Hello everyone, (long text) 1+2 is realy one of her best underated moves. I have an other count technique for ff3 If 1+2 hits I count seconds. At the same time I hit 1+2 i count 1 and on the half way to 2 I press ff3. Maybe it will help someone. I agree with the SS 4 and SS 1+2 mixup. It could be so strong. b4 Could be good in neutral but not against chars which have a good guaranty 10 hit string. If your opponend doesn't have it or don't use it, it's ok. *Don't use it against Jab masher* When u use it too much and the opponent have the knowledge it can be also SSR (to her strong side) So it could be a mindgame as he said. d1 is realy underated. But be carful on D1 (hold) into AOP. When u use it into AOP be ready to use AOP d. Especially oB. The minus Frames with and without AOP version are dependent on the distance and angle. And the distance and angle are realy wierd. FC f4 is so good. You have so many mixups like FC df4,4, or FC df4 -> AOP mixups. or df,4 -> AOP df4 -> AOP mixups. There are so many options ... I have to use ist also more often. And u can mixup it with stings that leave u in FC like d1. Also good to start from AOP. One of her best underated moves. b3 is realy good. I use it to keep safe in some situations. But yes it's a high and when u use too much lows in RDS your Opponent will duck because of the expected low. So keep in mind, that u have to mixup enough. Ok, the CH 2nd 1,d2 -> RDS b3 is new for me! THANKS a lot for that! Underrated #6 FC df 2,1: Double low. U can do DF 2,1 (hold) to do a SSL into RDS mixups. U can also do only FC df2 to go in RDS mixups. So u have also a lot of mixup options. I hope it will be helpul for someone. Kind Regards
@refinedphenomena40784 ай бұрын
Wow your counting trick just clicked with me … شكرا جزيلا
@Ironfist766 ай бұрын
I honestly spam b+2. When I realized b+2,2 is natural combo, and b+2 being homing. You have mental frame advantage bc of the extension and you can hop n' throw a lot. b+2 can also float a lot of moves in the game.
@arvinsim6 ай бұрын
I guess the threat of following through with the b4,1 is just too great that people don't want to risk punishing it.
@08aldrin806 ай бұрын
I agree same thought
@WafflesOWNz2 ай бұрын
Plus the reward for blocking the followup is pretty high
@Mantis19936 ай бұрын
Thank you for always giving great information and getting to the point. You have single-handedly elevated my Xiaoyu play to a level I never thought I'd reach. Fantastic video as always!
@TysonRoberts6 ай бұрын
Love your stuff, Mr. Croft. That said, 1, d+2 (CH) B+3 in RDS has been around since Tekken 3. :)
@Lingnation6 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@SeaJayTK6 ай бұрын
I have a challenge for you Mr Croft, what about useless moves that Xiaoyu has? And how would you make them useful? Like RD up+2, i think that’s the input, the one where she jumps real high and stabs the ground
@raidennc3 ай бұрын
The best way that helps me think about the 1+2 > ff3 pickup is to realize that 1+2 recovers much faster than it looks like it does. So getting used to the recovery and when you're able to move is the key thing that will help make the pickup more consistent.
@sylehu70566 ай бұрын
I am only Bushin but I love to use several times back+4 only a few times and when opponents begins to try to punish it, then I add the 1 string ender. It still works quite often
@MrZatsa6 ай бұрын
I feel the that the 1+2, FF3 pickup is easier in Tekken 8 than Tekken 7. wasn't Consistent in T7 but in T8 I can say I am consistent.
@treehann6 ай бұрын
I can do the 1+2 pickup after a mini sidestep left but 0% of the time straight on axis :( I'd love to see a video of yours with the inputs enabled so we can see the frame timing!
@dominiclacroix94894 ай бұрын
one thing you forgot to mention with Down 1 is if you hold down after the attack, you remain in AoP. I often use it as a round starter just after because most people spam not knowing youll have evasion and can get a launcher just after
@kocomaru48676 ай бұрын
Df2,3 I often hit them with the second hit because the moves so new and fresh. While crouching df2,1 is also plus on hit when you go into back turn really underrated.
@asathomas846 ай бұрын
I expected to see this move in the video. I used it more in older games but continue to forget it exists.
@SwitchShock6 ай бұрын
aop 3, the slide kick is a great underrated move as well. It launches at counter hit and also the range makes it a great attack option.
@TowBoatSam6 ай бұрын
Another great video…very informative
@SalvoFogliani6 ай бұрын
Great Video! I don't understand one thing: move at 2.04 (d/b+3): I often use that move, but in this combo it doesn't start.
@Lingnation6 ай бұрын
That's because it is not db3 but RDS db4!
@SalvoFogliani6 ай бұрын
@@Lingnation ok, thank you. I'll Try
@kocomaru48676 ай бұрын
Ff 4 is actually a really good plus move that people don’t use often. It’s best used during pressure as people duck it if you just throw it out. Back turn down 4 isn’t tracking?
