… most definitely…but forcing people to play the DLC’s nah I only pay for who interest me but I get your point, I’ve said this before why are making legacy characters DLC’s? But the casuals don’t care about that Harada tried to progress the game forward in T3&T4 but the backlash he got for killing off kazuya, leaving off eddy, beak, Anna etc so he continues to bring them back for fans 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@DmadPs]

I don't get this argument The character has new moves, plays different and it's a different model. Has new intros, needs to be worked. So it's not like they copy pasted the char. Now, people should definitely be complaining about battle pass and how you don't know which characters you getting when you buy the season pass

[@yxXRayXxy]

A character beeing in a previous game, doesn't mean they automatically have to be in the latest installment. There is no logical reasoning. Every new installment would be a Tekken Tag roster. That is literally no sustainability if you want to change all the characters with some new moves etc.

[@spybreak23]

Heat killed Tekken for me, I can't imagine how it could be balanced besides being nerfed to irrelevancy. I have more than 2000 hours in Tekken 7 and very high numbers for every other Tekken going back to 4. This series has been my FG series for my whole life basically, but I made it 124 hours in Tekken 8 and uninstalled it, I haven't had a desire to play it since. I don't even watch it anymore, and I used to watch every tournament. Tekken is a defensive, movement based game where true mixups are something only particular characters have, and their kits are meant to be balanced around it. Giving everyone an unga-bunga armored gap closer with built in mix ups as a universal mechanic is truly the dumbest, worst idea they could have had/stolen from SF6 and there's not much they can do to fix it that wouldn't require them to admit it was a mistake, which they won't do.

[@Zenkai.boost.Kekkei.Genkai]

ragearts ruined it for me and made the game highly uninteresting especially to spectate

[@jr-2nd]

T7 was bs too. And I confirm it every time I play T5DR, T6 and TTT2 with friends or ranked.

[@drewgunner14]

Heat definitely needs a tune down. But what I wished removed was rageart, that thing beats anything.

[@padzman91]

@@drewgunner14 patience and awareness beats ragearts all day, any day. Spammers hate it, but are the same ones who complain about button mashing in the game XD The irony

[@asapmarkobeats]

​@@padzman91 thing is if your patient someone can mash on you back and regain hp even if you block what theyre doing

[@KatzProductionsYT]

Old heads being pushed out of the FGC… just wait till they add dance emotes to the shop

[@BLN_Snake]

You acting like youre an oldhead

[@malapertfourohfour2112]

​​@@BLN_Snake very witty retort, I'm sure you've convinced him that he is, in fact, a noob with the power of your rhetoric

[@BLN_Snake]

@@malapertfourohfour2112 i think i did, yes

[@travismarxo2836]

Definitely feeling you on those costumes. How they don't let us re-enter higher ranked tournaments in Arcade Quest to unlock legacy costumes and art AND rank up effectively in single player is beyond me. Give us stuff to do with those avatars and areas.

[@ChristopherWaddelow]

This would be amazing 😢

[@louieverrtorreon684]

That's actually a decent idea, if they could only add unlockable rewards from the Tekken Lounge such as costumes, emotes, art panels, etc. It would've been more meaningful to unlock vs boring battle pass. Tekken Lounge could have been more fun stay if we can do something more and I feel like the potential has been wasted.

[@LesserCheshire]

I think the players that are new to the Tekken series as a whole, love T8, but for the hardcore audience, the game has lost the appeal that got us into the game to begin with. I was fine with the idea of T8 becoming more aggressive, but the implementation leaves a lot to be desired. So I desired to play a different fighting game at the end of the day. Thankfully VF REVO comes out at the end of the month and I've uninstalled T8 immediately after the Clive release as it demonstrated the direction the devs are committed to, which is not a direction I'm interested in going in.

[@Kenkyou_Nogata]

You and me both. Plus I have 112GB of free space in my SSD now.

[@jamessummers5936]

I'm hardcore and I'm still digging the series, it's fun.

[@JayGaming-p2u]

Yes Tekken is going in a whole new direction but I’m fine with it I guess, but VF6 will definitely make a difference when it drops

[@louieverrtorreon684]

Season Pass and Tekken Shop were a cunning and sneaky move from Bamco, we will never forget how deceptive it is being released right after when the reviews are out and released the game. They compromised T8 customization during release of how lacking they are in general because they knew they'll be added in the game later via microtransactions. Tekken Devs or Harada might not agree with this decision during at the release of the game but Bandai Namco is just being greedy after the game being sold for $70, a separate Season Pass and the audacity sneaking in both Battle Pass and Tekken Shop and lastly, they even want us to buy a separate stage from Heihachi outside of Ultimate Pass which is crazy.

[@symonheiloguu]

13:10 when they released the trailer for Jin, i believed they would not add Devil Jin

[@turianwhan464]

Not only you but we all.

[@louieverrtorreon684]

This franchise however can't progress story wise since there's no accountability at all such as killing Heihachi and Devil Jin's addition to this game. What we have during the ending of T8 both Jin and Kaz's losing their Devil Genes won't be necessary anyway since I know for a fact that Harada will keep insisting them to keep moving forward.

[@MASTERTEAMUSIC]

Sad thing is that, Tekken Tag 2 probably would have been more Successful if they updated the balancing from time to time I love Tag 2 but the balancing of that game is MAD

[@davidparry5310]

1) I highly doubt that the balancing of the roster has any bearing on how commercially successful it is. The vast majority of those who buy any Tekken game are casual-of-casuals who've no concept of roster balance. 2) I think an argument can be made that TTT2 is the _least_ bad offender in terms of how imbalanced the roster is. Certainly, I would say that the gap between top and bottom characters in TTT2 is narrower than in any iteration of T7, or T8.

[@trashboat4731]

Never thought tag 2 was bad, legit it was just the online that sucked, other than that the game was fun

[@haziqtheunique]

No, it would've been more successful with a PC port & a version for PS4/Xbox One. It simply came out too late in the 360 lifespan.

[@rafal2903]

TTT2 was my favorite Tekken. I would like to play a Remake.

[@yummyyummy2091]

Greed is what ruined tekken for me I dropped the game as soon as the made us pay for fits that were free in every othrr tekken game Scummy as hell

[@thorcolossus]

I understand not paying for cosmetics or whatever, but if you bought the game, why not just play it. It's already a full package game. Don't know if you're on pc, but everybody has three costumes and I color variant. I don't see how cosmetics influence your offline or online enjoyment. It's not like people can pay to win.

[@yummyyummy2091]

@@thorcolossus i understand and whike that is cool i still think its super scummy of them to do that with outfits i liked instead of them being unlocked in treasure battle or by just playing the game I still boot it up when i see an uodate hoping for something good i just dont play it seriously anymore cuz i dont wanna support the direction theyve taken with this game and its micro transactions at all

[@akpade]

@@yummyyummy2091 Mhhhhhh, sure budd

[@yummyyummy2091]

@@akpade 😘

[@yummyyummy2091]

@@akpade 😘

[@Tyrantdrache]

i can't bring myself to wanna play Tekken 8 for a long while i had the same thaughts on the game so i feel you

[@Darthn0va86]

Tekken been losing me since TTT2. T6 was the last fun I had, the netcode was horrible but I had fun. Wasn't a fan of using 2 characters in TTT2. T7 came and we got 1 on 1 again, better netcode, but we got armor moves, rage drives, rage arts, 2D characters. T8 I played the beta and I was fooled. The game felt good, but when it came out...bamboozled! I don't even play the game and I know that people who used to know my would be shocked because all I was known for in my circles was Tekken. I have 0 drive to turn this game on, if I get T9 it will be on sale, has to be less than $20 for me to buy it lmao.

[@BandaiSCUM]

You have a break for a bit. You return, and you realise the absurdity. I've been on holiday, and I've come to realisation i dont need or want this game.

[@FairchildV]

I just wish it was an actual Tekken character instead of Clive honestly. Or, Tifa like everyone’s been asking for. I have NEVER heard anyone say they wanted Clive in Tekken 😂. I’m patiently waiting for VF6 personally. I might pick Tekken back up when season 2 arrives but…. Not really sweating it. Not my cup of tea atm honestly.