@AlEmerich6 ай бұрын
If I recall correctly, the King's kicks in the hankle has the same property as Xiaoyu's regarding low parry. I mean, if you have been hit by one, you cannot low parry the next one, but you can block it and then, you can low parry the thrid one :)
@xQ2x6 ай бұрын
Good video as always and hello, been a long while.
@Diorpaintt6 ай бұрын
fc 4 / aop 4 flips them over on their stomach at the wall for oki. if i’m not mistaken if they get up incorrectly you get a free 1+2 in aop at the wall
@onuru.1005 ай бұрын
another great guide yayyy
@YamiZee6 ай бұрын
I've always used rds b3 as a quick back to regular stance panic move but now I feel like I should use it even more
@Slimjim83456 ай бұрын
FC df44 is the move on this list I used the most, and I found it very useful. I tend to use this move a lot by doing the first hit into aop, then into the mid heat engager(aop2,1 I think lol). I don't know if people know the move and are trying to block the second low, or if they are just slow to blocking the low, but I end up landing that heat engager so many times with that setup because people are trying to block low. One thing that is very funny with it too is that since you have to get full crouch, sometimes you will end up low parrying the opponent since there is the brief amount of time before you can input 4 and you are just holding df.
@treehann6 ай бұрын
I was just messing around in practice mode trying to remember your video from when I watched it the other day. I found that RDS uf3 is a jumping 9 frame (!) move too! I think I've only used it by accident. But it's not as good because it's -12.
@TheAeonAnimA6 ай бұрын
I feel like every move herehas come up for me as a move I should use more: 1+2 I avoid to due not having the pick up down. FC F4 4 I just told myself to use more because I used it in T7 a lot and somehow stopped thinking about it in AOP with these HYP transitions and Heat engagers. D1 there's a video on all the power crushes it beats, still didn'tuse it B4 I started to realize is really good by itself right before seeing this. RDS B4 I also would "accidentally" use (fight stick) and was like wait hold up, but didn't know it was ideal. Already implementing this to great success. Thank you for highlighting
@VillainessAO6 ай бұрын
1+2 is my favvv, even if you can't pick up like most ling players, you can get a 3+4 follow up for extra damage
@yuh68126 ай бұрын
Very slow startup. Best to use it in case of advantage frames. Even so, there are better options
@VillainessAO6 ай бұрын
@@yuh6812 Yeah it's not that useful in low level play which is what I assume you're talking about... It's a good side step launch and safe 50/50, so instead of doing a low poke that your opponent would sometimes assume you'd do, you can do 1+2 which is safe on block.... So yeah, it's useful regardless of being slow. Moves like F4 is also slow, doesn't mean it's not useful.... Need to use your moves strategically instead of just throwing it out for no reason.
@patrickmurphy36016 ай бұрын
Big fan of d1, it's also perfect for a hard read on armor, and is especially good ending a wall splat for setting up AOP oki. Not as good as T7 wall oki, but still worth it. Also no one challenges d1 on block into AOP. Which makes sense because it has a perfect amount of pushback, is -10, and basically no one in Tekken has an appropriate response for this situation. So one of her best tools for entering AOP at a deterministic range (if all 3 hits connect).
@Lingnation6 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your POV 🙏
@shaolinfalls2 ай бұрын
That 1st one is like 90% chance I miss the pickup. I thought they patched it out but i saw one of your newer vids and you still pull it off. I tried and I get the pickup literally 1 out of every 10 tries . Feels like no adjust to timing helps and it's totally a gamble : (
@koneko_x5 ай бұрын
Is the combo ender forward 1 2 4 possible, or only because you used the wall? (2:45) I’m really happy I can do the combo starter pretty consistently now. What I personally find way harder is the counter hit from aop 1+2 into while rising 2, hold forward and then do the combo. I really struggle with that
@victora.andrade90166 ай бұрын
Excelente vídeo; aplicaré más esos movimientos 🎮📺🎮👍🏼
@LordViktorHun885 ай бұрын
D1 is one of my favorite moves since Tekken 3. 👌😊
@ya_boi_chill88226 ай бұрын
D1 goes under some moves too especially the power crush moves
@NuUnlimited6 ай бұрын
I use fc df4 all the time and when they duck to block the second hit I hit them with aop 2,1. Also rds b3 works wonders against Alisa hopkick
@tatatanae45326 ай бұрын
i use a caliroll+rookick to track usually.The forward momentum of the roll realligns and the kick is too fast to step after..But its guaranteed launch ounishavle now and they can step block i guess so ehh.
@Lingnation6 ай бұрын
exactly, we have to be careful with this one 🙈
@asathomas846 ай бұрын
I get people to duck my roo kicks because I threaten with a throw after the Cali roll a few times first.