[@malapertfourohfour2112]

I don't have a ps5 yet, I was kinda disappointed that they decided to cancel the entire story of 7 by bringing Heihachi back but whatever 7s story was lame to begin with I can get over it. When Clove was announced I realized I'm not getting tekken 8 until after I have every other fighting game I want first. Noctis wasn't fun, what am I supposed to see in Cloves kit that I won't find tedious?

[@jamessummers5936]

No one asked for Akuma, Negan, Noctis or Geese, game developers are going to do what they want. Idk where this entitlement comes from to think that game developers have to do what the players want. And even if they could, players want different things.

[@malapertfourohfour2112]

@@jamessummers5936 and then developers wonder why people don't want to play their shit. Is this difficult for you to understand or something, brother?

[@jamessummers5936]

@@malapertfourohfour2112 Correction - a small minority of people who whine and complain don't want to play their shit. Tekken will be just fine without you since a ton of people still bought Clive. As long as the game is fun, new characters are animated well and are fun to play with, the franchise will continue.

[@JayGaming-p2u]

@@jamessummers5936the entitlement part came from the pros they started this whole rant which made developers do patch updates and bring back certain characters smh, you are absolutely right tho Namco is definitely going to do whatever at the end of the day but they do have the pros in their ear which I do not like.

[@Boro87]

thank you for speaking out, i just wish everyone would come out with their real ideas about the game

[@billywelch4611]

My biggest fear is what happened to Eddy, like he’s so watered down that how do you come back from that? Like tekken 9 gonna be an arena fighter… like what would Marduk look like in this game??? Trash. I would rather it go back to the bones of the games. They catering to people who don’t actually love real tekken. You worried about the fickle you will die off.

[@PadPoet]

Tekken has shifted a ton from what made it once great. It’s feeling more like Guilty Gear nowadays.

[@KingJaeTV]

This is how I feel about the game sometimes...

[@HoaxHoax-d5f]

Feels like marvel. No opportunity to break a combo like gg.

[@timothyalexander7006]

Bruh its so sad how die hard communities do more to hurt their game then any dev ever could.

[@turboallen]

The way the game is treated had me and my friend picking up t7 and t6 again. We are having such a good time. T8 needs a whole lot of tuning, and i feel a lot of characters are WAY more boring than they used to be. My perfect tekken is probably a combo of: - T6 pacing and rage system - T7 combo style and bound, in addition to keeping jin, kazuya and heihachis combo tools (i find T8 Kazuya and Heihachi combos to be boring compared to T6 and T7. Also like the wall bounce stuff cause it looks cool. - T8 wall-system (for combos and interactions, wall bound and such) - NO chip damage (or only chip damage on some special moves in heat) - New game gimmicks doesnt completely take away regular tekken gameplay. Heat would charge over several stocks or you have only one heat meter per match (just an idea) - maximum one rage art per match And lastly; - Dlcs are not having 4-range attacks and 40-hit death combos... (for those who saw that video)

[@ShawnWeeded510]

I deleted the game once i saw it was Clive as the last dlc character. Clive was not the character Tekken Fans wanted or cared about. The game does not prioritize Defense in any way and it shows this by presenting a new Tekken with no new defensive options. I was born in 92'. Been playing since Tekken 3 and ive watched them consistently ignore the defensive aspect of their game.

[@brycenmarion146]

Good riddance

[@akpade]

@@brycenmarion146 fr

[@GuiserGestalt]

VF6 is supposedly being released this year so at least there is another alternative coming, i'm still playing Tekken hoping they add characters i give a shit about but if VF6 ends up being dope due to the Yakuza devs then i'll have to make a choice which one i want to spend my time on

[@FairchildV]

@@GuiserGestalt I would LOVE for VF6 to come this year bro. But I sincerely think they’re pushing for 2026 or 2027. Makes sense since they’ve released VF5 Revo with rollback and a huge balance change.

[@robertallshouse500]

Since you’re bringing up bdays. I was born in 83. Played tekken 1. Tekken 8 is fine. Tifa ain’t coming. Clive is fine. This is the first season of a non arcade release. Arcades have been irrelevant since you can remember. By all means, pretend that they weren’t. Tekken 8 is a good game that will only get better

[@walduskiepski5312]

I agree with arcades. I was in Japan year ago and there was nothing to play. Only 8gen. games like TK7, SFV... Only some old games like shooters "House of the dead" especially for somebody who never played it before

[@superruikiri]

I just hope we dont have to wait for spring to see some balance changes

[@18Jeykey]

Tekken 8 was a really great game at release. I would give it like an 8/10. It started to fall down on patching in MTX after release wich was already a shady move and not really well recieved by the community than they pushed it further and further with the stage of heihachi for example. Battlepass as a whole being a let down for most people is also a huge deal for people to leave... Another thing was Clive imo he is well down but really not what people wanted. You can look it up on steam charts for example Heihachi brought more traffic to the game than a guest char wich is crazy imo. I really hope they will come back strong with s2 but personally I decided to not play further until they start to make some right decisions.

[@tibz7634]

Oh stfu man. A game's quality doesnt drop cause of an MTX shop.

[@JayGaming-p2u]

7:55 you are absolutely right about that, but pro’s and extreme gamers request it, I’m not sure how you not know of this? Their feeding into the feedback of the pro’s casuals do not care bc D.Jin and Dragonov are on SS level just play the game and enjoy it. Like you said in the beginning of the video the old tekkens didn’t have all this update this or that but Harada already spoke on this “you want the old way, go play the old tekkens” smh

[@Nugem]

About the Guests: Clive came out pretty cool, but we have been asking for Tifa since Tekken 7, so yeah....mixed feelings about it. There's still hope tho, cuz the devs we could get more than one FF character in the game. By the way, wish you a quick recovery on the health problems, King!

[@CephlonMayngrum]

Engaging heat. Long combos. Heat smash. Heat rush. Rage arts. All these take control out of player's hands which in turn slows the game down. Messes up the flow

[@jazzoj5]

Really close to just walking away from the game for a while, broken Clives everywhere in ranked, the basic meta of the game is just not enjoyable and I'm 50/50 whether they will, or even have the intention to fix it.

[@straightlead8]

I see what you did there

[@slugshotgun]

Imagine if T8 evolves to a point where the characters have alternate fighting styles that you have the option to select in character select before the match. i.e Jin having no devil anime effects.

[@soknheith3259]

Clive is just one of those decisions. I couldn't touch the game for a week after his announcement, and I still can't stand looking at this fool xD

[@TheCaptainhowdy11]

They destroyed Leroy's parries and strikes. I don't get it. He was supposed to be all about defense and using your opponents fist against them. Had such high hopes for this game.

[@sean_image]

Why are these devs so gung-ho at making heat engagers more powerful most of the roster is already have engagers that are plus on block outside of a couple characters. Being able to full crouch after engagers is an oversight.

[@ultrainstinct4766]

yesterday I played tekken 5, jin was so cool, kazuya without all that stopping of turning into a demon in the middle of the fight was also really cool, now jin in tekken 8 is very much in the style of an anime, they should leave their entire arsenal of blows with this demon power to Devil jin.

[@Echez]

Jin is def more “anime” now but it’s likely because in the story he accepts everything he’s learned is him. That’s probably why his combat direction turned into this new style with the demon style moves

[@crystaleater2581]

The offence options when you're like going against easy top/high tier range a bit too much to a lot too much. Like you can still be defensive but the offence in this game is just stronger and some characters just outright put you in situations where you cant do anything which fundamentally goes against the core principle of you always have counterplay to deal with an option in tekken (despite how some characters like T1 king slip through the cracks in every game) Tldr : offence needs to be put on the same level as defense in this game.

[@LukasBay]

I ve been playing also tekken since tekken 1 and I am now playing for fun (almost tekken god rank) For me honestly one of the problem is the dead time in the game now. Super long combos where mostly one of the two has to wait. Rage, waiting time. Jailing move again no action. So basically the active time of playing from both players is actually reduced and one or two action can basically end one full round. So not sure where this game wants to go...