@payasoinfeliz6 ай бұрын
you have to really commit to experimentation and spamming d1 to fully appreciate it. you will not only stop attacks but create opportunities you would have never guessed you could with this move.
@the_gratefulgamer6 ай бұрын
I generally jump with back 3 lol. Everything else I already utilize. Still trying to learn the rds parry grab 😮💨
@Hartsiz855 ай бұрын
In Tekken 7 when I panicked I used b+2 and then b3 few times in a row and my opponents realy confused😄 It really works well
@RankedGirl2 ай бұрын
You have good points. D1 is my favorite move ❤
@theredwind6 ай бұрын
I miss B+4, 4.. I wish they had kept that in addition to heat option
@asathomas846 ай бұрын
In the old days, RDS b+3 (or just RDS 3 as it used to be) was a knockdown on hit and did even more damage. I didn't realize it was still in the game now that RDS 3 is the new RDS ff+3. Well new for me as I pretty much skipped Tekken 7.
@angelic97216 ай бұрын
Me personally, my top five underrated ling moves are: 1. FC df21 2. FC 321~4/HYP 3. AOP d1 4. FF 1+2~1+2 5. U 1+2~2~1
@TadaNoEssai6 ай бұрын
in RDS she can do uf4 which iirc is i9
@EPICGAPE6 ай бұрын
Love this video!
@rimuruainzsuisei6 ай бұрын
There is 9F jumping 3 from RDS if not wrong. Not in the movelist I think.
@Hertzii6 ай бұрын
I'm I the only one who hears "Let me Xiaoyu?" Great video 🙏
@Lingnation6 ай бұрын
I can hear it too ☺️
@jupiter888816 ай бұрын
Maybe im wrong but not launching throws out bt with jump are still tracking. Tell me if im wrong but first check it
@Lingnation6 ай бұрын
@@jupiter88881 wrong, unfortunately
@hallawit59356 ай бұрын
are you playing on hitbox or Stick ?
@Lingnation6 ай бұрын
ps5 pad 😁
@faust79066 ай бұрын
Make a list of all her Okizeme options and resets that force my opponent to guess after every knockdown like King
@vendettamalize72096 ай бұрын
Y u not in dreamhack SWeden nor CEO????
@Lingnation6 ай бұрын
I was at DH Sweden, unfortunately I got sick there
@VillainessAO6 ай бұрын
An underrated move in my opinion is d1
@TrveEm5 ай бұрын
kommentar für support :)
@GuestieyeVids2.06 ай бұрын
Wait Back Stance ⬇️4 is not tracking?
@dr.setups22786 ай бұрын
It is but it's semi reactable
@GuestieyeVids2.06 ай бұрын
@@dr.setups2278 oh ok
@Cal30006 ай бұрын
I had no idea d4 was launch punishable. That’s crazy. lol. No one punishes it so I guess it’s ok for now. It’s things like this holding her back. She feels more like an experiment with the devs to test the system.
@wearewatcherss3 ай бұрын
if you are a tekken 6 player and use to play under limited functions then may be we could win a tournament with LING XIAOYU but all those moves are unnecessary in Tekken 8 we have lots of disadvantages against many other characters like dragunov , nina , bryan its more like we are doing hard work rather than smart work in LING XIAOYU case. more importantly have we ever win a single fight against pro players ? Like YUYU as you see she never made it in 1st place in big tournaments while simple characters like Dragunov win EWC well OF COURSE ulsan is really a goat player even kick out Arsalan ash, but we never heard any of them ever play with LING XIAOYU. really ?
@yukidoki14822 ай бұрын
Yoredz the best xiaoyu player in the world couldnt even carry her to top 48. Its crazy how bad most of her moves are and you have to play 10times better than with most other characters. Watching every other character doing like 80dmg at the wall and then doing like 30with her is just funny. Or full combo with wallbreak and heat dash for around 80
@CutiePie2326 ай бұрын
❤
@marubuxiaoyu6 ай бұрын
I sent you a friend in Tekken 8! Let's be friends if you like.😊
@Lingnation6 ай бұрын
I hope it was my playstation profile! Ofc I want to ☺️
@marubuxiaoyu6 ай бұрын
Understood! I'll send you a friend request on PlayStation!🎉
@GokigenyouToshinoKyoko6 ай бұрын
Gokigenyou Mr Croft! (≧▽≦) 🤜🫷☀️🌙 My 2 personal picks for underrated moves is Low Back Turn. Doing that in neutral and seeing them run and whiff into your keepout Mistrust is a good way to increase your opponents one and done percentage. 2nd one is AoP U4,(4). You can go back into AoP if you hold down or go into Rain Dance if you hold back after doing U4. People rarely expect that move, they don't know it's -10 on block and they don't know about the transitions so they will whiff attacks because of them.
@VillainessAO6 ай бұрын
Why we being blessed with all these guide videos 🥹 not that I'm questioning it