[@travisjones5576]

Not gonna lie, I don’t agree with you about Jin whatsoever.. his attacks are still karate based. The only thing that confuses people about Jin is the effects that follows his attacks.. the only thing that anime with him is his heat finisher.. except that dive kick which is bs.. for me the problem with Tekken 8 is too many “get out of jail free card” mechanics.. supers, heats, armored moves and health recovery 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️.. and none of them are managed in a way where it a reward rather than a automatic thing..

[@ceabo4u]

remember bamco has a habbit of releasing DLC' chars broken to drive sales up, and then fix them

[@StephGoKrazy]

I stopped playing t8 after Clive came out. I was willing to forgive them hiding the shop until the reviews came out but this is just dumb and every time i hopped on ranked there were 20 Clive players and 1 dragonov sprinkled in every once in a while .

[@straightlead8]

After I played 35 Clives in a row, I decided enough was enough.

[@louieverrtorreon684]

Guess what they'll do with Season 2, new moves for everyone which leads to another balancing nightmare because we know not everyone will be beneficial for this and some characters will take it but will become useless of how bad it might be compared to some other characters and we're still going to end up complaining again for the rest of next season for balancing in general.

[@frozonekickz204]

I won’t run it back with Clive at all. If I win I’m out in ranked. I don’t care.

[@MikeHunt-h5c]

Smart.

[@pf3305]

I get it 100%, I’ve been able to deal but having to deal with 4-5 Clives straight is REALLY ANNOYING

[@malapertfourohfour2112]

Just to respond to Jae about the FF music, I play a lot of Threatrhythm so I've heard 16s soundtrack without the game context, and just purely from a musical perspective I don't think it holds up to any of Uematsu's work.

[@tomaszsablik529]

After 15 years playing Tekken, I’m done for now. It’s just to much bad moves from the devs.

[@Owriada]

Bruh they gave law a 50/50 out of junkyard with two stances along with two heat engaging power crushes out of it. Why? 🤣

[@ThePondererShane]

Great vid Jae, I have finally gotten back into tekken 8 and the top 5 characters are just leagues about others, maybe its me being a scrup but some characters just feel impossible to fight against and have insuffereable offense.

[@ChristopherWaddelow]

Tekken getting killed by these decisions a self-fulfilling prophecy. If there is a loud group of the community who are constantly talking about how problematic the game is, then naturally, new players will stumble upon the content, and that demotivates them to play the game. If we say nothing, then the game stays in its current state. Which will kill it via lack of competition, perhaps. I am gonna be honest to anyone reading this, if you hate the game, please leave and stop spreading your hate for the game. If you have constructive criticism and love the game, then please stay and support the game through these hard times. Tekken has historically been poorly balanced on arcade release. We are in arcade release right now. Not literally, but figuratively.

[@davidparry5310]

Au contraire, those of us who detest the present gameplay direction of the franchise should continue expressing our sentiments loud and clear precisely in the hope that new players are dissuaded from bothering with the game. The fewer new players pick up T8, the better! Bandai Namco deserve a kick up the backside for T8!

[@ChristopherWaddelow]

@davidparry5310 So screw those who enjoy the game. Alright. For the record, I don't disagree that bamco is scummy as all hell.

[@phlixcarbon]

​@@ChristopherWaddelow Everyone should have their voice heard especially the criticism coming from long time Tekken fans such as King Jae. Tekken was renowned to be a beautiful defensive footsie fighting game. Tekken 8 heavily strays away from this. Telling people to be silent when they do not share the same view point as you is a very immature stance and inhibits future changes that can enhance the game. In this case making Tekken 8 feel more closely to a traditional Tekken game.

[@BandaiSCUM]

If this is arcade release, then how about just releasing the game when it's ready. Dice would release games unpolished and not ready, and look what happened to Battlefield they just killed the franchise. Just fucking release the game when it's ready.

[@ChristopherWaddelow]

​@@phlixcarbon Everyone should voice their opinions and that is fine. Likewise, I liked King Jae's opinions here and largely agree. I never told anyone to be silent, I told those who want to stick around to hate the game to please leave. Just hating the game to hate the game does no benefit to anyone. If the haters leave, we can have those with proper constructive criticism around. Also, you keep bringing up this tradition, and I heavily disagree with the idea that footsies is something that is sacred. T3-T7 are still around. Go play them if you like them. Just conforming the game to the prior in the series is rather boring imo.

[@circa2008]

what is a gcliff move

[@datguy6745]

People not agreeing with you that yoshi was broken is crazy to me. I mained yoshi exclusively for the entirety of Tekken 7, took ONE look at him in 8 and immedietly knew how broken he was. You could just flash ANYTHING. Especially with that STUPID range on SwordStance-Flash pre nerf. It literally made me laugh out loud. His CRAZY damage etc. Only thing he lost in compensation were his Oki Setups, wich if you ask me was the worst decision to make. Now he gets all that Oki damage guaranteed in a Combo anyway. Immedietly dropped him as my Main and tried new Characters, then fell in love with Steve.

[@dev1on]

FF fan here too i dislike the crossover as well…unless it was my guy Auron 😂 But FF just doesnt mix with the martial arts fighting i love about tekken

[@WARLORD626]

I keep trying to tell People it's Bandai and thier backwards Corpo mindset.

[@bazzgaming27]

my brain felt like fully shutting down after trying to play ranked.. clive busted

[@jl53588]

Hope you get well my mans!!!

[@SpicyPunkRockerOfficial]

I haven’t played Tekken 8 in a bit, I’ll come back to it at some point maybe but for now I’m on other games

[@orelevato5664]

Dont do it, its toxic as hell

[@CJ1776]

I made it to tekken god with paul. I dont know any frame data but i hit a plateau. I can feel this is it....

[@circa2008]

How?

[@CJ1776]

@circa2008 what how ???

[@jonnymars7164]

Dang didnt even notice about Jin like that. But your right Jin even in 8 story doesn't want the power of the devil nor wants to use it. Its at the very end he accepts himself. But when him and Kazuya battle their devil both disappear. Which means Jin doesn't have the devil with him in both scenarioes before and after he refused to use it, and at the end lost it to the Kazama purification .And sorry but Kazuya needs along poke in this game their is so much bs that I already commented on. Even story wise doesn't make sense dudes been fighting since a kid and its his 8th tournament and he hasn't learned to defeat his opponents he needs to strike more outward. Instead of puching like a t rex. Thats all he needed to cut most of the bs of the game. You can't turtle cause they made the game too offensive and that if you are a defensive player they actually made it worse by the overall design. Sorry but why does everything penetrate crouch block. Its shoud be a low only.

[@Artofexecution]

You only realise things went wrong when it gets too late!!

[@KingJaeTV]

This is not true. I have been saying things are going wrong the start and people said I complained

[@Artofexecution]

@KingJaeTV I know bro I mean it in a way that others don't realise it And they will when its too late You have been the only creator who is going against the odd to speak the truth.

[@S8N6]

How about they adjust tekken prowess like it was in T7

[@Caladir]

Imagine being FF fan, coming into this game trying it out because of FF character, and getting pushed back. What the fuck is wrong with yall, you want this game to get killed.

[@senzsei_]

Honestly, I can care less about the FF fans experience. The game was killed when the FF character entered.

[@EtherealSoul861]

@@senzsei_ no,, is not about final fantasy ... tifa would have been fine and she fit perfectly with tekken,, the problem is that clive doesn't fit ,,

[@Caladir]

@@senzsei_ Well then have fun because the most amount of people who played this game in recent months, came because of Clive. And now it's going down again. Good job telling people to fuck off and ruining the potential of growing playerbase.

[@brycenmarion146]

​@@EtherealSoul861 why not? What's your logic

[@senzsei_]

@@EtherealSoul861 yeah I agree with that, I’m simply replying back to the comment?

[@jinnosuke4463]

Played tekken for over 10 years and im done. Enjoying Rivals

[@RemingtonMiles-sr9uf]

Harada's been screwing up Tekken 8 almost since its launch, including adding Clive, and its been going in the wrong direction since. If he keeps this up, he'll drive away more than half the community.

[@Hscott410_]

It would be cool if Tekken added a 2 or 3 character slot, of characters you least want to play against. That would be satisfying

[@lsvlogs_]

Your good now out of hospital now

[@INFORCER23]

Real Talk 💯

[@GhostAemaeth2501]

TIFA - they dont want her sweetheart beeing kicked and punched and stabbed in her face! Its the same thing, Lara Craft was never allowed to have sex in the films! That would mean a loss of a value - from a studios perspective. Men are seen as fighters, women as an sexsymbols, these are the rules of the industry. It was very obvious they d NEVER gave Tifa to T8

[@MSNoir7]

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[@jonnymars7164]

Their would have been backlash but people would have known before buying. We been groomed to expect it to me this customizations were purposely kept aside to make a profit. You def right about the chip damage, heat and rage is bs. I miss centered on reality tekken all this over volleyball garbbage needs to be taken out or a system to get out of it.

[@HoaxHoax-d5f]

Clive fits soul calibur

[@jonnymars7164]

All they need to do is stop unblockables, make backdashing is easier, and side stepping more sensitive,, stop the unstopable throws, also these infinite combos make a burst like soul call or like Dead or Alive where you can block out or parry out of almost everything

[@circa2008]

there are no infinite combos in tekken, all unblockables in the game can be sidestepped basically, and there are very few unbreakable throws in the game. You have to learn about what’s happening in the game brother

[@tiger-rgn]

if you are going to keep crying about law's 111 that only launches on HEAT DASH and counter (the move is -12 btw), if you truly want to cripple a counterhit character out of his trademark fast counterhit signature, so yeah give him his i11 magic 4 back then we are even thats the problem with tekken youtubers, they KEEP crying about other people's mains, whinning about their trademark thats been there since tekken freaking 1, yet also cry about how their main should get buffs, the leroy downplay is brutal man, give law his i11 magic 4 if you are going to remove the move they gave him as a replacement in the first place, you have the responsability to show the full picture to your audience when you talk about these characters man

[@mario08133]

Bin the shop. Stay in the season passes.

[@malapertfourohfour2112]

To the one idiot spamming comments about "what about FF fans?" never even mind adding Tifa, what about Sabin, or Zell, or Amaranth, there are so many better options who are better fits by VIRTUE OF BEING THE DAMN MONK CLASS in their game on top of having style designs that can easier fit in with Tekken. Clive is trash, and FF16 was a bad game that didn't deserve the series title. Cry about it.

[@50shadesofgibbs49]

fr tho like clive don't belong

[@superdupeninja8149]

I’m not buying costumes

[@DaPhenomAce]

My guy did you have a new variant of Covid?!? Get well soon

[@akpade]

Some people cant accept that them not liking a game doesnt make said game bad, the best way to know if a game is good enough is to look at the numbers, and I love to break it to yall, but numbers says otherwise.... Tekken 8 is a massive success from a numbers standpoint and its not even debatable.

[@GroyperShaco]

some people cant accept that massive success doesn't mean good.

[@akpade]

@ If a majority of people stick to the game, which numbers says so, then yeah, it does mean that the game is good, let me tell you something, if a game is not fun enough, people will stop playing, as far as today, so yeah, it is a good game. Your false consensus bias is affecting your objectivity among another things.

[@Kai-jn7pn]

​@@akpadesource?

[@akpade]

@@Kai-jn7pn Steam chart. The game has great player retention despite a lot of KZbinrs trashing the game. People are so negatively biased they don’t want to look at the situation from a objective standpoint, nothing is more objective than numbers. There’s so much negativity spread online people think that the game is dying but when we look at the numbers, we can see that it’s solid… Negativity push people to go out of their way to vocalize their criticism, but people who are satisfied don’t scream it everywhere, they just stick to the game. If we compare Tekken 7 to Tekken 8 number wise and on the same time frame, Tekken 8 is holding strong and is as successful as his predecessor. Obviously we can’t look at the consoles numbers, but we can safely assume that it’s the same. Even tho Tekken 8 has its flaws (flaws that made me quit the game since October by the way) the game is till very much appreciated.

[@GroyperShaco]

@@akpade You think you sound smart, but I think it is a good game. My point overall is that people playing something doesn't make it good. So ironically your "false consensus bias is affecting your objectivity among other things" (btw this quote is repetitive most those words mean the same thing you just thought it sounded smart). So imagine how psychopathic and ego driven you look when i am talking about games in generality and you created some false pretense of me not only not liking tekken, but having some weird word salad bias against it. btw for me to have a bias I would have to be comparing it to something which i wasn't since i was talking about games in generality. LOOOOOL. Lots of people think call of duty is good and buy it every year. OBJECTIVELY its been bad since 2014. Oh but people buy it so the shitty gameplay is morphed into good gameplay. Give me a break.

[@HoaxHoax-d5f]

Namco is about to lose it with tekken players just like activision is losing cod players.

[@letlifeflow1254]

Tekken needed something new unessesary making him to strong "! yes im blocking clives to

[@AdilIssa-m5x]

No harada fault I think I believe namco band problem. lees budget make More money

[@heartyman14]

each entry gets more money and more funding, yet the same problems persist. starting to think that funding isn't the problem here.

[@jamessummers5936]

At this point y'all should just switch over to VF because it appears that Tekken is no longer for y'all...

[@Bigboss-hl5mh]

what you mean? by y'all what you tryna say? what you disagree with?

[@misantrope6267]

4.5 minutes in and i feel like you haven't said anything yet, just waffling

[@KingJaeTV]

Maybe don't feel...LISTEN!

[@lydellpoag4010]

Well he is gonna kill Tekken sooo😂

[@2_kp]

the game was dead since begining..... just didnt want to admit to it till now XD

[@Cthuesday]

Leroy needs a forward, forward move to get in really bad

[@law6800]

Ff4 is sufficient, the last thing we want is Leroy to become a braindead demon paw merchant

[@Cthuesday]

@ how is it sufficient when it leaves you in hermit and -9 on block

[@law6800]

@ you’re not playing tekken 8, you’re playing tin can 8. Ff4 is -4 on block, more than enough to cancel stance and block. Or you can hard read mashers and use hrm 1 or hrm b2 if you get blocked. Sufficient ≠ perfect. Ff4 does the job and it does it well. It’s not a demon paw, but it’s Leroy’s most plus hermit move. They HAVE to respect the mix if you hit it

[@morgan-leecarstens5987]

On the topic of Jin, I actually think that he needs to be more anime, I feel like his Karate style took him further away from being a true Mishima especially the the moves. Like not having his Mishima moves and seeing how those same moves evolved over time with Kazuya, Heihachi and Lars and Reina, I'm very jealous that he looks so shit and is not flashy at all even though he's the lead.

[@paradiseb5950]

What are you drinking?

[@prinnyjoose]

Shrug, you know whats going to kill tekken 8? People crying about it not being tekken 7. Agree or disagree, the series needed the offense shift.

[@BecomingYourIdeal]

Could? Game is Basura

[@GioBerserk]

So, Lars, some Bears with fish attacks, Aliens, Karen-Paul, other Weirdos are not worse ? People complain about Clive ? Seriously? Tekken 8 is a clown show anyway. The last thing you should do is complain about Clive.

[@MikeHunt-h5c]

Clive is broken, wtf are you talking about? 🤔

[@brycenmarion146]

​@@MikeHunt-h5c get better gang

[@brycenmarion146]

​@@MikeHunt-h5cno denying he's strong but broken is pushing it Jin is stronger than Clive definitely lmao also Jin can parry Clives attacks

[@GioBerserk]

I forgot gun and knife swinging victor & teleporting raven.

[@Lugent25]

Your logic is flawed, since no one is asking for these Archetypes, and not to mention those Archetypes are from actual Tekken characters, that's like saying you want a black belt on your first try in Karate class. smh